New Titles: Charmed/Hapless
KamikazeChicken
I'm sitting steady on ~200 tickets playing the center circle of the 9 ring game. I'm probably going to buy another stack of tickets to afk the rest of the night, but there hasn't really been any form of ticket decay.
Lonk
Ok that sucked, i just bought 400 tickets for exactly 1.6k from the ticket seller, hoping to play the 9 rings game for a bit, i was on the middle ring maybe 10-15 seconds before i noticed i was suddenly down to 173 or so tickets, and when i highlighted them it said i could sell those tickets to merchant for a profit of around 1.2k.
I figure I'll go get some prizes with the tickets I got, when i get to the prize guy suddenly my tickets are at 100 now, I try to get prizes anyways and only get 2, with exactly 24 tickets left over.
This game's math is just plain wrong, I guess I stumbled onto some sort of bug with tickets and im not entirely thrilled i found it.
I figure I'll go get some prizes with the tickets I got, when i get to the prize guy suddenly my tickets are at 100 now, I try to get prizes anyways and only get 2, with exactly 24 tickets left over.
This game's math is just plain wrong, I guess I stumbled onto some sort of bug with tickets and im not entirely thrilled i found it.
Cash
that avatar ..... has to be the most disturbing thing ive seen this week ....
dunno exactly what happened there, but i can point out one thing i noticed when buying tickets. you can only buy 250 at a time. if you type in 250 it should show 3.75k to buy. i typed in 999 the second time and noticed it still showed 3.75k but when i clicked to buy, it only sold me 250 tix.
may not be relavent, but i figured id throw it out there.
dunno exactly what happened there, but i can point out one thing i noticed when buying tickets. you can only buy 250 at a time. if you type in 250 it should show 3.75k to buy. i typed in 999 the second time and noticed it still showed 3.75k but when i clicked to buy, it only sold me 250 tix.
may not be relavent, but i figured id throw it out there.
Former Ruling
I stayed on the CEnter Ring of 9 Ring Game for ~3 hours.
Started with ~300 tickets.
When I just checked it, I was down to 170 tickets.
I assume Within 3 more hours I would have been completely out.
The decay on the center ring is very slow - but it does decay.
Started with ~300 tickets.
When I just checked it, I was down to 170 tickets.
I assume Within 3 more hours I would have been completely out.
The decay on the center ring is very slow - but it does decay.
Juicey Shake
@ Lonk: you probably typed in 400 but only bought 106 for the 1.6k you prob. had in yer inv..
I've been in middle ring for a while lost maybe 40 tickets.
won 7,693 tickets and lost 401 games
I did spend about 1 hr on a corner tho.
I've been in middle ring for a while lost maybe 40 tickets.
won 7,693 tickets and lost 401 games
I did spend about 1 hr on a corner tho.
Swinging Fists
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@ Lonk: you probably typed in 400 but only bought 106 for the 1.6k you prob. had in yer inv..
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Also, for all the mathematical anayses, I agree that the corners of the 9 circle game will yield the titles quickest. HOWEVER, what about those of us on a budget that have plenty of AFK time to invest. The 9 circle game costs 10 tickets, whereas the 16 circle game only takes 2 at a time. It seems to me, that the 16 circle game, which not losing 5,000 as rapidly as the 9 circle game, would accomplish it much cheaper. As for the Lucky title, I think the 9 circle game is still probably the way to go since it is tickets won, not games. Is this accurate and would someone like to run the numbers on the economics of getting the Lucky title on the two games ?
Juicey Shake
@Swinging Fists: he said he spent 1.6k tho hence the 106, it's always been that you can't buy more than 2 50 of something from a merchant at once..
Witchblade
huh guys, the tech is pretty clear but, we have only 5 days :/
Juicey Shake
So? After about.. what, 2, 3 hours? I'm at 8,973 tickets won.
Saint Troy
I've only been going for about an hour and 10 minutes ...
Centre ring of the 9 group ...
4160 tickets won, and 173 games lost
Centre ring of the 9 group ...
4160 tickets won, and 173 games lost
Ecksor
i bought about 650 tickets 45 mins ago. Im at 772 now lol and ive just been sitting on the middle ring. 1,1335 tickets won, and 45 games lost. Well im gonna go to sleep. that's a good 8 hours afk on the ring right there lol. Then once i get my titles i get to trade for prizes :-D I shall get orbs and cash, and as one guy was trying to tell me earlier, minipets lawl
Mercury Angel
The numbers on both are done for that:
944 tickets won out of 1,000 tickets spent (100 games of nine circles) vs 937.5 tickets won out of 1,000 tickets spent (333 1/3rd games of sixteen circles). The odds are just marginally skewed in favour of Nine Circles.
