Poll on the 10/10 and 10/11 Update

When my phone company change it’s rate, I complained and they give me more free features.
When my cable company changed what channels it provides…well, it doesn’t happen to me.
When my car insurance is increased, I complained, and they changed it back the way it was.
Am I living in a real world? Sure dam I am, because as today’s poll, 514 players are not happy about the patch. And what does the poll tell you? Majority of players of GW are not happy about the patch. And that is the REAL WORLD.
BTW, you do not need to be a king to have the rights of a customer, and that is another fact from the real world. Face it.

The +5 energy sword is gone which is a shame as i would like one but never had the chance, The -50hp is still available (or was 2 weeks ago).


Sorry but i have to agree, FOW absoloutly sucks for drops & UW too (in teams)

Always were, but im not really a trader

actually a good point, green farming is a good money spinner for the average team player (not solo farmer), if i want to make money i go solo.

I read Gaile's explanation behind the changes. I am not sure I really believe that is the reason for the change. Many of their changes have revolved around anti-farming.

I like the PvP aspect to this game, unfortunately, I've never been able to hook up with a guild that actually did PvP.

I just hope they stop chasing the farmers and work on enhancing game play for everyone. I wonder when the Nerfing will stop? If they keep on Nerfing, then it will be the powergamers who hold the edge.

Remember ANet, the common player can't get the $$ do buy the weapons to level the playing surface for PvP when getting $$ is hard. Also, becareful of your Nerfing causing the game to be full of have-nots with only a few haves.

I know that I'm compromizing because I adjusted some of my characters but what can I do, I do not want to stop playing this game.
My hope is that they leave it alone now.
I do not care about the mosters running away in a normal fight the things I was pissed about is farming.
Its hard to get money in this game. I'm just glad that I've been playing since it came out and feel sorry for new people starting up.

I think you have 4 kind of groups

Farmers and elm nukers who hate the patch
People that do not farm and love it because they want a chanllenge.
New people that still know nothing about the game
Then people that are in betweeen these groups

..well 1 out of 3 ppl have a farmer or nuker amongst their characters....i think i said enough =)

ANTI BOTTING NOT ANTI FARMING

getting rid of the botters will enhance it for everybody.

as for the haves and have nots the farmers have always been the haves and the not farmers are the have nots.

Collector's items/weapons merchants and cheap upgrades. Does nobody know about collectors?

botters are indeed what cause the economy to inflate/deflate wildly, but if you think about it this update affects them the most of anyone; augury is no longer full of mo/w's and w/mo's running out to farm, because they suck at it now. other plus-sides of the update are economical - have you looked at monk rune prices lately? within maybe a week, monks who actually play a monk properly will be able to afford runes. i've noticed rare drop prices on the rise too...sure farming has become more challenging, but perhaps ANET will finally get you to use it's chest keys more often?

anyways, anet had the right idea behind the update, they were just sloppy in some areas *cough aggro chasing range*

Can anyone actually confirm this patch can really stop people using BOTS to farm? and how? Because I heard something quite different otherwise. Thx

you wouldnt mean the new *i will chase you til you zone or die* aggro would you

I read a wee thingie on web (may be out of date, or plain wrong) which said that GW had 21% of the market and shipped 200,000 copies weekly (although i suspect this may be $$ rather than game units).

Thats a lot of upfront cash. Why would they care if a few thousand people stop playng. Apparently 17,600,000 other players out there.

Anyway. I changed 2 skills and can still farm. As did most of the people in my guild. So the update failed.

I would like to see this update reversed, not because it makes the game more difficult, not because it stops farming, but because half my guild, and 75% of my friends list have left for World of Warcraft (so far i have resisted the temptation, but it DOES loom)

All the fun has gone out of the game for us. We enjoyed standing about town swapping stories of stupid monsters. We enjoyed Benny Hill scenes of 7 or 8 monsters chasing a character (thank heaven monsters cant get suspenders), with one person picking them off.

But all that is gone.

