White Dye Formula
BuddyLeeX
I mixed 3 silver dye + 1 yellow dye and applied it on all 4 pieces of my female hydromancer armor and it looks very shiny silver....I was very disappointed because I was expecting WHITE.
Ensign
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Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
The problem is that those of us, and there are a number of us around, who are experiementing with dye still do not fully understand how the base colour of the armour influences the resulting colour.
I'm not an expert on DirectX but I can give a basic overview of how the dyes are working. Basically each set of armor is a texture that's being shaded by shining a virtual 'light' onto it of a specified color. An armor with a red dye is the base armor with an intense red light shined upon the specific sections of it that are affected by the dye. After that the model has environmental lighting effects processed in which gives you the final appearance of the armor in game.
How they get different effects out of that I'm not sure (again no experience programming DirectX shading). I would assume that the different color dyes affect the properties of the light shading your armor. Dye remover would seem to work as a 'dilution', lowering the intensity of the light and allowing more of the natural color of the armor to show through. Silver and black dyes seemingly strip color information from the textures and affect the ambient lighting.
How dyes mix from there, I really don't know. People have been guessing at it in this thread and I'm sure someone will figure it out eventually. But in any case that's how shading works in games like this one so take it into account in your model. =)
Peace,
-CxE
How they get different effects out of that I'm not sure (again no experience programming DirectX shading). I would assume that the different color dyes affect the properties of the light shading your armor. Dye remover would seem to work as a 'dilution', lowering the intensity of the light and allowing more of the natural color of the armor to show through. Silver and black dyes seemingly strip color information from the textures and affect the ambient lighting.
How dyes mix from there, I really don't know. People have been guessing at it in this thread and I'm sure someone will figure it out eventually. But in any case that's how shading works in games like this one so take it into account in your model. =)
Peace,
-CxE
Elvarg
Can someone post instructions on HOW to apply the YSSS combo? I see several possible ways:
1. Put Yellow on (clean)armor, put Silver on (Y)armor, put Silver on (Y,S)armor, put Silver on (Y,S,S)armor
1.1 Put the dyes one by one on the armor but in differnet order than above
2. Mix Yellow with Silver, mix YSmix with Silver, mix YSSmix with silver, apply YSSSmix to armor
3. Combination of 1-2 (like put YSmix on armor, add 2 coats of Silver)
Simply giving the needed dyes is not enough, its like saying you need 2 eggs and 1 pound of flour for a cake, but never mentioning how to bake it.
1. Put Yellow on (clean)armor, put Silver on (Y)armor, put Silver on (Y,S)armor, put Silver on (Y,S,S)armor
1.1 Put the dyes one by one on the armor but in differnet order than above
2. Mix Yellow with Silver, mix YSmix with Silver, mix YSSmix with silver, apply YSSSmix to armor
3. Combination of 1-2 (like put YSmix on armor, add 2 coats of Silver)
Simply giving the needed dyes is not enough, its like saying you need 2 eggs and 1 pound of flour for a cake, but never mentioning how to bake it.
lg5000
mix silver with yellow, then add another silver, then the last silver.. THEN apply to armor.
Mimi Miyagi
Mix all of the dyes together. The order of which ones are mixed doesn't matter. Once you've mixed all of the dyes (y+s+s+s) then apply it to a piece of armor.
FireMountain
then you could go silver on silver on silver then yellow
lg5000
No, if you go silver on silver, it'll show up as 2 silver.. so you'd have to mix silver with yellow or yellow with silver first.
William Sunrider
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Originally Posted by bowwow
ok..since noone is trying it out for real i decided to give it a go on 15k gladiators > this is 3 silver + 1 dye remover
im happy with it
It should be mentioned, that this dye mix works with 2 SIlvers and 1 remover. And that this WHITE is only in the FIre islands, outside EMber light camp. Anywhere else you get a pale champagne color.
im happy with it
Mournblade
For 15k glads armor, I haven't found anything brighter and/or shinier than a simple silver dye...
The 15k ascalon boots on the other hand could use some polishing. :\
The 15k ascalon boots on the other hand could use some polishing. :\
Naqser
why not try the complete rainbow color scheme like in real life?
but i guess u get brown or some other dirty color, like in real life when u paint
but i guess u get brown or some other dirty color, like in real life when u paint
azuresun
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Originally Posted by Weazzol
Any Mesmers out there find a nice white'sh combination yet? If so, do you have any pic's?
