The Gold Supremacy!
Sir Skullcrasher
I give it a few minutes before a mod kill of this thread and start banning people 
salja Wachi
IN CASE ANYONE MISSED IT I WILL PUT THE ENTIRE QUTE HERE FOR YOU TO SEE.
"My first character w/c is an Elementalist, wielded a collectors item with +26Hp. But after playing hours after hours....going to LA to buy and sell...haggling with some people...ripping off the noobs....farming back then in riverside...I got rich!"
so now you are rich. you got rich how?
by ripping off newbies. you whould be proud of your self.
"My first character w/c is an Elementalist, wielded a collectors item with +26Hp. But after playing hours after hours....going to LA to buy and sell...haggling with some people...ripping off the noobs....farming back then in riverside...I got rich!"
so now you are rich. you got rich how?
by ripping off newbies. you whould be proud of your self.
Mumblyfish
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Originally Posted by Mariena Feladon
On-topic: Green items are perfect, but can't they also be upgraded with upgrade components?
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kawaii_bat
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Originally Posted by Storm_Chaser
dam. ur very right. thanks! its just that when that dude said that this game is not for me i lost it.
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''About Golds and greens.''
I know that some greens are actually unique items that have their own name and appearence.
People will want green more just for the fact that the *are* green. And greens are just rarer than gold. I could say that Purples are as good as gold. I could make the exact same gold weapon in purple or in white.
But it's what people *WANT* not need that makes green items worth much more.
I'm of the opinion that: You buy what you need, not necessarilly what you want. But if people want to spend their money on these green items. There's nothing you or I can do to stop them.
They all have something called: free will
Algren Cole
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Originally Posted by Mariena Feladon
Storm_Chaser: Please stop being a hypocrite.
On-topic: Green items are perfect, but can't they also be upgraded with upgrade components? It still wouldn't make them godly, but they'd be superior to the other items of the same type, if you'd ask me. Collector items ftw, though. |
unfortunately Green items can't be upgraded.
Sir Skullcrasher
I bet someone here can beat the OP in Guild Wars one on one
Mariena Feladon
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Originally Posted by Mumblyfish
Green items already come with both upgrade components, and said components can't be replaced.
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Storm_Chaser
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Originally Posted by salja Wachi
IN CASE ANYONE MISSED IT I WILL PUT THE ENTIRE QUTE HERE FOR YOU TO SEE.
"My first character w/c is an Elementalist, wielded a collectors item with +26Hp. But after playing hours after hours....going to LA to buy and sell...haggling with some people...ripping off the noobs....farming back then in riverside...I got rich!" so now you are rich. you got rich how? by ripping off newbies. you whould be proud of your self. |
Again I said that because it was MY exprience. I wasnt very happy of that myself and I WAS NOT BRAGGING! how hard is that to understand?? and for the record, i got rich mostly by farming!
Sir Skullcrasher
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Originally Posted by Algren Cole
unfortunately Green items can't be upgraded.
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Rancour
I prefere to use gold items simply because I know that it was hard to find. Getting a good gold item is cool because I know they're hard to come by. I like to hunt for my items. Having powerful items isn't interesting for me; having powerful items I spent time getting is interesting. I like to work for weeks and weeks trying to get the upgrades I want, the items I want and the damage I want because I'll feel so excited once I get it.
I don't like paying ridiculously high prices for anything and I won't ever rip of a newbie. I like to farm and defeat opponents in order to be rewarded with a new item.
And even once I got the powerful items I want I'll just try and get good-looking items that are equally powerful. To me looks mean the world in RPG games. No style, no role, no RPG.
I don't like paying ridiculously high prices for anything and I won't ever rip of a newbie. I like to farm and defeat opponents in order to be rewarded with a new item.
And even once I got the powerful items I want I'll just try and get good-looking items that are equally powerful. To me looks mean the world in RPG games. No style, no role, no RPG.
Teklord
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Originally Posted by Storm Chaser
... and for the record, i got rich mostly by farming!
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Storm_Chaser
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Originally Posted by sir skulkcrasher
Why is a-net limiting us from upgrading or customizing Green items?? Is it because the item is already consider "perfect" so that we do anything to change the mod (or remove it) from a Green Items?
