Hey all. I started a thread about an hour ago asking how much charging monks charge for their services, seeing as their aren't that many monks in the later missions (Accension). What i didn't expect was the amount of critism I got. So after 3 pages of skim reading i finally got some useful comments. But an interesting idea popped up in that wee head of mine.
In some parts of the world, going to hospital is free (volunteers)
And in other parts of the world, going to hospital will cost you.
Yet people accept going to a hospital which charges, since they have the money. One could argue that a being a doctor is a profession and takes years of learning. Well the same goes for being a monk, getting to level 20 takes some time, and has a learning curve as well to be a good monk.
Of course when real doctor's charge, most people wouldn't want to goto the super health care plan which costs an arm and a leg. Most average joes will just go for the simple effective one with piece and mind. Paracetamol is Paracetamol after all.
But anyway, when i say charging i mean just average in this case.
Now we know that charging monks do have their free brother alternative. Alesia and Lina. They are fine, and most people will use them.
EDIT: (To avoid confusion, i've added extra detail)
Some people are worried about being scammed. Well suppose that the monk was in a previous mission with you.
Or suppose that the monk was going to prove his worth by saying he'll only charge half way through. That way the rest of the players can see whether the monk is good or bad.
BTW comparing this to a runner. This is exactly the same.
A runner asks for money after a certain point (usually half the amount stated)
That way the runie's know that they aren't going to be scammed.
So your effectively taking any same risk as being runned. And seeing as quite alot of people in beacon's peech are asking to be runned for like 2K, i'd imagine quite a few of you know of this payment method.
There are also those monks which are good, and those which are rubbish. Lets consider now that all those charging will be GOOD monks.
So. Whats your opinion? And why?
(Please if your AGAINST THIS. Just say it, in a proper manner, nothing like "U suck")
Monks Charging for their Service - Whats your opinion?
Darksci
Kuku Monk
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most people will use a real monk, but as i've seen in the later mission the number of monks are quite low.
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Algren Cole
What is my guarantee that you are a good monk? When I go to the doctor I pay for a service that is guaranteed(or as close to possible) and backed by multiple degrees from upstanding colleges. What am I paying you for? If I die do you get paid? I can get through the mission without you if I'm willing to deal with a DP.....so if anyone in the party dies, that party doesn't have to pay you for your "services"?
Omega Complex
Brother Marion here, Mo/E20 (healer/nuker), Charging is one thing that I have never really gotten into. I'm much more into the team co-op thing, but if your team sucks and ignores you.....well......thats in another thread.
I have serious thought about charging since Anet has decided to nerf ANY AND ALL FARMING ANYWHERE!!!! Most times I go along to help, because I know what to do and know how to get it done efficiently. Now with missions like Thirsty River....lets just say theres alot of healing/skull bashing in that one. I do the missions for drops, caps, and gold, and hopefully some stuff I can salvage for material for armor.
But anyway I personally dont charge, seeing as I am full aware that good monks are hard to find, and that some of those that you do eventually get turn out to be crap.
But in response to charging, thats up to you=. It appears that its the only way we can get enough money to buy the 150+ globs of ectoplasm needed for the uber monk armor.
I have serious thought about charging since Anet has decided to nerf ANY AND ALL FARMING ANYWHERE!!!! Most times I go along to help, because I know what to do and know how to get it done efficiently. Now with missions like Thirsty River....lets just say theres alot of healing/skull bashing in that one. I do the missions for drops, caps, and gold, and hopefully some stuff I can salvage for material for armor.
But anyway I personally dont charge, seeing as I am full aware that good monks are hard to find, and that some of those that you do eventually get turn out to be crap.
But in response to charging, thats up to you=. It appears that its the only way we can get enough money to buy the 150+ globs of ectoplasm needed for the uber monk armor.
Darksci
I'm speaking of a hypthetical situation. ASSUME that the monk who's charging is a Good monk, and won't quit, and won't scam.
bstripp
Do what you want, just know that you are going to have few if any invites on this. You are not performing a service that can not be done for free by plenty of other people as well as 2 henchmen who are as competant as many monks.
I play a monk about 50% of the time I am in GW. I don't charge, and would never pay for one when henchies do just fine.
I play a monk about 50% of the time I am in GW. I don't charge, and would never pay for one when henchies do just fine.
Algren Cole
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I'm speaking of a hypthetical situation. ASSUME that the monk who's charging is a Good monk, and won't quit, and won't scam.