I did the yellow + 3 silvers on mine that has drok armor (rouge chest & boots, and I think just ench's hands & legs). It made the trim pretty darn close to white, but the main color was just more of a light grey. I'll try to remember to post a couple pics when I get home. I do not know the recipe for this, but I came across this screen shot online. Unless someone is really good with photoshop, there has to be a way to achieve a pure white on the mesmer enchanter set. I too have tried the Yellow+Silver+Silver+Silver and I get a shimmery light silver, not white.
http://guildwars.gameamp.com/gallery/viewScreenshots/15882.php!return_gallery=35&return_page=1
I did the yellow + 3 silvers on mine that has drok armor (rouge chest & boots, and I think just ench's hands & legs). It made the trim pretty darn close to white, but the main color was just more of a light grey. I'll try to remember to post a couple pics when I get home. I do not know the recipe for this, but I came across this screen shot online. Unless someone is really good with photoshop, there has to be a way to achieve a pure white on the mesmer enchanter set. I too have tried the Yellow+Silver+Silver+Silver and I get a shimmery light silver, not white.
http://guildwars.gameamp.com/gallery/viewScreenshots/15882.php!return_gallery=35&return_page=1
lg5000
It's 3 silver + 1 yellow.. but only shows up like that on the 1.5k enchanters.. from various discussions. That's also why the pic shows it as very light yellow.
Sab
Just tried that on my Enchanters and it turned out...silvery yellow:
AFAIK, YSSS doesn't work on any mesmer armour (male or female) like it does on monk collector's. I've tried it on a bunch of different suits, the colour in that image is more or less what I got in all the tests. Bad location/lighting? Different video settings? I just want to make white dammit!
AFAIK, YSSS doesn't work on any mesmer armour (male or female) like it does on monk collector's. I've tried it on a bunch of different suits, the colour in that image is more or less what I got in all the tests. Bad location/lighting? Different video settings? I just want to make white dammit!
thenewa2x
I don't understand why GW doesn't release white and make it cost more than black!
Tictac
I think that the base color of your armor effects the dyes you put on it. Especially on 15k.
thenewa2x
For reference:
On the pyromancer armor I use, silver dye looks as white as white can get.
On the pyromancer armor I use, silver dye looks as white as white can get.
Eomer Constantine
Anyone tried YSSS or Die Remover+SSS on Knight's Armor? (Besides just the boots)
WiLdFiRe111
Anyone got White on Tormentors? I'm dying here!
Tufty
It all depends on your base armour colour. If the base colour if your armour is yellow then 3 silvers and a dye remover should work for white. For everyone else the yellow plus 3 silvers has varied results. My platemail dosnt look great as most people think its silver. Ive now changed to the secret formula for pink! I used to think red and silver would do but for best results 1 red 2 purple and a silver looks sweet. Dye your weapons a fetching sky blue and Im the most eye catching butch warrior around (best affect dye carrapace shields)
alen
I used silver+ dye remover on my 15k driuds for ranger and it looks fine to me ;-)
Ghozer
i tried the YSSS mix on 15k Aero mancer and it made it a mustard colour
thats 1.5k wasted, i had to pay 8k and buy another black to re-match it with the rest :P
thats 1.5k wasted, i had to pay 8k and buy another black to re-match it with the rest :P
Spydergst1
If the color of your armor (from the crafter) is brown then you have to start your mix with brown as your base color. Since dye remover is actually a dye which will dye your armor its original color then the dye remover is actually a brown dye.
So consider that the starting color or base color should be the dye remover. If you can get white starting with the dye remover then you did it. Chances are is not likely. Since White is a lack of color it will be impossible to mix a white dye from other colors. You may get close by using the closest color to white which is silver to the dye remover (base color) but not likely.
If you base color is a dark color your best bet is to go with yellow=silver+silver+silver.
Has anyone tried to trade this mix with another user? Can you add more dyes a vial of dye which has 4 mixes to it already if you get it from someone else?
So consider that the starting color or base color should be the dye remover. If you can get white starting with the dye remover then you did it. Chances are is not likely. Since White is a lack of color it will be impossible to mix a white dye from other colors. You may get close by using the closest color to white which is silver to the dye remover (base color) but not likely.
If you base color is a dark color your best bet is to go with yellow=silver+silver+silver.
Has anyone tried to trade this mix with another user? Can you add more dyes a vial of dye which has 4 mixes to it already if you get it from someone else?
GW-guy
ive heard of 1 yellow+ 1 silver + 4 removers... havent tested it yet
Nilator
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Originally Posted by CherubimSlayer187
yea totally ive been searching for white dye formula that actually works. I have bought a few recipes out of desperation and they aren't very good.
I see you have 15k plate on your warrior in you Avatar, I used silver+silver+silver+dye remover, and IMO it looks very good on 15k plate.
