Nerfs not mentioned in updates?

I'll take pics tonight.

Me and 2 guildies go sand giant farming and that was as productive as ever. One battle vs 6 giants actually dropped 2 gold max dmg hammers which is more than the normal drop. Usually it takes 2 complete runs to get one gold hammer.

As has been noted, the griffins are still working.

The ettins are still dropping purple/gold runes as the same rate as before this most recent patch.

I haven't tried the golems lately. /me goes to try them and report back.

i can show u pics.. i got 2 gold bows 1 gold wand 2k gold 2 purple and 7 blue items in 1 run last nite at ember camp run. it is also a question of how many times u farm the same map in a given of time. if the ratio of # of farming u did/time passed is to high or close to 1(24 times/24 hours = 1 vs 2 times/ 24 hours) you are doomed to get crappy items everytime u gonna do a run

I'm sorry, but I did not understand your non-english. Are you trying to say that if you farm same spot alot, your runs will be better, or are you saying if you farm same spot alot, your runs will be worse?

EVERYONE:

If you want to farm, make a W/Mo or a E/Mo ... there is absolutely no other way. OTHER chars are NOT good for farming with and this is probably where all your pain and frustration is coming from.

I hear Mo/* themselves are pretty easy to farm with but that I haven't needed to experiment with that much.

If you are serious about farming get someone to help you rush a Warrior through the game and you will be very pleased and happy you did so.

I don't think farming is exploitive. It's fun, just don't do it ALL the time because it gets uber boring. Running around helping newbie players is way more fun :O

PVP / ToA >> other fun for people who have finished PvE .. also, if you've beaten it already.. why not just take a break? Make a new char and play the game through slowly. Believe me pre-searing is actually very neat if you just run around a bit.

There are so many different ways to play this game. It ALWAYS helps to have more than one character up and running for whatever you need at the moment

Hope that helps.

Please take your head out of your ass. The griffons are the ONLY spot they haven't nerfed. Why don't you go try farming somewhere else and come back and tell us the same thing. Stop lieing to yourself.

So many ppl say nerfing is good. but to take on 20+ mobs is not an easy task. it takes precise timing with skills and just the right build. if you manage to take down 20+ mobs all at the same time then the game had better give you some gold items. in the long run nerfing will only drive ppl away from the game. and i mean after months of nerfing ppl will slowly start to leave.

Bullshit. Most of the farm-mobs have NOT got reduced drop rates.
The only ones I'm pretty sure have reduced drop rates are the Hydras in Crystal Desert - I never get anything from them any more.

The "nerfing" that's been done has mostly not been to reduce drop rates, but to include more monsters, and usually enchant-stripping mesmers, to mess up the monk-based farming builds. Strip Mending and stop them from sprinting, and most farming builds run out of steam real quick.

I have three spots I regularly farm, and they drop lots of goodies. No, I'm not gonna telly you where, but why don't you go and, say, kill drakes at Gates of Kryta? They still drop nice stuff, you just have to get past the undead mesmers & rangers.

Nonsense, someone abusing protective bond can take any number of enemies without a shred of personal skill, and most other farming builds similarly abuse homogenous AI group composition/skillsets. You get the same drops a group of 4 would get for killing them, that's the reward you set out for, and that's the reward you get. You're not seriously expecting ArenaNet to applaud and reward you for abusing game mechanics and playing the game in a way they did not design it around at all?

I think certain expectations were reached as far as farming. I'm just curious how much gold you expect to make on a farming run? I mean is anyone actually stopping you from farming or is it just harder to get drops?

Admittedly I don't play often anymore but I jumped on and I got some decent stuff the first couple things I killed. I'm sure what's decent to me doesn't mean squat to you, but I don't think it's ever going to be like it used to...nor should it.

i have seen nerfing but i know that the place i farm at,name-will-not-be-stated-for-fear-of-nerfing,hasnt been nerfed yet.i went with my lvl 11 ranger and had 6 hencies.got 4 purple armors and 1 gold armor,in 1 run.havent done that place again because i didnt want to.

Farming
i love it. but i think we all suffer cause of bots. getting 1 xp is better then 0.

but the drops for me have been good lately. i dont farm the same spots. i move all over the map.

what i want now is fissure armor. but i think its good to make it really hard to get...

I'd hate to see what would happen if there was competion for mobs, just be thankful you have an instanced area unto yourself

Fissure armor should not need 500+ hours of pure grind to get.

This is kinda strange as an idea, but what if all the gold in the game dropped at an increased rate? So that getting lots of gold wasn't an absolutely huge issue?

I was hoping to be able to get some 15K armor at some point, but the prices are absolutely insane compared to the ammount of gold I can get.