I just wish GW would sort the real problems with the game rather than the ones they imagine are there. I mean, come on, its cheaper to buy rare materials from the trader than it is to craft.

I cant see why, and challenge ANY Guild War official to explain, why they are so against farming. Who does it harm? Why should you care if your ingame gold is sold ex-game. It gets your profile raised in the media and on the web. GOOD THING. Why should you care if some professional, loaded with cash but strapped for time, wants to buy 100k for a fiver. Big Deal. Who does it hurt.

As far as I can see, and i have been playing this game for over 3 months now, you are systematically trying to stop players from doing anything except missions and quests. And even then, you have made it so that you have to party with people and not hench. Well sorry, i work a 14 hour day and sometimes i am just too grumpy to listen to a 12 year old ask me if i like oasis. Just want 30 easy mins of killing things. As for making it more challenging, why? If you want a challenge, create a Player vs Player...thing...arena...oh, you already have...

People are saying ArenaNet dont care about our opinions and will keep this update. I say we dont care about ArenaNets opinion, farming will continue.

By the way, I dont know one person who hasnt cancelled Chapter 2 (and i can almost say i dont know 1 person in game either)

Last word. This update was a masterpiece of marketing by World of Warcraft. They are making a mint out of it...

Haha, if I had a nickel for all the stories of heard of people quitting WoW due to boredom, I could buy 3 more copies of GW.

Your propoganda is ineffective.

it made things harder for bots and you can still farm so why say it failed?

Do you actually know how BOTS works in GW? If you know, please tell me how the patch makes the BOTS harder for farming. Many thanks.

you said it yourself "it made it harder for bots". didnt stop them. doesnt stop humans either. and bear in mind, its only a handful of peopel who hardcore farm.

If they want to tackle the selling of money etc out of game, why not encourage people to report people offering in game money. These might be bots, but at least the account can be deleted. And if these people have to purchase enough new accounts, they will stop.

Anyway, is useless talking about it cos ArenaNet wont take a blind bit of notice.

All I am waiting for is the next update/patch. if it nerfs the game rather than addressing some of the issues people have re guild storage, the economy, pre sear bags/storage etc, I will stop playing it. Plenty of other games out there (and on my shelf) to play. X3...UFO : Aftershock...

as opposed to leaving the door open with a wagon inside and a note saying help yourself.

i am pve only farm a bit and got rid of firestorm and searing heat and changed my farming a bit and no big deal.

and wait until the MAJOR update where the 6-8 skeleton rangers with poison arrows follow you around the corner of a building instead of trying to shoot through the wall while you laugh at their stupidity (you and i used to firestorm them while we laughed)

the yells when they stop shooting walls and start shooting you will make this look like a tempest in a teapot

dont think i will be around for it
just ordered x3 and UFO : Aftershock off play.com

And as for the geezers comment re leaving WoW due to boredom, never tried it. It got a pish review. All i am saying is what my guild and friends told me before leaving. Is propoganda, is just a statement that people are making a choice. But ArenaNet arent taking any notice. Thats the trouble when you have a subs free game. No customer clout.

before that update that nerfed aoe, beasts that chased you round corners would have been fine, cos i had damn good people to back me up. Now, it all noobs saying "add me to friends"

I am all for the patch to Aoe anyway. Lets look at it this way if you were surrounded by fire wouldnt you try to get out of the way. And yes it sucks but makes it more real in my eyes. And as a side note. now AOE spells will make the crowd run when you boxed in. So GOOD JOB ANet. I like it.

After an initial screw-up the patch is working and yes the entertainment (and real quick money) has been taken away. Good.

This morning I found that I could make good money BUT would have to think and hunt in order to be effective.

Maybe the inevitable "clever" players who whine about farming are simply "spoilt babies".

Regarding posts here that allude to it being reasonable for anyone to run when a meteor storms hits them I say: "Congrats at least there are a few (actually the poll shows more than a few) of us that enjoy some sense of intelligent interaction between player and enemy"

"Congrats at least there are a few (actually the poll shows more than a few) of us that enjoy some sense of intelligent interaction between player and enemy"...with bugs as a side-dish.

