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Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

14 May 2006 at 05:03 - 81

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Originally Posted by Nevin

Using Factions as an example: Will the Assassin and Ritualist carry on into Chapters 3-8 getting the basic 6 new armor sets, new skills, and new weapons in each one? Or will they only be frozen in Chapter 2 and PvP while the 6 core professions contiously move on through out Chapters 3-8.

My understanding is no new skills in EVERY chapter for chapter spec. chars, but weapons and armor will probably be supported...

Here's a hint of the new classes from 1up:

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Minutes before the doors slammed at E3, the undefeated Last Pride PvP guild (and our 1UP ninjas) were treated to a first look at the next Guild Wars expansion. Not Factions, but the as-yet-untitled expansion to follow. We got an early peek at the new setting, creatures, and concept sketches of new professions.
Where the original game had a pseudo-medieval European environment and Factions features a more Asian setting, the new expansion will take place in a North African-themed world. The architecture and locations look inspired by Tunesia, Morocco, and the savannah, and the theme music composed for the presentation had a very Marakesh sound to it.

Among the new creatures and NPCs we saw dervish-like robed and masked desert people, a bunch of monkeys riding some kind of tusked hippo, and a giant flatworm. Yeah, we want to squash that.

There were only two sketches of the new professions shown, one being a white robed woman wielding a wicked looking double bladed staff, and an unarmed bald monk-like man, possibly a bare-knuckle combat class.

The expansion hasn't been officially announced yet, but expect something as soon as the Factions hype cools off a little. Yeah, NC is fast with these things. They have two gangs of developers tag teaming expansions. In fact, now that Factions is done that crew is already working on the fourth one. That makes them a freaking MMO machine gun.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3150806

Thom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2005

14 May 2006 at 05:46 - 82

One nice thing about Anet is that an overload of a single suggestion has proven a good predictor of future classes. Assassins and ritualists were heavily suggested mostly under ninja and druid/shape shifter threads.

The next obvious two would be a bard and a polearm class by this standard. Those would be 3-4 on the suggested list. I'd have a bards as ranger/mesmer/monk hybrids and spearsman as Warrior/monks.

Blind Rage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

New Zealand

Inyurface Gaming [IYF]

14 May 2006 at 05:59 - 83

errm.... am i the only one who remembers a-net announcing that the next chapter wouldnt have any new classes?

Raziel665

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

N/Mo

14 May 2006 at 06:14 - 84

Double bladed staff? Would that be one of those 2 handed weapons with 2 blades on each side of the staff that you spin around a lot? Dont know its name, but its used in the Onimusha series too. Those things are sexy.

rollntider

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

anarchy

Me/Rt

14 May 2006 at 07:01 - 85

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind Rage

errm.... am i the only one who remembers a-net announcing that the next chapter wouldnt have any new classes?

they said not every chapter will have new classes. They didnt say chapter 3 would or would not.

I think they just need to add 1 new per expansion/chapter (whatever people want to call them) Then they can get the Rit/As up to the skill count as the core. I am finding myself only wanting to play my warrior then my necro then my monk. My ranger just sits there in hopes of getting a new pet, without losing the one we already have.
My assasin is stuck at level 12, and my ritualist hasnt even opened the storage yet (which I need to do.) I have to much to do with my other classes that I dont have time for 2 per chapter. Plus the grinding for faction....

False Question

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

We Cause Seizures

W/Mo

14 May 2006 at 14:02 - 86

But jeeze wat kind of new proffesions can they make? just think about it. i know u made a suggestion like a spear thrower but dont we have a ranger for that. The shaman is a good guess do.

Plushie Penguin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

That plushie penguin on a shelf in your bed room

Rt/E

14 May 2006 at 20:29 - 87

hm..... darth maul style......
if that no weapons guy comes out, the class might have some null damage skills or a primary only -damage% kind of thing, a shaman... so we're renaming the ritualists now

here I was hoping for a place that was baised in the air, since I can do a nuckle punch with the tengu without them trying to kill me...

