These new players nowadays don't appreciate how good they've got it. Some of us geezers were here from the start. It was much tougher back in our day, yesiree. Much more like the wild west. Gather 'round you newbies and let me tell you about the good ol days:
-There were no rune traders. Yep. It's true. All your runes had to be gotten from drops - and back then, sonny, they dropped about as often as they do now. When the last time you ever IDed a Superior Rune of any kind for your primary profession? Never? Well, that was about your chance of ever seeing one, back then.
-Also, expert salvaging runes didn't always work. You could ID a superior vigor and then get 10 pieces of cloth if you expert salvaged it. I lost 2 Superior Vigors that way.
-Once upon a time, you had to infuse each piece of armor for the full benefit of infusion - which meant doing the Iron Mines mission 5 times in a row (yeah - I read that other thread - that's what inspired this one).
-There were no Rare Material traders, either. Seems like only yesterday when everyone was desperate to find out where you can get one fur square, sheet of parchment or a single chunk of charcoal.
-When you got to change your secondary profession - you had NO starter skill set. You had zero skills from your new profession!
Yep, these young players nowadays got it good - not like the old days when we had to actually work for every scrap.....
The Good Ol Days ...
Xue Yi Liang
Zeru
Actually 5-6 months ago it was easier to get stuff, not harder 
Yay for hill giants and no soc.
Yay for hill giants and no soc.
Sarrow
That when GW actually seemed like an MMORPG... now everything is high tech, fast, and up to date. damn you sonnies and your new way of technology and economy!
Xue Yi Liang
there was no map-zoning so we had to walk from Ascalon to Lion's Arch through the snow uphill both ways ...
(ok I made that one up)
Shhh .... this is geezer-talk - they're not supposed to know about the Sanctum Cay Hill Giants ....
(ok I made that one up)
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aB-
It was indeed much easier a while ago. Farming spots had not been nerfed yet, and spots like Riverside were nerfed much more abusively than now. Although I do agree that not getting a rune all the time out of armor was kind of a pain.
ExplosiveBadger
What are you talking about? Everything is overpriced now. Way back when seems much better.
WTS ECTOS 10K EA. WHISP. ME
WTS ECTOS 10K EA. WHISP. ME
Makkert
this is one big joke, for a game not even half a year old.
that said, you forgot:
- back then, you actuallly had to capture a skill when the boss was using it. if he didn't use it, you had no elite.
- back then, there were no scroll traders.
- back then, rangers were unwanted everywhere for groups
- back then, there were no priests of balthasar
that said, you forgot:
- back then, you actuallly had to capture a skill when the boss was using it. if he didn't use it, you had no elite.
- back then, there were no scroll traders.
- back then, rangers were unwanted everywhere for groups
- back then, there were no priests of balthasar
Mystical
Back in the day when you had to catch the boss using the elite skill to capture it. Ok, so it wasn't THAT long ago. 
EDIT: Too late
EDIT: Too late
Xue Yi Liang
Oh, fiddlesticks!
Ok - I admit it! All things considered, pre-nerf GW was shooting fish in a barrel. Snake Dance had no Arcanists - it was all Blessed Griffins that could be farmed for ages.
Sanctum Cay had a goldmine of defenseless Hill Giants that got you 1-2 gold drops on average per run.
Shall I continue?....
Ok - I admit it! All things considered, pre-nerf GW was shooting fish in a barrel. Snake Dance had no Arcanists - it was all Blessed Griffins that could be farmed for ages.
Sanctum Cay had a goldmine of defenseless Hill Giants that got you 1-2 gold drops on average per run.
Shall I continue?....
Makkert
yes, continu!
lol.
back then, you could get hundred blades somewhere around Ascalon. or so i heard...
lol.
back then, you could get hundred blades somewhere around Ascalon. or so i heard...
Helios
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yes, continu!