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I think the reason why anet dont want us to take upgrades from a green item is because its easy to find in SF. well thats just my idea.
snapp
The exclamations.....my God the exclamations....
Storm_Chaser
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Originally Posted by Teklord
Oh how I could use that in another thread I'm participating in. As this is the root cause of those insane prices out there today.
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stumpy
i sell all my green crap for 5K ... save dragos sudnering bow, gravelheads vamp sword, malinon sheild, and the razor. Rest is 5K cause I can go buy a collectors item for 1-2K... and mod it to meet my needs. Green items are specific to the boss you pull it off of. Hope anet lets us do the same with our own weapons ... (although drawbacks could foresee ... 'WTS ... l337 lonsword of uber pwnage 100 ecto') oh dear ... hmmm .. maybe this one needs more thought.
Teklord
Make no mistake, that is not a flame or a start of one. I do not make it my business to get into flaming. The rest of that just goes to prove more as to how all this gold got into the game. Well that and botters of course.
kawaii_bat
The only reason someone has for even *telling* others they took advantage of newer players is because they are proud of having done it and want to share it with other people.
(That's what most people think when they see a post like that )
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We go to these forums to give our opinions...
...but I think that some people actually look for other disgraceful comments so they can have fun putting them down.
****PLEASE****
Stop insulting each other. This is supposed to be a discussion forum. Not a children's message board.
If you can't discuss about something seriously. Both positive or negative imput about the subject without beign insulting. Don't post at all!
Instead: Send a personal message to that person.
It sometimes bothers other people reading these posts, who then feel they have to comment on them.
(That's what most people think when they see a post like that )
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We go to these forums to give our opinions...
...but I think that some people actually look for other disgraceful comments so they can have fun putting them down.
****PLEASE****
Stop insulting each other. This is supposed to be a discussion forum. Not a children's message board.
If you can't discuss about something seriously. Both positive or negative imput about the subject without beign insulting. Don't post at all!
Instead: Send a personal message to that person.
It sometimes bothers other people reading these posts, who then feel they have to comment on them.
Storm_Chaser
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Originally Posted by kawaii_bat
The only reason someone has for even *telling* others they took advantage of newer players is because they are proud of having done it and want to share it with other people.
(That's what most people think when they see a post like that ) ------------------------------------------------------------------ We go to these forums to give our opinions... ...but I think that some people actually look for other disgraceful comments so they can have fun putting them down. ****PLEASE**** Stop insulting each other. This is supposed to be a discussion forum. Not a children's message board. If you can't discuss about something seriously. Both positive or negative imput about the subject without beign insulting. Don't post at all! Instead: Send a personal message to that person. It sometimes bothers other people reading these posts, who then feel they have to comment on them. |
SO TRUE!
Storm_Chaser
but eniweys, ok so far, here are some of the reasons why GOLD items shouldnt be as valuable anymore:
1. u can find a green items in SF or GF with the same stats--although u cant customize it and cannot take/add upgrades to/from it.
2. GREEN is whats in now.
can anyone add more to this?
1. u can find a green items in SF or GF with the same stats--although u cant customize it and cannot take/add upgrades to/from it.
2. GREEN is whats in now.
can anyone add more to this?
Algren Cole
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Originally Posted by Storm_Chaser
but eniweys, ok so far, here are some of the reasons why GOLD items shouldnt be as valuable anymore:
1. u can find a green items in SF or GF with the same stats--although u cant customize it and cannot take/add upgrades to/from it. 2. GREEN is whats in now. can anyone add more to this? |
I think your problem is that you believe gold items were appropriately priced before the GF & SF Update..they never should have been as valuable as they became in the first place.
Orvix Thang
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Originally Posted by Teklord
Tactical-Dillusions FTW.
It's all on the farmers / botters that have brought those insane levels of gold into the game that those items are supposedly 'worth' that much. |
Hey get a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing life for christs sake.
kawaii_bat
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Originally Posted by Storm_Chaser
but eniweys, ok so far, here are some of the reasons why GOLD items shouldnt be as valuable anymore:
1. u can find a green items in SF or GF with the same stats--although u cant customize it and cannot take/add upgrades to/from it. 2. GREEN is whats in now. can anyone add more to this? |
It' s green.
It's new
It's rarer than gold (more difficult to find)
And like all fads people just want it because other people have it.
