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People say that Vizunah Local should be accessible to Tyrian chars after completing Vizunah Foreign. I have tried but the entrance is closed. Can anyone confirm that this is possible, and if yes, how?
Access to Vizunah Local for Tyrian chars
mtm
Arkantos
If your from tyira you get foreign, if your from cantha you get local. Thats it thats all. 
Ate of DK
Not true.
A guildie of mine joined with his cantha character (assassin) in the foreign.
He also played the mission with us.
How he got in with us?
We were with a guildteam and a few had tyrian characters that needed to do the primairy quest. Somehow he just teleported inside with us after we spoke with the guard that lets you enter foreign (vizunah).
We tried it the other way around with tyrian chars and a few cantha chars to enter the home (vizunah) but it didn't work. Then only the Canthan characters were teleported. The rest was left behind.
A guildie of mine joined with his cantha character (assassin) in the foreign.
He also played the mission with us.
How he got in with us?
We were with a guildteam and a few had tyrian characters that needed to do the primairy quest. Somehow he just teleported inside with us after we spoke with the guard that lets you enter foreign (vizunah).
We tried it the other way around with tyrian chars and a few cantha chars to enter the home (vizunah) but it didn't work. Then only the Canthan characters were teleported. The rest was left behind.
dfscott
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Originally Posted by Ate of DK
Not true.
A guildie of mine joined with his cantha character (assassin) in the foreign.
He also played the mission with us. One of my guildies had this happen as well. It's very convenient for assassins since one of the Assassin elites (as well as some nice green daggers) are near the exit of the Foreign Quarter.
A guildie of mine joined with his cantha character (assassin) in the foreign.
He also played the mission with us. One of my guildies had this happen as well. It's very convenient for assassins since one of the Assassin elites (as well as some nice green daggers) are near the exit of the Foreign Quarter.
Gli
After completing the Nahpui Quarter mission, both Vizunah gates will open for a character, meaning Canthans can get to the foreign quarter and Tyrians can enter the local one.
Tried and true.
(By myself and some guildies by checking the gates just before and just after completing Nahpui Quarter.)
Tried and true.
(By myself and some guildies by checking the gates just before and just after completing Nahpui Quarter.)
Raptox
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Originally Posted by Gli
After completing the Nahpui Quarter mission, both Vizunah gates will open for a character, meaning Canthans can get to the foreign quarter and Tyrians can enter the local one.
Tried and true.
(By myself and some guildies by checking the gates just before and just after completing Nahpui Quarter.) I'll give this a go when I get home. However, I tried it a few nights ago after I had finished NQ, and it was a no-go.
On the other hand, I was a Tyrian in a party with Canthans who had not yet finished Mayhem in the Market. Thus, that might have screwed everything up.
Tried and true.
(By myself and some guildies by checking the gates just before and just after completing Nahpui Quarter.) I'll give this a go when I get home. However, I tried it a few nights ago after I had finished NQ, and it was a no-go.
On the other hand, I was a Tyrian in a party with Canthans who had not yet finished Mayhem in the Market. Thus, that might have screwed everything up.
mtm
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Originally Posted by Gli
Tried and true.
(By myself and some guildies by checking the gates just before and just after completing Nahpui Quarter.) This is what happens when I try to access Vizunah Local with my Tyrian Warrior. You can see on the map that Vizunah Foreign is completed. So what you're saying is not true.
If anyone knows of a way to access please post, but please don't misinform people. I would like to know how you and your guildies gained access. Are you able to map travel to the "wrong" Vizunah? Can you enter the mission? Can you provide a screenshot of your map showing both map locations opened?
Bak Chi Jai
mtm
Bak it would help more if you'd tell us how were you able to access, since you went into the trouble of uploading the pic and all, and tell us if you can use the map area normally.
Bak Chi Jai
The gate was open, I just walked in. I didn't try until I had already finished the last mission though.
Raptox
mtm, have you finished Naphui Quarter? Gli specifically stated that you have to finish NQ, not VSquare. Just checking, here.
Edit: never mind, I managed to finally load all of your map, and I see you did finish NQ and TT. Now I'm supremely puzzled, and I'm in the same boat as you. What the heck is going on here?
