Well I hate these bloomin leeches I had to post this to support today :
Was just wondering if the players that leech the the game arenas for factions are breaking the any of the policy's in the game?
Reason why I ask this is because they are seriously making many gamers very frustrated when they enter a mission such as ( Fort Aspenwood )but refuse to fight the opposing team, but choose to remain at the respawn point until the end of the game and where they collect all the faction points regardless of weather the team wins or loses!
Due to this behaviour many players leave the mission game so as not to be used by these leechers, which leaves the original team with less players to fight the oppossing team.
If these people are considered to be using inappropriate behaviour by behaving in this manner and disrupting other peoples gaming enjoyment,I was hoping that support may be able to come up with some ways to remedy the problem which I realise may not be easy.
This coming weekend August 18 - 20 is another competative weekend, which I am positive that these leeches will be out in force to ruin for everybody else!
Will their be at the very least numerous admins monitoring these areas to help make this weekend as successful as possible?
Thanks in-advance for any support you may be able to help us with on this issue.
[Merged]Aspenwood Leeching/Concerns for x2 Faction Event/Leech Bot Speculation
djroar
djroar
My suggestion to this problem is much faster and far more simpiler.
Anet posts on the main in-game page that all suspected leeches will be banned by ADMINS in future.
From their the ADMINS make a huge stand in the predominant areas and ban accounts on-site that thay deem nessacery.
This way they see the problem first hand and deal with the leechers immediately, any problems anet just says you were banned by an admin that experienced your behaviuor first hand. SIMPLE ohhh not enough ADMINS? I am certain their are plenty of people happy to do the job.
Anet posts on the main in-game page that all suspected leeches will be banned by ADMINS in future.
From their the ADMINS make a huge stand in the predominant areas and ban accounts on-site that thay deem nessacery.
This way they see the problem first hand and deal with the leechers immediately, any problems anet just says you were banned by an admin that experienced your behaviuor first hand. SIMPLE ohhh not enough ADMINS? I am certain their are plenty of people happy to do the job.
wilebill
I posted a thread about this yesterday. This morning I logged into Fort Aspenwood and found that the number of leachers on the Kurzick side there is now growing. I guess the bot operators are tuning up for the weekend. Smallest number of leachers in my groups was three. Largest was five. With only three players you can't do much. The Luxons have fewer leachers because amber on the Kurzick side is worth more.
People were leaving the Fort because it was just not possible to play because of the leachers. By the time the weekend starts, the bots will be out in full force unless ANet takes action before then. But, given the reply above, I doubt that they will.
This is very sad. It also makes me wonder if Nightfall will have similar problem with exploits.
People were leaving the Fort because it was just not possible to play because of the leachers. By the time the weekend starts, the bots will be out in full force unless ANet takes action before then. But, given the reply above, I doubt that they will.
This is very sad. It also makes me wonder if Nightfall will have similar problem with exploits.
Big_Iron
Did we really have to dredge this old thread up again?
BTW, this wouldn't work anyway.
BTW, this wouldn't work anyway.
Numa Pompilius
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Aren't there leechers in RA ?
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wilebill
This morning, Thursday, I logged into Fort Aspenwood and found that the number of leachers on the Kurzick side there is now growing as predicted.
It looks like the bot operators are tuning up for the weekend. Smallest number of leachers in my groups was three. Largest was five. Groups at the Fort are random with 8 players. With only three non leaching players you can't do much. The Luxons have fewer leachers because amber on the Kurzick side is worth more.
People were leaving the Kurzick side of the Fort because it was just not possible to play because of the leachers. By the time the weekend starts, the bots will be out in full force unless ANet takes action before then.
If ANet does not take action, then a possible strategy for players will be to play the Luxon side. With the Kurzick side more heavily exploited by leachers, the Luxons should win quickly each time. This is a depressing solution, with all of the fun of shooting fish in a barrel.
It looks like the bot operators are tuning up for the weekend. Smallest number of leachers in my groups was three. Largest was five. Groups at the Fort are random with 8 players. With only three non leaching players you can't do much. The Luxons have fewer leachers because amber on the Kurzick side is worth more.
People were leaving the Kurzick side of the Fort because it was just not possible to play because of the leachers. By the time the weekend starts, the bots will be out in full force unless ANet takes action before then.
If ANet does not take action, then a possible strategy for players will be to play the Luxon side. With the Kurzick side more heavily exploited by leachers, the Luxons should win quickly each time. This is a depressing solution, with all of the fun of shooting fish in a barrel.
wilebill
At Fort Aspenwood this morning, Thursday, the minimum number of leachers in the group on the Kurzick side was three. The maximum was five, out of a random group of 8 players. These were all the dumb sort of bot that just stands there for the duration of the game. A few were old familiar names who have been there for weeks. The others were unfamiliar to me, probably new bots being brought online for the competitive weekend.
