Does anyone know how to make WHITE dye?
navymrgoodbar
If so, plz do tell.
gwnewbie
Theoratically if white dye could be applied to a chaos axe it would turn black. So far (I and many others have tried and failed) to make white dye. I have experimented several times in an attempt at making white dye, I don't believe it is possible. Silver is the closest in the game at the moment.
dargon
Well, in the real world, white dye is impossible to make. There is however bleach 
. The dye remover isn't bleach however.
. The dye remover isn't bleach however.
navymrgoodbar
Then how is white paint made? 
Jhyphi
Mix the primary colors together.
Ever had one of those wheels where you spun it fast and it turned white?
Don't think it works in GW though.
Ever had one of those wheels where you spun it fast and it turned white?
Don't think it works in GW though.
Aria
There is no white dye. The closest you will come to having white dye in Guild Wars is by holding a vial of silver dye. Some people have speculated that due to the Guild Wars engine and to the glow effect, pure white would be a rather garish smear of blinding, rather painful.. well.. white.
coolsti
If you do a search on this forum for "white dye" you may find a thread which has a screenshot with a female Mesmer wearing a completely white enchanters dress. The poster did not know how the dress was dyed, but it is very very white! So it must be possible.
I tried to do that for my Mesmer (female, with a 15K enchanters dress) by pre-mixing one yellow dye and 2 dye-removers. In the bottle, the color was orange-ish. But after applying it to the dress, I got a really great mint green that I am extremely happy with. I did this to the rest of her outfit and it looks great.
What I think happens is this: dye remover might either remove or partially remove a component of the dye that it is applied to (here I mean applying dye remover to a bottle of dye, not to an item). Or the dye remover is making the original dye partially transparent, allowing the background color of the original item to come through. In my case, the Mesmer dress was green, and so maybe I got this neat mint green due to the green showing through the transparent yellow. I noticed that I got a different effect when applying two bottles of dye remover to one yellow dye than when using only one dye remover (the effect becomes greater, I get more of a greenish result).
If you got the money, try playing around with dye remover + silver. Maybe more than one dye remover, maybe more than one silver. But the result may then depend on what the color is of the thing you are applying it to.
I tried to do that for my Mesmer (female, with a 15K enchanters dress) by pre-mixing one yellow dye and 2 dye-removers. In the bottle, the color was orange-ish. But after applying it to the dress, I got a really great mint green that I am extremely happy with. I did this to the rest of her outfit and it looks great.
What I think happens is this: dye remover might either remove or partially remove a component of the dye that it is applied to (here I mean applying dye remover to a bottle of dye, not to an item). Or the dye remover is making the original dye partially transparent, allowing the background color of the original item to come through. In my case, the Mesmer dress was green, and so maybe I got this neat mint green due to the green showing through the transparent yellow. I noticed that I got a different effect when applying two bottles of dye remover to one yellow dye than when using only one dye remover (the effect becomes greater, I get more of a greenish result).
If you got the money, try playing around with dye remover + silver. Maybe more than one dye remover, maybe more than one silver. But the result may then depend on what the color is of the thing you are applying it to.
ayb
cheaper way to experiment with dye mixing (if you have the character slot) make a pvp-only character.
Mighty T
i attempted to mix dark blue at the other day, thought the blue + black will work. However, it became very bright, lighter blue instead.. I wonder if i apply black to a silver dye, will it be brighter too?
Xue Yi Liang
Crank up the Brightness and Contrast settings on your monitor - eventually you'll get white.
berko
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i attempted to mix dark blue at the other day, thought the blue + black will work. However, it became very bright, lighter blue instead.. I wonder if i apply black to a silver dye, will it be brighter too?
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no, you will get a slightly darker shade of Silver.
navymrgoodbar
Has anyone tried dye remover w/ black dye? I don't want to risk wasting money. 
tastes noobalicious
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Crank up the Brightness and Contrast settings on your monitor - eventually you'll get white.
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As for my personal experience with white die...well one time in lions arch someone was trying to sell it, but when i asked to see it he ran away. And dont the three primary colors make black? im not sure
navymrgoodbar
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And dont the three primary colors make black? im not sure
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Kobun King
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Mix the primary colors together.
Ever had one of those wheels where you spun it fast and it turned white? Don't think it works in GW though. |
One and Two
ill give you guys the secret formula for white...since its so hard to sell at 5k (for profit)
black+silver+silver+green
black+silver+silver+green
Numa Pompilius
This should be obvious but... the GW engine can handle white. We know this, because you can have white on your capes.
Why there isn't a white dye, I do not know. Might be something with the process of mixing various dyes which causes problems.
Why there isn't a white dye, I do not know. Might be something with the process of mixing various dyes which causes problems.
coolsti
As I mentioned above in this thread, there was another thread which shows a female Mesmer wearing what really appears to be white clothes. So there has to be a white or white-appearing dye combination. Maybe a very very light silver?