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I'm not ASSUMING anything....90% of the monks in this game are awful and I'd rather heal myself....so PROVE to me you are a good monk...BEFORE you ask for my money.
Damon Windwalker
My opinion:
I think that the economy is an important part of the game.
I thihnk if you can make money without destroying the gameplay in the higher levels, go for it.
If you're helping people through missions by being a support character (and we all know there aren't enough monks - and even fewer competant monks...) then I salute you. If you are just running characters, then I am against it (but, as a monk, I doubt that is what you are doing).
I think that the economy is an important part of the game.
I thihnk if you can make money without destroying the gameplay in the higher levels, go for it.
If you're helping people through missions by being a support character (and we all know there aren't enough monks - and even fewer competant monks...) then I salute you. If you are just running characters, then I am against it (but, as a monk, I doubt that is what you are doing).
Rasp
I'd never pay a monk for help. I'd rather rent Lina or Alesia. 
Like others said. I wouldn't pay you, if you let me die. :O You wouldn't be doing your job worthy enough to be paid if I died.
Like others said. I wouldn't pay you, if you let me die. :O You wouldn't be doing your job worthy enough to be paid if I died.
Mithie
I'd like to make another attack at your hospital analogy, since I think it's woefully irrelavent. Guild Wars is *not* a life threatening situation, just like I *don't* go to the hospital when I need to be entertained. You're missing the fact that Guild Wars is a *game*, and its primary purpose is for fun, not to simulate an economic burden. The missions are suppose to be for fun for every class, so why would I pay for a monk who breaks that mode of gaming for me? Even if I fail a mission, I got some nice experience and entertainment out of it, wether I failed it with a player or a hench.
Darksci
I'm not asking for your money.
I'm asking a straight forward question.
If a monk was GOOD, and he charged for his service, (oh and lets say he already proved he was a good monk by i dunno, doing the previous mission with you) would you pay for his service? YES/NO ?
I'm asking a straight forward question.
If a monk was GOOD, and he charged for his service, (oh and lets say he already proved he was a good monk by i dunno, doing the previous mission with you) would you pay for his service? YES/NO ?
Drakenbow
I just posted this in your other thread...
As for my negative feelings.... (my opinion) I would NOT pay unless I knew you were DAM good via experience and I was in a tight spot
So, I guess I'm not totally against it... just worried about others hopping on the bandwagon and scamming... that's the bad part.
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Okay, didn't see this on here.... I have mixed feelings about this topic, but I will put the negative on the shelf It is possible that I would pay for an *excellent* monk, but when a henchie wouldn't work or I was only finding fodder. That being said, I would prefer the monk "prove" themselves first. Possibly have a set price and deduct from it based on how many times party members die. That way, if you don't perform well... you don't get paid well. (Hmmm, malpractice comes to mind hehe...) If you are *excellent* then you get paid well and possibly a bonus if you're with me ... just my 2 gold |
So, I guess I'm not totally against it... just worried about others hopping on the bandwagon and scamming... that's the bad part.
moonshadow
I think it defeats the "team concept" of partying together. Everyone has a job to do, whether it be up front getting their head bashed in, taking the blows for someone else, or whether it is in back healing the other members of the party. Should the Warrior charge for being the one up front and taking blows? Should the Ranger charge because she adds another "member" to party with her pet? Should the Elementalist charge per spell? Everyone is valuable on a team, whether it is in a real life sport, or in an RPG party. I think many people don't even understand the concept anymore...
Yes, healing is valuable, but others are making sacrifices to protect the healer's butt as well. It's selfish to think you're the only one who makes a difference.
Yes, healing is valuable, but others are making sacrifices to protect the healer's butt as well. It's selfish to think you're the only one who makes a difference.
Darksci
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I just posted this in your other thread...
As for my negative feelings.... (my opinion) I would NOT pay unless I knew you were DAM good via experience and I was in a tight spot So, I guess I'm not totally against it... just worried about others hopping on the bandwagon and scamming... that's the bad part. |
This will probably happen unless you agree to pay increments at each part of the run.
Martina
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I'm speaking of a hypthetical situation. ASSUME that the monk who's charging is a Good monk, and won't quit, and won't scam.
