Okay okay lol, take a breather, I know how infuriating dying can be, as I've waisted THOUSANDS of gold in trying dye combos myself lol.
Now then, WHAT exactly are you trying to dye? The armor's type?? Different Armor's have different materials, and as such, will wield different colors when applied to them. Read this thread on here about dyes.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ight=dye+chart
Now then, as for white dye itself, there is NO specific "WHITE" dye that you can make, because mixtures either have a dulled grey tint, or a yellowish tint. I repeat, NO TRUE white dye is possible, only something as close as possible.
Here's an example, of a white dye formula I have tried on my warrior's Gladiator outfit, as well as a pair of Knight's boots. The Formula I chose to use, was the all too common, Yellow+silver+silver+silver on the lower armband,hips,and knight's boots, with the other being Dye remover+silver silver+silver on the upper arm part of the gladiator outfit.
And here's what my vial looked Like for the Yellow+silver+silver+silver combo
Not too much of a difference in the color of the two, but this is deffinately NOT white dye, as it has a "dirty" looking color to it. As for other formulas of white dye..I'd have to try them and see..but otherwise, the formula you use, on a certain armor piece from whatever proffession, MAY very, hence Ranger's Leather and cloth-like material, and the warrior's Metal-like Material. And one last note, the order with which you use dyes, DOES NOT matter, as you will get the same thing every time. Just read that little link up there I provided =).
White Dye Formula
Greenfanart86
Dredogol
Well...I did mention which armor I was coloring...and that was Knight Boots... 
Anyways...yes...I knew there was no ONE universal white color. It depends on what you were coloring...
Just out of curiosity...people who say it's WHITE...did you guys do that Y+S+S+S combo an a CLOTH armor???
To Greenfanart86...thanks for that photo.
Yes...my Knight boots looks EXACTLY the same as yours...so I guess the WHITE formual does not work for Knights Armor at all, because it looks just like Dye Remover color...(waste of money).
As for your 15k Gladiator set...that "White" looks more like White Cream color. Mostly whitish...but little tint of yellow in it...
As you can see from my Avatar...she's got same 15k Gladiators...but dyed with only 1 Silver Dye. I thought that looked better because I had white hair.
WHY DID I WANT TO MAKE WHITE FOR KNIGHTS???
- Well, if you guys haven't notcied, the 15k Galdiator set with Silver is actually "whiter" than the Silver for Knights armor.
- Now I know that Knights armor cannot get any "whiter" than the normal Silver dye...but that's actually more like Metal color...not White.
Thanks for info...
Anyways...yes...I knew there was no ONE universal white color. It depends on what you were coloring...
Just out of curiosity...people who say it's WHITE...did you guys do that Y+S+S+S combo an a CLOTH armor???
To Greenfanart86...thanks for that photo.
Yes...my Knight boots looks EXACTLY the same as yours...so I guess the WHITE formual does not work for Knights Armor at all, because it looks just like Dye Remover color...(waste of money).
As for your 15k Gladiator set...that "White" looks more like White Cream color. Mostly whitish...but little tint of yellow in it...
As you can see from my Avatar...she's got same 15k Gladiators...but dyed with only 1 Silver Dye. I thought that looked better because I had white hair.
WHY DID I WANT TO MAKE WHITE FOR KNIGHTS???
- Well, if you guys haven't notcied, the 15k Galdiator set with Silver is actually "whiter" than the Silver for Knights armor.
- Now I know that Knights armor cannot get any "whiter" than the normal Silver dye...but that's actually more like Metal color...not White.
Thanks for info...
sno
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I'm sure I've spent 150k+ on dyes for different chars
Greenfanart86
Yes, after re-reading your thread, I notice now you said Knight boots specifically XD. Sorry bout' that lol. And you're welcome..I had the same unerving problem as you..because nobody posts their pictures of white dye formulas they have tried on their armor anywhere..that I can find..it seems..I actually recently had an urge to do a TRIAL of white dye formulas I've heard of for use on a gladiator's outfit..here's what I came up with that I'd like to see trial'd for anyone else interested.
1...Yellow+Silver+Silver+Silver (Already shown in this thread..not white)
2...Dye remover+Silver+Silver (Also shown, on the upper armband..not it)
3...Blue+Silver+Silver+Silver
4...Blue+Silver+Silver
5...Yellow+Dye remover+Silver+Silver
6...Silver+Dye remover+Silver+Silver
7...silver+Dye remover+Silver
8...Yellow+Silver+Silver
9...Just plain Silver
10...Black+Silver<------------------V
11...Black+Silver+Silver+Silver<-----(I think these two may be grey..)
12...Silver+Dye remover
So yeah..I've heard alot of different formulas..probably still more...
