WTF?! I would like to know which community ANET listens to..

well I'm pleased with the future update of having a material tab.
the event items tab would be for ppl who have recieved almost every single event item so far and beyond which is for long-term players but the amount of these items do not warrant an event item tab atm.

regardless I'm quite happy

What's your professional training?

So seeing as to how you are not a customer service consultant, mechanic, civil engineer, avionics engineer, computer engineer, software developer, or working in any of the myraid of jobs that make society tick, so tell me, does that take away your right to criticise anything?

Incidentally software is my thing, and yes, Anet is being cheap here. I'd rather they fire the whole lot of guys in their events team and actually resolve all these issues we have once and for all with that extra money than to actually pinch pennies and peek bytes to give us half assed solutions to issues that faces US.

Hell, in fact for a teeny bit of storage more Anet can probably relax the restrictions a bit and at least give us a "materials stash" sans the restrictions that you have to put material type A in slot 1 and material type B in slot 2, but no, they are simply too cheap! After selling 2 million copies they can't even afford to *gasp* buy a few scores of $30 40 GB harddrives! Not like those dated drives are so expensive to begin with!

Look, if I'm not welcome here for posting opinions slightly cricical of Anet sometimes, just say so and I'll leave. Is it nice? Sure. It isn't even in the game yet, and some people are going nuts.

I also believe that if customers don't like something they have the right to say so and shouldn't feel like they need to either say northing or praise them for every little addition, even if it wasn't really what they wanted. From a business standpoint, thats a way to loose customers very quickly. Their praise is my money in their pocket on expansions should they do things I like.

And of course, in the spirit of benevolence that fills these forums, some of you will go on to say that I should then quit playing if I don't like it. Arenanet is working with an environment that is a lot more prone to change than most others, giving them great potential to make this game amazing. Some times they just look like they need a push in the right direction to get the ball rolling. Its good, but we shouldn't overlook its potential to be even better. In short, the thing I dislike most is having to defend myself on forums for stating what this customer wants.

[QUOTE=generik] After selling 2 million copies they can't even afford to *gasp* buy a few scores of $30 40 GB harddrives! Not like those dated drives are so expensive to begin with![/QUOTE]

if you think that is what they need or use you are not just clueless you are beyond reasoning with.

if this game makes you so unhappy i fail to see you continuing to bitch unless bitching about a game is the high point in you day.

Well i like the fact that we are getting more inventory space whether it be for materials or runes or whatever as long as its a step in the right direction id rather have more storage space for materials then no storage space for them :x

I think it's a great idea and am waiting very impatiently. Crafting materials take up most of my inventory anyhow, so a separate place for them means it's easier to trade weapons and finds between characters or store my infused armor not neededin Cantha (just cannot give up my 15K Rogue's or Studded ).

Then why are you arguing how it should work when you don't know how it can work?

Kijik Oni Hanryuu, you should stop posting on the boards and grab your skirt and pom poms.

I think you have professional cheerleading in your future.

Pffft. It doesn't do me any good since it I don't own Factions.

Fantastic - before I heard of this new tab, I sold off all my spare materials to the traders for space. Hooray.

1 they use servers, not regualr hard drives. if you really thought hard drives were needed, you are beyond clueless.

2. 2 million copies x even the smallest increase in account file size is alot of memory.

I'm sure Anet has plenty of storage space in the data center
on the servers. Look at all the space going to get taken up when extra slots are ready for players to buy this summer. Then you will have players names, slots, armor ect to store = more storage than changing the the stack size.

I maybe wrong and don't I claim to a computer/server expert but just the way I see it.

Common guys let face it, despite all the yak about they like farmers statements Anet makes, it is obvious why they have been avoiding expanding storage and proper trading for players:

They dont want you to play the game 24/7.

Remember the statements made by Jeff Strain in an interview with VGM daily where he said that they were excitied that people have dusted off their old GW copy to revisit the game in preparation for Factions?

It highlights the mentality that they like you to support them by buying new expansions but not neccessary play them for long. And how do they discourage that?