Some other numbers:
Average games of Nine Circles to get Charmed title: 5,297
Average ticket investment required to play 5,297 games (Remember, you win 50,000 on average) : 2,970
Cost of 2,970 tickets : 44,550 gold, or, about 45 platinum
Average losses playing in the corner (best nine circle location): 3,498
Average games of Sixteen Circles to get Charmed title: 26667
Average ticket investment required to play: 3,334
Cost of 3,125 tickets : 50,010 gold, or about 50 platinum
Average losses : 15000
Most efficient method of getting both titles:
4605 rounds of Nine Circles - 3039 losses (corner), 43471 tickets won
3486 rounds of Sixteen Circles - 1961 losses, 6536 tickets won
Average ticket investment: 3,025
Cost of 3,025 tickets: 45,375 gold, or about 45 platinum
Average losses: 5,000
Average tickets won: 50,007
Total rounds: 8,091
(For comparison, an average of 7,576 rounds to complete 5,000 losses with all Nine Circles play, in the corner, at a 66% loss rate.)
It's a bit late at night, if anyone wants to correct any of the math, be my guest. I've probably made a few errors here and there x_X
944 tickets won out of 1,000 tickets spent (100 games of nine circles) vs 937.5 tickets won out of 1,000 tickets spent (333 1/3rd games of sixteen circles). The odds are just marginally skewed in favour of Nine Circles.
Some other numbers:
Average games of Nine Circles to get Charmed title: 5,297
Average ticket investment required to play 5,297 games (Remember, you win 50,000 on average) : 2,970
Cost of 2,970 tickets : 44,550 gold, or, about 45 platinum
Average losses playing in the corner (best nine circle location): 3,498
Average games of Sixteen Circles to get Charmed title: 26667
Average ticket investment required to play: 3,334
Cost of 3,125 tickets : 50,010 gold, or about 50 platinum
Average losses : 15000
Most efficient method of getting both titles:
4605 rounds of Nine Circles - 3039 losses (corner), 43471 tickets won
3486 rounds of Sixteen Circles - 1961 losses, 6536 tickets won
Average ticket investment: 3,025
Cost of 3,025 tickets: 45,375 gold, or about 45 platinum
Average losses: 5,000
Average tickets won: 50,007
Total rounds: 8,091
(For comparison, an average of 7,576 rounds to complete 5,000 losses with all Nine Circles play, in the corner, at a 66% loss rate.)
It's a bit late at night, if anyone wants to correct any of the math, be my guest. I've probably made a few errors here and there x_X
Ecksor
i didnt really get any of what you just posted Mercury, so ill just say Good Job and go to sleep NOW lol
Avarre
So why is there an afk grind title?
Still fun though
Still fun though
Jedimagician
about 15000 tickets won
1000 lost
30k spent
about 1k tickets left
ATM
1000 lost
30k spent
about 1k tickets left
ATM
ecto bomb
10,500 (approx.) Won
700 (approx.) Lost
900 (approx.) Tickets left.
Doing pretty good :P
700 (approx.) Lost
900 (approx.) Tickets left.
Doing pretty good :P
Witchblade
/finger crossing
pls no rank2
pls no rank2
Sweetest
Code:
Middle
1;00 - 11,255 /746
1:15 - 12,140 /784
885 / 38
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Corner
1:16 - 12,155 /785
1:31 - 12,990 /851
835 / 66
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Side
1:32 - 13,035 /854
1:47 - 13,855 /905
820 / 51
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Middle
1:48 - 13,910 /908
2:03 - 14,615 /957
705 / 49
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Corner
2:04 - 14,730 /959
2:19 - 15,435 /1019
705 / 60
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Side
2:21 - 15,620 / 1025
2:36 - 16,395 / 1077
775 / 52
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Corner
2:37 - 16,440 / 1081
3:37 - 19,925 / 1320
3485 / 239
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Middle
3:37 - 19,925/ 1321
4:37 - 23,360/ 1482
3,435/ 161
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Side
4:41 - 23,675/ 1496
5:41 -
Middle(5) Average = 3308/ 158 /Hour
Corner(3) Average = 3383/ 246 / Hour
Side (6) Average = 3190/ 206 / Hour
Dyeane
Lets see. My first stack is gone, and Im 98 up on my second. 6,775/453, standing in a corner in 9.
