100% Canthan Map Discussion and Help

eVeRt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

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Damn you Nahpui exploable!!! I've been trying to get this piece explored all evening:



The arrows point out from wich direction I have tried to get it. Could someone please tell me where to wall-hug to get it? Thanks.

okey86

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005



woo hoo, finally made it, took 3 days to enter jade quary arena, dam different time zones

Taeron

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/W

Evert to get to the location you pointed you need to start from the Senji's Corner. Use the South exit then follow the road. Soon enough it'll start to go down, keep heading South along the water. Once you have gone south, the area will get dark.
I guess you've already tried it but try to wall-hug very slowly, by moving your char back and forth. Sometimes the map will uncover even when you're turning your back to the wall ^^

Livingston

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeron
Evert to get to the location you pointed you need to start from the Senji's Corner. Use the South exit then follow the road. Soon enough it'll start to go down, keep heading South along the water. Once you have gone south, the area will get dark.
I guess you've already tried it but try to wall-hug very slowly, by moving your char back and forth. Sometimes the map will uncover even when you're turning your back to the wall ^^ This was actually the last spot I got to get me 100%. I had already tried to clear it 3 times previous. In order to get this spot I turned up the gamma as high as it could go and still be viewable. That way I could see exactly where all the walls were, thus I was able to hit every little nook. It worked. Try it out.

And congratulations to jjdefan, Falco, Obsidian, and Okey!!!

Livingston

Luis

Luis

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Hmm, Leighwyn. I got 99.9% and i got Arbostone and Quarry Spots left. I can't ever get to quarry so i focused on Arbostone. Prolem is this, that i can't see difrence in our maps. Can u "show" it more clearly? (Screen, etc.)

eVeRt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

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Finally and I got it without the Nahpui part... Thanks alot everyone for your help. Especially Leighwyn!!!! My hero!!!!

Luis

Luis

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

@Livingston
I see that i am missing spot 17 in Qinkai map. How can i get there?

Livingston

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis
@Livingston
I see that i am missing spot 17 in Qinkai map. How can i get there? You get that from hugging the walls in the Jade Quarry. I know it's hard to get into but you might be able to organize a group to get in there.

I might actually try to set something up myself to organize groups to get in there and explore.

Also congratulations to eVeRt

Livingston

thomasnl88

thomasnl88

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

[iDum]

Quote:
Originally Posted by okey86


woo hoo, finally made it, took 3 days to enter jade quary arena, dam different time zones Thnx to Mortor Right

Livingston

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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I've just added a bit about getting into the Jade Quarry and Fort Aspenwood in my other thread in the Q&A section:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...84#post1878384

If you still need to get in, PM me your IGN (in game name), and what server you are on. I will let you know when I have enough people from your server to get in. If you PM me, but get in before we get together, please try to make it to our gathering anyway so other people can get in as well.

Livingston

Leighwyn

Leighwyn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle

Limbo

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis
Hmm, Leighwyn. I got 99.9% and i got Arbostone and Quarry Spots left. I can't ever get to quarry so i focused on Arbostone. Prolem is this, that i can't see difrence in our maps. Can u "show" it more clearly? (Screen, etc.) Here you go, Luis. The differences, I admit, are hard to see but the keen-eyed alt-tab user will pick them up all the same I realize I mistakingly said explorable instead of mission (Which these spots are a part of) so..oops

clark_wilson

clark_wilson

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Minny

Mo/

Ok nobody seemed to have any input on my .4%, but I know 2 areas I need but need pointers on how to get them. Detailed ones please. I know how to hug walls but I've done that and they still don't uncover. The spots are as follows according to Livingston's guide:

Mount Quinkai
Spot number 16. I can't get the black flag thing to uncover.

Spot number 19. I finally got a group and somehow got the area.

Up to 99.7% but still need help. Please anybody, can you give me pointers on uncovering the black flag thing behind the boat at Aspenwood Luxon side. Please!