Here is the screen dump from that thread that I am referring to. Do a "search this forum" for the topic "white dye" to find the original.
Here is the screen dump from that thread that I am referring to. Do a "search this forum" for the topic "white dye" to find the original.
Esprit
The mesmer dyed, looks more like a silver and light purple, like they took a bunch of silvers and through it into one purple until you got that screenshot.
navymrgoodbar
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ill give you guys the secret formula for white...since its so hard to sell at 5k (for profit)
black+silver+silver+green |
trpelite
I have been searching the forum on the content of white dye, but I haven't found anything yet so I thought I would bring it up.
I hear it has to do a combination of dyes with dye remover, has anyone figured this out? I know it's possible because a few nights ago I saw a monk in all white armor.
Any information appreciated
I hear it has to do a combination of dyes with dye remover, has anyone figured this out? I know it's possible because a few nights ago I saw a monk in all white armor.
Any information appreciated
Shifty Geezer
White 'Paint' tends to use pigments like Titanium Dioxide which are white in colour. White dyes aren't used on fabrics - rather any colours are bleached out to leave the natural whiteness of the material.
I *think* dye remover works as a transparent component. From what I've read and seen, using dye remover has different results depending on the underlying colour. I think of it as clothes having a base colour layer and a dye layer on top of that. If the dye layer has a degree of transparency the underlying base layer shows through to that degree. eg. If the base colour is Red and you mix Yellow+Transparency (Dye remover), you get Orange. On that same armour three dye removers to one blue produces a 3:1 ratio of Red:Blue for a Crimson red. If this is so, Dye Remover can be used as a dye of the colour of your base armour.
I *think* dye remover works as a transparent component. From what I've read and seen, using dye remover has different results depending on the underlying colour. I think of it as clothes having a base colour layer and a dye layer on top of that. If the dye layer has a degree of transparency the underlying base layer shows through to that degree. eg. If the base colour is Red and you mix Yellow+Transparency (Dye remover), you get Orange. On that same armour three dye removers to one blue produces a 3:1 ratio of Red:Blue for a Crimson red. If this is so, Dye Remover can be used as a dye of the colour of your base armour.
Derjyn_Wyx
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The mesmer dyed, looks more like a silver and light purple, like they took a bunch of silvers and (threw) it into one purple until you got that screenshot.
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I *think* dye remover works as a transparent component. From what I've read and seen, using dye remover has different results depending on the underlying colour. I think of it as clothes having a base colour layer and a dye layer on top of that. If the dye layer has a degree of transparency the underlying base layer shows through to that degree. eg. If the base colour is Red and you mix Yellow+Transparency (Dye remover), you get Orange. On that same armour three dye removers to one blue produces a 3:1 ratio of Red:Blue for a Crimson red. If this is so, Dye Remover can be used as a dye of the colour of your base armour.
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Numa Pompilius
Derjyn: I've got tons of dyes, I can try as long as there isn't any black in the recipe. So, what should I mix?
Derjyn_Wyx
Well, to start, perhaps anything that hasn't already been confirmed. There's a dye chart somewhere here, I'll post a link when I find it. Also, maybe go beyond 4 dye mixes. First thing I'm going to try is 6 blues, 6 reds, etc, and see what happens. I'm still trying to think of a good item we can use for testing- any suggestions?
Derjyn_Wyx
Ok, I just used a dye remover on my holy staff. I then used orange->yellow->green->blue. This looks white also, but kinda light green at the same time. Someone want to try this on a different item, and see what they get?
Numa Pompilius
I did some experimenting, and Shifty Geezer is right about the effect of dye remover - it adds transparency.
I also verified that you can't mix more than three dye removers with a dye, the game simply doesn't allow it. Didn't try mixing more than four dyes.
EDIT: tried the orange+yellow+green+blue mix. On my monk, which I use because her skirt is a big canvas, the effect was a very slightly lighter greenish-brown than the default monk grayish-brown.
Holy staffs - aren't they white by default? Or is that smiting staffs?
I also verified that you can't mix more than three dye removers with a dye, the game simply doesn't allow it. Didn't try mixing more than four dyes.
EDIT: tried the orange+yellow+green+blue mix. On my monk, which I use because her skirt is a big canvas, the effect was a very slightly lighter greenish-brown than the default monk grayish-brown.
Holy staffs - aren't they white by default? Or is that smiting staffs?
Shadwu
Monks clothes are white, if char wont dye them, isnt it?
And http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=54216
And http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=54216
Volten
Silver give monk a white look on some armors
One and Two
which ones??
Xue Yi Liang
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ill give you guys the secret formula for white...since its so hard to sell at 5k (for profit)
black+silver+silver+green |
One and Two
oh shoot...i was joking...i hope you arent serious...