Juicey Shake
ty sweetest, looks like I'll stay afking in middle until 50k then going to 16 square to lose my heart out.
skyfox
if you play a large enough amount of games here are the calculated results:
on the 3x3 board:
you get 9.444... tickets per play - 1 game costs 10 tickets -> you loose 0.555... tickets per play
it doesnt matter where you are standing!
on the 4x4 board:
you get 1.875 tickets per play - 1 game costs 2 tickets -> you loose 0.125 tickets per play
it doesnt matter where you are standing!
-> bank always wins!
if you play the games for earning titles, which is the only good reason to play them:
if you loose 5000 games you earn the hapless title:
on the 3x3 board:
center: your chance of loosing is 4/9 -> you need approx.11250 games
side: your chance of loosing is 5/9 -> you need approx. 9000 games
edge: your chance of loosing is 6/9 -> you need approx. 7500 games
on the 4x4 board:
all fields: your chance of loosing is 9/16 -> you need approx. 8889 games
if you win 50000 tickets you earn the charmed title:
on the 3x3 board:
you need approx. 5295 games to earn 50000 tickets
it doesnt matter where you are standing!
on the 4x4 board:
you need approx. 26667 games to earn 50000 tickets
it doesnt matter where you are standing!
if you want both titles, here is the cheapest way to get them:
play on the 4x4 board - you should play approx. 26667 games - to play this amount of games you need around 3334 tickets - which will cost you 50k gold - and it will take around 74 hours time!!!
if you want both titles, here is the fastest way to get them:
play on the edge of the 3x3 board - you should play approx. 7500 games - to play this amount of games you need around 4167 tickets - which will cost you 62.5k gold - and it will take around 21 hours time!!!
hope that helps and greetings,
skyfox
p.s.: excuse my english and correct me if i made a mistake
on the 3x3 board:
you get 9.444... tickets per play - 1 game costs 10 tickets -> you loose 0.555... tickets per play
it doesnt matter where you are standing!
on the 4x4 board:
you get 1.875 tickets per play - 1 game costs 2 tickets -> you loose 0.125 tickets per play
it doesnt matter where you are standing!
-> bank always wins!
if you play the games for earning titles, which is the only good reason to play them:
if you loose 5000 games you earn the hapless title:
on the 3x3 board:
center: your chance of loosing is 4/9 -> you need approx.11250 games
side: your chance of loosing is 5/9 -> you need approx. 9000 games
edge: your chance of loosing is 6/9 -> you need approx. 7500 games
on the 4x4 board:
all fields: your chance of loosing is 9/16 -> you need approx. 8889 games
if you win 50000 tickets you earn the charmed title:
on the 3x3 board:
you need approx. 5295 games to earn 50000 tickets
it doesnt matter where you are standing!
on the 4x4 board:
you need approx. 26667 games to earn 50000 tickets
it doesnt matter where you are standing!
if you want both titles, here is the cheapest way to get them:
play on the 4x4 board - you should play approx. 26667 games - to play this amount of games you need around 3334 tickets - which will cost you 50k gold - and it will take around 74 hours time!!!
if you want both titles, here is the fastest way to get them:
play on the edge of the 3x3 board - you should play approx. 7500 games - to play this amount of games you need around 4167 tickets - which will cost you 62.5k gold - and it will take around 21 hours time!!!
hope that helps and greetings,
skyfox
p.s.: excuse my english and correct me if i made a mistake
CorstedPirate
Has anyone managed to get these titles yet, or are all the figures based upon speculation?
It would be lovely to know if they apply to the title KoaBD, regardless I kinda want those titles. Just for the humor of having Hapless under my name. Charmed Hapless Drunk, that has so much appeal to me.
It would be lovely to know if they apply to the title KoaBD, regardless I kinda want those titles. Just for the humor of having Hapless under my name. Charmed Hapless Drunk, that has so much appeal to me.
Sweetest
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Originally Posted by skyfox
if you want both titles, here is the fastest way to get them: play on the edge of the 3x3 board - you should play approx. 7500 games - to play this amount of games you need around 4167 tickets - which will cost you 62.5k gold - and it will take around 21 hours time!!! |
skyfox
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Originally Posted by Sweetest
Actually standing on the corner will take you about 15 Hours for the Lucky Title and 20 Hours for the Unlucky
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shadowfell
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Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu
ZOMG *reads all the math posts* *brain explodes* X.X
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Divinus Stella
Did you take into account the varied payouts?
