Tips and Maps for 100% Tyria Exploration (No Map Checks)

Dooms Passion

Dooms Passion

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

MinS

W/

Hey I think last time i posted my map no one could get to it. Im sorta new so please bear with me. I think you all will be able to see this map. If not someone please tell me.

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2677/gw067br6.jpg

Thxs in advance

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

Dr.thug1230,
Doing a fast compare on your map tells me post #3439 has a lot of spots missing on your map.
Also, I noticed that you missed the north side of Sanctum Cay mission.

MrTickle,
Same message you and also north Sanctum Cay.
Your desert also needs some serious work (you missed an entire outpost there)

Iwa Ryu,
Also the north of Sanctum Cay and post #3439

Darkfaith,
Anvil Rock, Deldrimor Bowl south wall, Aurora Glade outpost, Spot between Drok's and Ice Caves outpost, north Thunderhead also south, Spot in Spearhead Peek, Wall below Iron Mines mission outpost, tar lake regent valley.

ShadowVx,
Experience tells me you probably lack a lot of spots mentioned in #3439

Dooms,
I can see North rock formation Riverside mission, can you repost at 1024x768 or 1280x1024, it's hard for me to compare your map since it's an odd size.

Star Gazer

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

W/

hey jos, great job with what your doing here! not many I know that would take the time to help people out with the few percentages they need. Could you take the time to post your procedure, and perhaps a map? Or do you simply use the difference model? If your using the difference model, I have seen some without clouds and are very dark. Any suggestions for fixing these? Keep up the great work man!

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

Star Gazer,

My primary compare map is on page 164 (two postings, 1280x1024 and 1024x768).
I am cleaning it up, but that has less priority.
I think I have cleared an other .2-.4 so far.
I am however still comparing with the originals of the ones on page 164.

The method I surgest for maps below 98% is saving a 100% map and the non 100% one in an empty folder and use the 'Image and Fax viewer' (think it's called that in English) to switch between them.
You can see slight differences on the map.
For maps > 98% this does also work if the explorer has done a good job and has a lot still covered in one area.
Only two pictures in the map speeds up the loading a little and makes sure you are always looking at the right maps.

The only method I use is visual compare.
I use a graphical program that supports layers (GIMP in this case).
I load the map and my 100% map as a layer.
Then zoom in to 200% and switch one layer on and off.
I use the 200% zoom since this makes it easier to see the difference

I can work with the difference model, but as long as my 100% map is not 100% clear I have a lot of problems with the clouds.

Fixing existing difference maps can be done.
I never tried it, but I think you can use them as a mask on a 100% map and highlight the differences.
This does require some knowledge about the graphical program you are using.

I 'quit' full compares on maps < 98%, those consume a lot of time and can be cleared by looking at the frequently missed spots.
I'm very sure that a lot of people above 99% are missing spots I've mentioned in #3439.
Fast comparing a 99+ map (with the viewer or a graph. program) takes a few minutes, but working the spot outs makes the total compare proces from downloading the map to posting the spots between 15 and 30 minutes for a single map. Comparing a map less than 99% takes a lot more time, since there are a lot more spots that need to be examined.

I'm also second in command in [LotU] and sometimes need to solve ingame issues in the guild. That also cuts playing time.
On the other hand, I still like to do the compares and help people out.
I did my compares today when we were waiting for a guild event to start, so no playing time lost there.

Not to rant or something like that, just to make sure people understand that I don't always have time to compare maps and they can clean up a lot themselfs without me doing a full compare.
I think my maps on page 164 are good enough to do most visual compares, since almost all leeway is in one spot.
This map, combined with post #3439 should enable anyone to get to 100%.

Dooms Passion

Dooms Passion

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

MinS

W/

Thanks jos i got the riverside and im at 99.9% + bubbles sooo close! All i can find so far is in the abbadons mouth mish but thats probably not all

sry bout that map but heres a new one

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3143/gw093ud0.jpg

maul barbarian

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

R/Mo

how do you get the small island just under the ship , i am on 99.0% 2 small bits to do 0.02% so maybe i need this island

Dooms Passion

Dooms Passion

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

MinS

W/

jos to save you some time, i got to 100% it was in hells precipice and i just didnt hug the left wall. thxs for the riverside advice. it really helped

BigUgly

BigUgly

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Albuquerque, NM

Stars Of Destiny

W/Me

Here is my map. I'm at 99.6%.


Thanks in advance!!!!

stiffler

stiffler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

South Australia

[ToR]

R/

Edit: Found the area.

leechazoid

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

The Order of the Chimaera

Hi All,

Following all your excellent advice I finally reached 99% but now I am completely stumped. I have used the tutorials and difference method and I am having trouble working out where that elusive last 1% is.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Map is here:

http://chimaera.idohost.com/images/Tyrian_99.bmp

I used a bitmap for better comparision (2.3meg). I hope that is ok.

Thanks in advance!

Star Gazer

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

W/

thanks for the response jos! Hopefully others will pick up how you are doing it and do it themselves...it sure would take the workload off of you a lot. Thanks again for the work!