Xue Yi Liang
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oh shoot...i was joking...i hope you arent serious...
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That's ok - I still have 52 black dyes and lots of money. I was just curious. I'll try anything.
At least you didn't say black+black+black+black - I would have tried that, too.
Diestro
I haven't done much mixing, so no recipes from me. I do, however, have a set of pyromancer armor from droknars that I managed to make look white. The first time I dyed it, I just added silver, and that gave it a silvery and lightly purplish look (purple is the base color). Not happy with the look, I used dye remover, and noticed it seemed to remove that base color, at least partially. I used another silver on it, and it came out looking white. After that, I used dye remover on the rest of my armor before adding silver dye, and it too came out white looking, rather than silver. Chances are the color result is simply because of the type of armor it is.The boots and gloves have a slightly silvery look, but the jacket and leggings certainly look snowy white to me.
The main problem with getting any dye recipes is that all the different armors take the dye differently, and generally none of them coming out with the same color that's represented in the dye bottle icon.
Oh, and to add to what someone was saying about the difference in light colors and dye/paint colors; white light is made by combining all primary colors, there is no true black light. Black dye/paint is made by combining all primary colors, whereas white is actually the absence of any pigment. There actually is no "pure" white coloring substance, there's always minute traces of other colors, even if in such small quantities that they are unnoticeable to the human eye.
The main problem with getting any dye recipes is that all the different armors take the dye differently, and generally none of them coming out with the same color that's represented in the dye bottle icon.
Oh, and to add to what someone was saying about the difference in light colors and dye/paint colors; white light is made by combining all primary colors, there is no true black light. Black dye/paint is made by combining all primary colors, whereas white is actually the absence of any pigment. There actually is no "pure" white coloring substance, there's always minute traces of other colors, even if in such small quantities that they are unnoticeable to the human eye.
navymrgoodbar
Well, I still don't have enough money to tset it out.
Fourhundred Meters
ive heard (though never seen or tested) that 3 silvers and a dye remover will make white...
Numa Pompilius
Logically, and given the hefty assumption that the guildwars red, green and blue are primary, wouldn't a red, a green, and a blue dye make white or at least neutral gray?
Then the question is how to increase the brightness, of course. It seems brightness (and "metallic shinyness") is a function of the item being dyed rather than a feature of the dye.
EDIT: LOL! Well, so much for that theory. R+G+B on a yellow-base armor is a rather fetching ultramarine: http://mikes-machine.mine.nu/temp/screens/rgbmix.jpg
Nice color, IMO, but not exactly either white nor gray. Presumably because the mix is really 50% blue, 25% red & 25% green (as I mixed r+g first). I wonder if I'd have got the same color with a purple + blue?
Then the question is how to increase the brightness, of course. It seems brightness (and "metallic shinyness") is a function of the item being dyed rather than a feature of the dye.
EDIT: LOL! Well, so much for that theory. R+G+B on a yellow-base armor is a rather fetching ultramarine: http://mikes-machine.mine.nu/temp/screens/rgbmix.jpg
Nice color, IMO, but not exactly either white nor gray. Presumably because the mix is really 50% blue, 25% red & 25% green (as I mixed r+g first). I wonder if I'd have got the same color with a purple + blue?
RotteN
"primary" colors are red, yellow and blue, but to mix white you do not only need the primary colors, but the "colors of the rainbow", and yes, take that litterally :P but as you can only mix a max of 4 dyes, you'll never be able to mix all colors to get white ... once i get some money to play with (right now saving for fissure, need every penny :P) i might get into a mixing spree to get some nifty colors, might try to make white ...
HappySuicide
White is the absence of color...you cannot mix to get the absence of color, just like it would be impossible to take colors off of the color wheel besides to primary ones and mix until you get a primary color. I dont see why people cant just use silver dye for the substitute to white. And that picture that was shown with the "white" mesmer? First off the picture was insanely low quality, and second of all it would be very easy to make yourself silver and when you are in a certain light to make yourself look white then take a screen shot, google guild wars screenshots and see how many "white" characters you find, it is usually silver or someone modded the picture or someone isnt telling us something.
Rather than looking at a color wheel see if you can find a color scale, rare and sometimes confusing but if you find one that has been made correctly then you will notice white at the top as the absence of all color.
Rather than looking at a color wheel see if you can find a color scale, rare and sometimes confusing but if you find one that has been made correctly then you will notice white at the top as the absence of all color.
Numa Pompilius
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"primary" colors are red, yellow and blue, but to mix white you do not only need the primary colors, but the "colors of the rainbow"
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When it comes to the real world of _reflected_ light, there are no such things as primary colors, though, and what we'd percieve as purest white out in the sunshine really a faint blue (because our sun is yellow).