Special pet for CE owners

According to the latest Gaile chatlog, I don't think this is possible. Specifically, she says "You may replace the SE key with a CE key, yes. It will not return the SE key, but you will get the dances. And pet."

From the way she phrases it, I think existing players who already have Factions added to an account are going to lose one access key should they try to replace Factions with the Collectors edition.

I bought regular edition today.. this makes me sad. Have wanted a mini pet since I heard they were avialable.. Store didnt have CE.. found this out and this brought a tear to my eye.. Yes I should have waited but didnt know of this special gift..

And I dont have additional 60$ to spend on CE... So if anyone care to give me their Mini pet.. I would love it. And no I promise, I will not sell it. I would really really want one.

Thanks in advance.. and Im happy for those who waited on CE

lol. I think A-Net figure out the background dancers weren't good enough to make the CE really stand out. Besides, the extra non-in game stuff are junk to me. The first version had a headset, but my primary reasons to buy it was for the glowing hands (divine aura). Factions CE was for the background dancers. It's the virtual items I prefer, not those extra accessories that probably won't have storage room in the house. I know I'm not selling my pet. It's mine...

Contemplating on getting another CE edition. If I like the pet, I may just do that...

I think it's more, sorry we messed up, but here's something to help make it up. It will be avaible in 10 days (as soon as we can program this in to the game and link to the key system...)

Aka calm us down now.. and if it sells more CE edition's that's cool too.

Ok, but that's just you. My point is that it cost A-Net money to make those things, and that's why it's more expensive.

zomg.. i can trade in my ps2 for at least 50 dollars. That would take care half of my payment for collector edition.

I can't wait to get the mini pet.

Can someone explain.. if heaven above sent me additional 60$ to buy CE.. do I have to make a new account, or will regular prophecies gw go away if i add CE key to existing factions? I got gw and factions (not CE).. Help pls..

*Applauds the marketing guy at anet*....you're goooooood...really good.
Look how quickly you stopped the complaining..and how many people are going to re-order the CE they had cancelled.

My point is completely lost, apparently. You can't compare the Halloween or Wintersday items to these new pets, because everybody who had the game at that time had the opportunity to get them.

Here it goes, one more time. The problem I have is not that people who waited for the CE are getting rewarded for their patience. It is that they are getting rewarded with something they can sell in game.

Well if anyone feel nice and care to give me a mini pet to make me happy again.. my IGN is Angel djinn.. No joke I am really sad about anet not telling us people a couple of days before..


Thanks anet.. good game, but this isnt quite fair.

I see exactly where you're coming from. What ANet needs to do is make it so you can't sell the special minipets, similar to what they're doing with the pre-order items. They're automatically customized to your character, so you can't sell them unless you find some idiot who doesn't realize he'll never be able to use it.

Thank you I'm glad someone understands and agrees with me.

is it me or this new pet completely level the playing field for regular mini pets. People might spend more money (like 500k or more) for these new one compared with the regular one you get from your present.

So sorry, but that would only further alienate the patient CE-awaiting fans, don't you think? "Here's something for waiting! Oh, but you can't trade it. Or sell it. Or let a guildie borrow it. Or transfer it between characters, so we hope you put it on the right character... but thanks for waiting!"

......

Personally, after all the hassle and waiting and all the cell phone minutes spent calling Best Buy and Gamestop and EBGames and CompUSA... to be given a concilatory gift with only half-functionality would be almost as much a further insult as it would be reconciling, ne? Firstly, many people won't sell the pet, so this isn't a univseral problem--and moreover, even though I know some people WILL sell it for in-game money.... are we to begrudge them this? So they saved themselves a few hours of ettin farming. In the grand scheme of things, how much does this really matter. That much money is easily blown on one Bulwark and a Brhon's Rod anyway, so it's not that big a deal.

Besides, making it untradable means that ONLY CE buyers can get their hands on this. At least as it stands, non-CE owners can still get one if they really want it.

happy happy joy joy.

