Ebay or not Ebay, that is the question.

I've seen some auctions got for as little as £2($4) for 100,000G.

100,000g isin't even that much money but is definatly worth it for the 30 hours plus it takes to get now that everythings been nerfed.

I never wanted to go to ebay to spend real life money on in game items, but it seems like i'll never be able to get the items i want cos everything so expensive and it's so hard to get money.

You've got to think about the time you have and the ratio of time spent to money earned, esp now that it's so hard to get decent stuff for normal prices.

It's better to spend £2 and 5 mins on ebay then it is to spend 15 or so hours in FoW, well, i dunno if it's "better", but it's more economical.


I'm not gonna ebay it but i'm seriously considering it, whats your views?

(p.s it's 6am over here and i been up all night so excuse the grammar and poor spelling.)

Well it's against the EULA I believe, and in some games you'll get checked out and possibly banned for it (not sure if ANet does that) The way I see it though, if you're willing to pay real money for an in-game item or in-game money, you're taking the game way too seriously. The game is supposed to be a challenge to earn the money and items, if you just buy it off EBay, where's the fun?

don't ever use real life money to buy pixels. Not worth it.

Especially on a night like tonight where black dye sold to the NPC vendor put 8+ plat in your inventory.

Isin't that what your doing when you purchase the game in the first place?.

Your paying someone for the hard work and time they put into creating something (game, IGmoney, scrips, research w/e).

Also, wether something is "fun" or not is besides the point, games are designed as competitions, and if going on ebay to buy a guide, money, weapons is going to give you an advantage then why not do it?.

No it isn't. It depends on how you legally word it, appearently. I've heard by a few in these types of discussions that if you put in the fine print that you are chraging, not for the ingame property that is owned by Anet, but the time you spent collecting it.

[QUOTE=ShinJin Kahn]Isin't that what your doing when you purchase the game in the first place?.

Your paying someone for the hard work and time they put into creating something (game, IGmoney, scrips, research w/e).QUOTE]

way to follow up your argument with something that doesn't prove it.

I need to set a macro that types : You do not need money in GW. Cause Im sick of typing it. You dont, you need Droks armor, which I have never had a problem buying once I have gotten there. Thats it, grab a collectors weapon, toss in a few good mods and your set. Sure, there a VERY slightly better gold weapons out there, why would you buy money on ebay for a 1.2% advantage? Maybe 1.2% is being generous too... Yes, its a made up stat. Anyhow, you dont need money, you will eventually find whatever it is you want to buy.

Or buy from people like me, I dont need money, I have alot of it. If I get an 'uber' weapon, I offer it to my guild, if no one needs it I sell it at the best price I can in 10-15 minutes. I see crap worse then Im selling go for 100k and over on these boards, and I never get more than 20k for anything.

Here is my latest sell: Gold Shield (graphic looks like a wall shield) I think it was a Defender. 16 Armor, Healing +1 15% when using skills, +35 Health while enchanted. Sold it for 9k. Now check the boards for shields like this, its unreal what you lemmings pay.

I like to roll around on the floor and laugh every time I ask "Is this a trapping quest or smiter group?" and one of the people says "OMG What you need xp for? Monay is where its at!"

With the massive costs of Ectoplasma and Shards i feel like buying some Gold on ebay to get my FoW armor. Though i would have to spend about 500 dollors im sure.

I was addressing your comment, not backing up my argument.

of course, you don't "need" it
but you may "want" it if you're thinking about buying the granite citadelle/fissure armors

ive said it before, so it wont hurt to say it again... if you spend real money for fake game money/itmes/etc you really need to take a step back and reevaluate your life.. basicly what im saying is no, fake money is not worth real money... by the way, GW isnt about "uber" items and 15k armor, so the money wont go to much use if thats what your planning on using it for... just a hot tip i thought you should know

The main problem with buying gold online is that you are justifying the methods of botters, because that's where this online money comes from. It will encourage them to run more bots for optimal profits, offsetting the danger of getting one of their accounts banned for botting on occasion. With your money, they can buy new accounts to start new bots.

