Special pet for CE owners

kaya

kaya

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

NBK

05 May 2006 at 17:24 - 281
Quote:
Originally Posted by agentnull
Logic lesson...

E = every person
N = no person
X = one specific person
A = an adjective

"If E is A, then X is A" is true.
"If X is not A, then N is A" is false.

It doesn't matter whether you will sell the minidragon. It matters that you and every other CE owner can, and at least one will.

Addition: Do you even know what cynic means?
and if that one person does... will it affect you?
answer: only if your the one buying it.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

05 May 2006 at 17:25 - 282
Quote:
Originally Posted by agentnull

Addition: Do you even know what cynic means?
ummmm...............someone who was too impatient to wait for his CE and grabbed whatever was available and now wants Anet to hand him a 1k plat dragon for the price difference?

is it sour grapes or should i try door number 2?

agentnull

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Michigan

Renegades Causing Havoc

W/

05 May 2006 at 17:32 - 283
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaya
and if that one person does... will it affect you?
answer: only if your the one buying it.
Are you trying to say someone shouldn't argue for or against something that doesn't affect them, or are you saying there's some reason I, specifically, shouldn't?

Death by Ooga Booga

Death by Ooga Booga

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

TBMF

05 May 2006 at 17:34 - 284
Well I just called Gamestop and they said they will NOT be getting the CE for quite some time. Said none of their stores in the valley are getting them. (Salt lake city Utah) Does anybody know for sure what stores have them? Like Best Buy or some other major stores?

agentnull

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Michigan

Renegades Causing Havoc

W/

05 May 2006 at 17:34 - 285
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
ummmm...............someone who was too impatient to wait for his CE and grabbed whatever was available and now wants Anet to hand him a 1k plat dragon for the price difference?

is it sour grapes or should i try door number 2?
You've either (a) not read all my posts or (b) blatantly ignored what I've said.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

05 May 2006 at 17:38 - 286
Quote:
Originally Posted by clarianaeneas
Imo it was a good solution; think about it, they had angry masses who preordered CE's, they add a little gift, they make them all happy! Perfect business solution, all those who were threatening to cancel their CE's and decrease Anet's revenue are now pleased.

As for those who say it's unfair, guess what? It's not. I paid more than you did for my CE, and I had to wait a week later than to play the game, I deserve a little something extra in return.

TY Anet, and I can't wait to get my CE, which should be tomorrow according to EB Games .

ps. plz don't customize it. I'd never sell mine, but it would just lose it's value if it became a customized plain old blue item, like the preorder weapons.
no, the better solution, two mini pet, one dragon, and one glint!

kaya

kaya

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

NBK

05 May 2006 at 17:39 - 287
Quote:
Originally Posted by agentnull
Are you trying to say someone shouldn't argue for or against something that doesn't affect them, or are you saying there's some reason I, specifically, shouldn't?
You wanted a true argument, so i'm giving it to you...

I'm not saying either of those... I'll put it this way... Why would you argue something so aggressively if it doesnt affect you?

So far the only affect i'm seeing that its having on you is jealousy. Or is there something else your hiding?

kaya

kaya

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

NBK

05 May 2006 at 17:42 - 288
Quote:
Originally Posted by Death by Ooga Booga
Well I just called Gamestop and they said they will NOT be getting the CE for quite some time. Said none of their stores in the valley are getting them. (Salt lake city Utah) Does anybody know for sure what stores have them? Like Best Buy or some other major stores?

hey, ooga booga, your location is way near mine. The salt lake best buy has them in right now... not even kidding. call them up, and grab your copy. i think they only had a few.
use this link if you need a confirmation of it. Linky

in fact you'll notice the best buy in riverdale, salt lake, murray, and logan all have them.

i'm gonna pick one up for my bro in orem in 45 min when the unpack the boxes.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

05 May 2006 at 17:59 - 289
All you getting CEs: I hate you all.

(Just kidding.)

agentnull: I've read every post from you, and still don't get your point. For the last time, the Dragons don't do anything.

For that matter, neither does Gold. Drop rates are increasing. Green items are getting more common. Craftable items are very nice.

In short, there's no reason to complain about people being rich (or, more to the point, people with the potential to be rich).