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Interregnum
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Yup, it was a boss in the breach by piken square. I was going to cap it, then I found out they took it out of there the day before
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EXACTLY the day after they took it out, I went to try and capture it.
And oh the skill capping was so much worse back then. I spent 3 hours trying to get the stupid hydra in perdition to use echo and not interrupt me when I was using signet...
Escape was pretty hard to goad the boss into using also... Normally for those non-attack elites (like charge!), you could just walk up and cap it before they do anything. But escape was from a ranger boss so he had been dropping spirits in the meanwhile. So annoying. -.-
spiritofcat
Expert salvage still doesn't always work, it's just a lot better now than it was.
Kakumei
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it can fail when trying to pull out something you put in yourself
anti_z3r0
I remember wayyyyy back in the day during the start of the betas....
There were no res shrines. If you died in an EA, you had to return to the outpost.
Imagine how tough it would be to run to droknars? o_O
It was cool though. Everything seemed much more rare and difficult to get to. Instead of crossing the shiverpeaks via the two missions (Borlis Pass and The Frost Gate) my friends and I crossed through the Northern route. It was a chain of 5 EAs, with that insane cave at the end. It took about 2 hours to go through, and I remember at least 4 times in a row where we had our last person die at that cave and we had to restart all the way back from yak's bend. It was so exhilerating though when you finally made it to Lion's Arch!
There were no res shrines. If you died in an EA, you had to return to the outpost.
Imagine how tough it would be to run to droknars? o_O
It was cool though. Everything seemed much more rare and difficult to get to. Instead of crossing the shiverpeaks via the two missions (Borlis Pass and The Frost Gate) my friends and I crossed through the Northern route. It was a chain of 5 EAs, with that insane cave at the end. It took about 2 hours to go through, and I remember at least 4 times in a row where we had our last person die at that cave and we had to restart all the way back from yak's bend. It was so exhilerating though when you finally made it to Lion's Arch!
Ultimate_Gaara
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These new players nowadays don't appreciate how good they've got it. Some of us geezers were here from the start. It was much tougher back in our day, yesiree. Much more like the wild west. Gather 'round you newbies and let me tell you about the good ol days:
-There were no rune traders. Yep. It's true. All your runes had to be gotten from drops - and back then, sonny, they dropped about as often as they do now. When the last time you ever IDed a Superior Rune of any kind for your primary profession? Never? Well, that was about your chance of ever seeing one, back then. -Also, expert salvaging runes didn't always work. You could ID a superior vigor and then get 10 pieces of cloth if you expert salvaged it. I lost 2 Superior Vigors that way. -Once upon a time, you had to infuse each piece of armor for the full benefit of infusion - which meant doing the Iron Mines mission 5 times in a row (yeah - I read that other thread - that's what inspired this one). -There were no Rare Material traders, either. Seems like only yesterday when everyone was desperate to find out where you can get one fur square, sheet of parchment or a single chunk of charcoal. -When you got to change your secondary profession - you had NO starter skill set. You had zero skills from your new profession! Yep, these young players nowadays got it good - not like the old days when we had to actually work for every scrap..... |
StarGatherer
Back in the day...Peeps had fun doing stupid shit....and they laughed when they died.......and they talked to each other..........hmmm now im hungry, I'll Jaunt over to the McRune for a Vigor combo
Antonio Cappello
Well said Xue, as a Guild Wars "geezer", I must say that your post made me laugh. It made me very angry when they updated the infusion, because I had just completely infused my second set of armour .
Threads like this make up for all the other crap we get on these forums.
.Threads like this make up for all the other crap we get on these forums.
Artemis Bladewing
In the good old days I remember first day I walk in and this guy yells:
"WTS Black dye very rare 1k" and the other screaming WTS rare black dye 900g each", look at what dye costs now...
Or ppl shouting: "where are the bonus areas, what can u get there?"