Edit: never mind, I managed to finally load all of your map, and I see you did finish NQ and TT. Now I'm supremely puzzled, and I'm in the same boat as you. What the heck is going on here?
Gli
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Originally Posted by mtm
This is what happens when I try to access Vizunah Local with my Tyrian Warrior. You can see on the map that Vizunah Foreign is completed. So what you're saying is not true.
If anyone knows of a way to access please post, but please don't misinform people. I would like to know how you and your guildies gained access. Are you able to map travel to the "wrong" Vizunah? Can you enter the mission? Can you provide a screenshot of your map showing both map locations opened? Well... extremely weird. We checked what I posted earlier because we picked it up as a rumor. This is what we did, with 4 people, some hailing from Tyria, some from Cantha.
- Travel from the Marketplace to the entrance of Vizunah Local. We ran into a locked gate with a guard.
- Disband and reform our party at Nahpui Quarter, enter and complete the mission.
- Map travel with the entire party back to the Marketplace and make our way back to Vizunah Local. The gate was open and there wasn't a guard.
- Walk inside Vizunah Local, map travel to Kaineng Center, fight our way past the Jade Brotherhood to the Vizunah Foreign entrance. The gate was open as well.
- No one accepted or completed any quests during all this time and we had the same party leader all the time.
So, either there's no rhyme or reason to it or there's another prerequisite for the gates to open that we all met coincidentally, but completing Nahpui Quarter was the only thing we did between the gates being opened and closed. We never map travelled into either Vizunah Local or Vizunah Foreign.
I'll post a screenshot when I get home and into the game.
If anyone knows of a way to access please post, but please don't misinform people. I would like to know how you and your guildies gained access. Are you able to map travel to the "wrong" Vizunah? Can you enter the mission? Can you provide a screenshot of your map showing both map locations opened? Well... extremely weird. We checked what I posted earlier because we picked it up as a rumor. This is what we did, with 4 people, some hailing from Tyria, some from Cantha.
- Travel from the Marketplace to the entrance of Vizunah Local. We ran into a locked gate with a guard.
- Disband and reform our party at Nahpui Quarter, enter and complete the mission.
- Map travel with the entire party back to the Marketplace and make our way back to Vizunah Local. The gate was open and there wasn't a guard.
- Walk inside Vizunah Local, map travel to Kaineng Center, fight our way past the Jade Brotherhood to the Vizunah Foreign entrance. The gate was open as well.
- No one accepted or completed any quests during all this time and we had the same party leader all the time.
So, either there's no rhyme or reason to it or there's another prerequisite for the gates to open that we all met coincidentally, but completing Nahpui Quarter was the only thing we did between the gates being opened and closed. We never map travelled into either Vizunah Local or Vizunah Foreign.
I'll post a screenshot when I get home and into the game.
Raptox
Gli, thanks for the info. I have two more questions:
1. When you did this part, was your party leader Tyrian or Canthan: "Map travel with the entire party back to the Marketplace and make our way back to Vizunah Local. The gate was open and there wasn't a guard."
2. Same question, just for this part: "map travel to Kaineng Center, fight our way past the Jade Brotherhood to the Vizunah Foreign entrance. The gate was open as well."
I'm not saying your party leader's birthplace *should* have anything to do with it. I'm wondering whether or not it just *does.*
I'm loading up now and I'm going to fight there, alone, with hench. I'm Tyrian, so I'll let you know what happens.
RESULTS: No dice. Guard is there, gate is up, and he won't let me in. When one of my guildies comes on who is Canthan and has completed NQ, I'll ask him to be party leader and I'll try again.
I have a third question: To those who have been to both parts, when did you accomplish this? Before or after the latest round of updates? Maybe this was an undocumented bug fix.
EDIT 3: Oh balls, the hench in Marketplace aren't Wen No Suh. What do you think about this?
1. When you did this part, was your party leader Tyrian or Canthan: "Map travel with the entire party back to the Marketplace and make our way back to Vizunah Local. The gate was open and there wasn't a guard."
2. Same question, just for this part: "map travel to Kaineng Center, fight our way past the Jade Brotherhood to the Vizunah Foreign entrance. The gate was open as well."
I'm not saying your party leader's birthplace *should* have anything to do with it. I'm wondering whether or not it just *does.*
I'm loading up now and I'm going to fight there, alone, with hench. I'm Tyrian, so I'll let you know what happens.