My Horsie will have a friend, shame they can not play together...

lol i didnt even have to wait, got my CE on day of release so BONUS FOR ME

a big no to customized though, i want all my characters to take it for walkies

i feel for your horsie :'(

I don't see how it's a slap in the face. Those of us who pre-orderd can't sell our weapons or give them to guildies. Why should the pet be any different, particularly when it has the ability to bring in enormous amounts of wealth? It's still a cool item that they can show off but that should be the extent of it. And to keep things equal, you could give one to every character made under a CE license number (or Prophecies account linked to that CE). But to allow someone to gain 500K or more in gold for "waiting" is ridiculous, especially since this wasn't promised when the CE origianlly came out. I can see spammage of 1000K already...

Read all of my posts before commenting. I've addressed that concern.

Only CE buyers can use the special dance emotes as well. That's their in-game bonus for buying it. Now this new minipet is their bonus for being patience. Making it tradable is the equivalent of saying you can choose between a new minipet or a ridiculous amount of in-game gold.

Its kinda a waste of inventory space, do they have a gallery or do they actually take up a slot in your inventory, do min pets do anything?

I'd think something like collectable in game guild war cards would be cool with a gallery seperate from your inventory. Even a little mini card game lol, not to take it to far.

If not cards I dont see why Id wanto waste space with little toys in your inventory.

I'm not 100 percent certain what they are planning to do with this whole min pet thing, but I know cards would of been a better choice.

I'm going to post this all in bold so everybody sees it, since a bunch of people keep getting it wrong.

I never said it should be customized. I said it should not be tradable. These are completely different. I can sell my customized armor, weapons, etc... it's just the people who buy them can't equip them. The pre-order weapons can't be traded to a person who doesn't have the pre-order. Just try it if you don't believe me..

I'm not sure there's any argument against that. Assuming the market demand is high enough, that's essentially true.

Ardrid, Agent... I think that root difference is that you see this as Wrong. Though it is as you say, I'm not sure I can agree this that is ridiculously unfair overall (fairness to those who HAD preordered, then gave up and ordered a regular edition... that's another matter entirely). Besides, the difference between regular and CE is about $20, right? It's not like you can't take that same $20 elsewhere and get 300K for it (disclaimer: purchasing gold through eBay violates the EULA and will make ANet hunt you down. And shoot you in the foot).

Mod Edit: Link's to EBay gold sales are not allowed on these forums.

OMG....now we're talking!

Suddenly the CE has a whole new appeal to it and I was considering cancelling mine. I just hope I get it before the 12th, cuz after that I'm leaving the US for the summer.

TY Anet, and I hope it flies!

If only those of us who already have the normal version could pay the $20 difference and upgrade to CE without having to buy a whole new copy.

I don't see the minipet as wrong. I think it's a great idea and I'm miffed that I'm one of those ppl who gave up my CE due to the 10-day fiasco. That aside, I don't think that cool item should be used to allow CE owners to profit at the expense of everyone else. If this new minipet were capable of being had by everyone and it's just that CE owners get it immediately rather than having to wait for their bday, then no big deal. It's the fact that it's CE exclusive that's the problem because it's rarity is going to automatically send prices threw the roof and the only ppl who benefit from this massive influx of money are the CE owners.

wait...i guess i don't understand it
if you already have CE for factions you will get the minipet too?

also, that's too bad that you can't add a CE key to an acct that has regular. I was actually thinking about buying a CE just to get the dance and the pet. My account right now has prophecies and factions standard edition and preorder for both. what would heppen if i added factions CE?

btw does the dance work for other professions? also what if you have CE for both(i don't i'm just wondering), what is dance like?

yes you will

In reference to what I bolded, read my original post on the first page.

Also, about the eBay money, I was going to bring this up earlier when someone said $30 is worth more than 100k + xxx ectos, but didn't because I didn't want people think I've bought eBay money, which I never have. I have, however, seen the prices of it. The last time I saw them, it was $10 for 100k gold. So, a person could spend $30 on eBay and only get 300k. The person who bought the CE gets all the extra physical goodies, the new dance emote, plus something that's worth 600k or more.

benefits of the CE, why shouldnt ce owners have something extra since they paid more for it, seems like the only people annoyed are those who would try to cash in on it. i know im keeping mine no matter how much anyone offers cos lets face it, its gonna rock. oh and its only pretend in game money anyway, its not gonna effect your real life is it. jeez

I could just post a really mean picture and tell you to untwist your panties, but I'll explain why you're making a mountain out of a mole-hill.

