I would like my Weekly Nerfing please :D

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Xeno Demachilo
Frost Gate Guardian
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(Sarcasm)
Dont they normally Nerf on wednesdays? Woops..I mean update.. I know they skipped an update about a week ago, But i think we need to know a forsure day of the week , and how often (every 2 weeks, every week, every month, etc.) So we can all get in that last tiny bit of farming in before our beloved spot gets hit with a nerf bat

(/Sarcasm)

Enjoy your day everyone.
Lasareth
Lasareth
Aquarius
#2
:/ I'm hoping next week's update contains the live sorrow's furnace or whatever it's called region. I'm getting really bored with pve ><;
Kaylynn Of Ascalon
Kaylynn Of Ascalon
Frost Gate Guardian
#3
ha ha ha.
Ultimate_Gaara
Ultimate_Gaara
Desert Nomad
#4
Oh yes, god forbid they take out drops, the secret plot behind this game, i hear they wanted to actualy call it "Drop Wars: Farm for you life" i cant wait will they make it rain rares again!

/sarcasm

Im not saying pointing fingers at anyone, this is to all farmers in general

Dear farmers:

Please keep your nerfing storys to yourself, all i ever see is "nerf this" and "nerf that", ive said it more times than ive said my own name, GW is not about items, nor will it ever be, i feel like im the only one who knows what the word "rare" means around here. Everyone can see drops are down, but not all of us base our lives like bots "log on, kill, pick up items/gain exp, sell, roll around in money" (ill wait for flames about that comment, even though you know its true [ill wait for even more on that one]), i find it funny how farmers blame Anet for nerfing when in truth they are doing their own doom (of course bots help out.. a little) every time i see Anet nerf something i raise my glass to them, they are doing what they should (sadly many people who play are a bunch of whiny little farmers [once again ill wait for flames, but please no one wants to hear you complaine so keep them to PMs so i can delete them with out reading]) Anet has the right to what they want to their game, they run the show around here, not you. Dont like it?, i hear making gold in D2 is easyer than ever, so go there

- *that word that should be here and ends with an "S"* Your local butter cup Ultimate_Gaara

Ps notes: Keep your flames to me to PMs so i can delete them without having to read

Also i would love to see a picture of text from the box that says "Prove yourself in a world where drops are uber and you can find a max 5:1 rare Giant Axe" or anything drop related

Kthnk, End rant
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Watersong
Academy Page
#5
Well, if items aren't so paramount, why not make them more common?
Thanas
Thanas
Krytan Explorer
#6
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Originally Posted by Watersong
Well, if items aren't so paramount, why not make them more common?
That has to be the most ridiculous comment I've ever come across. Please read what people write. The game isn't about items. I am indeed sick and tired of whiny farmers who do not understand this game at all.
Ultimate_Gaara
Ultimate_Gaara
Desert Nomad
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Originally Posted by Watersong
Well, if items aren't so paramount, why not make them more common?
if the point of the game is not items then they should be reduced

/common scence

The only reason people complain is because Anet made the mistake of starting with high drops and then removing them... if it was the other way around people would think diffrently.. sad really
Sagius Truthbarron
Sagius Truthbarron
Desert Nomad
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The game isn't really about "Hey, I killed the same monster and opened the same box for two years and lookey! 100 billion goldzorz!" if you want money, just ascend and go hunt Fissure of Woe instead of charr hides.

If you want to bot then go play Star Wars Galaxies.

I can see the want to be able to easily solo places and run through areas that are considerably lower levels than you - I would consider that fun. But not getting an extra rare Godly Swordsmen Gladius of Improved Swordsmenship +20% damage when health is above 50% and 75+ health.

O.o
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Watersong
Academy Page
#9
No, but if items really don't matter, where's the harm in making them more common? Everybody would have the same opportunities. That's what they tried to do with the faction system. Let everybody have a chance to have X item. Unfortunately, for PVE characters/players that's not quite an option. Hence, farming of monsters is needed to find X item as is farming of players for faction points to afford X item for a PVP character.

I mean, think about it. Not only does it introduce balance of "special" items for PVE characters, it would mean less farming. Why do people farm? To get gold. Why do people need gold? To afford items. What happens when you can get an item easily? Price goes down and people farm less.
Ultimate_Gaara
Ultimate_Gaara
Desert Nomad
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Originally Posted by Watersong

I mean, think about it. Not only does it introduce balance of "special" items for PVE characters, it would mean less farming. Why do people farm? To get gold. Why do people need gold? To afford items. What happens when you can get an item easily? Price goes down and people farm less.
sorry to bring you into reality, but nothing will stop farming, more items just means more money, which is what they want, adding more drops will solve nothing
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Watersong
Academy Page
#11
But what would they do with money? Nothing. Suddenly your amount of gold doesn't matter anymore.
Ultimate_Gaara
Ultimate_Gaara
Desert Nomad
#12
I bet half of the people who farm dont even really "need" the money... and everyone seems to think Anet intended to make a game where you can get the best wepon and armor in one day.. newflash, nothing comes that easy (unless you played the first few days)
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Watersong
Academy Page
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Originally Posted by Ultimate_Gaara
newflash, nothing comes that easy (unless you played the first few days)
...Huh? So, you're saying that people should work (farm) for their items?