RESULTS: No dice. Guard is there, gate is up, and he won't let me in. When one of my guildies comes on who is Canthan and has completed NQ, I'll ask him to be party leader and I'll try again.
I have a third question: To those who have been to both parts, when did you accomplish this? Before or after the latest round of updates? Maybe this was an undocumented bug fix.
EDIT 3: Oh balls, the hench in Marketplace aren't Wen No Suh. What do you think about this?
Saupht
I just tried going to the local Vizunah with henchies, my character being Tyrian, and having already done all the missions and finished the game. It didn't work, so i guess, we somehow have to do a Naphui first. If someone wouldn't mind doing it with henchies (i did it last time, but i don't have the time right now to do it again...).
If nobody try, i'll do it tomorrow and tell you.
If nobody try, i'll do it tomorrow and tell you.
Savio
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EDIT 3: Oh balls, the hench in Marketplace aren't Wen No Suh. What do you think about this?
Henchmen are at the level of completion that all of your party members have completed, as far as I know; I can get into the Sunjiang District construct area with henchies from Zin Ku at least.
Raptox
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Originally Posted by Savio
Henchmen are at the level of completion that all of your party members have completed, as far as I know; I can get into the Sunjiang District construct area with henchies from Zin Ku at least.
Hm. That would make more sense. I mean, if I had any idea what the significance was. 
I haven't even finished Tahnnaki yet.
Well, I got someone to help me get into the Undercity in a 2-man party. They were Canthan and had finished the game. When we got to Pei, still no dice. I was in the lead.
Perhaps I will ask my accomplice to lead now.
Edit: Once I stop getting Err5 and Err7. Grr.
I haven't even finished Tahnnaki yet.Well, I got someone to help me get into the Undercity in a 2-man party. They were Canthan and had finished the game. When we got to Pei, still no dice. I was in the lead.
Perhaps I will ask my accomplice to lead now.
Edit: Once I stop getting Err5 and Err7. Grr.
mtm
I have completed all game missions, the screenshot was taken yesterday and the attempt to enter Vizunah local with my Tyrian char is (a couple of weeks) after completing all missions in Cantha.
Thanks a lot to Gli for posting his findings, I hope we are able to solve this "mystery".
I'd still like to know if , for the people that have entered both, both places are accesible normally. I feel that it "shouldn't" happen.
Btw noone noticed my lame iway build -.-
Thanks a lot to Gli for posting his findings, I hope we are able to solve this "mystery".
I'd still like to know if , for the people that have entered both, both places are accesible normally. I feel that it "shouldn't" happen.
Btw noone noticed my lame iway build -.-
Saupht
Well, actually, if we can enter that place, then our Tyrian characters will be able to get the Canthan protector title (it would be the 13th mission...)! So we'd better work on it...
A??rendil
what about us Cantha character?? :S I don't suppose it's possible to enter any pre-LA missions with a Cantha character and a Tyrian leader? ... I will try that sometime this week. Have to run a lot back.
Anyway so i as a Cantha char am able to enter the Foreign part?
Anyway so i as a Cantha char am able to enter the Foreign part?
Rok
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Originally Posted by Aërendil
what about us Cantha character?? :S I don't suppose it's possible to enter any pre-LA missions with a Cantha character and a Tyrian leader? ... I will try that sometime this week. Have to run a lot back.
Anyway so i as a Cantha char am able to enter the Foreign part? Cantha characters cannot enter Pre-LA missions at all, no matter who leads.
edit:
just ran from K-center to the Foreign access point, as you can see on my screenshot i have never been there before and the gate is open/no guard
My Assassin has finished game though, so not sure at which point you gain access.
Anyway so i as a Cantha char am able to enter the Foreign part? Cantha characters cannot enter Pre-LA missions at all, no matter who leads.
edit:
just ran from K-center to the Foreign access point, as you can see on my screenshot i have never been there before and the gate is open/no guard
My Assassin has finished game though, so not sure at which point you gain access.
Reikai
hmm :/ so I tried to enter Vizunah Local with my Tyrian char... and it diddn't work. My chars already beaten the game.