And who here doubts the Kuunavang Dragon could be a Green next year? (well, I hope anyway)

kaya

kaya

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

NBK

05 May 2006 at 18:20 - 290
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
All you getting CEs: I hate you all.

(Just kidding.)

agentnull: I've read every post from you, and still don't get your point. For the last time, the Dragons don't do anything.

For that matter, neither does Gold. Drop rates are increasing. Green items are getting more common. Craftable items are very nice.

In short, there's no reason to complain about people being rich (or, more to the point, people with the potential to be rich).

And who here doubts the Kuunavang Dragon could be a Green next year? (well, I hope anyway)
Honestly there's a good chance it'll be a green next year. but then again... I'm not sure they'd give out collector items as gifts to random 2 year old charaters. That would be kinda a slap in the face to the ones who had to wait for the CE to come out to play factions. But then again, it was kinda a gift for us as well... Anyway it's up to them. BTW, thanks again for the gift.

ok, now i got another point to argue. this is for agentnull, and anyone else worried how this dragon will affect the eco:

Farming new items in factions could very well have made me just as much as selling one of these dragons would make me. We all know how highly priced new found items can be in a game like this. But, since we hanvt been able to play factions as of yet, a dragon that does nothing should be an okay gift for us right?
Just yesterday a friend of mine was filling me in on the money he's been able to make just since factions came out, and I was amazed at the large sum he quoted me. If he was interested (which he's not), i'm sure he could purchase a dragon mini with the gold he's made in that short period of time.
Yes, the eco will be bumpy for a while, but it wont be because of theese mini's, it's becasue of the new chapter, and how hard it is to mix new with old.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

05 May 2006 at 18:32 - 291
Quote:
Originally Posted by agentnull
You've either (a) not read all my posts or (b) blatantly ignored what I've said.
no null i did read and here is your rant

Quote:
That was me being too angry to post without triggering the filter. What about the people who were going to buy the CE, but then decided not to because of the delay? I didn't want to be teased for a couple of days, then have to wait a couple days, etc... Now, of course people are going to tell me I should have, that I'm not a hardcore fan because I'm impatient, but oh well.

Why doesn't A-Net allow people to buy (for like $5-$10) the dances and/or the presents?

Dakota Collins

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Cold Fusion

Mo/E

05 May 2006 at 18:39 - 292
i added my CE key today...
the new dance doesn't work.
i got no gift.

lame.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

05 May 2006 at 18:41 - 293
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dakota Collins
i added my CE key today...
the new dance doesn't work.
i got no gift.

lame.
Dances are only for Ritualists and Assassins.

Gift will be available in about 10 days.

Read before you post.

Dakota Collins

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Cold Fusion

Mo/E

05 May 2006 at 18:42 - 294
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
Dances are only for Ritualists and Assassins.

Gift will be available in about 10 days.

Read before you post.
no thanks. not 15 pages worth, when you just answered it for me in 3 seconds.

thank you.

Ghull Ka

Ghull Ka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle, WA

Grenths Helpdesk

N/

05 May 2006 at 18:46 - 295
^^ also the /dance emote doesn't give you the backup dancers.

On your assassins and ritualists, use /dancenew to see the backup dancers.

But be warned, if you do this on a male ritualist, your brain will melt. Please notify your next of kin before doing /dancenew (or /dance) on a male ritualist.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

05 May 2006 at 18:48 - 296
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghull Ka
But be warned, if you do this on a male ritualist, your brain will melt. Please notify your next of kin before doing /dancenew (or /dance) on a male ritualist.
OMG, HAHAHAHAHA!

tivaan stormbringer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

R/N

05 May 2006 at 18:51 - 297
My opinion: Those of us that paid for more than 1 accnt (such as two chp 1 and two chp 2 which can be verified with keys) should get some kind of recognition since they are saying that CE account holders are supporting Guildwars, what are we doing?

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

05 May 2006 at 19:06 - 298
omg.. i was at a new zone today and a male rit was dancing away (than backup dancers came up). I swear i become temporary blind for a minute..

frojack

frojack

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

London, UK

Rite Of Passage [RP]

E/Mo

05 May 2006 at 19:15 - 299
Am I the only one who thinks a certain someone has become a troll, and thus, should be ignored?

This is as fair as it get's. Get over it.

