When I started the game around 12 months ago, I remember times when players were friendly and any profession could get into a group, people played for fun and exploring, etc. But after restarting PvE as of recent, I have noticed a decline in player friendlyness and sportsmanship.
Two examples in which to prove my point:
1. Around a week ago I was buying a couple of armor pieces at Droknars Forge. I saw a player asking where do I get Gladiator's Defence. I PMed him saying 'Facet of Strength in the Dragon's Lair.' He replied wheres that? I thought he might of forgot so I decided to party with him and map travel there. Unfortunatley I ended there by myself and to a PM why the f*** did you leave?
2. Yesterday I was helping a guildy cap Flourish in Mineral Springs. There were these other two players that were looking to skill cap also, so we decided to party with them. I thought great a monk and a warrior, hopefully we can cap these a little faster. As we walking outside, I soon discovered the warrior was using a Troll Farming Build and the monk was a 55. The monk and the warrior ran off and died on multiple occasions, I think they were on 60% DP while me and my friend were on around 4% Boost. We decided to tough it out with them. As soon as we hit the monk boss they capped and left. I smiled and thought to myself good game. I decided to PM them in hope of a response, all I got was XXXX is ignoring you. If they err=7'd fair enough but I think its rather selfish of them to do something like that. Despite them leaving we managed to cap all the elites we needed and had a decent time.
I'd like to know if anyone else has observed similar trends and what is one to do?
A general decline in the level of player sportsmanship/friendlyness
Druids Arrow
Vermilion Okeanos
Honestly, it is like this every online English game (can't say for other culture, since I haven't play any online game that is not english) I had played.
First began, everyone is a noob and hence, appreciated each other's thought. While that, everyone had to work together to beat the mission they had never beat before.
Then as a year pass, people are tired of the same thing over and over, hence always look for way to exploit things. They not only look for exploit within the game, but also exploit on people. As you had been into better teams, you can rate the later team as worse than before, which add onto furstration.
Usually within a community of an organized guild, you can avoid such. That's what they are for =/
First began, everyone is a noob and hence, appreciated each other's thought. While that, everyone had to work together to beat the mission they had never beat before.
Then as a year pass, people are tired of the same thing over and over, hence always look for way to exploit things. They not only look for exploit within the game, but also exploit on people. As you had been into better teams, you can rate the later team as worse than before, which add onto furstration.
Usually within a community of an organized guild, you can avoid such. That's what they are for =/
ChaoticCoyote
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When I started the game around 12 months ago, I remember times when players were friendly and any profession could get into a group, people played for fun and exploring, etc. But after restarting PvE as of recent, I have noticed a decline in player friendlyness and sportsmanship.
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Oh, there are plenty of jerks, and I think the quality of cooperative PvP is dropping -- but overall, it's a good group of people.
That said...
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1. Around a week ago I was buying a couple of armor pieces at Droknars Forge. I saw a player asking where do I get Gladiator's Defence. I PMed him saying 'Facet of Strength in the Dragon's Lair.' He replied wheres that? I thought he might of forgot so I decided to party with him and map travel there. Unfortunatley I ended there by myself and to a PM why the f*** did you leave?
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2. Yesterday I was helping a guildy cap Flourish in Mineral Springs. There were these other two players that were looking to skill cap also, so we decided to party with them. I thought great a monk and a warrior, hopefully we can cap these a little faster. As we walking outside, I soon discovered the warrior was using a Troll Farming Build and the monk was a 55. The monk and the warrior ran off and died on multiple occasions, I think they were on 60% DP while me and my friend were on around 4% Boost. We decided to tough it out with them. As soon as we hit the monk boss they capped and left. I smiled and thought to myself good game. I decided to PM them in hope of a response, all I got was XXXX is ignoring you. If they err=7'd fair enough but I think its rather selfish of them to do something like that. Despite them leaving we managed to cap all the elites we needed and had a decent time.
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Those of us who think differently need to lead by example, both in Guild Wars and in the Real World.
alchohol
It's "Just not cricket" anymore.
Unfortunately, good game etiquette and fairplay is on the decline. I'm not saying it's gone, just underlining it's on the decline.
Usually it's younger players who for whatever reason, have lacked a code of coduct to follow. If a child is taught good values he'll carry them on into adulthood. Also look at the lack of good role models in sport nowadays.
We can help reverse the trend by being a better role model. Guilds should have a code of conduct for players to follow. That means watching our language, having respect for others, winning well, losing well. Being a good sport and playing fair...even though it might cost us to do so.