Simple: Restrict character slots, Restrict storage, Restrict trading, Restrict content. Encourage boredom from extended play from imposed restrictions.

The New expanded storage is only avaible to Factions only toons proves this. Not that its terribly fanatasic anyways. In short, in the comparison to other MMO that is P2P and F2P, GW's storage and trading system is a joke.

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Forgot to add that indeed beggers cant be choosers but definetly angry forums posters. lol.

YunSooJin that made me LOL, sure I may have cheerleading in my FUTURE but you have NONE, you strive only to bitch and complain about things you can't change while I strive to have the strength to change what I can and accept what I cannot. ALso isn't funny how you try to tell me to do something in real life when you do not know me in any way, shape, or fashion. Try and find out who I am, then tell me what to do, till then ESBATMFOAD oh and if ya wanna figure out what that means, PM me asking, I'd be glad to tell you. Also you really wanna know WHY I thank Anet so much? They have introduced a game that is on par with all of the damned Pay To Play games but for free and with only having to pay $50.00 more dollars twice a YEAR to have even more of a variety and it's only by choice, I'll be damned if that almost isn't on the level of a charity, and I feel that a good charity should be thanked, not constantly bitched at and whined at. So that is the end of my rant and I hope that you got my point!
GOOD DAY!


sorry Yuo Can Do It! I got you mixed up with YunSooJin

I love the idea of clearing all the stacks of crafting materials out of my regular storage. that's the bulk of what i have in there, since it's the only stuff that is useful on more than one character. The rest stays on the character it is customized for, or the one that would use it (ie swords axes and hammers in my warrior's inventory)

The only reasonable way i can think of improving this idea is to add such a feature to each character's inventory, since i have a collection of (less than 250) wood, iron, and such materials on each character, because if i salvage an item i'm gonna end up w/ x amount of one of those materials, and therefore i'm gonna use the spot in my inventory anyway, be it for 12 iron ingots from salvaging, or 173 iron ingots that have accumulated.

This would free up many spots in my inventory, but i'm happy enough w/ clearing those materials out of my general storage box

sorry if somebody already posted w/ this same sentiment, but i didn't read the whole thread :P

If you want to talk about mule characters then I can match your game. My main account has 2 for common materials. I also have 2 other accounts completely for storage. Am I complaining about this? No, I'm not. I still play with my mule characters. I keep a few slots open to pick up things.

You yourself said "its an improvement." Doesn't matter how small or big it is. Its an improvement. Besides no one is telling you to horde every item you come across. When I bought my 2 other accounts I did not complain that I had to buy more accounts for storage. That's the way the system is set up and that's how it works.

I have to pay 1 upfront fee for my accounts the rest of my GW life. If a company said "You can get cable tv for only 1 upfront fee of $1000 for the rest of you natural life." Would you do it? I know I would.

I deal with people like this all day. It sickens me sometimes. Most of the time we take a loss to get our customer's what they want. Then next time they want even more. Its like Americans think they are owed something. I can say that because I am an American. I can't speak for other countries because I live there.

I do agree that its another advantage of getting factions and can be used as a selling point but its not the only one. If you think this is a such a small improvement then what does it matter. You've lived without it before now you can live without it in the future if you choose to do so. Its all choice.

Its like people complain about the $10 per slots when they become available to sell. ITS A CHOICE TO GET IT PEOPLE. No one is twisting your arm.

Anyways go Anet and keep the improvements coming. I have not spent more time on a game my entire life and is the cheapest game I've invested into so far. No complaints here. I didn't even like factions during the beta and hated the CE debogal. I bought factions and liked the changes made to AB. Glad you do listen to your gamers. I was the one that suggested the breaking up of teams on this forum and no random enters. They do listen to us and do their best to please us. All for a 1 time fee for each chapter.

No, you can't. It's not just Americans, anyway - it's all people. If you lived somewhere else, you'd probably find the same, and not only Americans complain on these boards.