So I assume that this is a bug that in order to enter Vizunah Local with a Tyrian char the ONLY thing that must have been done in between entering Vizunah Local and Not being able to enter Vizunah local is complete Nahpui Quarter... If you have done anythign else, you won't be allowed in x_X?
So I assume that this is a bug that in order to enter Vizunah Local with a Tyrian char the ONLY thing that must have been done in between entering Vizunah Local and Not being able to enter Vizunah local is complete Nahpui Quarter... If you have done anythign else, you won't be allowed in x_X?
Saupht
I just tried just after finishing Nahpui with Henchies, and it didn't work. I'm sure, it was a bug, but perhaps it was because of the composition of the team. Do you remember if your leader was Canthan or Tyrian?
Raptox
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Originally Posted by Rok
just ran from K-center to the Foreign access point, as you can see on my screenshot i have never been there before and the gate is open/no guard
My Assassin has finished game though, so not sure at which point you gain access. Nitpick: your screenshot doesn't tell me whether or not you've already been there. Map icons don't show up on the insert map.
Regardless, I'm not disputing your post. You're an assassin, which means you're Canthan, and you obviously have access to Vizunah Foreign.
Feh, looks like we're going to have to get a Dev to clear this up.
Edit: Or I could read the Dev forum. You know, like a rational human being. Maybe I'll post a question there.
My Assassin has finished game though, so not sure at which point you gain access. Nitpick: your screenshot doesn't tell me whether or not you've already been there. Map icons don't show up on the insert map.
Regardless, I'm not disputing your post. You're an assassin, which means you're Canthan, and you obviously have access to Vizunah Foreign.
Feh, looks like we're going to have to get a Dev to clear this up.
Edit: Or I could read the Dev forum. You know, like a rational human being. Maybe I'll post a question there.
frickaline
My Canthan/Factions character (ritualist) could eventually get to both. My Tyrian/Prophecies character could only ever get to foreign.
I am thinking that perhaps prophecies characters cannot access local (unless perhaps they are in party with Canthans and have completed Nahpui). Can anyone claim to have a prophcies character in local without Canthan assistance ?
I am thinking that perhaps prophecies characters cannot access local (unless perhaps they are in party with Canthans and have completed Nahpui). Can anyone claim to have a prophcies character in local without Canthan assistance ?
Raptox
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Originally Posted by frickaline
I am thinking that perhaps prophecies characters cannot access local (unless perhaps they are in party with Canthans and have completed Nahpui). Can anyone claim to have a prophcies character in local without Canthan assistance ?
I had finished NQ when I was in a Canthan-led party going to Local. This was their first trip to Local and as such they hadn't finished NQ. When they all teleported in I was left outside of Local with that jerk Pei and my buddy Senjo Wah.
lennymon
perhaps only accessible to someone who has finished the game? or a group without henchies?
koneko
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perhaps only accessible to someone who has finished the game? or a group without henchies?
My Tyrian monk has "finished the game" (Imperial Sanctum, but not the Luxon missions just yet) and was unable to enter Vizunah Square (Local Quarter) in a group without henchies (solo running).
JoDiamonds
Yes, the appearance is that Canthans can do both sides, but Tyrians cannot.
Saupht
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Originally Posted by Gli
Well... extremely weird. We checked what I posted earlier because we picked it up as a rumor. This is what we did, with 4 people, some hailing from Tyria, some from Cantha.
- Travel from the Marketplace to the entrance of Vizunah Local. We ran into a locked gate with a guard. - Disband and reform our party at Nahpui Quarter, enter and complete the mission. - Map travel with the entire party back to the Marketplace and make our way back to Vizunah Local. The gate was open and there wasn't a guard. - Walk inside Vizunah Local, map travel to Kaineng Center, fight our way past the Jade Brotherhood to the Vizunah Foreign entrance. The gate was open as well. - No one accepted or completed any quests during all this time and we had the same party leader all the time. So, either there's no rhyme or reason to it or there's another prerequisite for the gates to open that we all met coincidentally, but completing Nahpui Quarter was the only thing we did between the gates being opened and closed. We never map travelled into either Vizunah Local or Vizunah Foreign. I'll post a screenshot when I get home and into the game. How can it be explained then? Rathcail
Necessary to have mixed group of Canthan and Tyrian players who have completed the mission perhaps? Has anyone actually tried having a Canthan leader who has completed the mission leading the group to the local quarter?