You can very easily compare these Mini's to the Halloween/Wintersday items, because back then, remember how flooded LA became? I know quite a few people whose connections couldn't hold up during it and their net crashed. I'm sure we all know a few people who couldn't even connect to LA due to tech issues like that. Hell, I'm running on a powerhouse of a computer with a silky smooth high-speed line and I was having trouble in LA.

Compare that lack of access to what's happened with the CEs, and why exactly ANet has given CErs the CE-exclusive Minipet. It's due to a lack of access. And an even greater, more severe lack of access in the case of the CE.

In the case of the Halloween/Wintersday events, at least those people could still get in-game.

In the case of the CE Minipets scenario, CErs can't even access anything related to Factions. They pre-ordered Factions so they could play Factions.

You may counter the above points by asking why didn't ANet retroactively re-imburse those players whose computers crapped out, and now suddenly why are they providing an extra perk to the inaccessibles. The answer is fairly simple:

In no way is the CE catastrophe due to technical issues on the players' parts, or load on the servers. The CE catastrophe is entirely due to sloppy and mismanaged production schedules and miscommunications.

And while I'll be one of the first to state how many people on these boards can't read worth a damn, there was an incredible number of people who completely misunderstood the Grace Period, which shouldn't be the case.

Every single time there was an attempted clarification, some people just became more and more confused, because sometimes? We were getting conflicting feedback. One user had posted the email he received from Customer Support, and it was stating something completely contradictory to what Gaile has said.

There have been meandering press releases almost every few hours, it seems, each less succinct than the previous ones, and in fact raising more questions than answering others.

The ball here was dropped entirely on the production side, not the consumer side. The consumers were completely innocent in this case.

Had the Pumpkin Crowns and Santa Hats been transferrable, do you think people would have been as pissed off about missing the events? Absolutely not. The Halloween Brews, Candy Cane weapons, and Candy Canes themselves are still popular for one reason only: they're transferrable. And people are selling them...the Candy Cane weps/items at least. What good would they have done had they been locked on certain characters or accounts? Absolutely nothing.

Regarding the selling in-game thing...check out what the Mini Charr Shaman is selling for. That's one of the birthday items. Mini Rurik is selling for a lot, too. He's one of the birthday items. You want to take issue with just the CE Mini? Based solely on the ability to sell it in-game? You need to be targeting much, much more than just the CE Mini.

And quite frankly, it's nice to finally see some peace offering from the Devs for the CErs.

I think that this is a great idea. I would be willing to pay even $30 for it prolly. I really want that minipet. Anet is going to sell character slots so why not do this? MAybe we'd even be able to get the calendar, mousepad, etc. with it.

Yeah, I brought that up in one of my original posts.

This is not to flame you, but does nobody read threads from the beginning?

I've been wondering about this... now that the CE will give us a mini dragon, on top of the 1 year mini pet present, does that mean our 1 year old CE characters will have TWO mini pets?!?

You could, but that'd be a cop out. My argument is valid and logical, and I've backed up all my points. I'm not just doing it to be an asshole.

I wasn't playing at the time, so no, I know of nothing like that. I'm assuming, though, that it lasted a while, so there was still a good chance everybody who knew about it and wanted it could get one?

I've already said, many times, that they should be rewarded for their patience. I'm not going to repeat again what I already have.

Customer Support sucks. I asked them a simple question once, and it took 3 tries of going back and forth for them to give me the answer "Read the FAQ." The answer to my specific question wasn't even in the FAQ. That's a whole different issue.

That point's completely invalid, assuming the same things will be available next Halloween and Wintersday. I'm fine with waiting for them. Are you saying the Pumpkin Crowns and Santa Hats are not still popular? I still see lots of people show them off. Also, the sellable items have a use. The customized items are just for show.