Am I complaining that I wasn't around when unconditional 15% damage weapons we're dropping. Which I might add are worth a hell of a lot more than any baby dragon? No.

The 20/20 Rockmolder didn't drop for me? No

I didn't find any more than 3 Superior Absorptions and sell then when they we're worth 100K+? No.

Should I also be upset about coming into the game relatively late and having all the 'cool' names for characters/guilds already taken? No.

That is the nature of materialism. It would not be valuable if everyone had said item. Re-sellable or not. The fact is, your only pissed because you want one and can't have one. Either because you don't want to pay extra or you couldn't wait in the first place. The fact that you can 'still' get 1 anyway, 20 bucks extra or not is something you should be thanking Anet for.

Jealousy and envy have many faces.

BTW Anet/Gaile. For my b' day (coming soon, I want a baby Bladed Attxe. Thanks, luv' ya' :P )

kaya

kaya

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

NBK

05 May 2006 at 19:22 - 300
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghull Ka
^^ also the /dance emote doesn't give you the backup dancers.

On your assassins and ritualists, use /dancenew to see the backup dancers.

But be warned, if you do this on a male ritualist, your brain will melt. Please notify your next of kin before doing /dancenew (or /dance) on a male ritualist.

lol, this is my favorite dance of them all. I will cherish it forever.

Ghull Ka

Ghull Ka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle, WA

Grenths Helpdesk

N/

05 May 2006 at 19:29 - 301
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaya
lol, this is my favorite dance of them all. I will cherish it forever.
Only for the destructive power it brings, I bet. Your primary character must be a necromancer.

I would LOVE Baby Bladed Aatxe for my birthday!!

Delivery of CE is still in transit... c'mon UPS, knock on my door!

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

05 May 2006 at 19:31 - 302
Quote:
Originally Posted by frojack

BTW Anet/Gaile. For my b' day (coming soon, I want a baby Bladed Attxe. Thanks, luv' ya' :P )
UNfortunately most of my characters have birthdays 5-8 months away. (jade armor for 1)

fortunately that gives me a chance at the additional new mini pets from chapter 3

win some lose some

CE on schedule for monday

tivaan stormbringer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

R/N

05 May 2006 at 19:40 - 303
I am in no way jealous or mad that the CE people get these pets (afterall I have 2 ruriks and 1 bone dragon) i just dont like the reason that ANET gave for the release of the new pet to CE owners...to thank them for the support....what about the rest of us...as I noted.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

05 May 2006 at 19:43 - 304
Quote:
Originally Posted by tivaan stormbringer
I am in no way jealous or mad that the CE people get these pets (afterall I have 2 ruriks and 1 bone dragon) i just dont like the reason that ANET gave for the release of the new pet to CE owners...to thank them for the support....what about the rest of us...as I noted.
What about us? We could buy the CE too. It's our choice.

This is a little something extra for the CE people having to wait, that's all.

MasterThrawn

MasterThrawn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Gryffindor

05 May 2006 at 19:50 - 305
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
What about us? We could buy the CE too. It's our choice.

This is a little something extra for the CE people having to wait, that's all.
Not really. I WANTED the CE, there was none there. Best Buy told me they had no idea when or if they would get them (Preordered). I heard about the delays, and decided I would just get the SE. If I had my choice I would have CE right now. Sure I could have waited and seen what happened in a week or two, but at the time I thought my access would run out (before they announced the extension). Didn't want that to happen, and wanted the game on the first day it came out, and now I hear about this. I hope this thread goes away soon - makes me mad everytime I see it.

vinegrower

vinegrower

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Song of the Forsaken

E/

05 May 2006 at 19:55 - 306
Gaile - if you can make me a mini-pet Cliff Racer, I'll come down to the studio and make coffee and cookies for everyone.

ShadowX13

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

05 May 2006 at 19:55 - 307
well, like most of GW fans, I preorder both the regular and collector's edition (going to pick up my CE today). I don't plan to merge my accounts since I think it's a bit unrasonable for wasting the char. slots for my CE when I already have combine my regular editions already.

So, I got this funny idea when someone mention Glint. What if Anet reproduce the orginal GW CE w/ the mini-Glint to promote the old CE. I never was able to buy that version since it was unavailable in my location for awhile. I wouldn't mind buying the old CE and combine it to the new CE for fractions.