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

14 May 2006 at 23:45 - 88

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom

One nice thing about Anet is that an overload of a single suggestion has proven a good predictor of future classes. Assassins and ritualists were heavily suggested mostly under ninja and druid/shape shifter threads.

The next obvious two would be a bard and a polearm class by this standard. Those would be 3-4 on the suggested list. I'd have a bards as ranger/mesmer/monk hybrids and spearsman as Warrior/monks.

I've been trying to guess what a bare-fisted and bladed staff character could signify, but bard was not what I was thinking!

Maybe the bare-fisted guy is a shapeshifter? Problem is, based on this very limited info, it sounds like two melee classes - and I'm sure that's not correct.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

15 May 2006 at 00:55 - 89

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordakai

bladed staff character could signify, but bard was not what I was thinking!

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just to stir the pot a bit another reviewer who saw it described the staff as having 2 *fetishes* instead of blades

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Finally, there were images of two of the new classes. Both were women wearing silky, light-colored I Dream of Jeannie-type outfits, one carrying a staff with fetishes on it, the other wearing a veil.

bart

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

15 May 2006 at 01:06 - 90

going back to the topic of a new chapter every 6 months... whats the difference between paying monthly subscription fees for a huge game with huge content (tempted to replace "huge" with "better")(you know what game i'm talking about) and paying for a new chapter every 6 months? the reason i bought this game was because i don't have to pay monthly fees. Now they expect us to buy a new chapter every 6 months? boy they're really milking the cow <--us... i can tell u by the time we reach ch 4, our nipples will be hurting like hell

shadowduck

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

OMG

Mo/Me

15 May 2006 at 02:09 - 91

Quote:

Originally Posted by bart

going back to the topic of a new chapter every 6 months... whats the difference between paying monthly subscription fees for a huge game with huge content (tempted to replace "huge" with "better")(you know what game i'm talking about) and paying for a new chapter every 6 months? the reason i bought this game was because i don't have to pay monthly fees. Now they expect us to buy a new chapter every 6 months? boy they're really milking the cow <--us... i can tell u by the time we reach ch 4, our nipples will be hurting like hell

Well, the idea is you don't HAVE to buy the chapters to continue playing the game. However, lets assume you buy all chapters, consider the following to play:

WoW- $49 (cost of the game itself)+ $180 (12 months of subscription fees)= $229/first year + $180/years 2+ (Add $40 if you want to buy the expansion due this year)
Asheron's Call- Game- $29 + $156 (one year game play)= $185/year 1, $156/years 2+
Guild Wars: $100/year

Obviously, as you see GW is vastly cheaper than other games in the genre. I much perfer this method.

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

15 May 2006 at 02:14 - 92

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowduck

Well, the idea is you don't HAVE to buy the chapters to continue playing the game. However, lets assume you buy all chapters, consider the following to play:

WoW- $49 (cost of the game itself)+ $180 (12 months of subscription fees)= $229/first year + $180/years 2+ (Add $40 if you want to buy the expansion due this year)
Asheron's Call- Game- $29 + $156 (one year game play)= $185/year 1, $156/years 2+
Guild Wars: $100/year

Obviously, as you see GW is vastly cheaper than other games in the genre. I much perfer this method.

Here Here!

And, plus, how many other games have the Game Creators and "Inside People" such as the lovely Gaile Gray who congas with you? Talk to you? Answer your questions and listen to our suggestions?

Few.

Nasenbluten

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

VA BABY

Morbid Anihillation

R/Me

15 May 2006 at 03:21 - 93

I want a monkey pet

Denny Pace

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Good Eye Sniper [GeS]

15 May 2006 at 11:28 - 94

Six months, nine months, 12 months.... I'm not really concerned with the amount of time between campaigns. I'm much more concerned that new campaigns are actually ready for mass gameplay when they come out. Factions lag and bugs continue to be more than a little annoying at this point in time, despite the large number of fixes offered by Anet. It was *not* production ready when it was released. I would hate to see that with future campaigns.