Sorry, but your posts are really confusing.
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Saerden
Lion's Arch Merchant
#14
Ahaha good thread:

This game is not about items, so lets only have a selected few (hardcore players / lucky ones) have the best items aviable as nothing comes easy



By nerfing farming spots, reducing drops, and removing UAS, ANET made this game to be about items and "loot" (faction is loot more or less, and can be farmed, see PANK)... because in betas, everyone had everything, did not bother about it but instead cared about player skills...

Oh and the regular game:

150h played, no sup runes, did all the missions in the game with a wa / mo, and am in the desert with a ranger. Also have a useless necro stuck in Northern shiverpeaks. I made more money farming for 2h (and unlocked more minor runes) then i made playing the game for 20h. And i farmed a poor farming spot... next weekend, ill be farming a real one...

Yes, having hardcore players with 1,4m gold doing absolutely nothing is SOOO much worse then having a casual player who will actually see some good weapon upgrades and unlock more then one major rune in 100h... GG ANET, the farming company...

TO those who still dont understand:

Anet helps farming by totally nerfing the loot drops / skill aquisition. Do you really think i would farm if i had all the skills unlocked? But do you really think i would play this game for the 3rd time instead of farming gold (unided sup runes) and weapons ( more gold / weapon upgrades) and exp at the same time, and at a much faster pace?
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Watersong
Academy Page
#15
THANK you. God, I thought I was crazy or something.

It was about time someone with common SENSE (with an 'S') came along... Myself excluded.
Kabale
Kabale
Wilds Pathfinder
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By nerfing farming spots, reducing drops, and removing UAS, ANET made this game to be about items and "loot" (faction is loot more or less, and can be farmed, see PANK)... because in betas, everyone had everything, did not bother about it but instead cared about player skills...
What's so hard with concentrating on the SKILLS and THEN going for the items???? It's that simple, why waste your time trying to get items when you should be getting skills first?
So you say you can't any further in the game cos your skills suck and you think items will improve you, thats bs, you should just rethink your build. Skills have more effect on the outcome of a battle than what you're wearing (unless of course you're stupid enough to walk around naked).

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...Huh? So, you're saying that people should work (farm) for their items?
If you're that bent on getting items you're in the wrong game.

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But what would they do with money? Nothing. Suddenly your amount of gold doesn't matter anymore.
How sad is that? An economy that doesn't work, ala Diablo2. I WANT my money to have value, if there's too much of it around why have it in the first place??
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Watersong
Academy Page
#17
I don't think skills is an issue. Besides, by your reasoning people should get skills first? You do know that most of the time there's no limit to someone's "skills". You can (almost) always improve.

Items can be outgrown. Your "skill" can be limited by it. They can also expand your "skill" by introducing new things. I never had a zealous or vampiric string. I never found one. But when I bought one, I found a lot of ways of how not to use it.
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Watersong
Academy Page
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Originally Posted by Kabale
If you're that bent on getting items you're in the wrong game.



How sad is that? An economy that doesn't work, ala Diablo2. I WANT my money to have value, if there's too much of it around why have it in the first place??
Oh, I'm not really bent on gettings items. I'm just trying everything in the game. I've been expirementing with lots of different builds for my ranger but items DO play a role.

The economy in this game is stupid. They don't want you to farm, but they still want you to buy things. How do you get the gold to buy things? You "play" the game... Again. Sounds like farming to me. It's not quite as specific but it's still farming.
Kabale
Kabale
Wilds Pathfinder
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Items can be outgrown. Your "skill" can be limited by it. They can also expand your "skill" by introducing new things. I never had a zealous or vampiric string. I never found one. But when I bought one, I found a lot of ways of how not to use it.
Then why did u buy it??

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Oh, I'm not really bent on gettings items.
Then why are you complaining??

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How do you get the gold to buy things? You "play" the game... Again. Sounds like farming to me. It's not quite as specific but it's still farming.
It depends on what you call farming. 'Farming' sounds to me, according to the many threads about it here, meaning going to some spot that always drops a certain amount of valuable stuff and going there for X number of times.
This is not what I, and I think the majority of the gaming community, call "playing the game". You should be happy that the farming spots have been nerfed, because now you can get just the same amount of goodies by playing the game normally as you would if you would farm. Sounds like you're just too impatient and want it all now...
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Watersong
Academy Page
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Then why did u buy it??
"Results? Why, man, I have gotten lots of results! If I find 10,000 ways something won't work, I haven't failed. I am not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is often a step forward.... " - Thomas Edison.

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Then why are you complaining??
Well, when there's something broken, it's selfish to complain only when it affects you. That and I like a good discussion.

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It depends on what you call farming. 'Farming' sounds to me, according to the many threads about it here, meaning going to some spot that always drops a certain amount of valuable stuff and going there for X number of times.
Well, I've already played through the VERY linear, VERY dull, VERY predictable game. I put up with idiots, newbs, griefers, and jerks. Why on Earth would I go through it again? Henchmen would save me some annoyance but they steal from my pockets, inevitably causing myself to lose out on gold.



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Farming is a form of hunting where a player kills monsters in the game for the money and items that the monster carries. Players who farm usually camp an area, kill monsters as they spawn, collect the loot, and later sell the items to others.
What do you do when you play through the game? You KILL MONSTERS in the game. What should (according to you) gold seekers do as an alternative to farming one spot? Play the game. But wait, all you're really doing is expanding the area you're farming to every area in the game.

I don't think "playing the game" should be limited to following the storyline.

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Sounds like you're just too impatient and want it all now...
Sounds like you're quick to throw insults around.