It's really not that difficult to see. Apply human psyche to it and voila!
Answers your question?
Arturo02
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Originally Posted by Storm_Chaser
You say that Sundering and Fortitude are useless MODs?? Well I personally think that ur still a NOOB. In PVP or GVG Sundering is very important beacause of all the high armored warriors out there. It somehow, adds more damage to your attack because of the armor penetration. Theres more to be said but I feel that im just wasting my time on u.
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Oh shoot I forgot to mention I don't pvp in Ascalon so I doubt we will face each other.
Teklord
Orvix Thang. You obviously didn't see my reply to you in the other thread, else you would not have gone off like that I'd imagine. Chill. Doesn't change the fact that's where the gold has been coming from none-the-less.
Also, what is the deal with this "Red Engine Gored" thing? What are we, two year olds?
Edit: No one answer that... as we all know some do act that way.
*Disclaimer* That edit is not aimed at ANY one individual, do not make the mistake and assume it was a personal attack.
Also, what is the deal with this "Red Engine Gored" thing? What are we, two year olds?
Edit: No one answer that... as we all know some do act that way.
*Disclaimer* That edit is not aimed at ANY one individual, do not make the mistake and assume it was a personal attack.
Storm_Chaser
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Originally Posted by kawaii_bat
The *ONLY* reasons why green is worth more than gold is because:
It' s green. It's new It's rarer than gold (more difficult to find) And like all fads people just want it because other people have it. It's really not that difficult to see. Apply human psyche to it and voila! Answers your question? |
Algren Cole
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Originally Posted by Storm_Chaser
i get it!
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Standard rule of business: if the prices on expensive items are dropping drastically you always buy....chances are far more likely that the prices will rise again than they are to just continue dropping. Eventually gold weapons will be the top prize in PvE again...once everyone realizes that the green items are nothing special. But just like business, everything is a risk, if you're willing to spend all your money on gold items at low prices you could reap the benefits later....or you could be dead broke.
Storm_Chaser
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Originally Posted by Algren Cole
I think your problem is that you believe gold items were appropriately priced before the GF & SF Update..they never should have been as valuable as they became in the first place.
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and the peeps who found them first had the right to sell it for a lot of plat because it is a fact that it's still hard to find.
Amand
Strange things is,
I've never measured a players competency or quality by his weapons/items, never did I take a look on any PUG's weapons before joining them. To be proud of swinging a golden sword instead of a "lower" green or blue is the first sign of reality-loss. None of your weapons are an indication of your playing and cooperative qualities, no FOW armour will save you - though saving yourself now seems impossible considering how lowly your postings appear. Narcism at its best.
Wake up!
I've never measured a players competency or quality by his weapons/items, never did I take a look on any PUG's weapons before joining them. To be proud of swinging a golden sword instead of a "lower" green or blue is the first sign of reality-loss. None of your weapons are an indication of your playing and cooperative qualities, no FOW armour will save you - though saving yourself now seems impossible considering how lowly your postings appear. Narcism at its best.
Wake up!
Storm_Chaser
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Originally Posted by Amand
Strange things is,
I've never measured a players competency or quality by his weapons/items, never did I take a look on any PUG's weapons before joining them. To be proud of swinging a golden sword instead of a "lower" green or blue is the first sign of reality-loss. None of your weapons are an indication of your playing and cooperative qualities, no FOW armour will save you - though saving yourself now seems impossible considering how lowly your postings appear. Narcism at its best. Wake up! |
kawaii_bat
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Originally Posted by Storm_Chaser
why not? didnt a lot of people learned how to farm? didnt a lot of people got rich because of the re-starting of the price? It was expensive because it was, and still is, hard to find. as for my personal experience, after playing 400+ hrs of playing this game, i have never ever got a gold max damage Longsword,fellblade,crystalline and all that!
and the peeps who found them first had the right to sell it for a lot of plat because it is a fact that it's still hard to find. |
Basically the update just turned Guild wars into another Diablo.
THANK GUYS AT ARENA NET!
Mumblyfish
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Originally Posted by kawaii_bat
Basically the update just turned Guild wars into another Diablo.
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coleslawdressin
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Originally Posted by Storm_Chaser
why do u have to be such an ass dick sucker?
