MiteeThoR's Ultimate UW Solo - getting things as efficient as possible...

Sinterklaas

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

KoB

Mo/W

i see an energy prob there...i think it's time for 2 man runs....good aswell...

The Fenixxor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Energy problem? your gaining +2 every time your getting hit and +5 with bonettis, unless ur game is bugged and ur breeze costs 30 energy to cost, and even then, i think your mistaken.

Ara Dax

Ara Dax

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

UK - IGN: Ara Dax

E/Me

I have trialed a build with grifs and trolls., you do not even need bonettis. I have ditched it and moved all my att points back from tactics to smiting.
My energy does not fall below about 15-20, even when spamming skills with zealots.
With the 3 running enchants, you still have 1 pip of energy, plus the energy gain from attacks, as Fenixxor has pointed out., Healing breeze and mending gives, wot, 12 hp regen (8+4).
I think it's easier without Pro Bond.

The Fenixxor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

I agree, the neccesity to recast protective spirit is more of an advantage that a hinderance due to zealots fire. bonetti's can probably easily be replaced by channeling (mesmer) and then maybe replace essence bond with divine boon... but tbh the build i mentioned works very well.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Bah ..didnt run lotsa tests..Bonnetti s still a good blocking skill.. i aint sure about removing it

Ara Dax

Ara Dax

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

UK - IGN: Ara Dax

E/Me

I am currently running with RoF instead of Bonettis, every hit gives X amount of health back to you, with a 3/4 casting time and 2 Sec recharge. Happy days.
Making it another spam skill with P/Spirit and H/Breeze.

Seems to work for me.

The Fenixxor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Devine boon is probably a better option as it will increase the HP you receive when u cast spells aswell, plus it has a lower CD.

Ara Dax

Ara Dax

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

UK - IGN: Ara Dax

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fenixxor
Devine boon is probably a better option as it will increase the HP you receive when u cast spells aswell, plus it has a lower CD. That is true, but with a 9 in divine aura, you get +29 hp for each skill you cast anyway. And with D/Boons -1 Regen, I decided not to use it.

And on a 55HP build, 29 is quite a lot.

The Fenixxor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ara Dax
That is true, but with a 9 in divine aura, you get +29 hp for each skill you cast anyway. And with D/Boons -1 Regen, I decided not to use it.

And on a 55HP build, 29 is quite a lot. Yea, well its an option its up to people what they wanna use, i find i kill them fast enough with my build and i like to keep bonetti's incase i get silenced + its useful to stop the aataxe interrupt.

Ara Dax

Ara Dax

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

UK - IGN: Ara Dax

E/Me

yeah, i suppose there will be different variations. Swings and roundabouts.

Kaldor Meshekal

Kaldor Meshekal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

England

Rt/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fenixxor
lol, unfortunatly for anet they seem to be useless at screwing builds... they actually get paid for this? Well, they did quite effectively screw over the spirit spam build (thank god for that)

The Fenixxor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaldor Meshekal
Well, they did quite effectively screw over the spirit spam build (thank god for that) Yea they get it right sometimes but cmon, it was obvious people would use prot spirit instead.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

what do u think..it may sound weird..

Droknar Collector wand 20%smite reload replaced with a +20% ench weapon

The Fenixxor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchblade
what do u think..it may sound weird..

Droknar Collector wand 20%smite reload replaced with a +20% ench weapon Use the +5 energy sword from maguuma stad and put a +20% enchant upgrade on it.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

that was the idea

miteethor

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

I can confirm that Protective Spirit is quite an effective replacement. It's not nearly as safe as the Prot bon build and your bars move around quite a bit but you can take pretty large mobs with a degree of safety. I just tested and could do 7 darkness at once and 5 ataxes at once and a mixed ataxe/darkness group.

It's also nice you can get a lot more energy because you don't have to pay the bond costs for each hit. But you are very busy casting now. Pretty much just cast as soon as anything is available so you don't let anything run out, because losing your spirit is fatal.

Bloodyblackthorn

Bloodyblackthorn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Symphony of Darkness [SoD]

W/Mo

Yes, but wouldnt a Mo/N version of this work?? Blood Ritual could give back the lost energy of prot bond.......

Therm

Therm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Fenixxor where exactly is that +5 en sword? Cant find it neither inside nor outside of maguma.

The Fenixxor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Anyone tried Mo/N build with aura of the lich?

miteethor

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

I've been toying with the idea. The only thing that bothers me is that I can't use AotL and Spiteful Spirit at the same time, and I would want them both to be a good necro. Also Bonettis does wonders for dodging interrupts and it's hard to give it up especialy for a bunch of 2-second cast time spells that will most likely never get cast because of interrupts.

Bloodyblackthorn

Bloodyblackthorn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Symphony of Darkness [SoD]

W/Mo

Use protective spirit??

