Unsportsmanlike conduct in Team Arena: Running Players

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MSecorsky
MSecorsky
Furnace Stoker
#21
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Originally Posted by Sanji
In what way? They're going to do it anyhow, but instead of wasting a team's time for 20 minutes to an hour or even more, they only have 10 minutes.
Exactly. If you make it easier to grief run a no decision, there are enough people out there (disappointing as that may be) that will start doing it, even though they may have not had the patience to last a hour.

Besides, the other night I was in a Team Arena match that lasted at least 15 minutes... excellent healing on both sides, excellent balance (that was an anomoly, other matches went much quicker)... it would have been a shame to have an excellent fight like that interrupted with a no winner just because.
Sanji
Sanji
Wilds Pathfinder
#22
I can see that, however 10 Minutes was just an arbitrary number. Still, in my opinion there ought to be something simple, yet functional to discourage these epic stalemates that keep popping up.
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Shinsei
Lion's Arch Merchant
#23
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MSecorsky
MSecorsky
Furnace Stoker
#24
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Originally Posted by Sanji
I can see that, however 10 Minutes was just an arbitrary number. Still, in my opinion there ought to be something simple, yet functional to discourage these epic stalemates that keep popping up.
How about long duration exhaustion on running specific skills? Either in the energy draining sense, or in increased cool down times every time you use them (with 'them' being all running skills exhaust all others as well as itself)?

Eventually, you'll be too pooped to run.
Sir Skullcrasher
Sir Skullcrasher
Furnace Stoker
#25
umm.. in PvP players have the right to used different tactics.
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Believe
Academy Page
#26
Well try dealing with an Ranger Trap group that just trap and run and run and then trap a few more. As of latly ive encountered these groups 6 diff times they dont fight they just run and one guyw ill set up a cripple and dust trap and they continue to run. I mean its teh most pointless thing ive ever seen there not getting but what 25 faction because the opposing team quites since we dont have time to sit there and run around.
Sanji
Sanji
Wilds Pathfinder
#27
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Originally Posted by MSecorsky
How about long duration exhaustion on running specific skills? Either in the energy draining sense, or in increased cool down times every time you use them (with 'them' being all running skills exhaust all others as well as itself)?

Eventually, you'll be too pooped to run.
Yeah, it could be a variant of cripple, the "Man, my legs are killing me" condition.

Or after a certain amount of uses of a runs kill, you're forced to do the /breath animation.
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Medion
Wilds Pathfinder
#28
what i dont understand about this,

why not say:
(to ur team) k guys, u wanna join up back in team arenas??

I mean, why would u stay in there for 1.5 hours, if u dont like chassing some1?
U could have won like a lot of other fights in that time.

Another thing; i think running shouldnt be 'forbidden'(<--dont know how to say it in english). I mean, u guys see it as wasting another persons game, but think of it as another tactic.

I mean: I never heard some1 complain that elementalist waste the fight for others, because the fight was over in a few seconds(<<that happened to me once)

K, ofcourse running for 1.5 hours isnt fun for your opponents, but why stay haning around then?
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Arton
Academy Page
#29
I wonder how much arena runners charge for their services? JK...
You could make sure your team brings something like muddy terrain, slow hexes, etc.. just in case and have a couple people chase the runner into a slow trap.
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Eet GnomeSmasher
Banned
#30
You're right Medion. No one should stay in a pointless match for 1.5 hours. But the thing is, why should these conditions even exist? Doing nothing but running around is nothing but griefing. And it's not a tactic... If you're just running you're not trying to kill the other team which is the objective.

I can fully understand if you're kiting as a caster so the warrior cant hit you. I'm not begrudging that.
Jetdoc
Jetdoc
Hell's Protector
#31
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Originally Posted by lyra_song
Any sort of combat sport like martial arts and boxing would not tolerate behavior like this.
It would be SWEET to see something like this in boxing - like a Three Stooges video with Curly running around the ring away from some massive guy. Awesome.

Again, I think this would be more comedy relief than an actual skill with honor associated with it. But, that's just me being too lighthearted (as usual)...
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Dax
Wilds Pathfinder
#32
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Originally Posted by sir skulkcrasher
umm.. in PvP players have the right to used different tactics.
Agreed. I don't PvP, but I keep hearing things about strategy and stuff. Seems to me they had a strategy and it worked somewhat. I also keep hearing about things like "if it's in the game, it's meant to be that way" but evidently that only works sometimes.
Kool Pajamas
Kool Pajamas
Forge Runner
#33
I dont see anything wrong with it. If you dont like it, bring something to counter it. Health degens and other skills will work well. Every build has a counter build.
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Axle_Fieshe
Banned
#34
if someone is runnin i just minimize GW and do somethin else for 10 minutes
they only continue running if someone is chasing
Signet of Humility
Signet of Humility
Academy Page
#35
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Originally Posted by lyra_song
In team arena around 2:00 AM EST american servers.