I'd say there's more than enough storage available between vaults and bags - some people are just packrats. There's only so much you need or will be using - liquidate the rest into clean $$$$!

First of all, not everyone has a pvp character. I have a monk, war, necro, ele, rit, and ranger. I want to make a pvp, but i would much rather have a mesmer and a assassin first. (tahts y i cant wait 4 the update where u can buy more character slots)

Second, OMG, wat the hell?!?!? Are you people happy with anything Arena Net does??? I've only been on these forums for less than a week and I see SO MUCH WHINNING!!! like "WTF wow u cant max out the lucky or unlucky titles in the time of this event!", "This event mission is almsot impossible and u only get 50 orbs from it! Y did arena net waste this time making this mission?!?!" or like here, "Wow, they added storage for materials! HOW DUMB!" Arena Net doesn't HAVE to have events that can give you titles or events at all, and they don't HAVE to upgrade storage. Like some other people said on this post, there are other MMO's that you have to pay monthly for, yet they NEVER upgrade the storage. And some people cant get ANY of the lucky or unlucky titles (like me) just because we don't have the extra gold to spend on the tickets, and unless people start donating tickets (highly doubtful) I dont think a lot of people like me are gonna even try to get the titles (tho i wish i could).
BE THANKFUL FOR WAT ARENA NET GIVES YOU BECAUSE THEY DIDNT HAVE TO SPEND THE TIME TO MAKE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO ADD IT TO THE GAME EITHER!

Third, I personally like the things Arena Net is doing. I like the festival (exept the ticket stuff). The missions are hard, but that is wat makes it fun. There are so many moments when youre whole team starts to think "Nooo, we are going to die!!! ANd we are so close to the next rift portal thing!" Its moments like those that are the funnest and u reallly dont get that feeling in most other things because they aren't as hard and long. I am really, really glad that they added materials to the storage, because I know there are gonna be more chapters. Remember how there was the couple week period right after factions came out where almost all the materials prices spiked up because so many people were buying materials for their armor? Now there might be some spike, but not nearly as bad. Because I do not have that much gold in this game, it was sooooo hard to get armor for the characters I just made with the two extra slots. I barely got enough money for my monk's armor, and it was so anoyingly expensive, i decided to wait till the materials droped again before i even thought of getting armor. I basically couldnt play on my rit for a while just because of that. Now I can finally keep my materials that I am pretty sure I will need sometime.

Fourth, you need to remember that you aren't the only person in guild wars and not everyone needs/wants the same things you do. Maybe you can afford the price spike and you would rather just buy your materials when you need it. Good for you, but not everyone (for example me) is like that.

Sorry if this got off topic (I know it did at least a little) but i am just really anoyed with all the people that can't seem to understand that 1) this will at least be usefull to someone otherwise Arena Net wouldn't put it in in the first place and 2) Arena Net never had to make this additional stuff! (like titles, this event, the event misison, and the material storage)

In short, just be glad that Arena Net is adding things, even if you don't like it because there is someone in the game that will, and it shows Arena net does care about its players.

Sorry, but all these whinners got me really mad. I just had to let it out....

And yes, I also think they should add things (I would really like storage for dyes because I always save my dyes for later use, and, as far as I know, dyes do not count as materials) but don't complain about wait Arena Net does give to you.

twicky that statement is completely true and respectable.. and tear you are right, all humans think they are owed something, they think they are the next biggest thing, when they the LAST thing, humans naturally destroy the environment around them in an attempt so take everything they can from it, sucking it dry, humans are naturally evil and greedy beings, nothing can be done about it, I only still fight with hope that one day atleast i can make some people see the light and change for the better.. 'Tis a sad world we live in where people spend the time of their day whining about everything instead of being gracious for what they have..(I wouldn't even be on GWG 'cept I am holed up at my grandparents house)


^^ Gamecube good statement a few typos but the message got across.