Just a random thought. Would like to hear what you all think about it.

kaya

kaya

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

NBK

05 May 2006 at 20:03 - 308
i just picked up my CE... here's how it went:

11:30 calls bestbuy online support, and finds out theres no update on my pre-order of factions

12:20 checks bestbuy.com and see that my local store just got the CE in.

12:30 takes lunch break, and heads to bestbuy to snag a copy.

12:40 chats with customer service to find out where the factions CE's are, *explains how i know they have them cause i say it online.

12:50 after waiting the lady comes out of the warehouse carying a box, and preceeds to stick pricetags on the games.

12:55 checks out

1:00 calls Bestbuy online support to check again on my pre-order. (still nothing new). I then proceed to inform them that the reason I pre-order a game is to insure that I will recieve my copy. They agree. I continue and let them know that I just bought a copy of Factions CE from one of their stores. And in fact they just recieved a shipment of them, and as far as I know this happened at every stor near my location. I then ask if they cant fill my pre-order, then how can they stock all their stores with the game. I then get a fairly decent apology, afterwich i cancled my pre-order and went on my way.

I dont understand why they do things this way. I pre-order CE from a store, I should get it before that random mofo who walks into the same store and picks it up off the shelf. At least a confirmation that they have them in stock, and mine on its way.

tivaan stormbringer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

R/N

05 May 2006 at 20:03 - 309
your missing my point and that is again ....ANET stating... they were doing this for CE people because of the support they giving for buying the more expensive CE edition well my question is what about those people that bought two regular editions that is more support if not the same support ....isnt it? where is our prize?

Ghull Ka

Ghull Ka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle, WA

Grenths Helpdesk

N/

05 May 2006 at 20:08 - 310
Quote:
Originally Posted by vinegrower
Gaile - if you can make me a mini-pet Cliff Racer, I'll come down to the studio and make coffee and cookies for everyone.
Miniature Jeff Strain > Miniature Cliff Racer.

Especially one that says "Hi, I'm Jeff Strain!" and waves every now and then. That'd be so leet.

@ tivaan stormbringer:
It's one thing to graciously accept a gift for something you've done. It's entirely different to demand or expect a gift for all of the other things that you've done. They've given us a gift, this doesn't give us the right to start demanding other gifts. Don't worry, be happy, n' all that.

kaya

kaya

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

NBK

05 May 2006 at 20:11 - 311
Quote:
Originally Posted by tivaan stormbringer
your missing my point and that is again ....ANET stating... they were doing this for CE people because of the support they giving for buying the more expensive CE edition well my question is what about those people that bought two regular editions that is more support if not the same support ....isnt it? where is our prize?

thats not why they did this. as i understand it, they did it because of the mix up they had with getting the CE out on time. think of this as an apology

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

05 May 2006 at 20:13 - 312
Quote:
Originally Posted by tivaan stormbringer
your missing my point and that is again ....ANET stating... they were doing this for CE people because of the support they giving for buying the more expensive CE edition well my question is what about those people that bought two regular editions that is more support if not the same support ....isnt it? where is our prize?
This is the quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anet
To show our appreciation for your support and patience as you wait for your CE to arrive...
They are not rewarding the "support" of CE buyers. We all support GW, and many of us wanted the CE, but wanted to play more (increasing the release day sales, BTW, which should count for marketing more than "how many CEs sold.").

They are rewarding the support and patience of CE players waiting for their CE to arrive. There is a slight difference there.

I'm dealing with it. I've been playing Factions for a week (something I would not have been able to do had I waited for the CE). I don't have to deal with Best Buy, or EB games anymore.

And, if this offer still stands, and the CE is available on shelf in July, I may just buy it. It would be nice to get something extra (like more bonus slots or something), since I'll effectively replace my reg. key with a CE one.

People with 2 accounts are kinda screwed, esp. once they start selling slots. I would stop buying two versions, buy your extra slots, and use the saved money to upgrade to a CE (too late now, I know).

Maybe next time...

tivaan stormbringer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

R/N

05 May 2006 at 20:22 - 313
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaya
thats not why they did this. as i understand it, they did it because of the mix up they had with getting the CE out on time. think of this as an apology
Hey if that is the reason then I support that cause ...waiting for something u want sucks ... but if it wasnt I just want ANET to understand I do support them to by buying multiple copies for myself and son. : )
And I do enjoy the game very much.