Taeron

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/W

Using Livingston's maps on the other thread I managed to locate several uncovred areas. I wasn't able to play a lot today so I only explored Shing jea Island, Kaineng and Echovald Forest. My %age went from 97.7 to 98.4% and there's not much to uncover ^^
I'll continue to alt-tab using your maps Livingston but I'd like to know if spots like number 15,16 and 20 in Kaineng must be reached from te undercity. I feel like the last 1.6% are in the undercity but I'm not sure. If someone can provide me info about undercity links with exploration it would be greatly appreciated, thanks :]

jjiinx13

jjiinx13

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Southeast USA

Hounds Of Creegus

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Quote:
Originally Posted by JamSan
Same with me, he does seem to banish the healers more often than the others though, perhaps thats the key. He also hates Mesmers. I guess I put too many degen hexes on him. lol

Livingston

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeron
Using Livingston's maps on the other thread I managed to locate several uncovred areas. I wasn't able to play a lot today so I only explored Shing jea Island, Kaineng and Echovald Forest. My %age went from 97.7 to 98.4% and there's not much to uncover ^^
I'll continue to alt-tab using your maps Livingston but I'd like to know if spots like number 15,16 and 20 in Kaineng must be reached from te undercity. I feel like the last 1.6% are in the undercity but I'm not sure. If someone can provide me info about undercity links with exploration it would be greatly appreciated, thanks :] 15 is uncovered in the south border of the Vizunah Sqaure Mission
16 is uncovered in the north border of Shenzun Tunnels
20 is found in the Zin Kun Corridor Outpost across from the statue of Balthazar, near the NPC Resongkai. You just need to hit the corner. I had trouble fininding that spot as well and nearly kicked myself after spending hours searching for it in explorable areas.

Livingston

Livingston

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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Quote:
Originally Posted by clark_wilson
Ok nobody seemed to have any input on my .4%, but I know 2 areas I need but need pointers on how to get them. Detailed ones please. I know how to hug walls but I've done that and they still don't uncover. The spots are as follows according to Livingston's guide:

Mount Quinkai
Spot number 16. I can't get the black flag thing to uncover.

Spot number 19. I finally got a group and somehow got the area.

Up to 99.7% but still need help. Please anybody, can you give me pointers on uncovering the black flag thing behind the boat at Aspenwood Luxon side. Please! I'm pretty sure that 19 can be hit from the outpost.

As for 16, have you entered the Fort Aspenwood mission area yet?

I'm not exactly sure how to get this one as I got it naturally through exploring, so I didn't really noticed how that spot was uncovered. Though my best guess would be inside Fort Aspenwood.

Livingston

clark_wilson

clark_wilson

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Minny

Mo/

Of course I've entered Fort Aspenwood, its just that for some reason when I look at most 100% maps that black flag thing behind the boat is uncovered but when I enter I can't get close enough for it to uncover. I figured someone knew a certain spot that helped uncover it.

Luis

Luis

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Thx all (especially Legihwyn and Livingston)! I Finally get my Grandmaster Cartographer Title:

sour fruit

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

How do u access the area directly west of Arborstone, i've tried getting there from Alt ruins, and from the mission, and hints and tips?

Taeron

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by sour fruit
How do u access the area directly west of Arborstone, i've tried getting there from Alt ruins, and from the mission, and hints and tips? Get in the Altrumm ruins outpost, grab mercs, and click on start mission this is a challenge area where you need to kill lots of mobs to get amber. You can survive long enough to explore the whole area.

Zerimar

Zerimar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Rt/Me

Gotta queston: Do you guys use running builds or fight your way around with henchies?

Looking for the best way i can do this with Rit.

Thread is alot of help.

sour fruit

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

How do u access this place, it's the (bottom) layer, the rivery layer, not the top layer to get from tanglewood to aborstone..tried everything to get down there but i cannot figure it out

Leighwyn

Leighwyn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle

Limbo

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by sour fruit
How do u access this place, it's the (bottom) layer, the rivery layer, not the top layer to get from tanglewood to aborstone..tried everything to get down there but i cannot figure it out Arborstone explorable

sour fruit

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

yes....of course it's that silly :P ..how do u get there, i've tried and tried i cannot see a enterence.
name is 'yah fruit' if anyone wants to show

Leighwyn

Leighwyn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle

Limbo

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerimar
Gotta queston: Do you guys use running builds or fight your way around with henchies?

