100% Canthan Map Discussion and Help

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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02 Sep 2006 at 17:01 - 962

At 98.6 you will have heaps of spots left to uncover. I was just about to go to bed so I won't have time to look at your map. However, if you make sure to use Leighwyn's tab method and check my numbered spots, I know you will be able to find all kinds of spots yourself, as I believe it would actually be near impossible for you to be missing that much and to have all the spots that I have numbered. Have you followed the directions on my thread?

Livingston

Exploding Arnzt

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

02 Sep 2006 at 17:51 - 963

Yeah i got the five maps with the numbers and i controlled all numbers and i think i got all points,I got to 100% maps and the 5 and i don't find any new spot

Maybe you can take a look at it tomorrow

Laila

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

Master Togo Fanclub

A/W

02 Sep 2006 at 17:53 - 964

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leighwyn

In other words, you are missing quite A LOT of spots, so you should try alt-tabbing more carefully

......well at least didn't miss every numbered spot

Now I'm a Grandmaster, too...though I didn't uncover the complete map of Cantha...but who cares

Edit: And I want to thank you

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

02 Sep 2006 at 18:14 - 965

Yes!!

Just got it! At the point I did get, I hadn't been banished by Shiro, I was missing some at the east and west end of Jade Quarry, and missing some of Raisu Palace. I have been to Monastary Overlook during the Dragon Festival. So there is quite a bit of leeway.

Great job you're doing for the community Livingston.

Death Snapper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada - Toronto

The Little Nutters (PWN)

02 Sep 2006 at 21:05 - 966

Hey, my tyrian character only has 98%, so I know there is a lot that I am missing. However I have been wall hugging everywhere which I suspect I can get anything at all, and also everywhere on the way as well. I have also been doing the alt tab method with a few other people’s maps, but it is becoming very difficult to find anything. I know I am missing a bit in jade quarry and have been waiting for a full team on both sides for a while.

If anyone could help me find any other parts I missed I would greatly appreciate that.

stitched together pictures, most is fine, but at the top I accidently moved the upper image so there is a small amount of repeat. I will probably fix this a bit later.
http://filexoom.com/files/15336/98map.jpg

Full map
http://filexoom.com/files/view/15336/gw278.jpg

if changing anything else besides fixing the top of the stitched map would help just ask. Until then I am going to search for more

EDIT: oh yeah, I have not read the whole thread yet (only up to page 15 so far), but will read the rest later today

EDIT2: Rephotoshoped the stitched map, now should be fine (I hope). It looks right to me, and can be viewed here http://filexoom.com/files/15336/98map%20copy.jpg

ozbrat

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Canberra ACT Aust

Temple of Older Gamers

W/Mo

02 Sep 2006 at 22:54 - 967

Ok I am also chasing this title. I looked through Livingstone's maps and found a whole area I missed, however I can't work out how to get to it.
Kaineng areas 7,8 & 9

Edit

Silly me I found the way in. Picked a whole 1.2% in there. 3% to go

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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03 Sep 2006 at 03:28 - 968

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik

Great job you're doing for the community Livingston.

Congrats Dougal and Laila. ^_^

Thank you for the compliments, but just remember I wouldn't have half the data I have if not for Leighwyn. Sure I would have gathered it eventually, but it certainly wouldn't be finished and probably wouldn't be up for another few months, so give it up for Leighwyn as well.

Quote: Originally Posted by Death Snapper EDIT: oh yeah, I have not read the whole thread yet (only up to page 15 so far), but will read the rest later today If you've read even the first page you should have seen Leighwyn's post directing you to the following thread:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10032479

He even has these huge arrows pointing to it. If you read that thread, you don't need to read all the pages in this thread, which was the point of creating the other thread.

Quote: Originally Posted by ozbrat

It always amazes me how many people add an "e" to the end of my name. It's like some mass hysteria or something...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exploding Arnzt

Yeah i got the five maps with the numbers and i controlled all numbers and i think i got all points,I got to 100% maps and the 5 and i don't find any new spot

Maybe you can take a look at it tomorrow

Yeah that megaupload place is pretty crap. I had a go at it as I haven't used it before, but I won't use it again. There are too many popups and redirects and fiddling around. Also I don't want to wait an entire minute for the site to set up a download for me. The files aren't that big, especially if you convert them from bitmap to jpeg (which you should always do when posting GW screenshots), so I should be able to click a link and download them immediately without all the stuffing around. That said please use imageshack in the future. The link for it is in my thread that I have posted above.

