Dual SB Monk build Fast! Duo UW Fast!

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silent333x2
Academy Page
#61
Well I've yet to test this myself as I do not yet have factions. Everything I've been discussing has been theoretical. But with the cold fires I believe they will do enough damage to you if your only wearing your armor 30 scalp, armor 15 sandles and armor 15 pants for the energy regen and bonus to protection. Also with frenzy on it should easily recieve enough damage for holy wrath to deal back enough damage to kill them. Heal signet may also help in just 2 seconds of having -40 armor. Just a thought.
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slimreb
Academy Page
#62
Quote: Originally Posted by Zfactor
SKILLS
Spirit Bond
Spell Breaker {E}
Protective Spirit
Bonetti’s Defense or Frenzy if preferred
Elemental Resistance
Blessed Aura
Vital Blessing
Essence Bond

Note:
I don’t know why but I feel like I am missing something. I am typing this out from memory as I don’t really prefer the dual monk and even though I did full smite runs with it I went back to 55 and SS/SV I think you forgot to subout either/or for Bonetti's/Frenzy and Elemental Resistance. As Bonetti's/Frenzy is Warrior and Elemental Resistance is Mesmer. Not try to sound mean or anything just making an observation.

But a Guildie and I used a slightly modified version of this build and cleared the Chaos Plains with it. Also for kicks we brought a SS necro guildie with us and we clear the Chaos Plains, Twin-Serpent Mountain, and Spawning Pools. Though we did not take any quests. We were just clearing the creatures there.
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Zfactor
Frost Gate Guardian
#63
Can't believe i didn't notice that lol. I started writing that thing then I had to go do something else and I came back and started editing it. It is hard for me to recall the build that I used, hopefully it will come back to me, though I think it is probably covered by now with all the input. Anyway good catch, since my build is now like half a build I think I will take it down until I can acutally remember it
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sleepy samurai
Lion's Arch Merchant
#64
Ok, how do you maintain Holy Wrath with -10 energy each hit?

I understand how blessed sig with Mantra of Inscriptions can work but 10 energy? Three enchantments equals 9 energy with sig. Does that mean your energy is always at 0 and you do damage when sig is cast?
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slimreb
Academy Page
#65
Quote: Originally Posted by sleepy samurai
Ok, how do you maintain Holy Wrath with -10 energy each hit?

I understand how blessed sig with Mantra of Inscriptions can work but 10 energy? Three enchantments equals 9 energy with sig. Does that mean your energy is always at 0 and you do damage when sig is cast? The way it all works is like this. Everytime the enchanted ally get hits it damages the foe who hit them. Then it takes 10 energy from you. If you only have 4 enchantments on you can still maintain all the enchantments but if you have more than 4 it will drop them until you are at 3 enchantments (that is my experience with it anyways).

This happens as the skill does not say that if you do not have the 10 energy that it will end, so you can maintain it. During battle you are at 0 energy the whole time the tank is getting hit. It is pointless to use Blessed Signet for energy during battle as it is unlikely to get a spell off in the time it takes before the energy is gone do to Holy Wrath. I have had a lot of success in using Blessed to get energy in battle and use Mantra of Inscriptions as that is a stance and is instantly activated.
Ietwat
Ietwat
Academy Page
#66
Quote: Originally Posted by slimreb
I think you forgot to subout either/or for Bonetti's/Frenzy and Elemental Resistance. As Bonetti's/Frenzy is Warrior and Elemental Resistance is Mesmer. Not try to sound mean or anything just making an observation.

But a Guildie and I used a slightly modified version of this build and cleared the Chaos Plains with it. Also for kicks we brought a SS necro guildie with us and we clear the Chaos Plains, Twin-Serpent Mountain, and Spawning Pools. Though we did not take any quests. We were just clearing the creatures there. Gratz on making it zo far , i would try this wekkend but it wasn't possible due to the schoolwork my brother had to do . I think this build is capable of solo-ing quite a part of UW and most of the quests .
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sleepy samurai
Lion's Arch Merchant
#67
A bug. Hope anet does not squash it too soon.

Thanks slimreb.
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slimreb
Academy Page
#68
I do not believe it is a bug for Holy Wrath. The skill has always worked like this. If you watch the Life Pods and Blessed Griffins when they use Holy Wrath it functions the same way.

Thanks Ietwat this was a lot of fun do use in the UW though a bit boring for the smite monk going through the Twin-Serpent Mountains as to always stay outside of the Nature's Renewal to keep the enchantments on the tank. When it was the two other guildies and myself down there we came really close to clearing the Bone Pits but we got caught by some random patrol that killed me and the SS. So the tank had no rez and thus game over.