Having a good name and reputation, and losing well (ie congratulating the winners, acknowledging good play, etc), beats a cheap win with bad atittude, always.
I've always found good sports to be far happier people, who really enjoy the game. They're great to be around also.
Unfortunately, good game etiquette and fairplay is on the decline. I'm not saying it's gone, just underlining it's on the decline.
Usually it's younger players who for whatever reason, have lacked a code of coduct to follow. If a child is taught good values he'll carry them on into adulthood. Also look at the lack of good role models in sport nowadays.
We can help reverse the trend by being a better role model. Guilds should have a code of conduct for players to follow. That means watching our language, having respect for others, winning well, losing well. Being a good sport and playing fair...even though it might cost us to do so.
Having a good name and reputation, and losing well (ie congratulating the winners, acknowledging good play, etc), beats a cheap win with bad atittude, always.
I've always found good sports to be far happier people, who really enjoy the game. They're great to be around also.
Vahn Roi
Treat it as it is; a game.
You'll find that if you can keep that mentality, you're stress level will be much lower.
I would imagine people are more rude online becuase they know they don't have to worry about the person they are mouthing off to coming and beating the living daylights out of them :P
You'll find that if you can keep that mentality, you're stress level will be much lower.
I would imagine people are more rude online becuase they know they don't have to worry about the person they are mouthing off to coming and beating the living daylights out of them :P
fb2000
it always was like this and it always will be to be honest..
the only answer i have is, fill up ur friendlist/guild with nice people and play only with them.. sounds nazi, but its the best solution to me
the only answer i have is, fill up ur friendlist/guild with nice people and play only with them.. sounds nazi, but its the best solution to me
alchohol
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Treat it as it is; a game.
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I've always said these type of interactive games are a true revealer of character. They can bring out the best or the worse in you.
It can help you change what you dislike about yourself...or it can destroy you.
Demesis
When you have a game that costs only $60 to play, you're gonna get 10 year old kids, hormonal teenagers, and pissed off nerds.
Unlike other games which requires a monthly fee, you don't see these people because they cannot find the money in their allowance to play such games. In effect, these games are populated by mature responsible adults.
Runescape is a wonderful example of a free game populated by assholes.
In WoW, I find that it's quite rare to see people like that... Which is quite a shame. If GW wants to compete with WoW, they are going to have to do much more than declare itself free of a monthly fee.
This brings me to my next point, Anet doesn't give a rat's ass about people like these. So if Anet doesn't care, why should I?
Oh wait, let me summarize my post:
Deal with it.
Unlike other games which requires a monthly fee, you don't see these people because they cannot find the money in their allowance to play such games. In effect, these games are populated by mature responsible adults.
Runescape is a wonderful example of a free game populated by assholes.
In WoW, I find that it's quite rare to see people like that... Which is quite a shame. If GW wants to compete with WoW, they are going to have to do much more than declare itself free of a monthly fee.
This brings me to my next point, Anet doesn't give a rat's ass about people like these. So if Anet doesn't care, why should I?
Oh wait, let me summarize my post:
Deal with it.
ChaoticCoyote
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When you have a game that costs only $60 to play, you're gonna get 10 year old kids, hormonal teenagers, and pissed off nerds.
Unlike other games which requires a monthly fee, you don't see these people because they cannot find the money in their allowance to play such games. In effect, these games are populated by mature responsible adults. |
WoW has a monthly fee, and it is populated by a collection of social rejects who should embarress that entire community.
Play a little WoW, and GW will seem like the friendliest place on Earth.
WasAGuest
The decline is all over. I remember CTF in games like Quake 2 where when your team lost it was considered proper and polite to tell the other team "good game" and often a rematch would follow shortly after. These days, it's drop from the game so your "ladder score" isn't effected.
I've been in so many bad PuGs where people run off to uncover the map then leave without so much as a word. Other times, the player does something silly and gets killed only to begin cursing and screaming at the rest of the group.
And lets not forget the afkers and leechers in Jade and Aspen. No fair play there or politeness; just looking out for themselves and a free ride.
These very boards are rife with people who are quick to judge and call others names "Whiners", "complainers" and so on. And those being called names are often just making simple (in their minds anyway) suggestions to make the game better. Good chances are, these people emailed Anet and Anet told them to post here... and name calling is what they get.
