guys, calm down, maybe hes sarcastic?
btw, hes in Nu.
I would like my Weekly Nerfing please :D
KuTeBaka
Puddin Tame
You CAN get the uber weapons with max damage mods and all that quite easily, just not as fancy. Can anyone say COLLECTERS? I hear there are the most marvelous ones in the crystal desert. For 5 mountain troll tusks I can get a max damage req 9 shortbow with +15% when health is above 50%. Only problem it is blue, and an ascalon bow. WHO CARES? I stuck a 5:1 vampiric string on that sucker. There is stuff that would go for 50k+ if purchased from a player. That is how Anet intended it to be. If you really NEED that extra 2% damage, go find a collecter or quest for it, if you haven't already got it by the desert/shiverpeaks.
Rulke
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I stuck a 5:1 vampiric string on that sucker. There is stuff that would go for 50k+ if purchased from a player.
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What we really need is some way of letting PvP characters get stuff for PvE characters (PvE characters can PvE characters and PvP characters, and PvP characters can aid PvP characters. One last link)
BTW, I farm a bit. This is for ten minutes or so, before I go back to helping friends out with missions and stuff, or training up my other chars. For me, farming is fun because it forces me to find a build that can, using only 8 skills, beat enemies of a higher level, normally in groups. It's a challenge. I don't do it to get a godly uber sword of godslaying.
EDIT: Had a look on the trade section. A 5:1 Vampiric Bow String went for 75k.
Check it out here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=34474
Da Cebuano
Its official though, PvE is only that, player vs enemy, meaning you only should play the game to finish it, collect skills and from there concentrate on pVp. Farming or any kind of game interaction outside of doing quest for XP, finishing the game, pve is almost non existant now. Drops have been nerfed so bad that in a few weeks or month, items will probly sky rocket in price since drops are between here and there. Only the rich can afford things and the game is currently overrun w/ newbs who want their 20k fellblade w/ 15>50 or a stormbow w/ mods for 5k. I don't know about you guys, but hearing from people "this is getting boring" kinda makes you reflect on things. Game is only 2 months or so old and have faced more nerfs than most games out there. THey're hurting the people that who aren't hardcore pvp, game isn't just about that, thing were so much better a month ago, its just horrid now, why cant they just leave something that isn't broken.
Xonic
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Its official though, PvE is only that, player vs enemy, meaning you only should play the game to finish it, collect skills and from there concentrate on pVp. Farming or any kind of game interaction outside of doing quest for XP, finishing the game, pvp is almost non existant now. Drops have been nerfed so bad that in a few weeks or month, items will probly sky rocket in price since drops are between here and there. Only the rich can afford things and the game is currently overrun w/ newbs who want their 20k fellblade w/ 15>50 or a stormbow w/ mods for 5k. I don't know about you guys, but hearing from people "this is getting boring" kinda makes you reflect on things. Game is only 2 months or so old and have faced more nerfs than most games out there. THey're hurting the people that who aren't hardcore pvp, game isn't just about that, thing were so much better a month ago, its just horrid now, why cant they just leave something that isn't broken.
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Cap'n Hoek
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Originally Posted by generik
You can get 5 bleached shells in an hour? $10 says you are exaggerating.
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Your own personal satisfaction in regards to your characters' appearances does not concern me in any way, so what if you are happy about it? People ARE currently working for it.
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Haha, you really crack me up.
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Sorry bud, I do not farm, but I can tell that farm != EASY. If you think it is that easy, why don't you go and farm? And pray tell.. but how do you quantify "work"?
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Not everyone is like you, having the ability to spend their summer school holidays playing GW, while mummy and daddy brings home the bread and butter you know.
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Algren Cole
Work = Distance/Time
Da Cebuano
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Originally Posted by Xonic
every newbie should have the best items in the game with very little to almost no effort. is that what I hear?
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All I'm saying is that problems that have arised/accumulated wasn't such a problem a month ago, they ruined the game w/ their updates that weren't necessary. Some updates were good. W/ the factions/improved interface and bug fixes. However they should've left everything else intact.
Epinephrine
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Work = Distance/Time
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Work = |Force|*|displacement|*cosine(theta) where theta is the angle between the Force vector and the displacement vector. You could call it the dot product of Force and displacement, or W=F.d; In simple cases in which the force is in the same direction as the resulting movement W=|F|*|d|
kleps
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Work = Distance/Time
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Someone who failed physics? Speed=Distance/Time
Work = Force*Displacement*cosine(theta) where theta is the angle between the Force vector and the Displacement vector. You could call it the dot product of Force and Displacement. |
Algren Cole
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Someone who failed physics? Speed=Distance/Time
Work = Force*displacement*cosine(theta) where theta is the angle between the Force vector and the displacement vector. You could call it the dot product of Force and Displacement. In simple cases in which the force is in the same direction as the resulting movement W=F*d |
wow...I was kidding much?