We were planning on clearing all the creatures then going back and take a quest at a time from the front in order to see if there was any quests this build could not handle. Maybe this weekend we will try again and find out if there is. Once I know I will post here the results.
Exile Of Heaven
Exile Of Heaven
Lion's Arch Merchant
#69
Well this weekend me and my brother are going 2 make a party for UW 2 clear as much as possible

At last ive got the time!
Koning
Koning
Wilds Pathfinder
#70
yeah, I took ele resistance for grasping darknesses now and they hit for 60+ now so no problems anymore! I like this cause i can aggro a whole room on me without dying

only thing that gave me trouble were the coldfires, they dont hit for 60+ each time so i had to spam skill but i was ok after. same for terrorwebs.

it really is alot faster than with a ss against smites/aatxes, but i think 3 man runs with ss will be the fastest. (to clear uw)

how long does a smite run with dual monks u guys take on average?
Exile Of Heaven
Exile Of Heaven
Lion's Arch Merchant
#71
around 10 - 15 mins for a smite run! its insanly fast!
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jsockel
Pre-Searing Cadet
#72
Are you guys done with school yet so you can make a video? Pretty please?
Koning
Koning
Wilds Pathfinder
#73
I can now easily complete smite runs and aggro whole room(s) at once. Only thing I don't like is that I need to spend 1 skill slot for defeating grasping darknesses (ele resistance), but I guess its really needed otherwise u cannot defeat those guys effieciently....anyone has other tips to work around these guys?
Exile Of Heaven
Exile Of Heaven
Lion's Arch Merchant
#74
Nope, Frenzy still is not better then Ele resistance, it last so much longer, and it has always over 60 with Frenzy on u could still get below 60 becuz of Flurry that they use
Chaos Herald
Chaos Herald
Ascalonian Squire
#75
I tried this the last time america had favor, and it works amazing. It is actually possible with a E/Mo and a W/Mo. The E/Mo tanks and the W/Mo maintains enchants.
Exile Of Heaven
Exile Of Heaven
Lion's Arch Merchant
#76
Indeed, it is possible with all proffesions: but..... some have a trick 2 handle better.

Well................... It's Weekend: i made teh video with my brother

I uploaded it, and it is being verified. When its online i post the LINK!
Koning
Koning
Wilds Pathfinder
#77
wohaa i got dazed today with a skullcrack from grasping darknesses and ofcourse died
guess i ask my necro (if i go with 1) to put sv on me when i aggro whole rooms with those guys...

And yeeeee video is coming!
Ietwat
Ietwat
Academy Page
#78
This afternoon when we tryed to put it on video, we made it Smite run that was not boring , We aggro-ed as much as we can, even coldfires(we couldn't kill thme but it doesnt matter) we cleared the whole ice wastes under 10 minutes. The most we ever tanked was about 30 smites and 6 coldfires .We even got 2 ecto's and 2 gold's to drop , not too mention any chests up there.

This build is far able to overwhelm the current 55/ss-sv'ers build in speed and flexibility. iI im right u should be able to clear almost more then 90% of UW and do many quests(except Unwanted Quests, cuz we cant kill the Keeper of Souls fast enough be4 Spellbreaker runs out and he casts Lingeruing Curse)
maybe a solution for this is Spell Shield instead of Spellbreaker, but that would be more ridiculous and not to mention much more dangers

I rlly hopes this becomes the new standard for UW Smite runs, my brother is almost at his set of FoW armor, and we only invented this build 3 months ago .

Ill hope u all be happy with the video my brother is putting up, were not good at video-editing and such. We tryed to make the best of it.

Any comments or questions, contact me in-game at: Ietwat The Penguin, or just ad me to ure friendslist and see when im on.

For the one's who rlly want to see a run we are on European Servers and were both not able to switch anymore .

We also do spider runs for 15k when we have a decent tank and nuker available at our guild, cuz this build is not able to take on the Wrathfull Spirits (Frenzy just wont double IW's damage, wich is quite strange, Anet fix this plz )
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Tasty
Pre-Searing Cadet
#79
Just to say, i tried this with some guildies and it works great, apart from the fact that we were having some probs with the grasping darkness, although they seemed to be doing enough damage anywa, curious lol.

Well, were gonna have a bash at taking the grasping darkness and aatxes at the same time, and hopefully well be able to complete this as well

thanks for the build, it does beat 55/ss in my opinion, although its easier to find a partner for that still :P

looking forward to the video

Tasty
ratchet
ratchet
Banned
#80
Many, many thanks mate!! This build has given me the power to go back in UW farming again! TY