People were leaving the Fort. The comment I remember best was "The fun is broken."
The fun is broken. Only ANet can bring the fun back by getting rid of the bots.
People were leaving the Fort. The comment I remember best was "The fun is broken."
The fun is broken. Only ANet can bring the fun back by getting rid of the bots.
Demesis
If Anet isn't going to do anything about it, I suggest to everyone that we all go leeching.
Anet's too lazy to fix this problem, so we can exploit it during the event and we are not to blame.
I never leech and I never really play Aspenwood, but as a show of protest I ask everyone to leech to boycott the event.
Anet's too lazy to fix this problem, so we can exploit it during the event and we are not to blame.
I never leech and I never really play Aspenwood, but as a show of protest I ask everyone to leech to boycott the event.
Caged Fury
Yes, I agree that the fun is broken in Fort Aspenwood. I used to enjoy playing there, win or lose, it was fun playing that map especially on the kurzick side. One or two leechers in the team didn't really had much impact, but recently there appears to be more and more. The last time I was at Fort Aspenwood was the weekend, and the higher number of leechers just took the fun out of it all. Leechers ruin things by not doing anything and driving others away. I was in 5 consecutive games with same leechers (3 or more) and others in the team who knew what they were apologised and left, putting the extremely small remaining team at a big disadvantage. I haven't been back since and I don't plan to.
Maybe those who enjoy these maps and hate leechers/bots should boycott the map. Let all the leechers enter the battle together only to find that there are no one doing the work to get them the points that they're too lazy to work for.
Maybe those who enjoy these maps and hate leechers/bots should boycott the map. Let all the leechers enter the battle together only to find that there are no one doing the work to get them the points that they're too lazy to work for.
Numa Pompilius
Just a personal nitpick. It's LEECHER, not LEACHER. They're named after the animal leech, because they attach to other people and parasitize on them:
And of course because they farking SUCK.
And of course because they farking SUCK.
milias
Personally, I think this event would give ANet a rare opportunity to concentrate their attention on such alleged infractions by unscrupulous players as in the OP. Maybe as a result, ANet can come up with a good solution to this problem.
Numa Pompilius
My advice: screenshot leechers (make sure you have screenshots of them idling in more than one match, and make a note of time!) and report them. These people are griefers, botters & gold sellers all at once, and we all know how ANet feels about those, so I'd be surprised if the hammer didn't fall. Maybe not today, maybe not before the event, but you can bet it'll fall.
aron searle
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Did we really have to dredge this old thread up again?
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Anet said to post on forums and report them
Everyday somebody makes a post about this or a new thread once a week at least on most forums, ive reported afkers, to still see them afking/botting weeks later.
The weekend event is coming up and so far they have been unprepared/unable to do anything about it.
I would assume they are partly doing these events as promotinal items and rewards for players = nice delivery
Pyramus Loral
Okay here is hopeing someone on a dev team is reading this.
Two words for you. KICK BUTTON!
If you can vote to kick someone from a party in mission then problem solved.
Two words for you. KICK BUTTON!
If you can vote to kick someone from a party in mission then problem solved.
Xenrath
The usual robonet answer - "go post about it on a forum" When you get that bit in there, you know they don't care 
I got the same about a bug I found a while back... no response since then, doubt if anything will be done about it.
edit: I agree with the other sentiments about being told to go post on forums about it, seriously something wrong with that picture. If you're playing a sports event (just for example) and notice some very unsportsmanlike behaviour, you go to the referee and complain about it, and explain it. The ref then tells you to go write about it on some sports magazine.... (he is not doing his job/doesn't want to/doesn't care) If you don't see what's wrong with that picture.... *shakes head*
I got the same about a bug I found a while back... no response since then, doubt if anything will be done about it.edit: I agree with the other sentiments about being told to go post on forums about it, seriously something wrong with that picture. If you're playing a sports event (just for example) and notice some very unsportsmanlike behaviour, you go to the referee and complain about it, and explain it. The ref then tells you to go write about it on some sports magazine.... (he is not doing his job/doesn't want to/doesn't care) If you don't see what's wrong with that picture.... *shakes head*
wilebill
Thanks Numa, leecher it is!
xiaotsu
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As to an anti-bot function in the challenges, how about something as (seemingly) simple as an auto-disconnect after being idle and/or not using skills for XX amount of time. If you aren't doing anything, maybe the game can take some initiative and kick you out.