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I barely come around this place now because of asshats like this.
kawaii_bat
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Originally Posted by Amand
Strange things is,
I've never measured a players competency or quality by his weapons/items, never did I take a look on any PUG's weapons before joining them. To be proud of swinging a golden sword instead of a "lower" green or blue is the first sign of reality-loss. None of your weapons are an indication of your playing and cooperative qualities, no FOW armour will save you - though saving yourself now seems impossible considering how lowly your postings appear. Narcism at its best. Wake up! |
It's not so much reality-lost
I tended to think that my Gold
Hale holy staff of enchanting:
Fire 10-19 dmg req 6 divine favor)
Improves casting speed (cahnce 10%)
Health +22
enchantments last 20% longer
Sucked compared to the other similar versions. Just because it isn't max dmg.
But when I sat down and though about it. It's a monk weapon! They NEVER attack!
Why would I need it max dmg? So I kept it. IT'S AWESOME I raise the dead very quickly, my enchantments last crazy long with Blessed aura.
I'm a great monk with it!
When I asked around people told me that the weapon itself was crap but if I salvaged the enchantment upgrade would be worth 80-100k.
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Point of this story is:
People are in love with colors, big numbers and popularity.
NOT with Practicality and Availability.
If a Perfect collector's weapon was available, no one would want one (Other than us smart people who see the common sence in using a *good* item highly available to us) because everyone else has it.
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Storm_Chaser
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Originally Posted by coleslawdressin
wow ban please
I barely come around this place now because of asshats like this. |
dude, people have settled down here. dont start! if u dont have any ideas on the topic then dont post here nemore!!
Sir Skullcrasher
example.. i got a free white chao axes, i took some mod and put on it and now its a decent blue chao axes.. Do i need to spend 10k or more to get "Gold" axes.. no. i just need one with the right stats to help me!
Teufel Eldritch
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Originally Posted by Mumblyfish
I haven't been PM'd once. I'm beginning to wonder if I've lost my touch, or if I need to simply post more.
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Mods plz don't hit me with the bann stick. Im only messing around with Algern.
Storm_Chaser
Point of this story is:
People are in love with colors, big numbers and popularity.
NOT with Practicality and Availability.
If a Perfect collector's weapon was available, no one would want one (Other than us smart people who see the common sence in using a *good* item highly available to us) because everyone else has it.
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people! pls read this!!! because this is what im tryin to say!
ty for this!
People are in love with colors, big numbers and popularity.
NOT with Practicality and Availability.
If a Perfect collector's weapon was available, no one would want one (Other than us smart people who see the common sence in using a *good* item highly available to us) because everyone else has it.
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people! pls read this!!! because this is what im tryin to say!
ty for this!
Mumblyfish
Huge generalisation. I'm not in love with pretty colours, blinking lights and whatever's the "in" thing. I, and a lot of people, prefer maximum efficacy and cost effectiveness to the wallet-rapists you believe make the better player.
Lynnrose
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Originally Posted by Amand
Strange things is,
I've never measured a players competency or quality by his weapons/items, never did I take a look on any PUG's weapons before joining them. To be proud of swinging a golden sword instead of a "lower" green or blue is the first sign of reality-loss. None of your weapons are an indication of your playing and cooperative qualities, no FOW armour will save you - though saving yourself now seems impossible considering how lowly your postings appear. Narcism at its best. Wake up! |
EternalTempest
All I read when anet was trying to cut bots, etc. was the complaints when they started nerfing stuff. Now anet does the reverse and floods the market causing everything to go down and complaints again.
If golds are dropping in price it's due to lack of demand so to they have to be sold at lesser cost. I'm so glad anet is flooding the world with items to make everything cheaper. And the green are a status symbol. Just like Fow Armor.
Anet has changed the game so the people who are use to the old economy and high priced items are being forced to change the way they play and of course there not going to like it. I love the changes becuase I can get thing cheaper and do more skill capture, quests, and mess around with PvP.
If golds are dropping in price it's due to lack of demand so to they have to be sold at lesser cost. I'm so glad anet is flooding the world with items to make everything cheaper. And the green are a status symbol. Just like Fow Armor.
Anet has changed the game so the people who are use to the old economy and high priced items are being forced to change the way they play and of course there not going to like it. I love the changes becuase I can get thing cheaper and do more skill capture, quests, and mess around with PvP.