Mystery in Augury Int. 1

ghostlyranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

hey i think i want to trade with them, but seems that i cant input chinese word in gw? anyone know how to do it.

Shadowdaemon

Shadowdaemon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Anderson IN USA

Ecks Di [xD]

W/N

yeah, just open up the My Computer icons, and switch your font to wingdings.


im j/k i dont think you can do it without a korean version of gw

UltimaXtreme

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
The bots auto get the items, The Guys that hit you with the unids are working the items, I have spoken to a few who say "my boss will kill me if I sell to low". The gold made is then sold on websites for real cash. 1 million gold makes about 150 dollors £75 100 euros.

Its a buisness for the far east countries who pay a guy 1 dollor an hour to stay online selling the items

100% true, the currency difference in china and the US are completely different, 1USD = 8 chinese dollars, if u ever lived in china before you will know that making a couple usd an hour can make a living.


so yes, i dont hold any grudge against them, and neither should you. the only thing they do is make things cheaper for you to buy, theres many of them that trade u like 8 godly unids and they ask you for prices such as 30-50k. and some of these unids i seen go for high amounts on the actual gw market. their usually separate from where we play, most of them could be found in international districts so it really wouldn't matter, but theres always a couple that hang around with the americans.

Kais Unduli

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

I went there a few times looking for items, but I got bombarded with people opening up the trade menu, showing a few unID items, and whispering me "buy?".

entropy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/W

bah I was there but nobody traded with me. . If only I could understand what they were saying.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by AncientPC
Numa Pompilius either:
A) Is on the Europe realm.
B) Doesn't trade.
C) Both.

I don't play PvP, therefore you don't hear me spouting off nonsense about why some builds should or should not work.
The correct answer was A), plus I visit the intl district, where I have a good laugh at the botters & sweatshop farmers. Who in their right mind would buy gear at exorbitant prices from the same guys who sell the gold you need to buy their gear with on ebay?

Are you telling me prices are 300-500% higher in the Korean realm?

Wow.

Nice proof that having hundreds of farmers around causes inflation.

"The good green items"... LOL! Nice one. You wouldn't happen be one of these farmers, would you?

entropy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/W

Their prices are not high. Actually many I've met sell for cheaper since they are bots with a person behind them that just farm all day. They need to get rid of their loot fast so they can farm some more. The faster they can sell it for a decent price the faster they farm again.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Entropy: I thought you said noone traded with you? In 30 minutes you met "many" and they sold stuff to you cheaper than other traders?

entropy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/W

Was reffering to the majority of botters such as in ember light camp....

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Oh, OK. Hahaha, you're gonna laugh, for a second there I though you were following me around in the forum, contradicting everything I say in four different threads just because you were pissed about me smacking you around in the update thread. Hahaha, how pathetic would you have had to be to do THAT?
Thank god I was mistaken!

AncientPC

AncientPC

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Ascalon 1

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
The correct answer was A), plus I visit the intl district, where I have a good laugh at the botters & sweatshop farmers. Who in their right mind would buy gear at exorbitant prices from the same guys who sell the gold you need to buy their gear with on ebay?
Because they sell for cheaper than regular players.

Quote:
Are you telling me prices are 300-500% higher in the Korean realm?
In the American Realm,

Quote:
Wow.

Nice proof that having hundreds of farmers around causes inflation.
Farmers increase supply, demand is constant, prices drop. Farmers increase circulating currency, prises rise. It works both ways.

That statement is as pointless as me going to UK and claiming it's stupid to pay £5 for a hamburger and coke because that's US $10. However relatively it's all the same.

Quote:
"The good green items"... LOL! Nice one. You wouldn't happen be one of these farmers, would you?
Over 500 hours I have gone on:
1 SF run
3 SF FA runs
3 UW runs
2 FOW runs

entropy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Oh, OK. Hahaha, you're gonna laugh, for a second there I though you were following me around in the forum, contradicting everything I say in four different threads just because you were pissed about me smacking you around in the update thread. Hahaha, how pathetic would you have had to be to do THAT?
Thank god I was mistaken!
You sound like a 13 year old teenager with much angst. Smacking me in the update thread lmao. The reason I quote you in four threads is because they are all about the update... this one is because you mentioned me. If you really want to go and insult me just do it. Don't try to walk around it and say well thats pretty pathetic. You assume way to much and TELL me im a farmer a noob that sucks a PvE that I exploit the ai and consider me to just such at the game and need to nuke to survive. Check your other posts and they are all in their. Let me say this one and for all.
1) I have never farmed
2) I have never played a fire ele ever
3) back to #1 & #2

Maiyn

Maiyn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Canada

I Excentrix I [PuNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sister Rosette
And more than likely most of them are bots.
I used to make this assumption as well in riverside. However, you are wrong. They are not bots.. they're a mixture of bots, and Korea/Asian farmers selling their goods.