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Ira Blinks
awhile ago (but after this thread was created) Galie actually posted on forums that leechers are not a support issue and they will simply disregard all submitted reports =\
Eviance
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I thought Anet offcially stated that they will do nothing about leechers?
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At least that is my view.
majoho
More players during the weekend probably means the percentage of leechers will drop - I don't see the problem.
Mercury Angel
Few too many threads about aspenwood afk leeching and botting, so I went ahead and merged them. It's a valid problem, but not one that warrants three separate threads on the first page.
Former Ruling
NOTICE: I'd quote more, but the merging broke and I cant see anything past page 2
God FORBID someone actually have to think a situation out and come up with valid points inorder to be seriously heard.
Wait...Skip That...its GREAT that its like that. So basically every little crybaby that had his precious item taken or his precious mission ruined doesn't get as much attention as someone that took the extra time to sign up and make valid points and argue those points...
These Missions =/= PvE.
In PvP style play, you get all the rewards even if the people died miles away from you.
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Wait...Skip That...its GREAT that its like that. So basically every little crybaby that had his precious item taken or his precious mission ruined doesn't get as much attention as someone that took the extra time to sign up and make valid points and argue those points...
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In PvP style play, you get all the rewards even if the people died miles away from you.
eternal pho
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Haha, ran into this kind of thing a few times. Most of the time it was on the Kurzick side with a Mo/R, she just followed one person spamming (a decent) orison and signet or rejuvination with what seems to be unlimited energy.
Had her follow me one game, yet next time she was following and healing another afker constantly for the whole match >_>. Can't have everything can you :P? |
lol I saw one of those constant healing bots spamming orison+sig of reju. the entire battle.
Yakumo
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More players during the weekend probably means the percentage of leechers will drop - I don't see the problem.
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Hmmm... Faction points = Jadeite/Amber = Gold = Leechers/Bots
I wonder how many people would still play this map if the link between Jadeite/Amber to Gold was removed from the game...
Charqus
This event is going to attract leeches no doubt but what can Anet do about it??
Amy Awien
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... the ADMINS make a huge stand in the predominant areas and ban accounts on-site that thay deem nessacery. ...
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Ninna
I hope people from ANET play at Aspenwood this weekend
so they can experience the AFK issue 1st hand
so they can experience the AFK issue 1st hand
Dave83
I had mentioned this problem in another thread a couple of days ago. I hate to speak bad of Anet, because compared to other companies I genuinely think they care about their customers alot more.
But when I logged in and saw this event coming up I thought that's just ridiculous. They choose the worst place for this event and they are effectively helping to attract more afk leeching. And it's not just aspenwood it's all over in missions.
I think it's one of the biggest problems in Guild Wars. Of course it's not Anet's fault, but they could take more measures to prevent it. Or give the player the ability to.
My personal suggestions to lower leeching:
- Finally add an option to kick party members in game.
- Make leeching a banable 'offence'. Change the eula/terms of agreament and make everyone agree to it after downloading the latest update. No legal consequences. WoW makes you agree to a new one everytime after a patch, not that hard to do unless im missing something.
- Make these areas like other areas - able to form parties, so that when an individual is leeching constantly he gets a bad rep and known to groups - harder to get in a party.
But when I logged in and saw this event coming up I thought that's just ridiculous. They choose the worst place for this event and they are effectively helping to attract more afk leeching. And it's not just aspenwood it's all over in missions.
I think it's one of the biggest problems in Guild Wars. Of course it's not Anet's fault, but they could take more measures to prevent it. Or give the player the ability to.
My personal suggestions to lower leeching:
- Finally add an option to kick party members in game.
- Make leeching a banable 'offence'. Change the eula/terms of agreament and make everyone agree to it after downloading the latest update. No legal consequences. WoW makes you agree to a new one everytime after a patch, not that hard to do unless im missing something.
- Make these areas like other areas - able to form parties, so that when an individual is leeching constantly he gets a bad rep and known to groups - harder to get in a party.
Darkveil
signed.
Leechers here, leechers there, leechers everywhere...
I especially dislike those bastards hiding in the corner >:\
Leechers here, leechers there, leechers everywhere...
I especially dislike those bastards hiding in the corner >:\
Zinger314
Not sure if this belongs in THIS topic...but it's relevant.
(How many times can you mispell "Kurzick?")
The locations seem to be reversed, though. (i.e. You click to go to Jade Quarry, you go to Aspenwood and visa versa)
The last message is so PvE characters don't cheat the campaign.
(How many times can you mispell "Kurzick?")