Looking for the best way i can do this with Rit.

Thread is alot of help. A lot of the areas in Cantha are tough enough to not make running a viable mapping option. Basically, you need to carefully edge-walk and won't usually survive. On the other hand, most of the areas are pretty easy to hench if you're methodical.

ReVel4tion

ReVel4tion

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

can someone give a little insight as to where i can uncover this spot

Mount Qinkai

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Taeron

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/W

I need to uncover it too, but according to those who care to help here you need to stick to the nothern wall of Pongmei Valley (near Assassin boss Xuekao) AND to stick near Grenth's statue in south Sunjiang explorable.
I did it and it uncovered a little spot on my map, although it's not enough but I wasn't sure when I left the area.

Shyft the Pyro

Shyft the Pyro

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

NYC, USA

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by clark_wilson
Mount Quinkai
Spot number 16. I can't get the black flag thing to uncover.
The possibilities are:

1) Inside Fort Aspenwood battle area, when loading from the Luxon side. Take the left teleporter and run backwards until you hit a wall.

2) SE corner of Mount Quinkai. Walk south out of the west exit of Breaker Hollow and hug the south wall when you get to it. Make sure to kill the warrior boss so you aren't disturbed.

3) Some places might open up only when viewing the arena cinematic. If neither of the above works, try choosing "Replay the mission cinematic" from the end-quest NPC's dialogue in Luxon Fort Aspenwood outpost.

4) Some places might open up only when winning the battle. During the double points event I noticed that after the Jade Quarry cutscene ended, I was briefly able to see my team standing on terrain I could not identify. The Fort Aspenwood cutscene has been removed, but it is possible that winning teams are still deposited somewhere after winning the battle but before disbanding in the outpost, and it is possible that you might be able to uncover something from such a spot. It's still speculation, though.

Quote: Originally Posted by Frio Hey Guys I went through the list Shyft was nice enough to make me, But I guess I didn't hit quite everything... You're still missing:

-the mountain spot west of Tsumei Village;
-SW corner of Shing Jea Monastery outpost;
-south wall of Dragon's Throat outpost (uncover from outside the outpost);
-NE corner of Imperial Sanctum mission (banishment area);
-NW corner of Tahnnakai Temple explorable;
-SE corner of Undercity;
-center of Shenzun Tunnels;
-the farmland spot east of Maatu Keep;
-east wall, SE corner and SW corner of Pongmei Valley;
-east and south walls of Nahpui Quarter explorable;
-west wall of Gyala Hatchery explorable;
-east wall, SE corner and NW corner of Jade Quarry battle area;
-west wall of Mount Quinkai;
-south wall of Fort Aspenwood battle area;
-NW corner of Arborstone explorable (top level);
-north and east walls of Ferndale;
-east wall of Drazach Thicket;
-north wall and NE corner of Morostav Trail;
-SW corner and east wall of Amatz Basin;
-south wall of Mourning Veil Falls.

If you're not sure whether you've cleared a spot, compare your map to Leighwyn's with the ALT+TAB method. That's what I do to find these spots for you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerimar
Gotta queston: Do you guys use running builds or fight your way around with henchies? Running and mapping at the same time is counterintuitive, since one requires you to move fast while the other demands careful exploration and constant map comparison. In addition, most of Cantha is notoriously difficult to run, and the difficult missed spots which force you to return to already hard zones makes henchies the best choice for exploration.