I've been in so many bad PuGs where people run off to uncover the map then leave without so much as a word. Other times, the player does something silly and gets killed only to begin cursing and screaming at the rest of the group.
And lets not forget the afkers and leechers in Jade and Aspen. No fair play there or politeness; just looking out for themselves and a free ride.
These very boards are rife with people who are quick to judge and call others names "Whiners", "complainers" and so on. And those being called names are often just making simple (in their minds anyway) suggestions to make the game better. Good chances are, these people emailed Anet and Anet told them to post here... and name calling is what they get.
Zephro
Hench groups ftw.
wilebill
Depends on the WoW realm, I guess, but to me the GW community is no worse than the WoW community ... no better either.
Loviatar
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not from what ive seen(from a sane distance)
Big_Iron
Honestly, I see the same amount of jerks as has been for the last 12 mos I've been playing. There's always a few. Sometimes they just stand out more than the "good" players. Two bad experiences don't lead to Armageddon.
dreamhunk
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Originally Posted by Druids Arrow
When I started the game around 12 months ago, I remember times when players were friendly and any profession could get into a group, people played for fun and exploring, etc. But after restarting PvE as of recent, I have noticed a decline in player friendlyness and sportsmanship.
Two examples in which to prove my point: 1. Around a week ago I was buying a couple of armor pieces at Droknars Forge. I saw a player asking where do I get Gladiator's Defence. I PMed him saying 'Facet of Strength in the Dragon's Lair.' He replied wheres that? I thought he might of forgot so I decided to party with him and map travel there. Unfortunatley I ended there by myself and to a PM why the f*** did you leave? 2. Yesterday I was helping a guildy cap Flourish in Mineral Springs. There were these other two players that were looking to skill cap also, so we decided to party with them. I thought great a monk and a warrior, hopefully we can cap these a little faster. As we walking outside, I soon discovered the warrior was using a Troll Farming Build and the monk was a 55. The monk and the warrior ran off and died on multiple occasions, I think they were on 60% DP while me and my friend were on around 4% Boost. We decided to tough it out with them. As soon as we hit the monk boss they capped and left. I smiled and thought to myself good game. I decided to PM them in hope of a response, all I got was XXXX is ignoring you. If they err=7'd fair enough but I think its rather selfish of them to do something like that. Despite them leaving we managed to cap all the elites we needed and had a decent time. I'd like to know if anyone else has observed similar trends and what is one to do? |
Kook~NBK~
I don't think the problem has gotten worse. There were jerks in the beginning, and there are jerks now (many of them the same person). but I think the level of jerkiness is a bit exaggerated. I've been playing in PUGs quite a bit lately & I've only run into one or two people that I'd call a jerk.
To deal with a jerk, just ignore 'em. Don't respond to their BS & use that special feature incorporated into the game. The thing about the ignore list people don't realize is that in most cases, you don't need to keep a person on it for more than a few days - usually the ignored have moved on to being ajerk to someone else.
To deal with the problem of jerkiness in the game:
1. Don't BE one!
2. Use common Courtesy - say "please" and "thank you"
3. Don't TELL people how to play their character. ASK them what they're playing and ASK them if they would bring a particular skill(s). (remembering tip #2)
4. In case of mission failure - it's not good to break out the name-calling & blaming crap. It's better to not say anything at all and just go find another party. It's BEST to say "Ah, well - we gave it a good shot. Better luck next time."
5. In case of mission success, stick around long enough to say "GGA - thanks" type things.
6. When you see someone asking a question, politely answer it - if you know the answer. This will help take away the chance for the jerks in town to pop their ugly heads with their "OMFG -what a noob! doesn't even know _____" garbage.
To deal with a jerk, just ignore 'em. Don't respond to their BS & use that special feature incorporated into the game. The thing about the ignore list people don't realize is that in most cases, you don't need to keep a person on it for more than a few days - usually the ignored have moved on to being ajerk to someone else.
To deal with the problem of jerkiness in the game:
1. Don't BE one!
2. Use common Courtesy - say "please" and "thank you"
3. Don't TELL people how to play their character. ASK them what they're playing and ASK them if they would bring a particular skill(s). (remembering tip #2)
4. In case of mission failure - it's not good to break out the name-calling & blaming crap. It's better to not say anything at all and just go find another party. It's BEST to say "Ah, well - we gave it a good shot. Better luck next time."