Let's put it another way; I do nothing but play the game, and if I put all my money from all my characters onto one character, I can afford one or two pieces of 15k armor (I've played past ascention with 5 characters; yes, of course I deleted some because I needed the slot for something else). You'd think that after 500 hours of gameplay, I could get more than 2 pieces of 15K armor. How exclusive was that stuff supposed to be?

All I ever seem to get in drops are "bad" items that nobody is willing to buy. I regret not farming more when people could do it so easy; I just wanted to play the game and have some fun .

Also, if going to a barrel and getting gold really easy is a problem, then A.net needs to remove the barrel, and not fuss at players for "exploiting" easy gold. While I do think that the way some classes could exclusively kill 30 enemies at once wasn't entirely fair (I played E/Me most of the time, not a great farmer from what I could tell -- dies easy), I don't think that going to the same barrel and getting gold repeatedly is an exploit, any more than repeatedly going into UW or Fissure is an exploit. Again, if the barrel is a problem, remove the barrel, don't fuss at players for using what was put into the game.

I farm XP for skill points so I can unlock more Elites for PvP. I find that per 20k xp I make I pull down about 10-15 runes (probably 1-2 sup) and at least one worthwhile weapon/staff (it might not be a perfect fellblade but its something like +13% damage while h>50% -- fyi guys, swords are for warriors that haven't figured out how to use an Axe or Hammer yet ).

I kill the same mobs all the time since they haven't stopped them from giving XP. If I actually try to get items and swap between areas my drops seem fine still.

Why? It offers no power differential, its purely a status item, so its irrelevant how long it takes to get. All it is for is to show you have put the time into obtaining it.

Actually it takes much longer than that, i've been working out the price for fissure armor and its around 3 million gold now.

Now dont tell me that isnt a problem, dont tell me its for the people who work for it because NO ONE is going to get that anymore unless they obtained ecto before the nerfing or they buy gold from Ebay.

As for the people who defend Anet by saying "do you really think anet wanted you to abuse the game mechanics in this way" Abuse the game mechanics? isn't coming up with builds to achieve certain things very much the game mechanics? isn't the whole point of the game to exploit the skills to the best of your advantage?

I notice it's these same people who, once confronted with the "You dont get enough money by simply playing the game for even droknars armour" say, "well go and farm its not been nerfed" or "It's there for the people who spent their time earning it farming." Contradicting themselves.

To the guy bent on insulting everyone and trolling because he apparently believes farming hasnt been nerfed, wow at your pics! lots of non max damage yellow items, that no real player would even buy, well enjoy selling it to the trader at 100 gold then, you'll have the 3 million for droknars armour in no time!

A lot of people here are obviously frequent farmers and can really see the difference in drops, as have I in certain areas. The underworld has even been nerfed now, you cant get 1 ecto in 4 runs most of the time, that's with me soloing all the Aatxes and darkness and smites. Nothing but some crap non max armour/damage eternal shields and bows.

Anet has decided to combat the bots buy trying to decrease the rate that gold is obtained, all this means is the entire player base wants gold more badly and is more willing to buy it from the botters, who are now (because they farm 24/7 non stop) the only people who have it! HURRAH for a sensible salution!

The best way to fix this? don't make gold hard to get, then NO ONE will *WANT* to buy it from ebay, even if you can buy more.

And for the people who are saying "Some people just want everything right away" thats not true, we're all perfectly willing to work for our gold, but at the moment we're working for practically nothing, i'm not going to spend months farming, literally, just to get fissure armor.

And dont tell me "Fissure armor is purely cosmetic, you dont need it" of course I dont need it, but its there to be bought, and is supposedly supposed to be the reward for pve players, to go around in their snazzy armour that says "Hey look, i didnt just create a pvp character in 5 minutes!" but the PVE is completely unrewarding once you've completed the game at the moment.

I have 1 million gold in my bank, and i'm not even willing to spend it because I know I wont be getting much more any time soon. Ecto is going upwards of 16k per piece now, you need 120 for warriors fissure armor, plus 120 6k+ shards (it rises by 1k almost every day). That price is rediculous if you are going to cut off all gold supplies.

It's funny. I used to think I wanted fissure armor, and have been saving ecto ever since. Now that I have a total of 34 ecto, a couple of shards, and 800K in the bank, I am not sure that I even want it anymore. For 1,000,000 gold total cost I would have purchased it, but for the 3,000,000 gold it is actually going to cost...I don't think it is worth it.

Heh, you know what? I make more money off of you fissure armor people everytime I play. Why, because everyone and anyone pings me everytime I sell them for 3k.

Now that I know that the price is going up, it's about to go to 4-5k. :P

Who told you this? An Anet official? Why was it not officially announced?

I call shenanigans.