As for the maps...

Kaineng

7
8
9
10
12
13
14
15
16

That's just the very first one that I looked at. On 8-9 you have uncovered just as much as on my maps, but I have since uncovered more on both of those spots, I just need to update the map. To uncover it more you need to kill everything on the boarder of that area (or have a good tank character) and walk very very slowly against the border, trying as hard as you can to hit every little nook you can find. Death Snapper has the full 8-9 uncovered on his map (Map), but he's also missing 7 and a heap of others, so only use it to see what number 7 & 8 look like fully uncovered.

I imagine that if I looked at the rest of your maps I would find much the same, so rather than making another list of most of the spots on the map, I suggest that you look a lot more carefully. I know it may be hard to see at first glance, but believe me it's definitely there. You have to look at the color. Don't just look for fog, as it won't always show up as what you think is fog. It should be very close to being the exact same color. So if you see color distortion, more than likely you will need to hit that spot again.

Livingston

Death Snapper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada - Toronto

The Little Nutters (PWN)

03 Sep 2006 at 06:23 - 969

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livingston

Congrats Dougal and Laila. ^_^

If you've read even the first page you should have seen Leighwyn's post directing you to the following thread:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10032479

He even has these huge arrows pointing to it. If you read that thread, you don't need to read all the pages in this thread, which was the point of creating the other thread.

Livingston
Yeah, that actually is what I was using to check up to this point. I checked your other thread but after reading the first post decided I probably should have read this one first (which, it turns out was a mistake lol). I read your thread and checked the often missed points and found it very helpful. Using it I found a few points and got to 98.7%, yet now I cant really find much. I am still missing maybe .1% in jade quarry, which I hope to get into again sometime lol (got pulled afk first time and missed a bit -_-)

I will relook the commonly missed zones again tomorrow when im not extremely tired, maybe I think I have something that I dont or something. Thanks for the help though, those places found almost .8% (I just found another place but my % didnt increase yet

)

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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03 Sep 2006 at 08:37 - 970

Quote:

Originally Posted by Death Snapper

Yeah, that actually is what I was using to check up to this point. I checked your other thread but after reading the first post decided I probably should have read this one first (which, it turns out was a mistake lol). I read your thread and checked the often missed points and found it very helpful. Using it I found a few points and got to 98.7%, yet now I cant really find much. I am still missing maybe .1% in jade quarry, which I hope to get into again sometime lol (got pulled afk first time and missed a bit -_-)

I will relook the commonly missed zones again tomorrow when im not extremely tired, maybe I think I have something that I dont or something. Thanks for the help though, those places found almost .8% (I just found another place but my % didnt increase yet

) No worries.

I took a look at part of your Kaineng map and this is what I saw with a quick check:

http://www.gothic-rose.net/Guildwars/Kaineng%202.jpg

3
6
7
10
14 (you need to look just east of the circle to see it)
15
Spot East of 15
16
17
19
20
22

Even though it looks like so many, and once again the other parts of your map will more than likely yield similar results, I think it may help a lot to have some of the spots pointed out so you know that you are definitely missing those spots beyond a doubt. That way you can pour over them and see exactly what it is that makes your spot different than a fully cleared spot. I think once you see the differences in a few, your eye will more readily pick them up, as you will know what you are looking for. For someone like me, Leighwyn, and Shyft, they just stick out like sore thumbs. I think it's sometimes hard for us to realize that other people's eyes simply aren't as trained to it as ours are.

Good luck.

Livingston

Exploding Arnzt

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

03 Sep 2006 at 09:07 - 971

I checked this spots in the Raisu Palace and in the Vizunah-Square Mission,they give me 0,2% got 98,9 now.

I will Check the Tahnakkai Tempel later,because i die with Henchies every time (damn Jade Brotherhood Knights -.-)

Edit: Did some Wall hugging in the Nahpui Quarter Area on the way to the Shenzun Tunnel and got exactly 99,0% now.
Edit: Did some Wall hugging near Keep Matuu and get another 0,1%, I'm @ 99,1% now.