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Night Daftshadow
this fee charging service is getting out of hand. almost every town i go to, there's at least a few players running a charging service to run them to some place, run missions for them or requiring their services ie. monk's healings. four months ago, no such thing existed. now, you see it almost every where. it's ridiculous. i dont really have a problem with those runners ie. droknar runners, but i do have a problem with players charging for for their service ie. monks for healing. no matter how much experience or great a monk is, i will never pay them for service. ill rather get a noob monk or henchies.
Xonic
if there are tank charges, dmg charges, hex charges, remove hex charges, of course there should be healing charges.
healing breeze is 10g/each
rez is 500g/each
right?
Next time I'll do nothing but rez. yeah, I'll be rich so fast!!11!
healing breeze is 10g/each
rez is 500g/each
right?
Next time I'll do nothing but rez. yeah, I'll be rich so fast!!11!
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Originally Posted by Darksci
Hey all. I started a thread about an hour ago asking how much charging monks charge for their services, seeing as their aren't that many monks in the later missions (Accension). What i didn't expect was the amount of critism I got. So after 3 pages of skim reading i finally got some useful comments. But an interesting idea popped up in that wee head of mine.
In some parts of the world, going to hospital is free (volunteers) And in other parts of the world, going to hospital will cost you. Yet people accept going to a hospital which charges, since they have the money. One could argue that a being a doctor is a profession and takes years of learning. Well the same goes for being a monk, getting to level 20 takes some time, and has a learning curve as well to be a good monk. Of course when real doctor's charge, most people wouldn't want to goto the super health care plan which costs an arm and a leg. Most average joes will just go for the simple effective one with piece and mind. Paracetamol is Paracetamol after all. But anyway, when i say charging i mean just average in this case. Now we know that charging monks do have their free brother alternative. Alesia and Lina. They are fine, and most people will use them. But if given the chance, most people will use a real monk, but as i've seen in the later mission the number of monks are quite low. So here's an example where I would, given the chance, choose to advertise my services. There are also those monks which are good, and those which are rubbish. Lets consider now that all those charging will be GOOD monks. So. Whats your opinion? And why? (Please if your AGAINST THIS. Just say it, in a proper manner, nothing like "U suck") |
Del12
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I'd never pay a monk for help. I'd rather rent Lina or Alesia.
Like others said. I wouldn't pay you, if you let me die. :O You wouldn't be doing your job worthy enough to be paid if I died. |
Aniewiel
If you can get the money, go for it. I wouldn't hire a monk but that's my bag.
DiAnna
Obviously I'm against monks, or any character class, charging for their services. To me it seems clearly a matter of absolute and overwhelming avarice.
Your hospital scenario is flawed, BTW. Except in the practice of an absolutely utopian communist system which has never been implemented successfully on this planet, all citizens sell their goods and services. The price for said goods and services is based either on supply and demand, or a set fee subsidized by a more socialist economy. A real-life doctor must spend an additional 8-10 years to receive the necessary education for the profession; a real-life lawyer some 5-7 years. The price they charge for their services is based in part upon the effort they have expended to achieve a valued expertise. However, the economy of all professions is intertwined. A doctor cannot practice medicine without the support of nurses to tend patients, accountants to handle finances, lawyers to handle legal matters, janitors to keep the place clean, and even transportation specialists to move the guy from home to hospital so he can practice his oh-so-godly craft. It is an overall economy. EVERYONE charges for their service, and every service is dependent upon the contribution of others.
Fast forward to Guild Wars. Do monks spend more time learning their craft? No. They are handed the basics at Ascalon, just like any other profession. Should they charge for their services? No, not unless warriors who keep the mobs off those monks so they live long enough to do their healing also charge a "bodyguard" fee... and the rangers who keep those pesky casters away can charge an "interrupt" fee... and elementals who are busy killing everything in sight can charge a "mass death to all enemies" fee.
Say, one of my characters is a W/Mo. Can she charge once for tanking, and again for healing and rez services? Aha, my GW money problems are over! Oooo.... greed is contagious! I must contemplate.
Your hospital scenario is flawed, BTW. Except in the practice of an absolutely utopian communist system which has never been implemented successfully on this planet, all citizens sell their goods and services. The price for said goods and services is based either on supply and demand, or a set fee subsidized by a more socialist economy. A real-life doctor must spend an additional 8-10 years to receive the necessary education for the profession; a real-life lawyer some 5-7 years. The price they charge for their services is based in part upon the effort they have expended to achieve a valued expertise. However, the economy of all professions is intertwined. A doctor cannot practice medicine without the support of nurses to tend patients, accountants to handle finances, lawyers to handle legal matters, janitors to keep the place clean, and even transportation specialists to move the guy from home to hospital so he can practice his oh-so-godly craft.
