we were talking about r/mo....but yead...r/n does alot of BS things since factions...lol
Celestial Stance
Punishing Shot
Savage Shot
Throw Dirt
Judge's Insight
Dust Trap
Dual Shot
Penetrating shot
Shoot him. Shoot more. Throwdirt often and celetial stance when his battle scars is up, also save 1 for when he tries Odds.
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so what your saying is that your mesmer can do it so your ranger should too? good logic
Extremely good, considering the basis of your nonsensical argument is that there isnt enough damage. And ranger dps > mesmer dps, generally.
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oh..i agree..beating the game in a day is possible...theres not that much mission..but capping all the new skills, and explore the map 93some percent?
canthan exploring is fairly easy, there seems to be less area. So getting to 93 takes 1-2 more days, and the capping is 1-2 more days.
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Originally Posted by Jestah
Hate to sound like a broken record but when did this become a thread about henches? Having a 10 post personal argument to prove an off topic point doesn't belong here. I can see the irony of making an off-topic post pointing out other peoples off-topic posts but seriously, you can't seem to post anything around here without having it polluted by ego driven off topic rubbish.
True.
Best thread ever on this forum btw.
01 Jun 2006 at 04:43 - 202
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oh..i agree..beating the game in a day is possible...theres not that much mission..but capping all the new skills, and explore the map 93some percent?
You forget to mention that I wrote: In 5 days!
01 Jun 2006 at 04:43 - 203
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Originally Posted by Jestah
Hate to sound like a broken record but when did this become a thread about henches? Having a 10 post personal argument to prove an off topic point doesn't belong here. I can see the irony of making an off-topic post pointing out other peoples off-topic posts but seriously, you can't seem to post anything around here without having it polluted by ego driven off topic rubbish.
it wasnt about henchies..its about how much is humanly possible in 5 days.
"You forget to mention that I wrote: In 5 days!"
yead i was under the impression that he had read your post.
"So he visibly got to the end, then you still deny he finished it? There's a time and a place to hold a point, but you've lost this one and your struggling isn't winning you any favor."
you at the timer bar won't you friend?
"No, what you said is you didn't need skill if your team was skilled. But those people are skilled, and have to have gotten it. Hence creating the circular logic that eradicates your sweeping statement."
yes...you don't need skill if your team is skill..thats true. there is no circular logic because no one ever said that all the ppl who are r9+got it by leeching. no one. your just making that agrument up by yourself. re read the post...no one has ever said that all ranked ppl leech.
"Extremely good, considering the basis of your nonsensical argument is that there isnt enough damage. And ranger dps > mesmer dps, generally."
if only dps determines if you can kill something or not. but it doesn't. and the ranger dps>mesmer dps can be agrue either way.
"Best thread ever on this forum btw."
don't know...i have seen better...but since your the internet expert, i'll take your word for it
01 Jun 2006 at 04:44 - 204
Beat the game on 1 side and you have about 60% of the map, then do the other side and you have another 30%, then head down to Amatz Basin and get 6 or 7 % not very hard, at all. You just don't know what you are talking about. 1 alliance farmed enough faction in 24 hours to take and hold Cavalon(Black Blades).
01 Jun 2006 at 04:51 - 205
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lol...this is getting interesting...
"R/mo ranger interrupts. Where is the problem? Nothing to do with being psychic, you can tell AROUND when he will begin odds and fire off some shots."
i can tell around when ppl use alot of skills..but that doesn't mean i can interupt it everytime. but the reason why rangers can't beat shiro is cuz of the dmg factor.
"Because to win, you have to know a few things. And from that you derive some basic sense. If you don't understand that, then you don't have that sense."
no...to win in an hoh team, all you need a really good team, and then just T+space. GW is a team base game....if you have enough friends that are good...you can win in hoh maps easily with just t+space. has nothing to do with common sense. heck...ppl win 1-2 map with a team full of henchies. theres alot more factor to win then just basic sense.
"Not that hard to get all that in 5 days. In that time I had finished factions with about 175 (got the rest shortly after) caps, I don't explore as much but once I did, I went from 59% (finishing game) to 90% in a day.
Raisu : watch aggro well, interrupt starbursts
Eternal : had 6 singers left, didn't break a sweat
Gyala : like was said, use smoke or clear before
Unwaking : pull away from the dragon and kill afflicted first"
raisu: 3-5 guy casting starbursts...1you...gl. someone probaly did it before.
eternal: don't now why you put that on...no one said it was hard
gyala: 1you, 3 canister, mobs comming all over the place...gl with that. you can't clear before cuz about 90% of them spawn when turtle gets there. thats what those tele are for....
unwaking: never said it was hard...don't know why you put that there.