You completely agreed with me without realizing it. There's no reason to take issue with the birthday items, because once my characters hit one year, they will also get them.

woot im glad i waited! anyways how about this idea they customize it and and add some new emote thingy like /CEpet or something like that so it would be non tradeable and you could get it on all your chars?

...I'll be the first to ask..anyone who has it..can you please post a pic?

I'm not touching the "you can sell the mini-dragon" argument. But, I did want to say that I'm very happy that a whole bunch of you are happy.

Thanks to all of you for your positive attitudes, and thanks, ANet.

Wouldn't EVERY character on your Factions CE account get one of these?

Only the first few people are going to be out there buying these for insane amounts of money. These things will flood the market if all it takes is for me to create a character, put it in storage, delete and start over.

Anyways...I already bought Factions, and wanted to just buy the CE and put it on my brothers account, but I may keep it on my account and just completely waste $50...we'll see...depends on how crazy I'm feeling when I finally find a copy of the CE.

I think people who waited for the delayed CE should be rewarded only.. it seems only fair, since they are the one who waited, but Anet probably can't determine who waited or not.. since a person who had CE on the day of release can easily activate the code a month later.

Aww.. since I cancelled my CE for SE.. I'm missing out on the special dance and now the miniature dragon!! Aaaggrrhhhh~~

Your argument is barely valid and logical, though. All it's comprised of is attacking the idea of giving CErs a CE Minipet that functions in a similar manner to the Minipets recently introduced. And I say, why the hell should the CE Minipet be limited?

Every three hours, LA became a net connection's worst nightmare. Moving was almost impossible. Following the King's commands was extremely difficult due to lag spikes.

And that's exactly what's going on here, as much as you don't like it.

It's not a whole different issue, because it all relates back to the idea of absolutely dreadful intra-company communication channels. And the past week has been one intra-company communication channel shitstorm after another.

They might be, but they might not be available next time. But either way, the Insta-Customization of the Pumpkin Crown and Santa Hats was a pain, because some players out there wanted them and they couldn't have them. Buying them from someone meant absolutely nothing, because they weren't going to be able to wear them.

I see a few Crowns and Hats still, too.

But their novelty has worn off by now, so pretty much nobody cares about them anymore. Back when they were introduced, however, people were bitching about how they were Customized.

And you've got it a bit backwards regarding the Candy Canes and brews. Those items still have a use because they're sellable. They're not restricted to a specific account or character.

How can you seriously point to the Birthday Minipets and say the CE Minipets shouldn't function like that? The very idea behind the Minipet is a lot like Pokemon: collect and trade them.

Think about that for a moment. What is ultimately better for the playerbase?

CE Minipets that only a select few can have, due to them being customized to the account itself?

-or-

CE Minipets that everyone can at least have the possibility to acquire?

And keeping in mind what the goal behind the Minipets is...Pokemon-esque trade/collection.

You want to bind the CE Minipets to the CE accounts, which limits everyone's freedom and will ultimately only further drive a wedge between the SE and the CErs. You don't want unfairness when it comes to the Minipet "market"? Make it a free market, and don't limit what the CErs can do with their Minipets, especially when fundamentally, there's no difference at all between the regular Minipets and the CE Minipets.

Like I've said before, you're making a mountain out of a mole-hill here. Where the previous players during Halloween/Wintersday were bitching about items being Customized, you're bitching about items not being Customized. And yes, you are arguing for Customization, so don't deny it. Binding something to an account is still Customization.

EDIT: See, the biggest problem with your entire argument here is that...the Pumpkin Crowns and Santa Hats were entirely for show. The Minipets are not. Minipets are basically GW Pokemon. They're designed to be traded, collected, sold (if the players so desire). The CE Minipet should be no different. I'm a CEr, but I'm not arguing against you because I want to price-gouge the market. I'm arguing against you because I want a free market where people have freedom to do what they want. Account-Binding will severely limit player freedom.