I have to agree that implementation of this patch is not balanced like it should be...
But, I can still farm Elonas minotaurs with my N/Mo, even better than before. It is even more easy than before, becouse now you can control the number of foes on you. They do run away from AoE spells, but they also keep coming back!
And that type of control works in other areas also. So...not a that big nerf after all.....

I havent played in a week. dont intend to either. I say why nerf? as they can see they just switch styles and continue. But why should i have to switch the way i play? I enjoyed the way i did things. Now it can be done but i have to do something different? thats sounds stupid, so now i wait for them to nerf that too? i think I just do something different my own way(by playing other non-ncsoft games). good bye to a used to be cool game.

Ps. no one i know will be buying the expansion either , and it may seem minor next to the 128 b-zillion spineless goons willing to bow to anets will, but there were 10 RL people in my click that are pissed they wasted their money and wont be wasting more on NC-SOFT games.

Well this game is already going down the drain. Ember light camp(dis 1). No people. At least 30% of the game population left.

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that is really a very good whine.

you are also the type of person who will say a game sucks because it is the same old thing from start to finish.

and yes there will be an even bigger bunch to buy chapter 2.

as to you and your click if a change like this ruins it for you good luck in your new game.

the only thing that makes me curious is why people will register at a fansite just to bitch and announce they are going to another game.

are they closet other game people simply sneaking out from under rocks to troll before going back to their real game?

I find it extremely humorous that the way PvEers feel about this update is exactly the way PvPers felt about release and even the current game.

In my oppinion, the update makes PvE slightly more bearable. The problem with PvE in the first place (other than linear maps, and no feeling of uncertainty) is stupid AI.




Pssssst... Rework your build.

[QUOTE=Loviatar]Why are you flaming everyone that camplains about the patch?
If you like it, play more, you should not have time here, in this thread and policing everyone that complains. Are you a Anet salesmam or something?

I don't like this update at all, and am not willing to compromise. 521, 34.78%...Good job, keep it up.

[QUOTE=internetguy] i actually went back for a quick look and it turns out that i made 4 posts (including the one you quoted) complaining about the complainers which is a very small fraction.

thank you for your accuracy

and you who hate it should be at your new game having fun

None of my threads stated that I am going to leave GW. Your action and the other’s (keep calling complainers are whiners) are truly ‘HELPING’ the GW community.

Anet is making a mistake here by implementing the AI patch. As members of this game, 34.76% in total disagreement of this patch, and 17.21% plus 23.95% players are in partial disagreement or dislike of this patch, the public already make their noise. Face it.

You already have a GW that you like, why don’t you let those players don’t like the current GW to express their frustrations. They did not say anything again you in the beginning, why you (an all the people like this patch) are flaming them all the time? Just give them break for god sake.

BTW, I am wondering if you truly know how this patch can stop player use BOTS to farm.

LMAO

Name me an ORPG (whether MMO or not) with a patch that never caused a bug or two.

I'll give you a week for research.

LMAWO, and that is the way you are enjoying it.

Nothing to complain about here.....it is the Weekend and only have 3 days of work next week....

I haven't played many mmo's but loviator how would more people come to buy chapter II than chapter I? It would be logical that most people would start with the game thats the first in the series. Then the people who didn't like ti will quit and the people who like how it goes stay. Ch II comes out and those who liked the game buy ChII but would not new players but CH I before ChII?

a sensible question deserves an answer

lets make a few assumptions i think are reasonable.

a trading system is made that works (auction house whatever) which will make other playing business much easier.

observer mode for the pvp people

bug fixes and general improvements between now and chapter 2 release.

the number of people who came back for halloween shows interest is not dead but is taking a break with something else.

my SPECULATION is that chapter 1 is needed for the foundation of the later chapters is based on the statement that ALL ADDITIONAL chapters will be optional without saying ALL chapters are optional.

to get around the stumbling block of coming up with the price of 2 games (100 dollars chapter 1/2) i see a simple promotion of buy chapter 2 at regular get chapter 1 at (half price/10/5 dollars FREE) whatever the promotion is.

personally i would go for buy chapter 2 get chapter 1 free to establish a bigger player base.