You pretend that is english and tell me it's any different than in LA dist 1....

Secondly... to all those who say we increase inflation, you're wrong. We increase supply, and therefore prices WOULD go down... should anyone stop complaining about farmers long enough to see what was going on in the trade zones lately..

Not like I care.. because I can farm regardless... Sigh.

I really actually like the International dist.. they sell for good prices.. lol provided you can cross the language barriers

I don't put money back into the economy... take a look at my armor. I spend my money on gold sinks like a good little farm bot

Willy Rockwell

Willy Rockwell

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Well I see my thread has generated a lot of interesting conversation over the weekend. Just one thing, if Augury Int. is a marketplace where Koreans sell to the world, where are the buyers? I saw only Koreans there. In fact, when I asked questions I was totally ignored. I felt like I was on Mars. Check it out yourself, its really weird.

entropy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/W

Totally agree. The only speak in asianese . Go to LA int If you want american people I think

Network

Network

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Im scared.

yesitsrob

yesitsrob

Elite Guru

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

SMS/Victrix

I took a look in Augery int 1 today - it's been going on for ages, bots galore - anet should do something about it

Willy Rockwell

Willy Rockwell

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

There are no bargains there. I typed "wtb Ecto" and got a price of 14K. When I asked how much each for ten they said "13K OK?"

How can you tell a bot when you see one in town?

ghostlyranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

in augury int 1, 99% of them is chinese, not koreans.

i see more koreans in ascalon international

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

shou gou jin wuqi = WTB sword

shou = WTB

I think shou cai liao = WTB hammer, cuz i got lots of hammer trade windows right after that one, lol

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

I want to learn their language.

Xethrion

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Ka Tet of Gilead

Me/W

Yes, they're speaking in chinese.

jin wuqi basically means gold weapons.

cai liao means ingredients, or in this case, I think it means weapon components.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Willy Rockwell
There are no bargains there.
Nope. And why should they sell anything cheap - their real business is selling gold on ebay. High prices are their lifeblood.

Quote:
How can you tell a bot when you see one in town?
Normally you can't. Not even ANet can detect bots reliably. Also the farms employ human minders, each watching several bots (in case a bot gets stuck, or if a GM gets suspicious and PMs a bot) and he'll answer if you try to talk to the bot. Also any trading is done by humans - as far as I know bots can't trade with humans (there is, or atleast was, bots which can speculate in npc trader commodities, though).

Willy Rockwell

Willy Rockwell

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

After studying the population in Augury Int I do believe most of them are bots. They do not move or emote, do not form groups, they are almost all monks and when most of them speak they only say "shou wu qi". In fact, they seem to be programmed to say this over and over. I think the bots are only there long enough to get their backpacks cleared out, then they are sent back out to farm. The market for GW gold on Ebay is huge and has become quite an industry.

Sister Rosette

Sister Rosette

Lady Fie

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sapporo

Tha Skulls [Ts]

D/W

I saw one say 'Shaq Fu' the other day.
I got scared and logged out. Then dug out my
Sega Genesis and played it.


FIREY BASKETBALLS FTW

Nefertem

Nefertem

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Initech

The Bobs

E/Me

I think Chinese text support is still in Beta development, is it not?

Xethrion

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Ka Tet of Gilead

Me/W

Funnily enough, I can read their chinese text just fine. Perhaps it's because I have it installed on my comp already.

Pong

Pong

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

[CSA] Chinese Spammers Academy

Mo/W

I have been here many times. I'm surprised people are just now noticing this. If you go down to where most of the monks are exiting out of prophets path, you will notice that about 1 in every 9 get stuck behind the sign at the portal. I think these are the bots. All these guys buy cheap here and then they go to Lions Arch d 1 to sell. If you stay in there for about 20 min or so and watch the guys spamming and then go to lions arch a little later you will see them. I have seen about 7 of them spam for over 24 hrs non stop. I would say they are just earning gold to sell on a web site.

Gwenhywar

Gwenhywar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Shameful Spirits [SsP]

Mo/

Numa Pompilius - amusing that someone with so little clue on the matter of prices and trade value of items is so insisting on making it known to everyone who wanders into this thread .