Blight And Ruin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Never guilded ;-)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Therm
Fenixxor where exactly is that +5 en sword? Cant find it neither inside nor outside of maguma. It may also be from a collector at Maguuma but you can get one in Henge of Denravi for 2k plus 4 Steel and 20 Iron.

The Fenixxor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Oh sorry i didnt notice your post, its on the weaponsmith in maguuma.

Edit: Omg whats my advice doing today its on the weaponsmith in Henge of Denravi

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodyblackthorn
Use protective spirit??
Shhhhhhh... Before MOD come in a closed the thread

The Fenixxor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by funbun
Shhhhhhh... Before MOD come in a closed the thread Confused

DarthKhabal

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Lightning Strikes

Mo/W

Just a wild thought.... has anyone tryed Mark of Protection along with Protective Spirit?

I know its an elite, but SoJ could be changed by something else....

The Fenixxor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthKhabal
Just a wild thought.... has anyone tryed Mark of Protection along with Protective Spirit?

I know its an elite, but SoJ could be changed by something else....
Its pointless using a healing spell that has a duration significantly shorter than its cooldown, your gunna end up diying before you can recast.
If by some miracle u can survive the gap without diying its likely you dont need it.

Nawn Centz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Tombs of Primeval Kings.

W/

Too bad prot bond can't get to 1 energy anymore. gg.

yearninglemon

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

London

Sweet Revenge

E/Mo

I spent allot of money on this build, and they nerfed it 2 days after got 2 ectos ..... But now p-bond is at 3 ... But still figured out a way to solo it

DarthKhabal

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Lightning Strikes

Mo/W

Sorry Fennixor i didn't make myself clear... you use mending at +4 and watchful spirit. Then prot spirit...and mark of prot when the going gets tough. You can be right,of course but can't it work?

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodyblackthorn
Yes, but wouldnt a Mo/N version of this work?? Blood Ritual could give back the lost energy of prot bond....... Silly, neither BR nor BiP can be self-cast. They are both Target Other Ally

The Fenixxor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthKhabal
Sorry Fennixor i didn't make myself clear... you use mending at +4 and watchful spirit. Then prot spirit...and mark of prot when the going gets tough. You can be right,of course but can't it work? Mending +4 and watchful spirit (+2) is only going to give you +3 regen (due to bleed), thats not enough (when your taking 5 damage per hit) to keep yourself alive. You would end up using mark of protection right at the start and then ur a bit buggered later on. the key to the build is healing breeze, mending +4 and breeze should be enough to keep yourself alive, if you find yourself steadily losing life you may want to put a few skill points in devine favour so that when you cast protective spirit (which has a low cooldown) your healing yourself fully. Again i say a spell like mark of protect has a cooldown that is too high and therefore wont work effectively, your better off using something else.

cat1982

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Order of the Skull

just dropped two skills from my Mo/W 55hp build and replaced them, hint is....two friendly spirits :P Works perfectly, cant take on giant mobs like i used to, but its like being back with the original 105 build, have to take things a little slowly and only take 3-4 aataxes at a time

good to see its not been completely nerfed, already gotten 2 ectos on this run

C
Xxx

The Fenixxor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

I'd be interested to see if a elementalist monk can solo UW. Prot spirit, mending essence and balth spirit wud be a good place to start, then with something like firestorm or meteor shower... anyway i dont have an elementalist so if anyone's tried it i'd like to hear about it.

Therm

Therm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

It wont work becouse of huuge racharde time of meteor shower and a fire storm is very similar to balths aura but the aura got shorter recharge time i think

The Fenixxor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Ah well nevermind then.

Therm

Therm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

But im wondering if not trying to use this +3 prot bond... Essence bond gives me +1 each time im taking dmg and the balthazars spirit gives me some enegy too but i dunno the amount of it. So i only have to find another energy regen spell to become invinci again... Anyone know how much energy flows from balths spirit?

SwitcH

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Texas

Headless Horsemen

N/Me

Ok...Getting to Mineral Springs will be a problem for me unless some1 will run me for free

The Fenixxor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Therm
But im wondering if not trying to use this +3 prot bond... Essence bond gives me +1 each time im taking dmg and the balthazars spirit gives me some enegy too but i dunno the amount of it. So i only have to find another energy regen spell to become invinci again... Anyone know how much energy flows from balths spirit?
Balth spirit gives +1 energy every time your hit, its only the amount of adrenaline that changes according to your smiting level. There are no other skills that give you energy when your hit... thats why prot bond is so useless now

Quote:
Originally Posted by SwitcH
Ok...Getting to Mineral Springs will be a problem for me unless some1 will run me for free Why do you need to goto mineral springs? If its for SOJ (shield of judgement) i find SOJ a bit useless tbh, balth aura is much more useful

Tal Lightbringer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

[Boo] Monsters Inc.

Rt/Mo

Fenixxor: I'm just curious what you are using for damage skills. Or only B.Aura. Thanks.