It is an overall economy. EVERYONE charges for their service, and every service is dependent upon the contribution of others. Fast forward to Guild Wars. Do monks spend more time learning their craft? No. They are handed the basics at Ascalon, just like any other profession. Should they charge for their services? No, not unless warriors who keep the mobs off those monks so they live long enough to do their healing also charge a "bodyguard" fee... and the rangers who keep those pesky casters away can charge an "interrupt" fee... and elementals who are busy killing everything in sight can charge a "mass death to all enemies" fee.
Say, one of my characters is a W/Mo. Can she charge once for tanking, and again for healing and rez services? Aha, my GW money problems are over! Oooo.... greed is contagious! I must contemplate.
hydrak
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Hey all. I started a thread about an hour ago asking how much charging monks charge for their services, seeing as their aren't that many monks in the later missions (Accension). What i didn't expect was the amount of critism I got. So after 3 pages of skim reading i finally got some useful comments. But an interesting idea popped up in that wee head of mine.
In some parts of the world, going to hospital is free (volunteers) And in other parts of the world, going to hospital will cost you. Yet people accept going to a hospital which charges, since they have the money. One could argue that a being a doctor is a profession and takes years of learning. Well the same goes for being a monk, getting to level 20 takes some time, and has a learning curve as well to be a good monk. Of course when real doctor's charge, most people wouldn't want to goto the super health care plan which costs an arm and a leg. Most average joes will just go for the simple effective one with piece and mind. Paracetamol is Paracetamol after all. But anyway, when i say charging i mean just average in this case. Now we know that charging monks do have their free brother alternative. Alesia and Lina. They are fine, and most people will use them. But if given the chance, most people will use a real monk, but as i've seen in the later mission the number of monks are quite low. So here's an example where I would, given the chance, choose to advertise my services. There are also those monks which are good, and those which are rubbish. Lets consider now that all those charging will be GOOD monks. So. Whats your opinion? And why? (Please if your AGAINST THIS. Just say it, in a proper manner, nothing like "U suck") |
The monks who charge for their services belong to the class of MORONIC GW players. It's unfortunate that these morons only play monks, thus giving the other monks a bad name.
kleps
i wont pay for any monks or anyone rushing me through missions. i can simply do quests/missions just as easily with PUGs, which may take a few tries at the harder missions, or with henchies, easier unless your PUG is organized.
Aniewiel
I am categorically against monks or any other character getting "paid to play" or for running others to places low-level characters shouldn't be. HOWEVER....I also realize that there's a market out there for them. Sad to say but true, right?
I would NOT pay for a monk. My monk char would NEVER charge but if someone's going to turn a buck on it, I guess they'll do it regardless of my opinion.
I would NOT pay for a monk. My monk char would NEVER charge but if someone's going to turn a buck on it, I guess they'll do it regardless of my opinion.
Ferelle
It's a rather rediculous idea in my opinion. But, then again it really provides me
with a great way to filter out the jerkwad monks. Most the folks with this
mentality I find that I'd rather not group with anyway. Hell, you can do nearly
all missions (if not all) with Henchmen just as easily if not more so.
On another note, so why can't the other classes charge the monks for
tanking, killing and pulling for monks? Should the monk be charged whenever
people die? Can they be docked their "pay" for bad attitude and customer
service? This is a game, not some 9-5 job. Give me a break.
I'm a monk and if I end up in a group catering to another player by paying
them to do what their class does, I'll leave and you can cough up even more
money for another asshat monk.Chances are, the groups offering to pay
monks for "services" are crappy ones anyhow. I'm betting the monks doing
this and actually being paid are sittting behind their computers laughing their
asses off. I would be.
The people offering to pay other players or bending to this kind of greed are
just as bad in my opinion and I'd just as well avoid those people too. Don't
offer me money, I'm not a prostitute.
with a great way to filter out the jerkwad monks. Most the folks with this
mentality I find that I'd rather not group with anyway. Hell, you can do nearly
all missions (if not all) with Henchmen just as easily if not more so.
On another note, so why can't the other classes charge the monks for
tanking, killing and pulling for monks? Should the monk be charged whenever
people die? Can they be docked their "pay" for bad attitude and customer
service? This is a game, not some 9-5 job. Give me a break.