I won't even add any comments, AncientPC and others already have said it all.

Willy Rockwell

Willy Rockwell

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gwenhywar
Numa Pompilius - amusing that someone with so little clue on the matter of prices and trade value of items is so insisting on making it known to everyone who wanders into this thread .

I won't even add any comments, AncientPC and others already have said it all.
I thought Numa's comment was very helpful. Yours was just arrogant. Do you expect us all to read every single thread on this very large board before we comment on something? I have no idea what AncientPC's contribution might have been.

Loquetus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Total Equilibrium of Telenet

Mo/W

strange thing is that now people in augury rock europe district are typing in korean aswell
always typing the same thing over again
rather annoying

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

If you want to cause mass chaos, go in there and type in...

"WTB Axe!!!!"

I bet you get 100 messages in 10 seconds flat.

koren

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

aec

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whosaidwhatnow
As a person who lives in Asia I can assure you people aren't playing computer games in concentration camps...
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3141815

Shadowdaemon

Shadowdaemon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Anderson IN USA

Ecks Di [xD]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sister Rosette
I saw one say 'Shaq Fu' the other day.
I got scared and logged out. Then dug out my
Sega Genesis and played it.


FIREY BASKETBALLS FTW


muahahahahahahaha good one, thats f*ing hilarious


oh and by the way, i have bought from korean farmers in lions arch before, they sell stuff pretty cheap actually, some people make money buying of them and reselling for more, im to impatient for it, but it really does work

relaxed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

I'd like to clear up for all here that there are no Koreans trading in the district. I speak Korean and I believe that all of the people in Int. Augery1 speak Chiinese.

To Jetoc's comment above: This seems to be a closed community of Chinese traders. If you spam that you "WTB anything", you will get no response.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Willy Rockwell
I thought Numa's comment was very helpful. Yours was just arrogant. Do you expect us all to read every single thread on this very large board before we comment on something? I have no idea what AncientPC's contribution might have been.
In brief AncientPCs contribution was that the professional sweatshop farmers at Augury Rock, intl district, sell things at 50-75% the price of what the hobbyist farmers at Lions Arch do.
There was more, notably that I made a mistake in my choice of example of why paying huge sums for a perfect upgrade is stupid (although he agreed with the gist of the argument) but that's the core.

Anyone can go to Augury Rock, intl. district, and check prices for themselves. IME, however, the professional farmers there are definitely not cheaper than hobbyist farmers in the EU realm.

What Gwenhywars beef is I do not know.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

Ahh sweet, Now I know where to go to look for cheap upgrades

Willy Rockwell

Willy Rockwell

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

As I wrote previously, the prices at Augury Int are higher than elsewhere, and the people there don't really seem to want to sell to outsiders. They are busy doing incomprehensible things.
I said "wtb Ecto" and got a price much higher than anywhere else. Why they are in Int I don't know. Doesn't Asia have its own servers?

AncientPC

AncientPC

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Ascalon 1

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefertem
I think Chinese text support is still in Beta development, is it not?
If you hit F11 you can change to Chinese text and it works just fine.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Willy Rockwell
After studying the population in Augury Int I do believe most of them are bots. They do not move or emote, do not form groups, they are almost all monks and when most of them speak they only say "shou wu qi". In fact, they seem to be programmed to say this over and over. I think the bots are only there long enough to get their backpacks cleared out, then they are sent back out to farm. The market for GW gold on Ebay is huge and has become quite an industry.
To those who think they're all botters:
I've talked to quite a few of them in Chinese and unless they have bots are intelligent enough to respond to horribly romanacized Chinese (never learned pinyin), they're not bots. The reason they're in Augury is the majority of them are gryphon farmers.

Why would they sell at 50-75% of the max price?
Because their goal is to sell quickly for the max profit available. You're right, they make their money selling gold and they get that gold by selling items to human players. They farm so much that their inventories are swelled up to the point that they would rather dump at 75% market value than try to push for 100%.

Where do I get my 75% estimate from? Perfect mods.

If you visit Ascalon1, LA1, or DF1 (all American districts) the current going price for 10/10 sunder axe haft is 50-60k. Anybody selling in the 30-40k range usually has a Chinese name with broken English.

Son of Mooky

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/Mo

Try this:

Wo yao mai = I want to buy
jin = gold

then put in whatever item/ price and see if they reply more.

shou is the shortened =xiao shou which means to sell
they can't use mai because it can be translated in to buy or sell depending on the tone used.