"Nope. Just means they've played alot (a hint that maybe they have a few skills!)."
not a reason...theres a limit on how much you can complete in 5 days. thats like saying i got my phd in a month...i just study alot.
"Domonx, just because you are, in essence, incapable of achieving what could be considered the 'basic' level of PvE, does not mean others cannot."
thanks for the insult...apreciate it. can i have more pls?
"Yes, let people believe what they want. I don't see the problem with what I said cause I know its true."
wow..you got raisu with henchies. and you kill all those before the timers out?. with a ranger celestrial skill...it takes longer to kill those then normal. and the item after mission screen can be taken after you kick party and invite henchies. but i'll take your word for it...good job
and it doesn't prove the most important point...you did all that in 5 days.
Lmao @ Domonx
I've done Raisu with 4 chars so far - 3 used hench, only my monk could get a group - my Assassin, Ranger, and Warrior LFG for a min then just grabbed hench and went in.
And Shiro is so easy an unranked n00b can beat him just spamming skills. Lmao.
01 Jun 2006 at 04:54 - 206
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Beat the game on 1 side and you have about 60% of the map, then do the other side and you have another 30%, then head down to Amatz Basin and get 6 or 7 % not very hard, at all. You just don't know what you are talking about. 1 alliance farmed enough faction in 24 hours to take and hold Cavalon(Black Blades).
Exactly. In the area's after Gayla and Grove it took me about 2 hours on each map to clear them and capture all skills. Well, this looks like a lot of time but plz keep in mind that I said that I had some time off and I really played a lot. 10 hours a day maybe, I did nothing else, I had vacation and Factions was just out... 
01 Jun 2006 at 05:04 - 207
ok..now we are getting to the exact hours...which is the point btw.
um..so all the area after eternal grove and gyala will cost you 12 hours total. you have 38 hours left to clear out all the other area in the game, did all the missions, cap all the other skills.
oh yead..i forgot...you have to redo most areas inorder to get the other profession cuz you have to change your secondary.
01 Jun 2006 at 05:21 - 208
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01 Jun 2006 at 05:56 - 209
"Redo area's indeed, thats why it took 2 hours, or are you that slow when you play?"
ok...so you clear area kill everything. and then run for skills 6 more times in 2 hours. ok...now we are clear...so still 38 hours left.
and about you doing raisu...reread my post pls...i said that i take your word for it..but theres a way to fake it. what comes to mind is that you leave your group, another player have your exact order henchies except for the last one, invite you, leave, and you take the last one. not very likely...but possible...and once again to repeat myself incase you start this whole thing up again...I BELIEVE YOU, I TOOK YOUR WORD FOR IT...there happy?
"Before you think of this:
Note: when you walk out and enter again... the items won't be available anymore. GG"
what? i don't get it...but sure....i though of that.....gg
01 Jun 2006 at 06:07 - 210
The problem, domonx, is that you even consider he could be lying. That you devise complex patterns for him to try to show that the mission is completeable when you think it isn't is the funny thing.
This thread is about rank =! pve skill.
Thread conclusion:
PvE skill is harnessing of common sense and team dynamics.
Ranked players often have these.
Ranked and PvE idiots are common, however rank generally means someone has some brain.
Using rank as a means to get into a PvE group, however, is pointless.
End thread.
01 Jun 2006 at 06:51 - 211
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Originally Posted by Avarre
PvE skill is harnessing of common sense and team dynamics.
Ranked players often have these.
Ranked and PvE idiots are common, however rank generally means someone has some brain.
Using rank as a means to get into a PvE group, however, is pointless.
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How'd you figure that? I'd much prefer to take a player who could prove he "generally had some brain" than one who could prove nothing.
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Originally Posted by Avarre
This thread is about rank =! pve skill.
Inequality operator is != not =!. Being pedantic ftw.
01 Jun 2006 at 06:57 - 212
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Originally Posted by Jestah
How'd you figure that? I'd much prefer to take a player who could prove he "generally had some brain" than one who could prove nothing.
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Most PvE players have titles that show PvE capability, you know  That generally shows something... though if no-title and rank-title with same class both invite, I'd probably take the ranked one except in various circumstances ('SUPER RANK 3 LFG!!!!' wouldn't make it ). It wouldn't so much be the rank as the fact that more likely they have played longer. I'd take a cartographer over a ranked person (pve vs pvp duration of playing), and so on...