Or ppl coming back into beacons pearch yelling " Holy shit how can my lvl 13 warrior beat all those lvl 24 monsters"
Or ppl saying " Anybody want to help a lvl 13 ranger lvl outside of ascalon" ( yup ppl thought u actully had to lvl and u had to have lvl 20 in the desert)
Good old days ppl entered a pvp arena, see koreans and the next thing you say was all americans and europeans dead on the ground. No shit buildds like ranger build, smite build and spike build.
And the best THE GOOD OLD DAYS where you begged for a necro in the Thirsty River mission, that was so awesome ppl begging necros to join just to use the glitch.
I miss the first week of GW so badly.
"WTS Black dye very rare 1k" and the other screaming WTS rare black dye 900g each", look at what dye costs now...
Or ppl shouting: "where are the bonus areas, what can u get there?"
Or ppl coming back into beacons pearch yelling " Holy shit how can my lvl 13 warrior beat all those lvl 24 monsters"
Or ppl saying " Anybody want to help a lvl 13 ranger lvl outside of ascalon" ( yup ppl thought u actully had to lvl and u had to have lvl 20 in the desert)
Good old days ppl entered a pvp arena, see koreans and the next thing you say was all americans and europeans dead on the ground. No shit buildds like ranger build, smite build and spike build.
And the best THE GOOD OLD DAYS where you begged for a necro in the Thirsty River mission, that was so awesome ppl begging necros to join just to use the glitch.
I miss the first week of GW so badly.
Hiawatha
Back in the good ol' days, money could get you skills, runes and chicks 
KamikazeChicken
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Sarus
Back in the good old days the game was actually fun.
Leriel Frostbringer
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Anyway, you could fight and even heal area boss for ages. If you didnt think how to make him use elite, no cap for you.
By the way, was it possible to capture that elite animal attack back then? Never seen any boss with pet
And dont even remind me of golden giants in sanctum cay ;(
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Diomedes
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I actually really enjoyed that challenge. Ah well...
-Diomedes
Supervixen
Back in the day skill trainers sold elites and people said 'Congrats' when someone leveled up in town...
LoneDust
before the very first patch after game release, there were these 4-5 wreckages that drops 2 to 4 high level gold items per wreckage in acrid sea. I was regular salvaging gold items like they were dirt... got a lot of my weapon upgrades unlocked that way though.
Ominous
Yeah I miss the beta days. I remember back in Jan and Feb when I started the game was much harder and Ascalon changed every 4 weeks. I do miss that no res shrines and you had to start again from outpost. The game almost seems cheap now. Like having a game shark on your computer
Tactical-Dillusions
Yes, the good times, like nobody using winter in hells precipice
Skill unlocked...what's that mean?
Minor runes were actually worth selling and people would buy them.
Your thought your first gold drop was amazing and even though it wasn't max damage, you still kept it all the way through the game.
Skill capping was a fun challenge.
Runners didn't exist.
Well, at least mr frog tells us we have something fun coming up
Skill unlocked...what's that mean?
Minor runes were actually worth selling and people would buy them.
Your thought your first gold drop was amazing and even though it wasn't max damage, you still kept it all the way through the game.
Skill capping was a fun challenge.
Runners didn't exist.
Well, at least mr frog tells us we have something fun coming up
salja Wachi
hey and do not forget that back in the day you could chat on the local channel without having to listen to the "trade" channel at the same time. ie in other words PEOPLE USED THE CHANNELS FOR THEIR INTENDED PURPOSE.
not to mention the fact that in order to capture a stance you had to keep spamming your cap sig or you would never get it.
yup kids nowadays have no idea how easy they have it
not to mention the fact that in order to capture a stance you had to keep spamming your cap sig or you would never get it.
yup kids nowadays have no idea how easy they have it
salja Wachi
oh yea and one more thing after they nerfed the runes you had to unlock all the ones you alraedy ahd again. so those of us that played 500 hours or so before that update and found a whole bunch of runes ahd to start from scratch if we wanted to use them on a Pvp TOON.