Batou of Nine

Batou of Nine

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

California, USA

Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")

Mo/E

05 May 2006 at 20:22 - 314
Ugh!! My story is similar to kaya's...

9:30am, get to work.

11:00am, run errands, stop by Gamestop, only to find, the "shipment" hasnt arrived yet. UGH!

(I was told 3 times with calls during this week that Gamestop was getting a shipment of Factions CE on MAY 5, FRIDAY!!)

12:30pm. Still at work. Call Gamestop to see if they have revieved the CE. Not yet. UGH!!!!!

1:30pm The current Pacific Coast time. I dont get off work till 6:30pm. Gamestop closes at 9pm. Think they will sell out before i get there? If so, so much for preorder. Think the shipment will even arrive !?!?!? GAWD!!!

(All this trouble after them calling ME to reassure ME that they WOULD get the CE on May 5. Guaranteeing me that the shipment was on route Thursday May 4. UGH UGH UGH!!!)

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

05 May 2006 at 20:27 - 315
This may be a little early, but if a significant amount of people have to wait a month or more to get Factions (?!?), do you think Anet will offer some sort of deal where if you buy the reg edition, you get a discount off the CE?

Or, since that could be exploited, maybe another "gift" for those who merge accounts? (effectively losing $50 from the reg account).

I don't know. How many people still don't have their CE?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

05 May 2006 at 20:34 - 316
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai

I don't know. How many people still don't have their CE?
i dont but UPS tracking has it on schedule for monday delivery

JoDiamonds

JoDiamonds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

New England

05 May 2006 at 21:48 - 317
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnyperP
I really don't get you guys. People were complaining that CE was delayed and they wouldn't have access to factions for a month without buying a regular copy. That's A.Net's fault, pure and simple. Now they want make up for it by giving people who bought/buying/waiting for CE a mini dragon pet. Be happy that they're giving people that at all. They could give them nothing and be done with it. I'm not trying to rant at people, but be careful what you wish for. We have a great company that cares about the community here. They are doing innovative stuff and giving us nice suprises here and there.
1. It's not clear it's ArenaNet's fault. At the least, it is very likely NCSoft's fault (since the publisher is in charge of manufacturing and distribution).

2. It's mostly just a nice thing for people to have. ArenaNet feels very bad that some of their best fans are essentially being punished through no fault of their own, and are trying to make things up to them. It's a nice thing. Yes, some cynically say that they are "just" trying to make people feel better about the CE so people will buy them again ... but isn't that what we want? Don't we WANT a company to do nice things? Shouldn't the CE be cool? Of COURSE they want to maintain good relations with customers and fans. That's a great thing for a company to do, both for their bottom line and for just making everyone happy.

3. Yes, technically it "disrupts" the economy, in that people with a lot of money might spend them on minipets instead of something else. But whatever. Those people had a lot of money. The new items are worth whatever the market will bear, and likely have a stable value (after a few weeks, anyway). Personally, I don't think it matters. It doesn't have a real game effect, even if it makes money move around. Candy Canes are arguably a "worse" thing as far as affecting game play.

In short, ArenaNet did something nice for some of their customers. This is only a good thing for all of their customers in the long run, because it's just part of a series of nice things. It doesn't directly hurt anyone, and it's a stretch to say that it indirectly hurts anyone. Someone else getting a bonus isn't actually a penalty for you (especially as it has no in-game effect).

Ray

Ray

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Denmark

05 May 2006 at 23:47 - 318
Dragon following me around?, psshh, I'm gonna sell it.

rollntider

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

anarchy

Me/Rt

06 May 2006 at 00:27 - 319
i got my CE finally, the dances are kinda cool, the art book is paperback, the first CE had a hard back book. This did come with a mouse pad. Overall I am happy since it will come with a mini dragon. I do wish the extra back up dances worked for existing characters Oh well. I will enjoy what I have and relish them

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

06 May 2006 at 00:35 - 320
I'm definitely digging the art book. I've consider most of the money spent was for the art book, the mousepad, and the soundtrack CD. Come to think of it, feels like a real bargain .