Epinephrine
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wow...I was kidding much?
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Nizzim
I love how people feel the need to express their hatred for one another through this game.
"I cant play this game day in and day out on PVP, but i deserve the same benefits as the grinders"
No.....you dont, anyone that thinks you do is, pardon my saying this, a child at best.
We all want this gay fairness and everyone is afraid of having a little bit of variety in the characters.
"Well yeah you can grind for four hours in fissure and give up 300k to get this armor that only looks a little better, but we're not gonna give it better stats. That wouldnt be fair"
^^^ WHAT????
What isnt "fair" to me, and I'm probably off topic but what do i care, is that kids can join up on pvp and jump striaght to the top of the pryamid with no work whatsoever.
Whereas, the PVE'ers, who struggle and play quality game time to get armor that should help you excell, get jack sh*t. It's bogus
"I cant play this game day in and day out on PVP, but i deserve the same benefits as the grinders"
No.....you dont, anyone that thinks you do is, pardon my saying this, a child at best.
We all want this gay fairness and everyone is afraid of having a little bit of variety in the characters.
"Well yeah you can grind for four hours in fissure and give up 300k to get this armor that only looks a little better, but we're not gonna give it better stats. That wouldnt be fair"
^^^ WHAT????
What isnt "fair" to me, and I'm probably off topic but what do i care, is that kids can join up on pvp and jump striaght to the top of the pryamid with no work whatsoever.
Whereas, the PVE'ers, who struggle and play quality game time to get armor that should help you excell, get jack sh*t. It's bogus
Epinephrine
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What isnt "fair" to me, and I'm probably off topic but what do i care, is that kids can join up on pvp and jump striaght to the top of the pryamid with no work whatsoever.
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Skill, not hours played.
Nizzim
No i dont miss the point of the game.
Im saying its so stupid to bother putting these armors in if theyre not gonna do anything.
Im saying its so stupid to bother putting these armors in if theyre not gonna do anything.
Xonic
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No, you need a hearing aid, you missed the point by a mile. I'm saying the influx of newbs dont realize the rarity of things and want to buy things cheap. The sellers who do know the value want to sell for such. Its a chicken/egg situation. Also, if you have been farming at high level, more than likely you are very far along. Also, having items priced as such, keeps newbies away from the more powerful items ingame. Now thing is, w/ the continued nerfing.... err updating, things will become so expensive that those newbies that started out will at some point be never be afford to do anything or buy. Trader prices are whacked, they say its due to supply and demand that the AI balances the prices. However thats not true, trader prices rise so drastically yet never seems to go down, even w/ people selling to trader.
All I'm saying is that problems that have arised/accumulated wasn't such a problem a month ago, they ruined the game w/ their updates that weren't necessary. Some updates were good. W/ the factions/improved interface and bug fixes. However they should've left everything else intact. |
Still being a newbie myself, I have no problem with being so poor and can't afford the prices for a GODLY MAX DMG DRAGON SWORD being spammed in local channel. I know I'll get on my hands on one when I need it, by one of the means mentioned above.
I have limited experiece with trader prices. but it does both increase and decrease from what I've seen. I was checking silver dye prices. few days ago traders were buying at 700+ gold, last night they were offering 200 gold.
Nizzim
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Wow, miss the point of the game much? Go play WoW.
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If its skill and not hours played, then why bother trying to blend PVE and PVP?
Why bother having a PVE period? If the only point of the game is to climb the pvp ladder then lets just take out pve entirely
Algren Cole
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Never kid when it's science.
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meh...I was never a science fan...
Computer Science...what an oxymoron
Nizzim: you fell victim to a marketing scam that the rest of the PvE community did...except for the minute faction of people that KNEW it was a marketing scam but didn't care. The PvE aspect of this game was simply to "trick" RPGers into buying the game. You've never wondered why it lacked so much in RPG quality?? It more than makes up for it in gameplay...but the gameplay was built and designed around PvP.
Epinephrine
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No i dont miss the point of the game.
Im saying its so stupid to bother putting these armors in if theyre not gonna do anything. |
Dye doesn't do anything, but it's fun.
Having beautiful graphics doesn't actually do anything, but it's pretty.
Having 20 types of sword that don't behave any differently doesn't broaden the combat system, but theyre neat.
A new set of armour is for esthetic purposes, like dye, multiple types of sword, axe and hammer, and all the emotes.
Nizzim
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/dance doesn't do anything, but it's fun.
Dye doesn't do anything, but it's fun. Having beautiful graphics doesn't actually do anything, but it's pretty. Having 20 types of sword that don't behave any differently doesn't broaden the combat system, but theyre neat. A new set of armour is for esthetic purposes, like dye, multiple types of sword, axe and hammer, and all the emotes. |
yes but dye and dances werent just half assed ideas.