My team encountered another team with a player named Natures Ne Groe. Battle started normally until both Elementalist on their team were beaten. The two remaining players then proceeded to run around the arena without fighting back. The mesmer was killed but the ranger, the player in question, Natures Ne Groe would not go down.

Apparently the player had used a running build specifically to "RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO with people" and proceeded to lead my team in a cat and mouse around the arena for 20 minutes.

the player was a R/W with skills including sprint, dryder's defense, whirling defense, troll unguent, dodge, escape.

I think this kind of conduct is unsportsmanlike and very degrading to other players. It is very upsetting to players like myself who want to battle other players in a fair and level playing field. This kind of conduct should not be tolerated. It was also most unsportmanslike for the player's own teammates because the player was not a supporting or offensive player, but rather just a running player.

I didnt leave the battle but i was disconnected, eventually leaving only our monk to deal with him/her.

if im not mistaken o.O
that dude is in iS...
that better be a diffrent iS if not then dang.. sB + FaB might b bawd
smurfhunter
smurfhunter
Banned
#36
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Originally Posted by Signet of Humility
if im not mistaken o.O
that dude is in iS...
that better be a diffrent iS if not then dang.. sB + FaB might b bawd
aaah no worries, iS was just getting owned in their last few gvg's and most probably their flag runner decided he needed to boost his ego somehow...

lame
lyra_song
lyra_song
Hell's Protector
#37
Running will not win you HoH matches (with one exception)

Running will not win you GvG matches

This isnt a "strategy". Like the person said himself/herself "I like f--king with people." Its not the same as being a flag runner.

If the person was fighting and ended up being alone, the natural tendency is to run. This I can understand because I play monk and running away is part of staying alive as a monk. But this person came into battle designed to run, not to use it as a keep alive tactic, but to frustrate fellow players. I consider this as derogatory as using any profane language. It's disrespectful and ruins everyone's enjoyment.

My other teammates were so frustrated that they quit playing for the night entirely. I pulled out a book and let my character chase him/her. My monk friend turned on the tv. Like i said earlier, i would have stayed if i didnt error out.

I feel justified in complaining about this kind of attitude toward other players. For some of you who see nothing wrong with this "strategy", you've obviously never PvP again a pair of W/Mo both with charge and sprint and healing skills. I do not understand how people can condone this or let alone ignore it.

I have no problem with the build. I can condone runners because after playing through the game several times, sometimes you just want to skip right to the desert and power level. I understand the reasoning behind running. But not in PvP. This I cannot accept.
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Dax
Wilds Pathfinder
#38
Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
Running will not win you HoH matches (with one exception)

Running will not win you GvG matches

This isnt a "strategy". Like the person said himself/herself "I like f--king with people." Its not the same as being a flag runner.
Of course if that's the intended effect then it clearly was a successful strategy.

Like i said it has been a common rationalization for alot of things I would call somewhat unethical gameplay as 'intended because it is allowed'. I would definately agree if there is no other reason to do this than because 'I like to mess around' is pretty lame, but it's rather par for the course.
Ollj
Ollj
Jungle Guide
#39
I think ill do a runner once, too, just for fun and of course a PURE runner incl spell breaker.
and after that ill do an EMo that stands like a statue because you also lack in basic interrupts. whine more please.

why?
Because YOU still don't use conditions, instiration mesmers, blood necromancers and speed enchantments the right way.
They do more than stopping runners, bringing them is NOT to stop runners, its to attack quicker and to do damage monks can hardly heal.

And even if you do not have one of those you stil WASTE your time with the runner instead of just leaving to have fun in the game.

youre just asking for it, ill give it to you, see ya soon, catch me it you can
Lag Hell
Lag Hell
Desert Nomad
#40
this has given me an idea for a hoh/gvg run... u must have a team of 8 dedicated runners with ALOT oftime on their hands, in every match they would jus run around like crazy dodging everything, and boring the other team to quit, and using this tactic to win >_>

yes...i am very stoned right now so dont ask me wat i was thinkin...