I'm sure we're all aware of the trans-atlantic exodus taking place due to lack of favour in Europe.
So how long will it be before Europe stops winning favour altogether and American servers just collapse due to the added load of European migrators?
Being a European still faithful to our old world's servers, I'd ask Anet to seriously consider putting everyone back where he or she belongs. Sure, I'll be branded as Dr. Goebbels, the anti-Christ, Oprah Winfrey or even worse just for bringing this up, but I do think it would rebalance things a little for Europe.
So how exactly would this work? Well, by checking the user's IP, of course. There will always be ways to circumvent this system (by using IP spoofers and the likes), but it would get most people back home and fighting for their motherland.
As for trading and playing with people of the two other regions, we'll always have the International districts.
FOR SOVIET RUSSIA!!!
EDIT: See below for different suggestion.
Europeans back to Europe
Lagg
Nash
Europe can crash and burn. You wanna be a scrub letting arbitrary text labels dictate your teammates and your access to certain areas, whatever, just don't try to force the rest of us to join you in your misery.
sidepocket13
ok so europe had lag problems, and never had favor. so they are working on the lag and the players all came to america to get favor............ why not go back and help your countrymen with your new found skills playing in the american servers? not a flame, not a suggestion, its a question!
Numa Pompilius
I say let the US keep them.
Lagg
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Europe can crash and burn. You wanna be a scrub letting arbitrary text labels dictate your teammates and your access to certain areas, whatever, just don't try to force the rest of us to join you in your misery.
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Hardly arbitrary, I'd say.
Also, it's America that will crash and burn because of the huge amount of added strain.
By the time it took you to read this, at least one European switched to an American server*.
(*) Yes I just totally made that figure up. I should become a politician.
PieXags
Well one thing first, the American servers can definately handle the European players coming over.
Now then, other than that, I do think they should get their asses back over to European servers, either that or something should be done so that favor ISN'T SPLIT UP BY REAL-WORLD REGIONS...that way people could just choose to join a fictional faction, and it's those factions that compete...not the real world, then everyone'd be happy 'cause many people from all the countries could be in one faction kickin' all the other faction's asses.
Now then, other than that, I do think they should get their asses back over to European servers, either that or something should be done so that favor ISN'T SPLIT UP BY REAL-WORLD REGIONS...that way people could just choose to join a fictional faction, and it's those factions that compete...not the real world, then everyone'd be happy 'cause many people from all the countries could be in one faction kickin' all the other faction's asses.
Lagg
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Well one thing first, the American servers can definately handle the European players coming over.
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And even if the servers can handle all the influx, I don't think Anet would be too happy with "fully"-loaded American servers and only "half"-loaded European ones.
Anyways, a different suggestion.
Why not merge the American and European region? And then assign people to the geographically closest server, all the while staying in the same realm and fighting for the same cause.
United against Korea we stand.
medikamen
I totally disagree, loads of North Americans live in Europe and vice versa. Forcing people into servers they don't want to be in would create a lot of whining/complaining. I think the faction idea is really cool, it would give a World Of Warcraft kinda thing (orcs fight vs humans and vs undead and vs elves and whatever other commonly overused races there are in that game) , it's like being part of a micro community inside a community 
Plus, Koreans are getting very impopular on European servers, frustration leads people to say stupid stuff like "they always have the favor because they fight for food" *sigh*
Plus, Koreans are getting very impopular on European servers, frustration leads people to say stupid stuff like "they always have the favor because they fight for food" *sigh*
Nash
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Well, geographically speaking, you'll get better latency to European servers.
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Also, it's America that will crash and burn because of the huge amount of added strain.
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Now then, other than that, I do think they should get their asses back over to European servers,
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And even if the servers can handle all the influx, I don't think Anet would be too happy with "fully"-loaded American servers and only "half"-loaded European ones.
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Why not merge the American and European region?
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Numa Pompilius
Not that european servers are half loaded, at least not the English language servers. The heavy load is the reason we're getting lag.
Possibly we simply have fewer servers, of course. How many districts are there typically in post-searing Ascalon in the US?