If Anet can get a relatively bug and lag-free product out every six months (very aggressive schedule, doesn't allow much time for testing and fixing), great. Otherwise, it would be better for everyone if they could take the attitude 'it'll be released when it's done', and not get hung up on the pre-announced 'schedule'.

Venomios

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Guilds are like underwear. Change often or it gets stale fast.

N/Mo

15 May 2006 at 11:58 - 95

I hope they have a chapter in the mists itself... just imagine... the afterlife itself is threatened! Henchies could be the gods themselves! That would so rock! To bad Factions is the last GW game I'm buying due to an unsatisfactory resolution by Gaile herself concerning the Collector's Edition fiasco. /sigh

I'll use the $100 a year I'll save to buy a PS3 in 2010! LOL

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

15 May 2006 at 12:29 - 96

I've already decided they're going to have to do something that is threatening one of the Gods we currently know, or perhaps a previous God that was knocked down *coughformergodofdeathcough* that is wanting power again.

But, I think it's going to be more likely every 9 months to a year we get new standalones/expansions simply because they will want to perfect the previous chapter as best they can before they move on, hopefully not wanting to take on two messes in such a short time. Not that I'm saying Cantha/Chapter 3 is a mess, I just mean the bugs/lag/errors/etc.etc.

Photeus

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Akkadians (AkX)

E/Me

15 May 2006 at 12:56 - 97

Just considering it today, I think an archipelago, instead of a continent would be a nice swing of direction. My ideas of it are these:

Two warring Professions: Perhaps there are two professions that simply are not meant to get along with one another and chosing one of these characters as a primary places you into a specific quest line. With the base six you can go either way, but with the new two classes, you have to be one or the other. This would not flow into ordinary pvp (except where the battlelines are drawn, such as in Factions).

The new classes:
(All prototypes and possibilities that I personally like the idea of. Names of classes and actual abilities can change)

+ Daemons (Search for posting by me about this class idea)
+ Spearmen (I'm sure people have posted about it or something like it before. Things such as throwing a spear could also have some appeal)
+ Pirates (I know it was a joke of an idea at first, but considering what theme I'm after, it's a great idea)

Daemon might be out since it's an idea for a caster, and the game could use more diversity in melee classes (However, not too much since there are an incredible ammount of counters to melee)

Ship Warfare:

Maybe some of us aren't crazy about the Navy and all that...but wouldn't it be great to steer one ship, toward another, your teammates firing magical cannons at the other while you steer until you all have A) sunk the other ship or B) gotten close enough to board it

This could add many possibilities to PvP. For example, the area around the Archipelago could be a 'Ship Warfare' area, where player groups in their guild funded ships, set sail to encounter other groups at sea. Could be made random selection or an 'encounter' system (where you could accept combat or pay somehow to 'get away'). Again, I don't need to go into it, but it'd be interesting and something very new to the game.

Just some ideas I had lately.

Nickelocene

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

15 May 2006 at 16:25 - 98

Quote:

Originally Posted by False Question

But jeeze wat kind of new proffesions can they make? just think about it. i know u made a suggestion like a spear thrower but dont we have a ranger for that. The shaman is a good guess do.

Just like Diablo , we had Ranger, then we also had Amazon. Amazon is more between Ranger and Warior.
When the Faction was in development, we were hoping to have someone like a Druid. Maybe the call will be answered this time.
But it's getting more and more like Diablo now. Does the Kurast Baazar ring a bell?

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

15 May 2006 at 18:28 - 99

Brawler Monk...

*wets himself*

Ehrenia

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Melted Chocolate Bunnies [EaT]

16 May 2006 at 15:41 - 100

i highly doubt there will be 2 new professions with each release. we were lucky to get 2 with factions.

Kylie Minon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Argentina

Acolitos del Tango [AR]

N/Me

16 May 2006 at 16:47 - 101

What do you think about this? We know that "hell broke loose" on ToPK

PS: Sorry the big image

zerohaste

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

16 May 2006 at 17:33 - 102

That's not GW3, that's from the PC game Hellgate London.