Bots do nothing more than pump money into the economy, which can only cause inflation. Because they can go at it 24/7, a bot will earn much, much more money than a casual gamer does in a game. What this implies is that the general wealth will be with the botters, and with those people who buy gold on eBay. The casual gamers gradually have less and less power in the economy, until finally their only option is to give up on trying to earn their own gold, and buy it as well (if they can afford it, some will simply lose out). Which fuels bots, and things simply go further downhill from there.

This isn't an issue of whether or not you should earn your own money, or whether you really need it in the first place. This is an issue of what you want Guild Wars to become. Buy gold on eBay for whatever reason, and you move Guild Wars further towards a botter's paradise, while making the game less enjoyable to all the other players.

It has? Damn, good thing noone's told the drakes and the minotaurs and the griffons and the stone summit and the trolls, then.

Besides, what do you need 100 plat for? And why get a game if you're not interested in playing it?

If you don't mind spending real life money for gold, no one is going to stop you for trying. If you can get the item you want by doing that, sure, why not. The real problem is that gold is worthless in this game and the economy and traders in-game is in a trend to prevent gold farmers from profitting (in real life). While you are supporting the gold farmers, you're indirectly pushing the game towards a harder environment for regular players like yourself.

and if ANet bans you for using the services of a bot wel,l c'est la vie

GW Gold is worthless? Rofl, try telling that to the people who run the websites and make hundreds of $ selling it to players.

A.net are against it, it is a multi million dollar industry as it stands.
Sony have actually integrated an online auction facility for really money into some of its EQ2 servers, they ensure secure transactions, and that the players get the goods they pay for and take a commission.
£2 for 100,000 gold, if you want to go for it, its your cash. At the end of the day its about personal choice. £2 at the end of the day is no a lot of cash, you cannot buy alot with £2.
The only issues it raises are online security issues and online fraud. But seeing as this is an individuals choice it has nothing to do with A.net and neither are they liable if you do or don't.

If A.net really want to stop it, they would simply have to do it themselves.
Have an online website that sells items and gold that can be found in game for really money.
i.e. £1 for 100,000 gp direct, £1 for Max dam Gold Axe.

This would screw the economy, but compared to other trade based MMORPG's GW's hasn't got an enconomy it just has people shouting down a chat channel trying to sell max dam axe.
If you had a online trader that you could log onto and browse what people are selling, then it may work, even if people used their brains and sold collectors items. (not the staffs, but the items they where collecting, i.e. summit badges 2gp each, get yours here.) Alas this wouldn't work as GW economy is a chat channel.
The traders help, but, will leave it at that going off topic.

You are wasting real life TIME. And time is money. So i dont find it any different to spend money on getting something, than to spend time. And developers shouldnt try to ban these transactions, they should try to endorse them and make a profit out of it.

And yes money are completely and utter useless for gw and economy is completely broken. You pay more money to buy 10 steel from the material trader than to buy 10x 1 steel from the rare material trader.

The only really expensive things, are things that are identical with way cheaper ones but they just look cooler(fissure armor, crystaline sword, etc). If i want to get an item like that, i will have to play the game like 24/7 for like weeks. If i work or invest all those hours on something else(on a real life activity for example), i can get "more" in return. And instead of farming all those hours for such a stupid thing(to get a slightly cooler item), i pay an equally stupid ammount of real money and acquire it.

Time ppl. If you think someone who pays 2$ to buy something is an idiot, then what that makes someone who keeps slashing the same stupid rats/dragons/whatever for tenths of hours just to acquire the same thing? Personally, i think the first person is smarter than the second. But then again, there are priorities in life. Some ppl can spend tenths of hours doing the same repeatitive farming to get something that they want, while other ppl simply cant.

PS I have never paid real money to buy anything but i dont find it illogical or absurd to do it.

Well, I kinda feel like playing some golf today, but on the other hand, I am quite comfortable on this couch. Hmmm, maybe I'll hire someone to play golf for me.

It's just like that in my opinion. You pay for pixelated money which you don't really need to be successful in the game. You want it for frivolous expenditures, but not bad enough to actually acquire it yourself.

This game is and should be a voluntary recreational experience. not an all consuming, ego stroking toil fest.

Once you go down that road, you are forever a sad-ass individual.