Right now (8 o'clock in the evening) there's 23 districts in "european" Ascalon, out of which 8 English, 6 German, 6 French, 2 Spanish and 1 Italian. The English districts are well-populated, didn't check the others.
Possibly we simply have fewer servers, of course. How many districts are there typically in post-searing Ascalon in the US?
Right now (8 o'clock in the evening) there's 23 districts in "european" Ascalon, out of which 8 English, 6 German, 6 French, 2 Spanish and 1 Italian. The English districts are well-populated, didn't check the others.
johnnylange
I really hate it when people bring up all these racial remarks. 
"Lag" can be the result of many diffrent things. Unless you're job is manging the GW servers, you don't have a clue as to what the lag problem is.
"Lag" can be the result of many diffrent things. Unless you're job is manging the GW servers, you don't have a clue as to what the lag problem is.
Mugon M. Musashi
The idea to split the population of a virtual game by their real geographic location is just stupid anyway
I say ALL europeans, move to US servers and show ArenaNet we want a new system
I say ALL europeans, move to US servers and show ArenaNet we want a new system
Lagg
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The idea to split the population of a virtual game by their real geographic location is just stupid anyway
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In essence, it's not about latency, lag or ethnicity (why is there always someone who has to bring this up?), but about the fact that Europe isn't getting any favour since we have fewer players and hence fewer good teams.
It's simple statistics.
Speaking of which, who has favour most often? America or Korea?
ocoini
Uhm.. Last I heared, ALL the gw servers are located in America, even the korean ones...
Darriths Novastar
Straight from Arena Nets support website
"Question
How many servers does Guild Wars have?
Answer
Guild Wars has many servers located at data centers around the globe."
http://support.guildwars.com/cgi-bin...i=&p_topview=1
"Question
How many servers does Guild Wars have?
Answer
Guild Wars has many servers located at data centers around the globe."
http://support.guildwars.com/cgi-bin...i=&p_topview=1
Lagg
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Uhm.. Last I heared, ALL the gw servers are located in America, even the korean ones...
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Can anyone confirm this?
Mayar third Keeper
i changed to the american servers becaus of the waw system. i dont like it as it is atm and the only way to force anet to change it, is that more people join one server. Fortunatelly the waw system kills itselfs because people change to the server with the most favour. (i dont mention the american server is not only the server for the americans its the server of all none europeans/koreans)
i remeber the time befor waw and i remeber we were one community. Now we are dumb americans, stupid koreans and european losers... this makes me sad.
dont change back to europe until the changed this!
full ack!
i remeber the time befor waw and i remeber we were one community. Now we are dumb americans, stupid koreans and european losers... this makes me sad.
dont change back to europe until the changed this!
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DrSLUGFly
I think that it's impossible to discuss WaW even on the forums without it degrading into retarded nationalism... a key sign that it needs be done away with.
Darriths Novastar
Hate to be bother what is WaW anyway?
Silmor
As long as there is no International shard that has people fighting for it in order to gain favor, I'll stick to the shard that has the most of my guildmates on it- the American one. I don't need to be told who I can explore the Underworld with just because I live in a different country, World of Warcraft tried to do this and that was one of the major reasons why I decided not to buy it.
Lagg
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Hate to be bother what is WaW anyway?
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Yes, I'd like to know this too.
Elena
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Warld af Warcraft, af caurse!
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ktadie
wtf dose waw mean?
Aiden
Warning: (rude remark) ;-)
What the heck?!? Because Europe sucks America gets jacked?? Go to the Korean servers and mess them over...
What the heck?!? Because Europe sucks America gets jacked?? Go to the Korean servers and mess them over...
Mavrik
Let people play where they wanna play it makes no difference. I'm in international districts a lot to group with my european friends. I could care less if other europeans came over to play in american districts. Big deal.
DrSLUGFly
I went to america for favorable favor... but I don't like the waw system (worlds at war) because it encourages racism...