I'm a monk and if I end up in a group catering to another player by paying
them to do what their class does, I'll leave and you can cough up even more
money for another asshat monk.Chances are, the groups offering to pay
monks for "services" are crappy ones anyhow. I'm betting the monks doing
this and actually being paid are sittting behind their computers laughing their
asses off. I would be.
The people offering to pay other players or bending to this kind of greed are
just as bad in my opinion and I'd just as well avoid those people too. Don't
offer me money, I'm not a prostitute.
Borealis
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I'm not ASSUMING anything....90% of the monks in this game are awful and I'd rather heal myself....so PROVE to me you are a good monk...BEFORE you ask for my money.
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Algren Cole
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Originally Posted by Darksci
I'm not asking for your money.
I'm asking a straight forward question. If a monk was GOOD, and he charged for his service, (oh and lets say he already proved he was a good monk by i dunno, doing the previous mission with you) would you pay for his service? YES/NO ? |
Xonic
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i wont pay for any monks or anyone rushing me through missions. i can simply do quests/missions just as easily with PUGs, which may take a few tries at the harder missions, or with henchies, easier unless your PUG is organized.
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Good players > henchmen > bad players
Algren Cole
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Thats the kind of statement that makes a monk want to charge or to piss on that invite you just sent to them. I'll just assume I'm in that 90% so, thanks alot....and for the rest of the 90%, we appreciate that comment....
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you can take that statement and replace monk with any class you'd like...90% of the people that play this game are awful.
noblepaladin
The teamwork aspect of it makes the system highly unstable. First of all, there is no way to determine whether the Monk is a scammer or whether is good or not. Secondly, a team that hires a Monk expects miracles and expects that they can charge in blindly without worrying about death. No monk can heal 7 people fast enough. A good group wouldn't need to hire a Monk, in fact good groups can adapt their skills so that they can complete any mission without a Monk at all. This leads to alot of finger pointing and blaming = VERY VERY BAD situation.
moonshadow
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Some people get so upset when they learn some monks charge for services. To that I say have fun waiting around for a monk for 30 minutes, only to get killed because the one you found (or healer henchie) sucks and you end up doing the mission 12 times. Be smart about it. I've done both, charged for services and paid for them (with other characters). I think it was Thirsty River where I kept gettting newb monk after newb monk (with looong waits inbetween searching for monks) until I heard someone saying they were very experienced and would help for 1k. Sure its a risk that he could be horrible too, but it turned out that he wasn't and we completed the mission. So, my point is, don't get upset when you see monks selling services because it's a legit service that can save lots of time and frustration. And if you do get upset and feel the need to message something, no worries, I'll be perfectly content knowing you'll be messaging 'Group LF Monk for last spot' for an hour only to fail the mission again.
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Teufel Eldritch
I will never pay anyone to go on a mission be they Monk, Ranger, Warrior or whatever. NEVER. Anyone that does accept payment will never knowingly be invited into my groups. I will never join a group that has purchased the services of another player.
Damon Windwalker
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Originally Posted by Aniewiel
I am categorically against monks or any other character getting "paid to play" or for running others to places low-level characters shouldn't be.(
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Aniewiel
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As am I. But what about basically hiring out to be a henchie?
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theclam
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I will never pay anyone to go on a mission be they Monk, Ranger, Warrior or whatever. NEVER. Anyone that does accept payment will never knowingly be invited into my groups. I will never join a group that has purchased the services of another player.
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Darksci
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Originally Posted by noblepaladin
The teamwork aspect of it makes the system highly unstable. First of all, there is no way to determine whether the Monk is a scammer or whether is good or not. Secondly, a team that hires a Monk expects miracles and expects that they can charge in blindly without worrying about death. No monk can heal 7 people fast enough. A good group wouldn't need to hire a Monk, in fact good groups can adapt their skills so that they can complete any mission without a Monk at all. This leads to alot of finger pointing and blaming = VERY VERY BAD situation.
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Or suppose that the monk was going to prove his worth by saying he'll only charge half way through. That way the rest of the players can see whether the monk is good or bad.
BTW comparing this to a runner. This is exactly the same.
A runner asks for money after a certain point (usually half the amount stated)
I guess i'll ammend my first post to include this - so as not to confuse people.