5. In case of mission success, stick around long enough to say "GGA - thanks" type things.
6. When you see someone asking a question, politely answer it - if you know the answer. This will help take away the chance for the jerks in town to pop their ugly heads with their "OMFG -what a noob! doesn't even know _____" garbage.
MrScaRy
there are jerks around, scammers around... its a given... its similar to real life, there are asshats and there are robbers... but there are also a lot of nice polite people around.
i've been trading around recently and a lot of people end the trade with "ty" or "tyvm" etc and its nice..
i've been trading around recently and a lot of people end the trade with "ty" or "tyvm" etc and its nice..
Big_Iron
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there are jerks around, scammers around... its a given... its similar to real life, there are asshats and there are robbers... but there are also a lot of nice polite people around.
i've been trading around recently and a lot of people end the trade with "ty" or "tyvm" etc and its nice.. |
Helios
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I would agree with you I was around since beta and people were alot more fun to play when game fisrt started.
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As far as the decline in respect, I think most other games go through this. I know some people will say, "well join a guild and make new friends," but this isn't everyone's cup of tea. There's a good and bad to being/not being in a guild. Unfortunately, as someone else put it, we must learn to deal with it and also lead by example.
Alias_X
There are jerks in real life, there are jerks in game. There is nothing we can do about it, and if Guild Wars was jerk free, it would be pretty bland.
Ken Dei
This is the eternal journey of the chivalrous and the moral. We wander the planes of virtual exsistance looking for a bastion stronger then the last in an attempt to hold out against the equally mobile forces of grief and anguish.
Translation:
The decent players of games tend to come to a game first and play to the best of their ability. Shortly thereafter however, the enemy finds the most effective ways to be intolerable. Ignoring the problem doesn't work, it never has and never will.
So the decent players talk to their buddies and search around. Then when the next big game opens up, they move on to greener pastures and do their best to enjoy themselves before the minions of immaturity follow.
Descriptions such as "Little Kids" and "Hormonal Teenagers" are only spewed by the ignorant. I have found, from experience, that the real spawning grounds for these people are FPS. I'm not saying ALL FPS players are this way, but the sociological structure there is based on pure competition, therefore, the majority of FPS players have real attitude issues that they carry over to other games.
Translation:
The decent players of games tend to come to a game first and play to the best of their ability. Shortly thereafter however, the enemy finds the most effective ways to be intolerable. Ignoring the problem doesn't work, it never has and never will.
So the decent players talk to their buddies and search around. Then when the next big game opens up, they move on to greener pastures and do their best to enjoy themselves before the minions of immaturity follow.
Descriptions such as "Little Kids" and "Hormonal Teenagers" are only spewed by the ignorant. I have found, from experience, that the real spawning grounds for these people are FPS. I'm not saying ALL FPS players are this way, but the sociological structure there is based on pure competition, therefore, the majority of FPS players have real attitude issues that they carry over to other games.
The Real Roy Keane
I think alot of GW players could do with some time on a sports team to learn a bit of discipline and respect towards others- you take out all your aggression during the match, and play to your best, but afterwards everyone shakes hands and says '
good game.' Anyone who shouted an inanity like '
lawl, pwnt n00b!1!!1!,' or the real world equivelant, would get a swift smack off a teammate and told to shut his mouth.
good game.' Anyone who shouted an inanity like '
lawl, pwnt n00b!1!!1!,' or the real world equivelant, would get a swift smack off a teammate and told to shut his mouth.
Snograt
I just had to laugh reading that, "Real" !
I can imagine in the glory days of Roy Keane if any of the kids in the United side had done it.
"Button it, ye gobshite!"
THWACK!
hehehe
I can imagine in the glory days of Roy Keane if any of the kids in the United side had done it.
"Button it, ye gobshite!"
THWACK!
hehehe
Andy_M
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Hench groups ftw.
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XvArchonvX
There have been and always will be a-holes.
There has been no increase nor decrease in such.
The only deviation is that of your perception and general experience.
There has been no increase nor decrease in such.
The only deviation is that of your perception and general experience.
Isileth
It is a problem. It is getting worse. Is it Anets fault? No way. You cant expect them to punish little kids just because their parents are to lazy to teach them some common manners. Its the age we live in where 'Chavs' and 'yobs' who have no respect for society think that its ok to ruin stuff for others. However i dsilike the fact that people instantly jump to teenagers as the problem. I do accept that most of these people will be of the younger generation but that does not mean they all are nor does it mean all teenagers are as moronic as them. I myself am a teenager. I was however lucky enough to have a decent family that told me to say please and thank you. As far as im concerned im a better person for it.