IF all these improvements are made along with all the new content they say they have i see

current happy people buying it

people who are happy with the improvements coming back

new players who like the ad campaign for chapter 2 and decide to try it.

we will see what the results are but i see a bigger base after chapter 2 comes out than the chapter 1 rollout.

just my opinion

I can tolerate running chickens from spells prolonged over time, but if single shots aoes remain broken I'm not gonna buy chapter 2, and many others will do the same.

Anet's policy against farmers is just retarded.
Farmers do not hurt the game experience for other players in any way.
Farmers just want to buy expensive but not necessary things like fow armor and cool looking weapons.

But they keep nerfing farming builds and drops (for regular players too). I just ended an uw trip with other people, not alone. 2 hours in the ultimate pve area: 1 single ecto and 1 gold chest with terrible items (a chakram +5 ar, -5 en for me).

They are gonna lose the whole pve community.

http://www.guildwars.com/community/f...-friday61.html

I think A-net is in the process of tuning GW before the expansion, and I don't blame them. Seriously doubt that they want an experience like SW Galaxies. See story below (apologize if this has already been posted).

Trials of Obi-Wan refunds offered
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The update will introduce sweeping changes to the online game, such as redefining all characters into nine professions and eliminating some skills entirely, such as creature handling. While these and other changes will be introduced gradually, the initial reaction from many of Galaxies' players, some of whom are having years of progress eliminated or trivialized, has been quite negative.

To appease some of those angered by the reworking of Star Wars Galaxies, Sony Online and LucasArts are offering refunds to anyone with a Galaxies account in good standing who purchased the Trials of Obi-Wan before November 3. Players seeking refunds should send their name, address, telephone number, e-mail address, and Station Name to [email protected]. Alternatively, they can send written requests to the following address:

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Another Anet's salesman?

What should that demonstrate?

I cannot care less about chinese farming slaves and people selling golds for real money.
I'm just noticing that they keep nerfing farmers in every single update.
Drops get worse every time (just completed a new necro/mesmer character playing it regularly, not running: ZERO gold drops from monsters in the whole way from ascalon to hells precipe and ZERO superior runes...this must be really encouraging for a casual player), and they keep destroying every single original build, messing up things for pvp players too (prot bond).

And now this idiotic aoe thing. Obviously the purpose was to nerf farmers again, but the result is a broken game for casual players, while farmers keep farming. Slower, but they keep doing it.

I just cannot understand WHY they keep nerfing ( or try to nerf) *regular* farmers.
There are many ppl that enjoy farming to buy expensive things.
A FoW armor dont break the game balance. It has an aesthetic purpose only.
Why 4 months ago a farmer could buy it in 3 weeks and now 3 months are required?

How many hours am I supposed to play to get a decent weapon drop? I dont mean a perfect stormbow with perfect upgrades, I mean something different from +xx% while hexed or +11% vs tengus.

If they keep nerfing this game, they don't need to worry about refund, because not too many people are buying the expansion anyways.

the policy is against BOTS not farmers


correction in they want them right now and not after 10 months work .
give me 5 ecto and a super item i can sell for 200k per run or it is nerfed beyond playing

poor drama on that with major hystrionics on the side

Sure, but bots will always exist, while regular farmers are RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed every time.


I dont want my fow armor right now. I want to buy it in a long but reasonable time, like it was 4 months ago. Now it's just unfair for new players. The conditions to buy an item should remain constant over time.

I dont want 5 ectos in every single uw run, but I think that the ultimate pve area should guarantee at least something DECENT after a 3 hours trip (in a team, not alone), not only dust, demonic poo (can be salvaged for more dust if you feel the necessity), and a 12-21 white stormbow.



I missed a word. They are gonna lose the whole pve farming community.
And no, your sarcasm is not funny.