Stev0
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Hey all. I started a thread about an hour ago asking how much charging monks charge for their services, seeing as their aren't that many monks in the later missions (Accension). What i didn't expect was the amount of critism I got. So after 3 pages of skim reading i finally got some useful comments. But an interesting idea popped up in that wee head of mine.
In some parts of the world, going to hospital is free (volunteers) And in other parts of the world, going to hospital will cost you. Yet people accept going to a hospital which charges, since they have the money. One could argue that a being a doctor is a profession and takes years of learning. Well the same goes for being a monk, getting to level 20 takes some time, and has a learning curve as well to be a good monk. Of course when real doctor's charge, most people wouldn't want to goto the super health care plan which costs an arm and a leg. Most average joes will just go for the simple effective one with piece and mind. Paracetamol is Paracetamol after all. But anyway, when i say charging i mean just average in this case. Now we know that charging monks do have their free brother alternative. Alesia and Lina. They are fine, and most people will use them. But if given the chance, most people will use a real monk, but as i've seen in the later mission the number of monks are quite low. So here's an example where I would, given the chance, choose to advertise my services. There are also those monks which are good, and those which are rubbish. Lets consider now that all those charging will be GOOD monks. So. Whats your opinion? And why? (Please if your AGAINST THIS. Just say it, in a proper manner, nothing like "U suck") |
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Don't compare this with real life because you can't.
It's wholey unreasonable for one class to benefit monetarily for efforts that should be provided normally. In real life if you don't have cash you die. In this game every class gives in their own way. Without Warriors to block heavy hitters the lighter armored players would get stomped. Without Rangers the group would be picked off tactically by unreachable opponents. Without Mesmers incoming heavey hitting spells would always get through. Without Elementalists you would be missing the heavy artillery pounding on creatures in groups and getting through the defences Rangers and Warriors cannot. Without Necros you cannot gain the benefits of the fallen to swell your ranks and weigh down strong enemies and finally; Without Monks to help prop up the wounded and provide defensive aid to the group. Remove anyone of those ESTABLISHED positions in the party and the whole thing comes down like a house of cards. Should anyone gain more than another? No. If people give freely for good play then yes go ahead give a reward to a fellow player that does a superb job. Asking for cash for something that comes naturally is ridiculous because a Monk is NOTHING without the rest of the party. |
Sure I guess I can apply to real life what I say above.
A Doctor can cure and charge for it. But then should'nt the person who provides his security? The person who cleans/maintains/keeps up the hospitol? The person who provides him with food? The person who provides him with shelter/upkeep? The person who sells him other goods and services?
Everyone gets paid or no one gets paid. That all there is to it and I don't see anyone getting anything for free.
So when I adventure. Anyone that adventures with me gets support from me because I expect it from them. I expect everyone in the group to do their part. I expect someone with the most knowledge and shows the most trust to take charge. I expect the group to work together. Your survival is your payment, everything beyond that is a bonus.
Osangar
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I'm speaking of a hypthetical situation. ASSUME that the monk who's charging is a Good monk, and won't quit, and won't scam.
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Kershent
Why would you actually charge money? You get a cut of the loot.
Everyone does realize that you're paying henchies, right? They get loot drops like everyone else. So why would I pay someone, when they'll get payed just by being in the group?
Not to mention it's very sleazy to do this sort of thing. You're taking advantage of people who are desperate for healers. Pretty lame.
Everyone does realize that you're paying henchies, right? They get loot drops like everyone else. So why would I pay someone, when they'll get payed just by being in the group?
Not to mention it's very sleazy to do this sort of thing. You're taking advantage of people who are desperate for healers. Pretty lame.
Drakenbow
You make an excellent point Kershent... This is precisely the reason I disagree with paying. Although, as I mentioned before... I might pay someone extra gold to help me out if I feel it was worth it, but it's a long shot.
Halmyr
I think its because monks are overrated. there are not enof and its one of the only class that can substain its self alone, foe example a group of 6 monk could survive alone, but 6 war no, they depend on the monk, necro would have a bit of a hard time( they have blood but its enrgie cost grows fast). Ele, unless they kill fast, spike group type thing, there dead. same for mesmer. as for ranger, they all must carry troll regen. Not only that but monk can also deal nice dmg whit smiting. thing like shield of jugment hurt alot. I say we would have to make the monk more dpendate of other clas. aka warriors to defend them. because even a good monk can tank, even if the war should do it. heck Y dont I become a monk a heal ppl. all you do is sit back and make sure ppl dont die simple, yes, unless the situation gets ugly.