I need some tipps for places where Wall hugging is important ;-)

Death Snapper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada - Toronto

The Little Nutters (PWN)

03 Sep 2006 at 18:26 - 972

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livingston

No worries.

I took a look at part of your Kaineng map and this is what I saw with a quick check:

http://www.gothic-rose.net/Guildwars/Kaineng%202.jpg

3
6
7
10
14 (you need to look just east of the circle to see it)
15
Spot East of 15
16
17
19
20
22

Even though it looks like so many, and once again the other parts of your map will more than likely yield similar results, I think it may help a lot to have some of the spots pointed out so you know that you are definitely missing those spots beyond a doubt. That way you can pour over them and see exactly what it is that makes your spot different than a fully cleared spot. I think once you see the differences in a few, your eye will more readily pick them up, as you will know what you are looking for. For someone like me, Leighwyn, and Shyft, they just stick out like sore thumbs. I think it's sometimes hard for us to realize that other people's eyes simply aren't as trained to it as ours are.

Good luck.

Livingston Thanks, after you pointed that out I put the zoom up a bit and it became very easy to notice exactly what I needed in those zones, up to 99% and still need to get a bit more in vizunah and a tiny bit in jade quarry. Never enough kurzicks for jade though lol

Edit: Also I am having some trouble getting Mount Qinkai #16 to its fullest, any tips? like where do I get it from or something? just cant seem to get close enough lol

Edit2: got to 99.1% and reedited my stitched map (was 98%), although I bet I screwed up one of the stitches again somewhere -_- anyways it can be located here if anyone need/would like to see it for any reason: http://filexoom.com/files/15336/99ma...one%20copy.jpg also if anyone sees anything that I have missed I would like to know

until then I search

ozbrat

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Canberra ACT Aust

Temple of Older Gamers

W/Mo

03 Sep 2006 at 21:35 - 973

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livingston

Let us know how you go with it.

It always amazes me how many people add an "e" to the end of my name. It's like some mass hysteria or something...

Yeah making slow progress at 98.4% atm. I have gone to using Photoshop and overlaying my screenshots on r's to find any differences, and I found some in areas on the island that I had thought I had gotten it all.

Again ty to everyone and sorry for the extra e

elLOCOmutha

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Ascalon City, Tyria

Free Agent

03 Sep 2006 at 21:51 - 974

Can anyone help me out with defogging suggestions on these two areas?

South of Shing Jea:

West of the village:

I just cant seem to find a path to defog these.
Thank you for any help.

Shyft the Pyro

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

NYC, USA

E/Mo

03 Sep 2006 at 21:59 - 975

Quote:

Originally Posted by elLOCOmutha

Can anyone help me out with defogging suggestions on these two areas?

South of Shing Jea:

This is the Monastery Overlook - the explorable area where all Canthan PvE characters start out. You can uncover it completely by following the training path when you first create the character. If you want to come back in, however, it gets more tricky. A Canthan character can only come back into Monastery Overlook for various "skill training" quests. A Tyrian character currently cannot enter the Monastery Overlook at all, and the only chance Tyrians ever had to map the area was during the Dragon Festival, when it housed multiple games. Tyrians who did uncover the area during the Dragon Festival won't have it show up as "Monastery Overlook" on their maps because they explored the area as an extension of whatever Shing Jea Monastery outpost district they were in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elLOCOmutha

West of the village:
This "mountain spot" west of Tsumei Village cannot be completely defogged. Your best bet is to shave off as much as you can by exploring the surrounding areas - Kinya Province, Panjiang Peninsula and Sunqua Vale.

elLOCOmutha

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Ascalon City, Tyria

Free Agent

03 Sep 2006 at 22:39 - 976

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro

Shyft the Pyro

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

NYC, USA

E/Mo

03 Sep 2006 at 22:59 - 977

Quote:

Originally Posted by elLOCOmutha

Thats a bummer, Anet should fix the area south of shing jea so tyrian toons can defog it. They did. Originally, Tyrian characters weren't allowed to access Shing Jea Island at all, meaning they were left about 20% short of the cartography title. After the update that allowed backtracking in both campaigns, ANet had to fix Shing Jea Arena as well because the guard refused to let Tyrian characters in.