Xue Yi Liang
I gotta admit, I do miss those Sanctum Cay Hill Giants, though. - I made my first 200k that way. I could run the mission in about 9 minutes, and each run would usually yield one gold and a purple - my best run was 3 rares and a purple rune. Then you could either ID them or sell the rares un-IDed for 15k-20k each.
IDed Sup Runes of any kind fetched from 20k-150k each. Since there were no rune traders there was no price standard - you could ask almost any price you wanted. A single Sup rune was a treasure all by itself.
And at 9 minutes per run it was the fastest buck you could make.
I confess I do miss that part....
IDed Sup Runes of any kind fetched from 20k-150k each. Since there were no rune traders there was no price standard - you could ask almost any price you wanted. A single Sup rune was a treasure all by itself.
And at 9 minutes per run it was the fastest buck you could make.
I confess I do miss that part....
SlY_DeMoN
Oh you mean the good ol days when admins left their nerf guns at home...
Geee I don't.
Geee I don't.
TheGreatBoo
I remember near the end of either a wpe or beta, when bloodstone fen was bugged and I couldn't pass. So I picked up my gear and traveled back to ascalon. In the last 2 days I explored all of ascalon, the northern shiverpeaks, and all of kryta. I almost got from one edge of the world to the other.
SOT
I recall when I installed the game and entered the world for the first time. It was day #2 after the game was officially released.
First person I spoke with helped me out on like 7 quests, and told me about this site
Nowadays, I split time between building my other characters, and standing in ascalon/yaks etc on my 20 ascended offering aid, and when I offer it, hearing things like "you f-ing noob! 15k armor is the suxorsssszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*hackcoughwheezemeaningle ss*"
I miss day one.
First person I spoke with helped me out on like 7 quests, and told me about this site
Nowadays, I split time between building my other characters, and standing in ascalon/yaks etc on my 20 ascended offering aid, and when I offer it, hearing things like "you f-ing noob! 15k armor is the suxorsssszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*hackcoughwheezemeaningle ss*"
I miss day one.
Mavrik
I wasn't here at the very beginning but when I look back on my first day back in May with this game, to how it is now. It is SO different... less friendly almost... I remember when someone leveled, everyone said "Congrats" and how help was more appreciated and no one (that I came across) was begging for money and then told to go farm it. There was no rune traders, no rare material traders. I even miss those *gasp* days of gwen dancing around while I fought for my very life against Skales. Ah well... Now I just worry about me, leveling my characters, increasing my personal wealth...
TheGreatBoo
It's no dispute that the community during betas and world preview was much more friendlier. I never saw a griefer or noob back then. Everyone was a new excited player with a love for the game. I do try to do my part in making the community less hostile as well. Hopefully theres a turnaround in the near future and the community improves.
Xue Yi Liang
It certainly was more friendly back then - wow. Blatantly obscene people were such a rarity back then. People were actually helpful, because we were all trying to figure out this thing together.
But now we have many people who just want someone to tell them all the shortcuts so they can power-level with their guildies. In the process they skip the story and most of the quests just to get that lvl 20 W/Mo in Droknar Armor with a copy-cat build. Reflects a much different attitude - since these people are the ones belittling the honest newbs who actually want to play the game as an experience.
Yeah, people were much nicer back then.
But now we have many people who just want someone to tell them all the shortcuts so they can power-level with their guildies. In the process they skip the story and most of the quests just to get that lvl 20 W/Mo in Droknar Armor with a copy-cat build. Reflects a much different attitude - since these people are the ones belittling the honest newbs who actually want to play the game as an experience.
Yeah, people were much nicer back then.
Ashika
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I miss being a complete newbie thinking that Fires in the North quest was ridiculously long and that Ascalon was a huge area...miss not knowing exactly what runes were for and the excitement over obtaining my first rune.