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

leechazoid,

Deldrimor Bowl west wall and center rock formation (upper part)
Anvil Rock north and west wall
Beach above Gates of Kryta outpost
Gates of Kryta mission, north west of first boss
D'Alessio west wall, near bonus (delivery) area
Wall between Reed Bog and The Falls
Silverwood south east corner
Henge outpost, west side (collectors)
Riverside Province, kill last (east) tower and walk to water and on pier
Granite Citadel west wall
Spot between Droknar's and Ice Caves mission
Talus Chute, area between Icedome and Ice Caves outpost (you can clear it all the way up to the entrance to Icedome).
Witman's, walk out of Droks and down south
Evinia's cell in Ice Caves mission
North East corner of Ice Caves mission
South wall of Thunderhead Keep
Thirsty River, building with Ranger boss
Also the area just north/north west of Thirsty River in the Scar


BigUgly,

Thirsty River, building with Ranger boss
Thunderhead Keep north west side
Evinia's cell in Ice Caves mission
Iron Mines west wall
Ascalon Foothills South wall
Deldrimor Bowl south wall
Rock formation south of D'Alessio Seaboard mission entrance
I see a spot west of Beetletun
South east corner Black Curtain
West and North wall Riverside mission
Witman's, walk out of Droks and down south
Grent's Footprint south east corner
Silverwoods east wall

maul barbarian,
Please post a map, I can't see any. Look at post #3439 for frequently missed spots.


I think almost all the missed spots are mentioned in post #3439

maul barbarian

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

R/Mo

at 99.6% would appreciate your help ,heres the map

leechazoid

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

The Order of the Chimaera

Thank you so much the_jos!

I had no idea I missed so many areas. I will explore over the next few days and see where it gets me.


EDIT: One night of play following your advice and I am now at 99.7%. Wow! I have been to all the suggested places and that was great. I guess I will post another map in a few days to see if we can find that final 0.3%.

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

maul barbarian,

North and west wall of Anvil Rock
Center rock formation Deldrimor Bowl, lower part.
Deldrimor Bowl, south wall
Beach North Kryta Province, west side
West wall Ettin's Back
South west corner The Falls, also the wall between Reed Bog and The Falls
Riverside mission, kill last (east) tower, walk to water and on pier
Talus Chute, north wall (Icedome side)
Witman's, walk out of Droks and straight south
Spearhead Peek, the spot on the wall is too dence
Mineral Springs south wall
Iron Mines mission east wall
Thunderhead Keep, south wall (explore inside outpost) and north area (explore after mission)

ShadowVx

ShadowVx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

England

Stop Stealing [agro]

W/

Hi, ive followed the tips you posted and done some exploring of my own and im now on 99.4%, can ya help please?

Thanks in Advance

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

W/

Hi guys,

I have a question. When I make a screenshot of my map, and I open it in Paintshop Pro and I zoom in to look closer, everything is foggy. Prob my pixels are to low 1280x1024.
How can i make it sharp, so I can compare it with a map that I have downloaded? If you see the maps of TC, you can zoom in far and it's still sharp. Thanks in advance for advise

Dark-NighT

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

Woot i just made 100% exploration with my necro. It was hard but well worth the effort.

maul barbarian

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

R/Mo

thanks mate you saved me from madness i kneel to you.:

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

ShadowVx ,

Point In Talus Chute above Ice Caves mission outpost, up to Icedome entrance.
Grent's Footprint south east corner
Iron Mines west and east wall
Thunderhead Keep north area
Tombs outpost
Spot in central (little to south west) Ice Floe
Riverside mission, kill last east tower and walk to water and on pier

jbwarrior,
Are you sure the maps you mention are 1280x1024.
Maps that stay sharp are usually a lot larger, full-size, and composed with screens of the mini-map.
Use a 1280x1024 map and not a larger map for compares.
Or compare to your in game mini-map.

To all that have reached GMC the past few days: grats.

Because of personal matters I probably won't be very active in this thread the next couple of weeks.

Cirandel

Cirandel

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Finland

[FAR]

R/

Here is my 100% map for you Legolas =)

Legolas Sindarijns

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

Arvin

R/

Thank you very much Cirandel.. =)

X of Thulcandra

X of Thulcandra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Sector 001

N/A

W/

Yeah, I haven't had a lot of time to play lately due to school (which is almost over!), and I was wondering if some of you mapping pros could give me some insight as to where I need to explore...I also can't seem to uncover that faint haze above Borlis Pass, even by wall hugging in both Iron Horse Mines and in the mission itself. Anyways, here is my map...

P.S. - I am at 98.5%.

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

I've made a quick compare and highlighted most of the spots you are missing.

Les Paul

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

LSix

Mo/

I got to 99.9% last night using the map compare method...almost feels like cheating. I still have a few very tiny spots covered in the Southern Shivers & 1 in old ascalon. I want to see if those will get me the 100%. I still have a large area in Hell's Precipice on west side of map but curious if I can get the title without even doing that section.