I'd prefer factions based on the GW gods
I'd prefer factions based on the GW gods
Fantus
Well, this has to be the petition I disagree with more than any other I have seen on this forum. Let people play where they want. Period. The current system is even too restrictive. Europe server sucks at the moment. Better solve the problems with that instead of forcing people to play. There is a REASON why everybody seems to pack and go.
Aniewiel
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I went to america for favorable favor... but I don't like the waw system (worlds at war) because it encourages racism...
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Timoz
I havent read half of the stuff people have written ok, but i kind of agree with this being from europe myself.
People here really do have no chance of improving if those people leaving stay in american servers etc and others keep switching..
But on the other hand i really can't blame some people for switching, i mean, look at half the teams formed in european servers. Without going into detail if americans and koreans could see the kind of teams that are formed they'd see what i mean, its an excuse of a team most of the time. People form pug teams and just go as soon as they get a full team just hoping for a miracle and some kind of free fame
Maybe people should be restricted from changing otherwise i guess this wont stop in euro servers, and after all, the international districts would still be open if they wanted to play with others.
Myself i feel almost embarrassed for europe and use the intern districts, but if i were asked if id change to American servers, the answers still no all the way. I dont see why this option is open in the first place, if people living in Europe are from america then switch your server to america straight away...
As for the lag, it really is stupid at the moment, i've been thrown off around 4-5times today at key points, but i dont think lag is much of an excuse to change as its not all that bad most of the time. ANet have already released statements saying they're trying to deal with it.
People here really do have no chance of improving if those people leaving stay in american servers etc and others keep switching..
But on the other hand i really can't blame some people for switching, i mean, look at half the teams formed in european servers. Without going into detail if americans and koreans could see the kind of teams that are formed they'd see what i mean, its an excuse of a team most of the time. People form pug teams and just go as soon as they get a full team just hoping for a miracle and some kind of free fame
Maybe people should be restricted from changing otherwise i guess this wont stop in euro servers, and after all, the international districts would still be open if they wanted to play with others.
Myself i feel almost embarrassed for europe and use the intern districts, but if i were asked if id change to American servers, the answers still no all the way. I dont see why this option is open in the first place, if people living in Europe are from america then switch your server to america straight away...
As for the lag, it really is stupid at the moment, i've been thrown off around 4-5times today at key points, but i dont think lag is much of an excuse to change as its not all that bad most of the time. ANet have already released statements saying they're trying to deal with it.
Plommon
I can truly say I never regretted moving to the american server...not only does everyone speak english, but alot of the Sweeds are there as well = )
PieXags
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And I should let you dictate what server I play on why?
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And to Lagg, I only said that because Gaile said so in one of her posts recently, she said the American servers could by all means take the extra haul. Though I'll agree I doubt they want American servers full and Euro servers empty.
I mainly think Europeans should stick to European servers for now, because that's what Gaile suggested in a post of hers a short while back, she said she'd recommend people just stick to the euro servers and see how things turn out in later updates, and I trust Anet's judgement personally.
Tactical-Dillusions
If i got sent back to Eurolag, i would quit.
PieXags
That's ok Tactical, you're the only one who can stay with us.
Lt.Crumpet
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Well one thing first, the American servers can definately handle the European players coming over.
Now then, other than that, I do think they should get their asses back over to European servers, either that or something should be done so that favor ISN'T SPLIT UP BY REAL-WORLD REGIONS...that way people could just choose to join a fictional faction, and it's those factions that compete...not the real world, then everyone'd be happy 'cause many people from all the countries could be in one faction kickin' all the other faction's asses. |
moving on to the main topic, i have several good european friends from GW, and forcing them over to europes servers would suck. also, europe has a few more languages than america; thats y most of my british friends came over to the american servers. let em stay i say!
PieXags
No no don't misunderstand, I believe that by all means players should be able to choose which servers they play on. When I say I think Europeans should play on euro servers I don't mean I think they should be forced to go, I just think people should choose to go back when the problems are fixed.
Never wanting someone to be forced anywhere.
Never wanting someone to be forced anywhere.