Raptox seems to have tried this several times but there's no results from him about a Canthan-led party where everyone would have completed the mission. Also Gli doesn't say if the party leader changed during the reform in NQ.
Reikai
I think, that for tyrian characters to enter Nahpui Local, the party must fuffil the following requirements:
1.) No Henchmen (or so it seems... so far anyway.) 2.) Be led by a group of Canthan characters 3.) Everyone in the party must ahve passed the mission "Nahpui Quarter" Saupht
If someone could check on this, it would be really useful
Raptox
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Originally Posted by Reikai
I think, that for tyrian characters to enter Nahpui Local, the party must fuffil the following requirements:
1.) No Henchmen (or so it seems... so far anyway.) 2.) Be led by a group of Canthan characters 3.) Everyone in the party must ahve passed the mission "Nahpui Quarter" Sorry I disappeared there on you guys. Had some "domestic issues," you could say. I never got around to trying what Reikai has suggested in the quote. Was going to, but didn't. Not enough of my guildies are past the mission (total of three, heh) but at least they're all playing Canthan characters. Reikai's suggestion seems to be the best bet. Anyone wanna try it?
Reikai
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Originally Posted by Raptox
Sorry I disappeared there on you guys. Had some "domestic issues," you could say.
I never got around to trying what Reikai has suggested in the quote. Was going to, but didn't. Not enough of my guildies are past the mission (total of three, heh) but at least they're all playing Canthan characters. Reikai's suggestion seems to be the best bet. Anyone wanna try it? I'm up for this anytime. IGN: Reikai Tsubasa I suggest we get a group of people, and designate a time to do this :/ Saupht
Just re-tried in a solo run, with my Tyrian character, but doors were closed. I'll try again with a Canthan character (in a 2-men group), but i'm not quite optimistic.
I heard though, that Gaile Grey said they planned to change that, and allow Tyrian and Canthan to access all the Missions from Prophecies and Factions, anyone know more about that? Atila The Hunny
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Originally Posted by Saupht
Just re-tried in a solo run, with my Tyrian character, but doors were closed. I'll try again with a Canthan character (in a 2-men group), but i'm not quite optimistic.
I heard though, that Gaile Grey said they planned to change that, and allow Tyrian and Canthan to access all the Missions from Prophecies and Factions, anyone know more about that? Dont know if they have...but they should its silly...level 20 have helped others and guildies in the Prophecies missions all along why try to prevent this now.....it was advertised that all areas could be accessible by being in a party with someone that could access an area? Maybe its a bug that we cant get in??
D Fault
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Originally Posted by Saupht
Well, actually, if we can enter that place, then our Tyrian characters will be able to get the Canthan protector title (it would be the 13th mission...)! So we'd better work on it...
Foreign and Local count as the same mission, if you've done one, you've done the other.
I fought my way to the Foreign quarter with my ass and seven hench after I had done the Local. Door was open
Raptox
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Originally Posted by D Fault
I fought my way to the Foreign quarter with my ass and seven hench after I had done the Local. Door was open
Good. Makes sense. You're assassin is Canthan, and thus this further confirms that Canthans can get into Foreign.
Reikai, I got another guildie playing a Canthan char past NQ last night, so now I think we have 3 or 4. They're never on at the same time, though. I'll be on as IGN: "Amon Raptox" most likely. I'd like to put this to bed one way or the other before A.Net opens everything up to all chars just to say we did it, at least. CKaz
On an aside, amazing how goofy they made this no?
First time we tried to organize V Square mission in guild is when it came up - oh I'm in LOCAL you're in FOREIGN... and yeah then I tried to get my Tyrian to help them and no dice - they all zoned in and it kicked me *grr* Anyways it would make sense to open this stuff, what happened to '100%'??? I'm annoyed I got my Canthan to LA then Ascalon, I had heard about no earlier (shield) missions but no skill quests either???? *bah*
VenusJess
Gaile Gray did say that they are making it where canthans can do all the pre lions arch missions and tyrians can do the shing jea missions but not sure about the vizunah square missions. It was said they were going to try to get it in the game as soon as possible.
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