Wobrak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Order of the BlackSheep

03 Sep 2006 at 23:41 - 978

Thanks for the use of the maps and helpful tips in this thread. I'm finally done!! (until Night Fall)

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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04 Sep 2006 at 03:40 - 979

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wobrak

Thanks for the use of the maps and helpful tips in this thread. I'm finally done!! (until Night Fall)

Congratulations!

Livingston

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

04 Sep 2006 at 06:36 - 980

Greetings My Fine Fellow Canthan Cartographers.

My Ritualist IGN River of Gold has hit the wall (though she's hugged it aplenty) at 98.9%

I have read this thread extensively, followed all tips and instructions, gone over all suggested areas, yet I can't seem to get any further.

I do know I have a little of Jade Quarry left, and I haven't got all of the Monastery Overlook and Shing Jea arena.

Pretty please with cherry on top, I would love if someone could go over my screenies and point out any places that I have missed.

Thank you berry mulchly!

JQ and FA
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s...pher/jqfa1.jpg

Kaineng
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s...r/kaineng1.jpg
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s...r/kaineng2.jpg
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s...r/kaineng3.jpg
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s...r/kaineng4.jpg
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s...r/kaineng5.jpg

Kurzick
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s...r/kurzick1.jpg
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s...r/kurzick2.jpg
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s...r/kurzick3.jpg
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s...r/kurzick4.jpg
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s...r/kurzick5.jpg

Luxon
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s...her/luxon1.jpg
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s...her/luxon2.jpg
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s...her/luxon3.jpg
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s...her/luxon4.jpg

Shing Jea
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s.../shingjea1.jpg
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s.../shingjea2.jpg
http://www.nzpwi.co.nz/home/images/s.../shingjea3.jpg

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/

04 Sep 2006 at 07:34 - 981

heh this is great. my major snag i've hit is because i can't find enough players to start the jade quarry mission . .. anyone willing to help out with this?

Taeron

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/W

04 Sep 2006 at 08:02 - 982

I had the same problem. I guess you'll need to try at different times of the day, there might be people around when you don't expect it

This PvP arena isn't very popular so focus on everything else you need for your map and get there when you have nothing to do just to see.
Oh and don't bother getting on EU servers, Jade Quarry is always desert out there...

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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04 Sep 2006 at 08:13 - 983

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar

If you have read this thread extensively, I hope that you have also read this thread as well: Thread

As per usual I don't have a whole lot of time to check maps, but I looked at your first one of Jade Quarry and then I checked your Shing Jea. Shing Jea seems to be an area in particular where people who have high % still need many areas in Shing Jea. I would guess that this is because they don't have as much experience in uncovering Canthan land at the stage that they are there, and I think people just assume that since it's the noob isle, that it's really easy to explore and clear. But that's definitely not the case. There were plenty of times that I thought I had Shing Jea clear and I still found spots I was missing, in fact this even happened after I did my guide. I still need to update my map with two spots I didn't fully clear - East of 3 and 24.

Any whoo, here's what I found:

Mount Qinkai

17
18
19

Shing Jea

1
4
5
11 (East of)
13
24
25

I know that you were aware of the ones in Jade Quarry, but to be missing 6 of the spots that I have circled in Shing Jea means that you could probably benefit from a second checking of the other areas I have marked on my maps.

If you do another check after seeing the differences in the ones I have just pointed out, you should find heaps more, if after that you get stuck again, then let us know and I'll help you find some more.

Also, I haven't looked at your other maps yet, but I wasn't able to check some parts of your Shing Jea map as you cut off bits of the water that you actually need to uncover, specifically in the NE area of the map. So you may want to repost that area with more of the water showing, and make sure none of your other maps cut parts off.

Good Luck!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enko

heh this is great. my major snag i've hit is because i can't find enough players to start the jade quarry mission . .. anyone willing to help out with this? I address this in post 3 of my thread, but as of yet, no one has taken me up on it.

Livingston

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/

04 Sep 2006 at 10:36 - 984

added you to friend's list. i will pm you once i see you on. ign: Li Devi and i'm on the american server.

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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04 Sep 2006 at 11:38 - 985