Aniewiel
What would be -nice- would be if each character could be 'associated' with different servers (if one so chose to do so). For instance:
Characters 1-2 America
Characters 3-4 Europe
That would be nice for gaming with International friends (two RL friends are in England) and would allow us to "visit" one another on the others' server.
Characters 1-2 America
Characters 3-4 Europe
That would be nice for gaming with International friends (two RL friends are in England) and would allow us to "visit" one another on the others' server.
Sandman Uk
The issue is Underworld and Fissue. Those players like Mavrik havent made it there yet by the look of it. If there were Favorship statistics for ownership it will read
Usa 48%
Korea 49%
Europe 3%
If I could change I proberbly would switch (Locked in Europe)
Eventually all PVE players will switch from Europe who wish to have Underworld access. Anet will have to address this issue. I dont think they could see Europe being so poor at PVP. Meglomania thing between USA and Korea.
The only people suffering are PVE Euopean players who are now switching.
Usa 48%
Korea 49%
Europe 3%
If I could change I proberbly would switch (Locked in Europe)
Eventually all PVE players will switch from Europe who wish to have Underworld access. Anet will have to address this issue. I dont think they could see Europe being so poor at PVP. Meglomania thing between USA and Korea.
The only people suffering are PVE Euopean players who are now switching.
Edge Martinez
Naming the Servers American, European and Korean was probably not the smartest move. But since things are the way they are, I'd say let people play where and how they want. The last thing I'm thinking about when I'm in PvP is America. I'm more concerned with shutting down that monk and keeping that fighter off my butt.
Fantus
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Anet will have to address this issue. I dont think they could see Europe being so poor at PVP. Meglomania thing between USA and Korea.
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There should be only two territorries: Korea and International. That would eliminate the need for territory switching. Problem gone...
Rayea
its not about how Euro having a lack of interest or broadband, its about AMOUNTS
granted, theres a sorry lack of good BB here in euro, but its about the Quantity and Quality of the players.
Korea has State run and set up cyber cafes, for godess sakes. and the USA is full of kids in thier basements, or peeps in thier lofts/basemnt/appartment ect that can get reasonable conections and are into handing each-other thier assess in baskets for fun
the reason most people are swarming usa servers is cause they want to get to UW for thier PvE armour.
this World at War (waw or better War of Worlds) is not realy doing any good.
i have said it once, frell i have said it time and again...
give up with the favour of the gods being tied to UW and Fissure
make the Favour be just that..The Gods reside on Your sides server alone and then only your side can get quests from them
reason? everyone can get thier damn armour, everyone can get into UW (provided they have assended) and so long as you pop from place to place, everyone can get the quests from the gods, then just do each one at a time and get the rewards the next time your side has the favour, all in one go!
hmph......and so far, i only like 1 peace of armour in the fancy 15k stuff, and that is the ranger galls bikini top
euro peeps would not need to be on usa servers then, other than cause they wanted to be with thier friends al the time and not to have to reset to international every time they came on...
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granted, theres a sorry lack of good BB here in euro, but its about the Quantity and Quality of the players.
Korea has State run and set up cyber cafes, for godess sakes. and the USA is full of kids in thier basements, or peeps in thier lofts/basemnt/appartment ect that can get reasonable conections and are into handing each-other thier assess in baskets for fun
the reason most people are swarming usa servers is cause they want to get to UW for thier PvE armour.
this World at War (waw or better War of Worlds) is not realy doing any good.
i have said it once, frell i have said it time and again...
give up with the favour of the gods being tied to UW and Fissure
make the Favour be just that..The Gods reside on Your sides server alone and then only your side can get quests from them
reason? everyone can get thier damn armour, everyone can get into UW (provided they have assended) and so long as you pop from place to place, everyone can get the quests from the gods, then just do each one at a time and get the rewards the next time your side has the favour, all in one go!
hmph......and so far, i only like 1 peace of armour in the fancy 15k stuff, and that is the ranger galls bikini top
euro peeps would not need to be on usa servers then, other than cause they wanted to be with thier friends al the time and not to have to reset to international every time they came on...
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