Most of all, I miss pre-sear. Fortunately I can delete and re-create a toon and go back
Chev of Hardass
Remember suicide missions to bosses to get skills. I got life transfer that way.
Ahh yes, while my group finished the Infusion run (for my third peice of armor or something) I found Whatever the Baneful and capped that skills, just before I was degen-ed to death.
Drops used to be good too. I gave away a max damage, low requirement +15% over 50% health axe to a guild mate, that I had found in the desert (not gold). I thought to myself, man weapons really don't matter much in this game. They just keep dropping. Now to get a weapon of that caliber, I need to farm for hours, and hours, and hours, and hours, and hours, and hours. I got 7 skill points yesterday farming. I found a hammer that I intend to use just be cause it looks cool.
But, all said and done, I went looking through my screenshots yesterday, and wow! was the UI rough back in Beta. I didn't notice that then, but I sure do notice it when I have to farm for hours to get skill points now.
Ahh yes, while my group finished the Infusion run (for my third peice of armor or something) I found Whatever the Baneful and capped that skills, just before I was degen-ed to death.
Drops used to be good too. I gave away a max damage, low requirement +15% over 50% health axe to a guild mate, that I had found in the desert (not gold). I thought to myself, man weapons really don't matter much in this game. They just keep dropping. Now to get a weapon of that caliber, I need to farm for hours, and hours, and hours, and hours, and hours, and hours. I got 7 skill points yesterday farming. I found a hammer that I intend to use just be cause it looks cool.
But, all said and done, I went looking through my screenshots yesterday, and wow! was the UI rough back in Beta. I didn't notice that then, but I sure do notice it when I have to farm for hours to get skill points now.
Perishiko ReLLiK
How about those good ole beta days where there werent quite as many elites? There were so many elite combos... haha, quite unfair, but then again... pretty hillarious. Hundred blades + illusionary weaponry anyone?
Anybody else remember the good ole pvp map where one team had to storm the fort? (No one seems to remember this fun ass map!!)
I love the old days. Not to mention, the old community... it went incredibly down hill after release, kind of funny... Maybe i'm the only one who feels this way, but meh.
What about thoese days when you didnt have to check that local chat off in towns? -- No recruitment, no runners, no trading outside the trade channel --
Guys, anyone remember getting to ring of fire by yourself and finding out that the henchmen arent infused?!
How about the good ole halls of hero's... where there werent near as many "elite" builds being discovered... Anybody remember the beta gvg? That was a laughing stock...
Anybody else love the difficulty that some of those ascention quests were without being able to form a full team, and without all those nerfs making it easier...?
Andbody else remember their first time into the underworld...? (That's right, before you knew what it was, no lieing now... it tore your ass limb from limb)\
Did anybody else like the casinos? (Wow, i loved wasting/gaining money inbetween trading -- gave me something to do... now i dont trade at all...)
There are an incredible amount of things that i loved more about the old days...
Anybody else remember the good ole pvp map where one team had to storm the fort? (No one seems to remember this fun ass map!!)
I love the old days. Not to mention, the old community... it went incredibly down hill after release, kind of funny... Maybe i'm the only one who feels this way, but meh.
What about thoese days when you didnt have to check that local chat off in towns? -- No recruitment, no runners, no trading outside the trade channel --
Guys, anyone remember getting to ring of fire by yourself and finding out that the henchmen arent infused?!
How about the good ole halls of hero's... where there werent near as many "elite" builds being discovered... Anybody remember the beta gvg? That was a laughing stock...
Anybody else love the difficulty that some of those ascention quests were without being able to form a full team, and without all those nerfs making it easier...?
Andbody else remember their first time into the underworld...? (That's right, before you knew what it was, no lieing now... it tore your ass limb from limb)\
Did anybody else like the casinos? (Wow, i loved wasting/gaining money inbetween trading -- gave me something to do... now i dont trade at all...)
There are an incredible amount of things that i loved more about the old days...