Hey, not to fret, your hungry, I'll bake you a chicken. Oh, wait, theres some complications with catching it, it'll take some time. Ok, it took us 3 months to catch the bugger, we'll bake it now. Oh, crap, we don't have what we need to prepare it, we'll grab it now. Sorry, our cars all broke down and every store closed, we had to walk to the next state. Sorry that took 4 months. Now we'll bake it. CRAP! The oven broke, we have to fix it. Ok, sorry fixing the oven took another 3 months. Now we can bake it. Wow, the oven temperature won't go above 50 degree, this'll take a while. Ok, how about we give you half a sandwich, but only if you buy the chicken as well.

Sounds like a recent event, I think.

id yer talking about the festival, gimme proof they were planning to "bake" this "chicken" along time ago... Oh and uh shit happens, deal with it.

Also, haven't any of you ever heard the phrase "patience is golden"? I swear half of you guys need a bit more gold in your lives, and you need to grow up a little..

Event in that case didn't mean in game event. I was talking about the storage addition.

40 GB hard drive wont cut it, what they would need is more like a couple of these http://www.pricewatch.com/hard_drives/6043-1.htm
Cant speak for generik, but the game doesnt make ME unhappy, just certain aspects of it. Would you not buy a car because you didnt like the tread pattern on the tires?

WHAT!?!? HELLO?!!? You just told ALMOST EVERYONE in this thread to "shut up and be happy with whatever you're given". I also DIDNT say I had no idea whatsoever about it, Ive done some programming, and found it excruciatingly difficult, so I dont bother with it anymore. I also appreciate your comments on my suggestions, and btw, whats YOUR background, that you can so easily dismiss anyone who thinks they have a decent idea about how this "improvement" should have been done? Also, Ive read this from you(bottom of page)

1. -Ok... But they might be.
2. Not really. The "smallest increase in account file size" would mean an additional 2million bits, or 250kb(a little less than 1/6 of a floppy). Even if you add on a full byte, it's only an additional 2 MB total for everyone. I had a computer 20 years ago, that had half that much memory standard, and 30 times that in HDD space(couldve added more RAM for 2 MB). Its not much.

To "the cheerleaders" Look, we DO have a right to complain about things we dont like. What about bugs? Should we not mention those, and just say, "Well, its a great game, and its free, so we're not allowed to complain, that would be wrong"? I gotta ask, have you EVER returned something to a store because you didnt like/need/want/already had it? Dont sound like it, sounds like you'd say, "Oh boy! I got extra!" I (and others) WILL complain about things we dont care for, as well as compliment things we like, thats how it works. NOONE in their right mind would never complain about anything.

Also, Id REALLY have liked it if Gaile or someone "in the know" couldve commented on my suggestion, even if it was to say, "Thats not they way our sytem works, the program doesnt do it that way", or even "That wont work, because the programming's different than you think". Hell, pm me or post, I would just like to know someone heard! : D

No, I didn't. I attempted to use an analogy to explain to someone why everyone was whining about the storage addition.

I do believe the wait on the storage thing could be accounted to, multiple massive skill overhauls, the rushing out of factions due to them trying to keep their promise and massive whining, many new items additions, tournaments. You have to think they are just now getting a break to add this stuff because the Festival tided them over, seriously guys be a little more positive the world isn't out to screw you. Though I seriously think that the "non wordly" forces like luck and such do like to screw with people, but that's the little insane part of me talking. I also thoroughly believe everyone is atleast a liiiittle crazy.


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ok gorebrex RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you gotta love the gored engine, about the cheerleaders thing, we aren't cheerleaders we are gracious unlike you greedy SoBs who just want more and more and more, ya know gluttony and greed are sins, have fun where yer going, I'll just cheerlead here on earth while you waste your life whining, and crying for more.. about the bugs, that's different you mention them so they can get changed you little sob are whining for something EXTRA if it wasn't extra then half the GW community wouldn't have been able to keep going right now. I also yes I do return something to the store if I don't like it, why don't you do the same and return GW if you don't like it so much and free up some server space, I could use it. O h and the whining about "omg my suggestions don't get recognition, whiiine whiiine biitch" I don't get recognition for my suggestions or my attempts to shut down the idiocy in these threads, I still do it because I know it is right. so I say the same to you ESBATMFOAD

before I(or anyone else) get anymore involved, could a mod please close this thread, it has degenerated into a flame fest... like every other thread that attacks Anet.