The only times I would suggest running builds are in situations where 1) there are no enemies or 2) where fighting won't help. For example, the "arcade" missions like Amatz Basin and Aurios Mines can be explored fully by running rather than fighting, though I would highly suggest bringing a fighting build into Fort Aspenwood and Jade Quarry so that your teammates don't get pissed off.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReVel4tion
can someone give a little insight as to where i can uncover this spot That's the "farmland" spot east of Maatu Keep. Depending on the extent of the fog on your map, you may need to check any one of the three surrounding areas - SE corner of Shenzun Tunnels, north wall of Pongmei Valley and SW corner of Sunjiang District explorable - to fully uncover it. Make sure to go into Sunjiang District explorable and not mission, because even though the mission starts closer it features a closed gate that does not let you proceed to the SW corner of Sunjiang District.

That should do for now

Leighwyn

Leighwyn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle

Limbo

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
The possibilities are:

1) Inside Fort Aspenwood battle area, when loading from the Luxon side. Take the left teleporter and run backwards until you hit a wall.

2) SE corner of Mount Quinkai. Walk south out of the west exit of Breaker Hollow and hug the south wall when you get to it. Make sure to kill the warrior boss so you aren't disturbed.

3) Some places might open up only when viewing the arena cinematic. If neither of the above works, try choosing "Replay the mission cinematic" from the end-quest NPC's dialogue in Luxon Fort Aspenwood outpost.

4) Some places might open up only when winning the battle. During the double points event I noticed that after the Jade Quarry cutscene ended, I was briefly able to see my team standing on terrain I could not identify. The Fort Aspenwood cutscene has been removed, but it is possible that winning teams are still deposited somewhere after winning the battle but before disbanding in the outpost, and it is possible that you might be able to uncover something from such a spot. It's still speculation, though.

EDIT: Since I'm already here, I am editing this post with replies to more things as I see them. Thanks Shyft, I was missing this very spot and had tried #1 and #2 but failed. #3 was the one that revealed it, so in reference to the previous post, reveal that spot via the cinematic!

jtchans

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/

Hey, I got to 98.3% with Shyft's help and uncoverd most of the spots he showed me.

I am still looking for the last few parts of fog.

Did not explore Viz Square walls yet and the bainishment path yet.
If anyone could help me that would be great!

Shing Jea:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3777/shing1rf9.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/13/shing2bc4.jpg

City:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8145/city1sk3.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6026/city2ts9.jpg

Kurz:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6838/kurz1xq1.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kurz2qg4.jpg

Luxon:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5972/luxkurz1ec8.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/7836/luxon1fx5.jpg

Thanks Again!

clark_wilson

clark_wilson

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Minny

Mo/

Shyft you are awesome. I watched the Cutscene and the area uncovered. I would of never thought of that! Sadly it didn't give me any %, but I think it may have given me .05%. Currently at 99.8%.

By the way, if you win, you instantly zone back at aspenwood.

sour fruit

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

How do u access this little island here? I've tried wall hugging.. Just north of the boat a island is ment to be there,,,

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sour fruit
How do u access this place, it's the (bottom) layer, the rivery layer, not the top layer to get from tanglewood to aborstone..tried everything to get down there but i cannot figure it out
You can go from Arbortstone expolrable indeed but there is also a trick that will make you able to explore it without wighting all your way through Arborstone. From Arborstone outpost, get out to the unnamed map (the one you have to cross to get to the outpost). Actually it is also Arbostone exporable, it's just there is no path between this place and what we generally call Arborstone explorable. Change your secondary to necro and bring necrotic traversal. Lure the Krins in the water with a longbow (if they're too far, rezone), kill one and use necrotic traversal. Congrats, you can explore the place! Just bring running skills and that's it.

Livingston

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis
Thx all (especially Legihwyn and Livingston)! I Finally get my Grandmaster Cartographer Title:
Congratulations!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leighwyn
Thanks Shyft, I was missing this very spot and had tried #1 and #2 but failed. #3 was the one that revealed it, so in reference to the previous post, reveal that spot via the cinematic! http://www.gothic-rose.net/Guildwars/Luxon%205.jpg

Just wondering, does my map have that spot fully clear? Or can I clear more of it?

Livingston