In the middle you get 25 for a major win and 15 for a minor, side gets 40 for a major and 15 for a minor and the corners get 55 for a major and 15 for a minor.
For me it worked out that the side squares were the best for the titles as the payout is larger than the 2 other positions over time and you only win slightly more than the corners.
I got 1 thousand tickets this morning and im still breaking even on the games at around 1000 tickets.
In the middle you get 25 for a major win and 15 for a minor, side gets 40 for a major and 15 for a minor and the corners get 55 for a major and 15 for a minor.
For me it worked out that the side squares were the best for the titles as the payout is larger than the 2 other positions over time and you only win slightly more than the corners.
I got 1 thousand tickets this morning and im still breaking even on the games at around 1000 tickets.
skyfox
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Originally Posted by Divinus Stella
Did you take into account the varied payouts?
In the middle you get 25 for a major win and 15 for a minor, side gets 40 for a major and 15 for a minor and the corners get 55 for a major and 15 for a minor. For me it worked out that the side squares were the best for the titles as the payout is larger than the 2 other positions over time and you only win slightly more than the corners. I got 1 thousand tickets this morning and im still breaking even on the games at around 1000 tickets. |
Saelfaer
so nw what.
you pay 63 plat
get those 3334 tickets to start
go stand there for 20 hours
what the hell do you get out of it
just the 2 titles? or do you keep tickets afterwards. the ones you won?..
you pay 63 plat
get those 3334 tickets to start
go stand there for 20 hours
what the hell do you get out of it
just the 2 titles? or do you keep tickets afterwards. the ones you won?..
Juicey Shake
63 plat? wtf? I spent about 15k and I'm up 200 tickets and I've won over 22k tickets, lost over 1k games, lol.. only been about 6 hrs.
tompilk
i spent 2 hours... got 4000 towards lucky and lost 213...
then ill spend my tickets on booze...
Tom
then ill spend my tickets on booze...
Tom
Cash
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Originally Posted by Witchblade
/finger crossing
pls no rank2 |
skyfox
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Originally Posted by Juicey Shake
63 plat? wtf? I spent about 15k and I'm up 200 tickets and I've won over 22k tickets, lost over 1k games, lol.. only been about 6 hrs.
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i think you use another strategy and are not standing on the edge.
p.s.: i hope too, that there is only one lvl of this crazy title!!!
Juicey Shake
Standing in the middle has been the most consistent for 'tickets won'.. but not a lot of lost.. I should have all of the ticket's won needed for the first tier by this afternoon, then I'll spend tomorrow night on the 4x4 to get my hapless title.
and it wouldn't cost me more money because I have not been losing any money beyond what I spent. I bought 1,000 tickets, and I have not lost any. The lowest I hit was 750, and I then went to 1,200. It is staying consistently around the number I bought.
and it wouldn't cost me more money because I have not been losing any money beyond what I spent. I bought 1,000 tickets, and I have not lost any. The lowest I hit was 750, and I then went to 1,200. It is staying consistently around the number I bought.
Leddy
I'm on 21,140 tickets won, 1,432 games lost, nearly 6 hours
Taking ages.
Taking ages.
tuna-fish_sushi
im on 27000 tickets won and 1.3k loss >< almost 10 hours i started with little less then 2k tickets now im down to 500
kitten
My AFK Gambling results:
Center for 9 rings
266 tickets
4 hours
I came back to having just 9 tickets and it appeared to be that way for about 8 rounds.
Center for 9 rings
266 tickets
4 hours
I came back to having just 9 tickets and it appeared to be that way for about 8 rounds.
GAMBITTHOUGHT
Were do you Play the games at?
ProtoMMC
Where is this at?
Witchblade
almost half of both titles here .. spent +-20-25k
Asrial
Okay, here's the bottom line.....
START -> END
1am -> 8am
1950 starting tickets -> 768 tickets
24,508 tickets won
1,723 games lost
I went AFK on a corner in the 9 ring. Now to go read the rest of the posts...
START -> END
1am -> 8am
1950 starting tickets -> 768 tickets
24,508 tickets won
1,723 games lost
I went AFK on a corner in the 9 ring. Now to go read the rest of the posts...