The fact is these people get enjoyment out of others missery. If that means scamming, insulting, cheating whatever they will do it. Why they enjoy such a thing is beyond me but they do.
The fact is these people get enjoyment out of others missery. If that means scamming, insulting, cheating whatever they will do it. Why they enjoy such a thing is beyond me but they do.
Zimba
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Hench groups ftw.
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Eviance
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I have played Anarchy Online for a few years and i loved the ARK's which are longtime paying customers who have volunteerd to help/moderate/solve disputes for other players.
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Honestly that would be a great idea... I mean some "try" but usually end up slapped in the face for it. If they were given something "official" to make them stand out as mods they would be taken more seriously and it would take a lot of pressure off other people trying to find PUGs when they would prefer to just hench it but can't... =/
Also it would keep those kids coming from presear from getting jerked around to badly. I think they should concider it!
Shinigami God
It's a problem, but you gotta deal with it. There's idiots out there, but for each idiot there's at least 5 more nice people. I've played in games where hacking was a major problem and it was very simple, thus causing mass paranoia about hacked and "duped" items, so I was very glad when I found the extremely low amount of cheating in GW. I have a lot of nice friends in my guild, so maybe that makes it easier, but all in all GW is just peachy compared to many other online games. Put simply, the Nice person:Asshat ratio is much better in GW than it is in real life :/
Vincaro
As far as any class getting into a group, the majority of players (Especially the cocky ones that don't know their own small worth) have the false idea that there's only a few set builds that can ever be any good and set groups that will work. They lack the creativity to find a good new builds. Like me, I found My new Earth ele build that I do far better with than I ever did with my Nuker... I can Tank with an ELE for crying out loud, not that I try to but I have the equivelent of 82 def. armor. I also have an Idea for a Ranger/Rit build... That's all I'm going to say about that though.
The other thing is really no matter what the group is made up of, if all the players are good the group will do good. I beat the Ring Of Fire mission and bonus with a group of 7 warriors only 4 W/Mo, and myself as a barrage/pet ranger. No monk at all.
The other thing is really no matter what the group is made up of, if all the players are good the group will do good. I beat the Ring Of Fire mission and bonus with a group of 7 warriors only 4 W/Mo, and myself as a barrage/pet ranger. No monk at all.
Former Ruling
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As far as any class getting into a group, the majority of players (Especially the cocky ones that don't know their own small worth) have the false idea that there's only a few set builds that can ever be any good and set groups that will work. They lack the creativity to find a good new builds. Like me, I found My new Earth ele build that I do far better with than I ever did with my Nuker... I can Tank with an ELE for crying out loud, not that I try to but I have the equivelent of 82 def. armor. I also have an Idea for a Ranger/Rit build... That's all I'm going to say about that though.
The other thing is really no matter what the group is made up of, if all the players are good the group will do good. I beat the Ring Of Fire mission and bonus with a group of 7 warriors only 4 W/Mo, and myself as a barrage/pet ranger. No monk at all. |
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Anyway, I mirror how people act to me.
I can be the biggest jerk/griefer in the game, and I also help new players.
Thorinfire
/ignore
I use that a lot if I get into a group with arseholes, then never group with them again.
And lately henchies keep looking better and better...........................
I use that a lot if I get into a group with arseholes, then never group with them again.
And lately henchies keep looking better and better...........................
Mr Wolfmaster
Unfortunatly since guild wars is a team based game and hench can't always get you through, you do have to get into parties. I agree there has been a decline in the community as of late but with a non-monthly fee game kids are free to roam around and act like idiots all the time. I think that's another issue, since guild wars is so easy to play comparing to othrer MMORPGs, there's no real since of loyalty or maturity of players. Yes I relize you'll get jerks and little kids in every game but it seems to be rampaging in guild wars even more. Not like this can be fixed though :/ (Unless hench are buffed ^_^)
Viruzzz
i will bet the guy was trying to make a farming build.. glad's defense is useless for anything else really...
too bad he actually has to go do 4 missions before he can get it.. i feel so sorry for him (not really)
the comunity is a lot better than in some other games, but it is definitely heading the wrong way :/
too bad he actually has to go do 4 missions before he can get it.. i feel so sorry for him (not really)
the comunity is a lot better than in some other games, but it is definitely heading the wrong way :/
Demesis
There's a reason why the "Biggest Jerk" thread has been so far, the biggest thread I've seen.