Kylie Minon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Argentina

Acolitos del Tango [AR]

N/Me

16 May 2006 at 19:54 - 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerohaste

That's not GW3, that's from the PC game Hellgate London.

I know... but since we have a "dark rift" open on ToPK a class like this would fit IMO.

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

16 May 2006 at 20:26 - 104

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kylie Minon

I know... but since we have a "dark rift" open on ToPK a class like this would fit IMO.

We already have a newly realsed "Dark" spellcaster, which is of course the Ritaulist who can balance.

Next spellcaster will be something different, but not Darkness again.

vail darkblade

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

grey knights of the lost king

E/Me

16 May 2006 at 21:41 - 105

sounds good , but i wonder what the new guild halls will be like cos the fractions ones where not so good

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

17 May 2006 at 02:14 - 106

I'm thinking Bard.. though like assasin when you click them in a sequence also got me thinking of adding Alchemist as a profession to just change up game play style a little (which is good for us who have play a lot.) I was thinking your skills could be different types of potions and and clicking them in a certain sequence of three would cast some sort of effect (dmg, heal, rez whatever) ... that wouldn't need to call it alchemist some other potions type thing would be cool to fit the theme... anyway i like my idea if no one else does.

Plushie Penguin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

That plushie penguin on a shelf in your bed room

Rt/E

17 May 2006 at 03:03 - 107

um, this might be a bit late but
1 year of AO is about 95 dollars[or 98] and you don't have to buy the installa and stuff

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

17 May 2006 at 03:24 - 108

Hmm, North Africa... Hopefully we get some of the greek, roman, italian, and middle eastern influences...

EDIT: Please keep this on topic. -Swampgirl

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

17 May 2006 at 10:12 - 109

hard for me to get excited about a new chapter when I'm dealing with horrendous town lag and this insane faction farming / elite mission situation / stupid titles that I'm chasing that are just ways to distract me from the lack of new content
in short I don't like the direction things are heading

Shadow Dragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Harrismith, South Africa

[SAGA]

W/Mo

17 May 2006 at 11:00 - 110

no guns. man it'll make gw another wow clone

Hungryarmadillo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Doing Buisness As [dOOb]

W/R

17 May 2006 at 17:20 - 111

Personally, North Africa egyptian theme sounds cool. Think of the armor. lol. But, didnt unreal tournamant go there? anyway...

I would much rather see some post game missions added to cantha and Tyria, not the lameo titan quests thats inpossible to party for,plus there is no real point in doing them other than to complete everything.I mean add an elite armor quest for each class or and elite ultimate weapon for each class,or one elite skill you can design yourself from some preset parameters, something more for 20's than UW, FOW, and the elite missions in cantha. Bring a big charr quest to cantha, or undead, bring the plauge to tyria. There needs to be more content for level 20's that have completed the games. Some kind of epic quest to earn a special title, or maybe a way to get a few more attribute points. I have 2 lvl 20 characters and 2 that are almost. My point i guess is. I have made tryia 20's and cantha 20's . beating cantha takes all of about 2 days. Then you can go through half of tryia, but really who wants to do that all over again? I have beaten every missions in both games an average of 3-4 times, helping guildies through, i am sure most of you have too. I wanna see more post gfame content and areas only level 20's can access. Maybe some hidden factions for secret societies or something.
Please for the love of pete, put an in game auction. lol. I would pay 20 bucks a year to be able to post in an auction, let ppl buy free from it, I dont care what it takes. lol....