Ba5sKing
the primary colors of pigment are magenta, cyan, and yellow as you probaly know combine those colors and u ccan make any color so theoretically u should be able to maek white from mixin those three
getchoo
can you give us any other good dye formulas 8)
M C H A M M E R
Man...It looked amazing on my crimson carapace shield, and tall shield, and 15k glads ^_^ Thanks.
gunnery_sgt
silver dye+dye remover+silver dye gave me a pretty good result. Dont have any pics to show you, but it's kinda of a metallic off white.
SnipiousMax
I have it on my 15k Glads...and it looks like its made of bone...very cool!
Destruction Exile
White dye combo : Yellow+silver+silver+silver on a Dragon armor will give you a black gray. Worked very well and i liked it better than black.
Hylia
I tried the yellow-silver-silver-silver mix on my mesmers noble attire yesterday.
Thats what came out
Better dye it whit orange next time, it was a vaste of money...
Thats what came out
Better dye it whit orange next time, it was a vaste of money...
Imaginos
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Originally Posted by Scourgey
Because, if you mix the same colour to the same colour, it becomes a deeper colour, check out this chart: http://www.estorm.com.au/gallery/gwcolours/chart.htm
Almost every single one of these color charts that I've seen is just wrong on some combinations.
For instance my "secret" magenta/pink, which I've not seen others use, according to their chart is a brownish color. That is plain wrong. On my warrior's armor (glad, knights, & sheild) its magenta/pink not some brownish color like the chart says.
Here is the formula for that pink/magenta of mine, now go check that chart and then try it ingame on some armor. Blue+Orange.
Imaginos
For instance my "secret" magenta/pink, which I've not seen others use, according to their chart is a brownish color. That is plain wrong. On my warrior's armor (glad, knights, & sheild) its magenta/pink not some brownish color like the chart says.
Here is the formula for that pink/magenta of mine, now go check that chart and then try it ingame on some armor. Blue+Orange.
Imaginos
Murder In China
Dyes affect each armor differently.
Daemon Dremora
i wish in factions they would just make a white dye that we could buy at the traders. i hate seeing ppl in town saying oh i have the best white dye formula it works great come buy it now for the cheap price of only 1k per bottle. the part they dont tell you is they wont tell you the formula and to top it off most of the time it doesnt even work on all armor so it ends up looking like major crap on alot of armor. they just need to make a white dye and sell it at the dye trader.
b0n3
i ahve 15k gladiator armour. i used ur formula and i got an ivory whitish cream colour which i really like. i then tried another recipe... silver+dye remover.. and VUALLA !!! the same colour. u may be scaptical because the bottle looks green in colour, but when applied it gives the EXACT same colour. hope this helps people save the extra 1k ;P
Xaero Gouki Kriegor
seems like the less silver i had the more yellow it was and the 3 silvers actualy helped get the ivory color
Plushie Penguin
um.... here's a somewhat white color combo for ritualist's armors
silver+yellow+silver=vanilla icecreamish look
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silver+yellow+silver=vanilla icecreamish look
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T1Cybernetic
Something that has not been addressed is your graphics card and guildwars
settings affect the colour imensly, if i turn my settings down to the lowest
silver looks "grey" to "white" but if i have it set up all at it's highest i get a
nice bright silver,
.
Before you all go thinking you dont have the right colour mixed or it simple
doesnt work, change your graphics settings and see the results for yourself...
settings affect the colour imensly, if i turn my settings down to the lowest
silver looks "grey" to "white" but if i have it set up all at it's highest i get a
nice bright silver,
.Before you all go thinking you dont have the right colour mixed or it simple
doesnt work, change your graphics settings and see the results for yourself...
mrcake
works pretty good on ele armour
Conan The Castrater
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but having read last 2 pages it doesnt look like it.
This is pure speculation nd I just have one example to prove it but i've found adding dye remover into a concoction basically results in the base armour colour effectively acting as the dye remover portion of the overall mix.
For example if you have monks with their light tan base armour, yellow+silver+tan would give u a whitish colour.
However, the thing that made me come ot this conclusion was using the Silver+Dye Remover+Silver on a 15k ascalon warrior helm which has a base colour of gold. Applying the mix resulting in a visibly lighter gold. I believe all the S+DR+S mix does is to lighten the natural colour of your armour hence the mixed results everyone is getting.
This is pure speculation nd I just have one example to prove it but i've found adding dye remover into a concoction basically results in the base armour colour effectively acting as the dye remover portion of the overall mix.
For example if you have monks with their light tan base armour, yellow+silver+tan would give u a whitish colour.
However, the thing that made me come ot this conclusion was using the Silver+Dye Remover+Silver on a 15k ascalon warrior helm which has a base colour of gold. Applying the mix resulting in a visibly lighter gold. I believe all the S+DR+S mix does is to lighten the natural colour of your armour hence the mixed results everyone is getting.