Ok.... At first I had NO FREAKIN CLUE WAT U WERE TRYING TO SAY!
Now I think i sorta understand. So you are sayin that Arena Net said they would expand the storage a while ago, I think? If that IS wat you are trying to say, when did they say this? I have only jus tnow heard of a strorage expansion, bu then again, I started playing GW a couple months before factions so I missed out on a lot.


First, I'm not being a "cheerleader", I am just being grateful and optimistic about wat Arena Net does.

Second, i NEVER said anything about bugs. When I said "Second, OMG, wat the hell?!?!? Are you people happy with anything Arena Net does??? I've only been on these forums for less than a week and I see SO MUCH WHINNING!!!", I was refering to people whinning about things like the luck titles not being maxable and the event mission being too hard. Anyone would complain about bugs (even I do, just download rakion and find a room I am playing in. I will almost always be complaining about some bug/glitch or another, or lag which I count as basically the same)

BTW I don't know how to do multiple quotes in one post. This is my first time trying so don't blame me if it didnt work.

I was gonna try to quote and say somthin else, but I can't find it now and I forgot wat it was about... o well

Then shut up and eat somewhere else!

Seriously - horrible anology.

How is it a flame fest? O wait nvm I see wait you mean. If only they would stop every thread that ends up like this... Or better yet, everyone be more...um, nice i guess.... so that threads wouldnt need to be closed..

*hands gamecube a defender o anet suit o armor* good job man, I also agree with you, bugs and lag are the only things worthwhile to complain about, because they actually will get fixed, you will never see me aggravated on a bug report thread.

Yes costumers are sometimes annoying. No matter how much you do to try to please them, they are almost always never happy and only want more and more things for nothing. -.o

My company deals with some precious metals, mainly silver. Now, silver's price rises and falls daily. Sometimes its more expensive, sometimes its cheaper.

Some of the companies have certain deals. If you order on a certain day, the price of your silver is on the day of your ORDER. Some companies, the price of your silver is on the day of your SHIPMENT.

Now. Once you lock your price, you cant change it. It wouldnt be good business, i mean, you just cant do that. Thats not fair to us or our other costumers. I cant tell you how many costumers want to change their silver price because it rose or fell. -.- its just...ugh.

Yes, thats OT, but thats just to show you how bad costumers can get.

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Back on topic:

I agree with twicky. Theres gonna be a LOT of whining when they allow the $10 character slots.

People are gonna complain that:

1) Its not fair for those who dont buy
2) It should be free/we should have had it in the first place
3) Its not fair for those those who already bought multiple accounts
4) Its unbalanced!
5) its too expensive

This is a TINY storage improvement and it gets SOOO much negative feedback.

You know a person can only take so much abuse before they stop doing what you asked.

I understand the concept of "You cant please everyone all the time." but this is just ridiculous.

Go Lyra very true, man I hope that GW stays around for a long time, but I don't see it happening, eventually the people at GW are going to snap and say "ya know WHAT F*** YOU! We're SHUTTING DOWN the GW SERVERS!" and then all the little whiner babies will die and I will move on because I didn't waste my life whining and had other things in back up to do just in case.



LOL I almost woke up the neighboors laughing. QFT man QFT *hands im a cookie of funniness*

@ Kijik Oni Hanryuu, woah clam down there. I was getting the impression you were on high on something while you were posting, trying to burn down the forums with flames.

This thread has gone down to the drain with flames. Are we still talking about the validity of the new storage options? Other wise it serves no one to continue with name calling.

/vote for closure

sorry Thall but I get really riled up when someone tries to personally attack me, along with attacking an honorable company that has done a charity for all of the gamers who are too poor to play anything else.