BTW, Can you open any of the old arena arenas that are now part of the Random PVP areas? I'd like that little island south of Lions Arch open if I could get it

Farrell-Zander

Farrell-Zander

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Switzerland

Hello First I wanted to say you guys are doing a great job helping all these people getting their GMC. Second, could you please help me get mine? I'm currently at 98.6% and I'm having problems comparing my old picture with my map cause of the bad quality. The new pic is 1920x1200, hopefuly that works, if not I'll add the right res. Thanks very much!

MrTickle

MrTickle

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

delete this account

N/

Thanks the_jos I don't know how I could miss that in the crystal desert

I'm now at 98.2% after finding a few other small areas around ascalon.

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

Les Paul,

I'd say give it a shot.
I've seen GMC maps with large parts of Hell's still covered (on a Dervish)
I'm not sure about the island, whether or not you can get it by entering one of the random arenas.
You don't need it for gmc, that's for sure.

Farrell-Zander,
- Dunes bonus area has a spot on the west wall
- Arid Sea just above west entrance
- Thristy River ranger boss building
- Prophet's path, area near collector outside Amoon (near first portal)
- Prophet's path, east of north west entrance (Salt Flats)
- Thunderhead upper part and south wall
- Iron Mines mission, Evinia's cell, also a spot in the north east corner
- Talus Chute, east wall ( area above Ice Caves, all the way up to Icedome)
- Witman's, exit Droknar's and head straight south
- Grent's Footprint south wall
- Spearhead, the spot between Spearhead and Tasca's, also south west corner
- Frozen Forrest, spot in center (to the west side)
- Iron Mines, east wall (lower parts)
- Snakes dance, south west corner
- Nolani mission, south and west wall
- Regent Valley, tar lake
- Dragon's Gullet, north wall
- Borlis Pass, north wall
- Deldrimor Bowl, center rock formation (upper part)
- Anvil Rock, spot on north wall, also lower part west wall
- The Wilds outpost, west side
- Bloodstone outpost, south west corner

For frequently missed spots check:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10160387

Amaterasu

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

TsH

N/Mo

i stuck at 99.8%. Can some1 scan my map?? Pls!

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

Amaterasu,

It's hard to see the differences on your map.
I've noted 3 spots so far:
- South wall Thunderhead (explore inside outpost)
- Spot between Droknar's and Ice Caves outpost (explore from north east Droks)
- south west corner Riverside mission (walk behind the stuff that's in that corner after killing the tower

Amaterasu

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

TsH

N/Mo

THX! Ill explore those places.

Amaterasu

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

TsH

N/Mo

I already explored those places, but i still have 99.8%. Please, look on my map again.

Orual Fox

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Here

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] Alliance

R/

Allrighty,

I checked everywhere that was mentioned in #3436, except 1 spot, which is the upper west wall of Dunes, it doesn't look like much there in comparing, but I will get to it soon.

I also tried rescraping the upper wall of Riverside Province and it nothing changed. Also, I scraped the east wall of Mineral Springs, and I didn't see anything change there either. Just mentioning these two to see if I am doing something wrong.

I am now at 99.5 thankfully. Just about a whole % more than last time. I am working through that post of Frequently missed places, but as I do so, do you notice anything else? I can provide closeups if needed.

Bill Easternview

Bill Easternview

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Behind you a safe distance

Legion of Avalon

Mo/

Orual Fox,
Did a quick scan of your last map posting, comparing it to my Tyria Final.

Most of your missing area is in the mountains.
Deldrimor Bowl, south and east sides
Frost Gate mission area, bits and pieces
Lornar's pass, both sides
Snake Dance, south west corner

Plus, Dunes of Despair, North West corner, probably NOT inside the bonus area.

No big areas missing, obviously, but quite a few small ones.

Bill Easternview

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

Orual and Amaterasu, I've attached maps with missing spots highlighted.
Amaterasu, I still can't get your map to match mine 100%, don't know why.
I keep getting strange spots appear that are not related to clouds but are also not differences.

Bill Easternview

Bill Easternview

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Behind you a safe distance

Legion of Avalon

Mo/

Amaterasu,

Uh Oh, cross-posting with the_jos, lol

Reviewing your last posted map found the following areas.
North East corner of The Scar.
Far South East Corner of Aurora Glade mission area, in the last part of mission.
Sanctum Cay mission area, North East corner, where the monsters are gathered.
Frost Gate mission area, far South East corner, place you have to get onto the alternate road to reach.
Thunderhead Keep mission area, final battle area, through the east gate and head east.

Bill Easternview

Orual Fox

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Here

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] Alliance

R/

Jeez. Thinking I am only missing .5....but man, that's a lot of red circles .

Thanks for the map, I will get right on it.

When I do get 100% I will be sure to post it here so anyone else can use it, or if you would want it for anything.

maul barbarian

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

R/Mo

thanks for my tyria cartography title pity you dont check cantha and elonia maps cheers anyway

Amaterasu

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

TsH

N/Mo

THX Jos! After 400h on this char i explored all tyria! THX!

stiffler

stiffler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

South Australia

[ToR]

R/

Hey there, any help will be much appreciated. I have 99.2% uncovered, I am also wondering what those two islands are that are uncovered on the page 1 maps. One is south east of Ember Light Camp and the other is south of Kryta in the middle of the sea. Cheers.