Those have been in mmo's for a long time
Having armor that takes longer to get should be better, thats the flat line.
Algren: damnit, you're right. Why didnt I see that? DAMN YOUSE ANET
Epinephrine
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yes but dye and dances werent just half assed ideas.
Those have been in mmo's for a long time Having armor that takes longer to get should be better, thats the flat line. |
Nizzim
then dont put it in period.
100 of the same weapon found in the same location will 9/10 times have a dmg of 1-2 points difference.
NOTHING IN THIS GAME STICKS OUT.
armor is pointless and if theres no benefits to reap from it, then take it out
fissure and ascention that is
100 of the same weapon found in the same location will 9/10 times have a dmg of 1-2 points difference.
NOTHING IN THIS GAME STICKS OUT.
armor is pointless and if theres no benefits to reap from it, then take it out
fissure and ascention that is
Cap'n Hoek
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Originally Posted by Nizzim
NOTHING IN THIS GAME STICKS OUT.
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hydrak
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yes but dye and dances werent just half assed ideas.
Those have been in mmo's for a long time Having armor that takes longer to get should be better, thats the flat line. |
Thanas
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No i dont miss the point of the game.
Im saying its so stupid to bother putting these armors in if theyre not gonna do anything. |
Nizzim
who are you shakespeare
Im saying if were not gonna go anywhere with these items, then theres no point having them.
It's all skills and skill-based, no need to have fissure armor and max dmg bullcrap
Im saying if were not gonna go anywhere with these items, then theres no point having them.
It's all skills and skill-based, no need to have fissure armor and max dmg bullcrap
kleps
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then dont put it in period.
100 of the same weapon found in the same location will 9/10 times have a dmg of 1-2 points difference. NOTHING IN THIS GAME STICKS OUT. armor is pointless and if theres no benefits to reap from it, then take it out fissure and ascention that is |
aesthetics stick out. scenery sticks out. fissure and uw are damn fun to do as they take teamwork and a long time.
this game is built on team play, not the ability to solo everything with hacked items.
also, the game is still very young as there is a lot of expansion hinted upon by the developers, not to mention they constantly update the game for us.
i'm not flaming you, but if you dont like the game you dont necessarily have to play it.
Thanas
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Hahahahaha. Oh dear. This is quite a sad state of affairs!
Nizzim
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Originally Posted by kleps
the game is pretty much about balance, which is why weapons have similar stats. skill is where the game differs. you dont see the hacks that you see in other games like diablo 2.
aesthetics stick out. scenery sticks out. fissure and uw are damn fun to do as they take teamwork and a long time. this game is built on team play, not the ability to solo everything with hacked items. also, the game is still very young as there is a lot of expansion hinted upon by the developers, not to mention they constantly update the game for us. i'm not flaming you, but if you dont like the game you dont necessarily have to play it. |
no i meant fissure and ascention armors.
I love fissure and uw, their the only reason i play it now a days.
I pvp occassionaly, but no one wants fire eles anymore.
Thanas
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who are you shakespeare
Im saying if were not gonna go anywhere with these items, then theres no point having them. It's all skills and skill-based, no need to have fissure armor and max dmg bullcrap |
However you are right that the game is primarily about the skills.
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flyingbunnys
Does anyone remember the days of Diablo II. When you had lots of gold and could get absolutly nothing for it except your armor repaired? Any one remember how worthless gold was? I really don't want guild wars to be like that I would like my gold to be worth something, even if that requires it to be harder to get. If you really want to think about it what is they suddenly added more euros and dollars to the economy, doesn't work now does it. Inflation ever heard of it, happens in real life too.
Xonic
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Does anyone remember the days of Diablo II. When you had lots of gold and could get absolutly nothing for it except your armor repaired? Any one remember how worthless gold was? I really don't want guild wars to be like that I would like my gold to be worth something, even if that requires it to be harder to get. If you really want to think about it what is they suddenly added more euros and dollars to the economy, doesn't work now does it. Inflation ever heard of it, happens in real life too.
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Everyone had a dozen or two SoJs...
Nizzim
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How did you come to the conclusion that I'm Shakespeare? Anyway I completely disagree. There is a point to these items, for one they act as a gold sink. Also you'll find some people enjoy a change in appearance. But IMHO these items do act as a reward to players who have played for an extended period of time. However the aquisition of such items does not put these players at such an advatage as to unbalance the game and alienate those who play the game on an infrequent basis. The game, you will find is finely balanced with regards to weapons and armour, so as to prevent such an occurence.
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OH and you said baited breath, very shakespearian
EDIT: Ah yes, Soj's. Things you could wear that made you better....sigh