I don't care, you don't care, Anet doesn't care and most certainly everyone posting here doesn't care. Your thread isn't going to do squat to improve the GW community because nobody gives a damn.
How I solved the problem is that I gave up on the GW community. That's right, I gave up on the humanity of the game. I stopped caring and I pretty do anything, anywhere to whoever I want in the game. How did I do it? Well of course, I know that 99% of the people there are asshats. So I don't feel bad if I scam/ragequit/scold/insult some unfortunate n00b. Chances are, he's already a jerk or he's going to turn into a jerk anyway with or without my abuse.
So why bother? Why waste your time trying to reason/be nice with someone over the internet who probably doesn't even have the mental capacity to open a banana?
Jeez, you guys aern't superheroes, you aern't going to save anyone from anything, especially from the GW community. You either deal with it like I did, or you should go off and play Oblivion, where the NPC's somehow have parents who are able to teach them politeness and manners.
I don't care, you don't care, Anet doesn't care and most certainly everyone posting here doesn't care. Your thread isn't going to do squat to improve the GW community because nobody gives a damn.
How I solved the problem is that I gave up on the GW community. That's right, I gave up on the humanity of the game. I stopped caring and I pretty do anything, anywhere to whoever I want in the game. How did I do it? Well of course, I know that 99% of the people there are asshats. So I don't feel bad if I scam/ragequit/scold/insult some unfortunate n00b. Chances are, he's already a jerk or he's going to turn into a jerk anyway with or without my abuse.
So why bother? Why waste your time trying to reason/be nice with someone over the internet who probably doesn't even have the mental capacity to open a banana?
Jeez, you guys aern't superheroes, you aern't going to save anyone from anything, especially from the GW community. You either deal with it like I did, or you should go off and play Oblivion, where the NPC's somehow have parents who are able to teach them politeness and manners.
Klmpee
This game had friendly people 12 months ago? i dont recall that
i dont recall that
Whiplashr
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There's a reason why the "Biggest Jerk" thread has been so far, the biggest thread I've seen.
I don't care, you don't care, Anet doesn't care and most certainly everyone posting here doesn't care. Your thread isn't going to do squat to improve the GW community because nobody gives a damn. How I solved the problem is that I gave up on the GW community. That's right, I gave up on the humanity of the game. I stopped caring and I pretty do anything, anywhere to whoever I want in the game. How did I do it? Well of course, I know that 99% of the people there are asshats. So I don't feel bad if I scam/ragequit/scold/insult some unfortunate n00b. Chances are, he's already a jerk or he's going to turn into a jerk anyway with or without my abuse. |
lg5000
In defence to those 13 and under whom we as a community like to lable as immature and the root of the problem when it comes to stupitidy and rudeness... I have a 10yr old in my household who plays, the worst he does is put some rather interesting builds together.. not that different from what I'm experiencing with what I figure are older players though... but.. doesn't show the immaturity that we like to whinge about.
Makes me wonder if we're labeling younger people the wrong way, maybe it's the older ones that are immature and plain stupid, not the younger ones?
Oh yeah, in regards to how I know he hasn't made the immature remarks being discussed earlier.. one of the slots on his account is my character and I deal with his guild on a regular basis.. word gets back to me if he acts up
Makes me wonder if we're labeling younger people the wrong way, maybe it's the older ones that are immature and plain stupid, not the younger ones?
Oh yeah, in regards to how I know he hasn't made the immature remarks being discussed earlier.. one of the slots on his account is my character and I deal with his guild on a regular basis.. word gets back to me if he acts up
Demesis
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Originally Posted by lg5000
In defence to those 13 and under whom we as a community like to lable as immature and the root of the problem when it comes to stupitidy and rudeness... I have a 10yr old in my household who plays, the worst he does is put some rather interesting builds together.. not that different from what I'm experiencing with what I figure are older players though... but.. doesn't show the immaturity that we like to whinge about.
Makes me wonder if we're labeling younger people the wrong way, maybe it's the older ones that are immature and plain stupid, not the younger ones? Oh yeah, in regards to how I know he hasn't made the immature remarks being discussed earlier.. one of the slots on his account is my character and I deal with his guild on a regular basis.. word gets back to me if he acts up |
lg5000
Demesis, what if it's people like you who give the young ones a bad rep? I don't know you, I don't know what or how you play, but I can make assumptions just as easily as you can.