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

29 May 2006 at 21:48 - 112

not lookin forward to ch3, since i think ch2 was terribly rushed....

anyways wut bout grouping?

i remember in prophecies, it wasnt hard to find a group...
(now it is, a lot of ppl seem to get runners nowadays)
and in factions, henchies seem the way to go

i kno theres a lot of ppl who play wit henchies more than half of the time...
pugs seem active mostly in farming spots

even a lot of faction storyline missions r fairly empty
i thought...its a new game, ppl will catch on...
but nope, too busy wit ff

in places like jade quarry/fort aspenwood...those places r completely empty
takes maybe 5-10mins to enter @ aspenwood....
quarry--impossible to enter

and guild groups?...well, kurzick & luxon---ch.3 will kill those alliances
i think that the alliances that currently own outposts (especially cavalon/house) r gonna be forced to not playing ch.3 and kicking those members that do want to, or migrate to ch.3 alltogether

unless maybe if kurzick and luxon have presence in ch.3?
or r they commin out wit a new alliance?

and unless gw takes over the world,
i dun see how theres gonna be nuff players to populate 3 or 4 worlds at once?

i kno, i kno!!! make the worlds smaller!!!
prophecies was huge...cantha was small...
ch.3 will be even smaller, or face the trouble of bein underpopulated

okie okie, im overexagerating, but by ch5, i can definately see this happening

*to the sims comment*
anyone kno sales stats of prophecies vs factions?
i dun think factions sold more than prophecies did? even if really is still too early to say

the sims can release new titles every 5mins cus they have the big sales to back it up...
while gw is selling good, its not nearly as close to the sims

i kno factions brought in a lot of new players...
but how many more new players can ch.3 possibly bring in?
and ch.4?

The truth itself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

First Degree

Mo/

30 May 2006 at 00:45 - 113

I Don't see how you see more devourers in SAND, i see gaint scorpions and mummies. I also see underground exploration of pyramids.

Plot is something a faroa being kidnapped or something.

Heh, i wonder what the new classes would be though.
My guess is some form of transformation. Druid.

Guild Wars is like a present from a creative mastermind, you will never know what to expect, allthough i hope for a more PvP-based story.

dr_james2k

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

The Guild of Kings

Me/E

30 May 2006 at 07:23 - 114

North African theme could mean some sort of witch doctor proffesion which would be cool, could used metamorphesis and stuff. Also pirates spring to mind again.

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

30 May 2006 at 12:03 - 115

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr_james2k

North African theme could mean some sort of witch doctor proffesion which would be cool, could used metamorphesis and stuff. Also pirates spring to mind again.

Well, think about that this way - Ritualists arent' exactly "Asian" are they? Sure there where Priests to the Asian Deities, but there wasn't exactly (to our knowledge at least...) any Ritualists.

It's a no holds gamble for the next Spellcaster and Melee class.

noxrage

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

30 May 2006 at 16:35 - 116

found some images can can cfm from what chapters these are from i never seen them so i belive might be chater 3

Rivalor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/Mo

30 May 2006 at 20:42 - 117

Just wondering if I am the only one who is really excited about the prospects of Ch 3 which seems to be taking place in Africa. I was not so quick to be excited about the Factions area theme but this is a fun game none the less so I really don't mind at all. I am really excited about the possibility of Ch 3 having a good portion taking place in Egypt (an egypt inspired area).

I know that it can be anything they want but I am hoping for things like pyramids, mummies, khopeshes (sp?), pharoahs, a "Nile" river, scarab beetles, etc.

I think there is so much that can be done with that region but personally would like a large part of it to be ancient egypt inspired.

I hoped to make this a post that people can state what they would really like to see go on with the Africa continent inspired chapter. Don't mean to feed the hype machine but I am not so clear on the angle of the GW community's feelings on what they want with GW content. I have played in MMOs where it is really clear.

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

30 May 2006 at 21:00 - 118

not to be a mean person but Egypt is in fact in the continent of Africa so yes, i do indeed think the game will have and African Style to it...

I hope the whole game is somewhat like a desert because the game can go a far way like that and its just downright cool!

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

30 May 2006 at 21:04 - 119

There is a Chapter 3 thread already discussing the same thing.

Rivalor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/Mo

30 May 2006 at 21:16 - 120

Yep, I know that Egypt is on that continent. I was wondering more how much would be dedicated to Egypt and how much to Africa (read as Africa theme other than ancient Egypt).

They could definitely do an Africa based chapter and then a total Chapter dedicated to an ancient Egypt theme.