The locations seem to be reversed, though. (i.e. You click to go to Jade Quarry, you go to Aspenwood and visa versa)
The last message is so PvE characters don't cheat the campaign.
jayce
how about enabling a feature that autopunts for non-random behavior in the pvp areas? from my understanding, bots generally follow a certain pattern while leechers follow no pattern whatsoever. i've never meet a live person that presses the same keys on the keyboard in the same pattern while in pvp. i dont know how hard it would be to code something like that, but it would eliminate your bot and leecher problem.
Kaguya
Things look pretty normal to me, atleast on Euro server. Or actually, there's more people playing than afking it seems, than normally that be.
Only problem is... "Let's mess up some luxon teams!"/"Let's mess up some kurzick teams!"-idiots, who enter the game, leave the game, enter the next game, leave, enter the next, eating off that one player slot. If someone quits, they should be just replaced on the fly with next peep in the line, imo. Bzzz.
Only problem is... "Let's mess up some luxon teams!"/"Let's mess up some kurzick teams!"-idiots, who enter the game, leave the game, enter the next game, leave, enter the next, eating off that one player slot. If someone quits, they should be just replaced on the fly with next peep in the line, imo. Bzzz.
Ninna
Friday nite and Saturday morning Ive seen *less* AFKers/Leechers 
Ulivious The Reaper
meh you guys are lucky, this morning i had a group with 3 leechers.. MONK LEECHERS to be exact.. -.- it sucks and a problem Anet needs to be fixing over EoE :|
brian78wa
This has become a major problem. I have been in a few games where theres more leechers than players. Cause why work when you can get the faction free? This really needs to be addressed. HA/GvG are not the only pvp that people play. Couldnt you make it to where if youre not participating you dont get the faction? I know you do that for PvE to where if youre not close enough you dont get xp.
Also if this matters at all heres a list of major offenders of this.
Names removed: We're not a blacklist site.
there are others but these guys are an everyday thing. I manage to get atleast 1 of them per day.
I love playing in Aspenwood but not when the leechers outweigh the players.
Also on a different note. There are people who really abuse a glitch in aspenwood. They purposely target the Luxon warrior npcs and run them to certain areas in the map to get them stuck so the turtles will never respawn. Please fix this as well.
Also if this matters at all heres a list of major offenders of this.
Names removed: We're not a blacklist site.
there are others but these guys are an everyday thing. I manage to get atleast 1 of them per day.
I love playing in Aspenwood but not when the leechers outweigh the players.
Also on a different note. There are people who really abuse a glitch in aspenwood. They purposely target the Luxon warrior npcs and run them to certain areas in the map to get them stuck so the turtles will never respawn. Please fix this as well.
Samurai-JM
Heres an idea: Anyone that goes afk and stay in/near the starting area for extended amounts of time gets zapped and dies.
OR...
Just make it so that no one in/near the starting area gains exp/faction. Then they won't lose survivor, but they won't be able to leech for more of it either. Seems fair I think.
OR...
Just make it so that no one in/near the starting area gains exp/faction. Then they won't lose survivor, but they won't be able to leech for more of it either. Seems fair I think.
Mr_Cynical
Solution: ban the leechers. Of course, Anet prefer powerless nerfs to actually doing something about cheating. I had six leechers in Aspenwood the other day ffs, 'unaware of the depth of the problem' my ass.
Esprit
We've been through a release of the next chapter, with GWEN and GW2 on the horizon, I really doubt there is going to be anything done about it.
Ideas have been brought up many times, some pretty good, but nothing has been done about it. Fort Aspenwood, Jade Quarry, and the Alliance Battle arenas are unfortunately stuck with afker's and leechers.
Ideas have been brought up many times, some pretty good, but nothing has been done about it. Fort Aspenwood, Jade Quarry, and the Alliance Battle arenas are unfortunately stuck with afker's and leechers.
J.Kougar
Leeching in places like Aspenwood has been an issue since Factions came out, an ArenaNet has made it clear they don't care (I too reported dozens and dozens of people, even the same people day after day, and they didn't care). Even Gaile once said that she didn't see leeching as a problem. So if the Customer Relations person doesn't think it's an issue if people want to leech and ruin the game play for people who actually want to play legitimately and enjoy it, then we are more than screwed when it comes to expecting them to ever do anything to fix it. Seems more and more these days that ArenaNet cares less and less about the player's enjoyment of the game, just so long as they get their money (problem is, they are driving people away and that's going to cost them a lot, and more as time goes on).
Bryant Again
Wow thread res.
And if nothing's been dealt with already, then it's most likely that nothing's going to change.
And if nothing's been dealt with already, then it's most likely that nothing's going to change.