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Originally Posted by Arianna Darkfire
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Town Dweller Join Date: Nov 2005 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is a statement by Gaile Gray Quote: Originally Posted by Gaile Hey, there. First of all, let's clear something up: Defensive? Moi? Nah. If I was defensive I would have spent today hiding under my desk. I'd rather head into LA and talk to the players. I know I saw some of you there; thanks for stopping by. It was a good chat, even if the window scrolled so quickly I couldn't keep up. (Sorry!) Yes, there were a number of upset people. I think a lot of us can remember the same sort of reaction in other titles with their “Patch Days.” But the difference is, we understand and we are listening. And we'll be the first to admit that in addition to changing the game in ways that you may not have expected, we changed the game in ways that we didn't expect either, with adding a few bugs. Can't remember all I said, but here in greater detail is what I'd like to say now: Guild Wars has had a bit of a disconnect between the two forms of gameplay: PvP and PvE. What works beautifully in PvP may not work well in PvE, and vice versa. In part, that is ok, but it has also been not ok, because there should be a form of seamlessness between the two gameplay choices, so that what you use in one is also useful in the other. Also, there were problems with the monster and henchman AI. So, in order to bring the game back to more of a shared-experience feeling, rather than a feeling of having two entirely separate and different games, we undertook the first of a few changes: We improved the monster and henchman AI. Henchmen are more intelligent and will do things that you need them to do to get the job done. In other words, they will be more like human players. Likewise, monsters will be given a swift kick in the behi... excuse me.. will be given an similar increase in intelligence, too. Where before they stood stupidly by as Fire Storm rained death and destruction upon them, now, they might actually make a defensive move and, you know, get out of the spell effect! For after all, monsters shouldn't be stupid. While they may never match a human player in intelligence, they should be clever and canny and crafty in figuring out how to win. If you've ever played with a kitten, you know that animals are not stupid. They assess their opponent -- even if it's just a catnip mouse. They weigh when to scratch or bite, when to pounce, and if you suddenly make ferocious noices that makes the kitten sense peril, the kitten even knows when to back away and reappraise the situation. Animals have a sense of self-preservation equal to or greater than that of humans. The improvement to the AI will help make the monsters more "realistic," I guess you could say. It will make them more worthy opponents. Some players don't like that. They prefer the "play with one hand, eat a pizza with the other, while watching TV and talking on the phone." Or they prefer being able to solo the Underworld without breaking a sweat. And come on, guys, no one should be soloing the Underworld! It makes no sense at all, and we know it and we accept full responsibility for the fact that it was possible when it never should have been. Things were imbalanced. We've made a move towards putting them back into balance and giving greater valuation to foes of all kinds: Undead, White Mantle, Charr, and all. As monsters improve in intelligence, it allows us to improve skills so that skills that were never used in PvP will be more viable against both players and monsters. It allows us to make skills that were once used exclusively in PvP more appropriate for PvE as well. A substantial number of people have been testing these changes for several weeks. But none of us really caught the fact that some of what we were doing wasn't quite right, and that some was, in fact, quite broken. Monster run-away was a selected, intentional mechanic. However, having them run away in a Dance Macabre, "like chickens with their heads cut off," wasn't on the To Do List. We made the change purposely because the feedback we got was that monsters were too stupid -- we knew that was true. But the change options were (1) have monsters run out of the AOE and stand on the edge in order to attack again, or (2) have them run away without the turn-and-fire, making them harder to track down and kill. We are trying for greater variety of reactions and certainly believe the animations were improveable over what we had last night. Guild Wars had a few design issues concerning AI, and we've taken and will continue to take steps to correct that. The changes that we make may affect how you play, or perhaps even what you play. I wouldn't rush out to change every one of your characters because we're still making adjustments. And do be assured that we will be monitoring the changes to make sure that we don't change needlessly, and to make sure that what we do doesn't make a skill, or an entire skill line, useless. If a particular skill has been overly affected by the recent updates, we'll make amends by correcting that skill. If you have a case to state, state it on that: "This skill has suffered from the changes and should be improved and here’s what I’ve experienced." Not “Roll back the update,” or “I’m going to play some other game.” Help us with good analysis and with comments of a constructive nature. And watch for positive changes in the future. __________________ Gaile Gray Community Relations Manager ArenaNet www.guildwars.com Just to let you all know they are listening to us Also and thank you Sir Gayle for taking your time out to speak with all of us here in Guild Wars cuz we really do care about this game and community  |
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Originally Posted by entropy
Like a politician. All bs. They tested this??? It took me 2 minutes to see what went wrong. And they tested this for two weeks Pfft. Definetley incompetent.
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Originally Posted by entropy
Well if you really want to argue that point sure I will. I say obvious as in my first 2 mins of playing with the new update I could see many things that went wrong.
Ignite sending them running is an easy example. Gaile Gray(pfft) said that they had tested for 2 weeks I believe. In two weeks testing one hit aoe's didnt occur to them once? |
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Originally Posted by entropy
O.K. check out the vid. Telling me I didn't test this wow. If my comp was fast enough I get fraps and record it
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Originally Posted by meranlliril
i actualy enjoyed the hydra standing still near me so i could smite them... that way i could talk to people in my room apposed to being deemed an unsocialable pig.....
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| also to the insultive post earlier.... whats the point making it harder if there are people that already cant do the game... |
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Originally Posted by Theos
The term obvious error is so opinionated and subjective to a view point that it cannot be used.
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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
It was too easy before
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Originally Posted by Red Aideen
Somthing needs to be done yes.
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the suggestion i sent in was that the mob still scatter but carry the damage with them.
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Originally Posted by Perishiko ReLLiK
The pve game is still just as easy as before, i've had no such problems, besides the fact of not getting quite the full effect of aoe... and i would be willing to guarantee that you don't use a team of full aoe
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
the suggestion i sent in was that the mob still scatter but carry the damage with them.example is firestorm which you just mentioned. cast firestorm take initial burst of damage run but still be burning for the specified time. |