BTW I would give anything to get high on something right now but that's something totally different. I also did already /vote for closure myself

I really don't need to be getting anymore angry tonight or my head is going to explode then my body will run around hunting down random people and maiming them.

I dont see how thats an analogy. Anyway, you kinda did, by saying(in effect), "If you dont know how it works, dont make suggestions/give ideas on howd you think it could or should work"

Umm WTF are you on? How the hell did I come across as "greedy"? When did I say I didnt like GW?I seem to recall saying "Cant speak for generik, but the game doesnt make ME unhappy, just certain aspects of it." NEVER whined in my post about "omg my suggestions don't get recognition, whiiine whiiine biitch" Wheretf did that come from? Ive made over 150 post, and NOT ONCE have I said "Hey! How about a reply?"(or words to that effect). I asked here, because ONLY SOMEONE AT ANET COULD ANSWER THE QUESTION!

O_O Who personally attacked you? Charity? You think all free to play games are charity? PS, HOW do you know "gamers who are too poor to play anything else" is true?
That explains it, I guess...

LMAO! u cant get angry cuz wat? lol

And wait. THe company has done chairity for all the gamers taht are too poor to play anything else? WTF? Just so you know, its not that i am "too poor". Its because 1) i acually like this game and 2) I don't belive in buying a game just to install it and then to acually play it, you have to pay monthly. It just doesnt make sence to me... I mean, i paid for it once, isnt that good enough?
Y should I pay for a game over and over if I alredy originally paid for it??? It just baffles me how someone came up with taht and how so many people can agree to that...

Anyway... For the new character slots thing (first of all, how is that remotly related to account storage? o well)

1) how is it unfair to the people that don't buy it? Its optional. You really don't gain much except not havin to remake characters if you want to play more than your account can have..

2)Y should we have had it in the first place? Arena Net is the one makin the game, and they EASILY could have just left it at four character slots, even if you did buy factions.

3) I agree with you on that

4) How is it unbalanced if you payed for it, and other people can get just as many as you?

5) I think its worth the price, but that one is reall just opinion....

BTW I'm not trying to flame you, you just put no proof as to wat why you said wat you said so I can't really agree with you on any but your third one....

for one, I was on adrenaline, you got yourself caught in the crossfire, and you chose the wrong side... especially with the cheerleaders comment, that set me off, if you had read some of the earlier posts you would have known I already slammed aomeone else for that BS. You got me at the wrong place and the wrong time, I apologise for exaggerating somethings. I was wrong for some of the things I said, but seriously don't EXPECT to get a response directly to you from Anet, not likely they are very busy. Also I habve made roughly 450 posts, and most of them are defending anet or actually talking about sin subjects, I have come to really appreciate the sin.. In a wrap up I am sorry you got caught in the crossfire, bad timeing bad place... till next time...


Gamecube, she doesn't actually believe that stuff, she is saying that those are the viewpoints the whiners will take, adn about the anger thing.... well lets just say me getting angry isn't too desirable for anything living around me at the time that I get truely angry... oh and the char slot thing is related to storage becuase it is another optional add-on that people are VEEEERRRY likely to bitch about..

Cube you should look at the orginal post about the character slots when the news was released.

It was whinners everywhere. Just about the entire thread was complaining. Don't ask me why people complain about a choice but that's about all they do on these forums.

Constructive conversations are very rare here. Some one always ruins good topics. This post was destined for the lock just by the title. Flame threads never make it even this far. Wonder if the mods are alseep?

People should learn to be content with what you have. It won't be there forever. When its gone you'll realize how much you took it for granted.

Oh I see. Those are just things people MIGHT complain about... oops lol i took it completely different. o well.

and ur right twitchy kid. Im amazed i didnt realize that untill i read that.

QFT Twicky, that is one of my main driving forces against these people who take these things for granted, sad thing is I used to be just like these people taking everything for granted and wanting more, until the most important thing to me in the world, which I took for granted, was ripped away. Having something you value more than anything stripped from you is one of life's major lessons. Sadly it seems that some people can't learn from the stories of others and must go through the pain of loss for themselves.