Except you. Hypocrite.
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Originally Posted by domonx
"Extremely good, considering the basis of your nonsensical argument is that there isnt enough damage. And ranger dps > mesmer dps, generally."
if only dps determines if you can kill something or not. but it doesn't. and the ranger dps>mesmer dps can be agrue either way.
Can be argued? Most mesmer kills dont fork out DIRECT damage. Rangers can shoot as they will, with plently of +damage skills and IAS stances. Ranger DPS> Mesmer DPS? Please.
01 Jun 2006 at 13:01 - 217
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Originally Posted by sedgewick
I don't bother to invite anyone that displays their Hero title in PvE.
Heh, would you prefer 60% tyrian explorer was shown than a rank title?
01 Jun 2006 at 13:22 - 218
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Heh, would you prefer 60% tyrian explorer was shown than a rank title?
If this was in a PvE Town or Mission: sure, as that would prove the person probably went through most of the Prophecies content, what - in my perception - means they know at least a bit of PvE.
For PvE I will always prefer someone diplaying a PvE title - with the possible exception of the Drunkard-Title PvE is about fighting a KI that behaves according to some more-or-less well known patterns (e.g. aggro-bubble, patrols, ...) where the behaviour of real people in PvP (especially Hero's Ascent - the only PvP thing that actually has a title) is completely different.
01 Jun 2006 at 13:29 - 219
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Originally Posted by Skuld
Heh, would you prefer 60% tyrian explorer was shown than a rank title?
I agree on this Hero is a nice title from a purely superfluous perspective. Its only an annoyance when the person actually starts to flash of their title by drawing attention to themselves in a way that is arrogant that it becomes a problem. However, not on your point about the explorer title.
01 Jun 2006 at 13:49 - 220
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Hmm why do you white out your name on the party window but leave it visible in chat ? :P
 Oops
01 Jun 2006 at 14:58 - 221
Bottom line here is, sure I like someone to have experience regardless of what part of the game they play, but I don't like jerks with an attitude in my party. Anyone who thinks they are better than others simply because of an emote or a title it not appropriate for ANY team build, pve or pvp.
I wouldnt exclude someone because of the displaying of a title they hard-earned, in fact I do prefer seeing a title of some kind, but if they flaunt, order, abuse, degrade, or display any non-teamworking attitude problems, they will soon find themselves in a lonely team of 1.
While I typically find this attitude problem more common among pvp players who think they are "leet", there are many pve folks that have this malady as well. Neither camp has the market cornered on this one.
01 Jun 2006 at 19:44 - 222
One thing I dislike about rank titles is that it carrys arcross to all charc on an account. Most PvsE titles are for single charc.
How Could you use some one rank to decide if they are any good?
Example.
Rank 3 or higher using IWAY build of internet (this person very good at following directions)
This person could have created a assn never PvsP with it, but still shows Rank 3 or higher.
01 Jun 2006 at 22:12 - 223
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Originally Posted by WickedMirrror
One thing I dislike about rank titles is that it carrys arcross to all charc on an account. Most PvsE titles are for single charc.
How Could you use some one rank to decide if they are any good?
Example.
Rank 3 or higher using IWAY build of internet (this person very good at following directions)
This person could have created a assn never PvsP with it, but still shows Rank 3 or higher.
Rank is more an indication of knowledge of game mechanics, Hero's Ascent maps and skills than anything else. These obviously transcend professions, so your point is moot. Anyway, a good player should be able to pick up just about any profession with ease.
In Hero's Ascent, or higher-level pvp in general, you want someone who understands the tactics for each map, knows what the hexes/conditions/skills being used again them do and can instinctively react to them.
Not to mention that rank pretty much HAS to be account based due to the frequency that people delete and "reroll" their pvp-only characters.
01 Jun 2006 at 22:50 - 224
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
Henchmen are better than most players, take them. They don't complain, and they even talk now so you have some company. And since the new henchmen remove hexes and conditions insanely fast, the domination henchmen interrupts 1/4 casts consistanly... I see no reason to play with humans when the AI will outperform your typical player. Even with their current bad habits (not ressing unless they have full health for example), it's a small price to pay to get into a group instantly knowing that the brunt of the task at hand depends solely on your ability. They're r3 as far as I'm concerned.
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It's a well known fact that Mage Henchman has a Tiger.
I just found out the dom henchman has a pheonix
And yes, henchman own PUGS, ive beaten every mission with them, and didnt break a sweat.
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