1...Yellow+Silver+Silver+Silver (Already shown in this thread..not white)
2...Dye remover+Silver+Silver (Also shown, on the upper armband..not it)
3...Blue+Silver+Silver+Silver
4...Blue+Silver+Silver
5...Yellow+Dye remover+Silver+Silver
6...Silver+Dye remover+Silver+Silver
7...silver+Dye remover+Silver
8...Yellow+Silver+Silver
9...Just plain Silver
10...Black+Silver<------------------V
11...Black+Silver+Silver+Silver<-----(I think these two may be grey..)
12...Silver+Dye remover
So yeah..I've heard alot of different formulas..probably still more...
SnipiousMax
I used White dye on my Glad's Armor, and Knights boots. I just use Yellow + Silver+ Silver. It turned out exactly like the Yellow + silver + silver + silver formula. It comes out looking like Ivory. Its really cool, its kinda bone colored armor. I hear it doesn't turn out on necro armor though. And the colors match remarkable well considering that my knights boots have always been a little off.
Ju_Smurph
... the colour of the aromour originally does effect the mix... so deal with it. Expirement. But i will tell you a secret, It is 100% impossible to get white... any one that knows a bit about colours can tell you this.
...(white is not a colour ;o) )
...(white is not a colour ;o) )
Hockster
It does not matter what order the dyes are mixed. The end result is exactly the same.
Rilder
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Originally Posted by Hockster
It does not matter what order the dyes are mixed. The end result is exactly the same.
Not True exactly, Purple+Blue then adding a Red is gonnna be different from Red+Purple then adding blue
Hockster
All my 3 and 4 dye mixes ended up the same no matter what order the dyes were added.
Ure Maker
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Originally Posted by Ju_Smurph
(white is not a colour ;o) )
its a SHADE >.<
Raeven1
Must have Combo.....
Lady Lozza
White looks rather good on monks collector's. I've seen someone already posted theirs but it looked a touch grey, so I'm suspecting they used one more silver than I did. Anyhow my combo was y+s+s+s.
As for the debate over whether white is a colour or not you can look at it this way: white can be seen as ALL COLOURS, or NO COLOURS, depending on whether you are looking at it in an additive or subtractive light.
As for the debate over whether white is a colour or not you can look at it this way: white can be seen as ALL COLOURS, or NO COLOURS, depending on whether you are looking at it in an additive or subtractive light.
AlienFromBeyond
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Originally Posted by Rilder
Not True exactly, Purple+Blue then adding a Red is gonnna be different from Red+Purple then adding blue
No... those would all end up being the same. The times when it's different is say, the difference between Red + Purple + Yellow + Green and Mixed Red/Purple + Mixed Yellow/Green.
I think.
I think.
Faer
Fooled around with all sorts of different combinations that are posted in this thread and always came up with something that I didn't really like. After wasting about 27 Silver Dyes, I finally found the formula that made my armor look white!
Want to know what it was?
A stupid Silver Dye.
Yep. Silver Dye by itself makes Pyromancer armor look white. And to think I wasted somewhere around 17.5k on this project...
Want to know what it was?
A stupid Silver Dye.
Yep. Silver Dye by itself makes Pyromancer armor look white. And to think I wasted somewhere around 17.5k on this project...
Count to Potato
Well just to tell you if you mix orange and yellow together for elementalist its quick gold dye at its cheepest
Masseur
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Originally Posted by Ure Maker
its a SHADE >.<
Actually, it's not a shade, it's the absence of color. It's impossible to use any "color" to make something that is the absence of color. I think that is what they were pointing out.
thenewa2x
This 1Y+3S formula is good enough for me. Here's a pic with my monk with ivory die.
Lady Lozza
Masseur - only in subtractive palettes is white the absence of colour. In an additive palette and in physics white is actually a combination of ALL colours.
BTW thenewa, you didn't include the pic.
BTW thenewa, you didn't include the pic.
shoapy
After reading this threads IMHO we can only get Ivory White as the best white that we can produce, right? One question, just how many dyes we can combine for a single set?
Ure Maker
with the demand of white i can only think Anet will incorporate it in factions, but at prices of black dye (no prob for ma got loads of cash) i could think even more for it when factions is released caus every1 is trying to get that lucritive gloat "i got perfect white" when infact u cant really, so if Anet puts it in Factions i can c it goin for alot to begin with
Charqus
Well alll the dye coulors are colours of white light so mix em all together and wont ya get white?
I cnat remember if black is tho :P
I cnat remember if black is tho :P
pegasux
well i finally broke down and tried the formula on my 15k geomancer armor and boy is it waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy off white...lol. I looks more like a gold dye, but still cool. anyone have success at dying 15k geo armor? Would adding like 4 or 5 silvers instead of 3 make it lighter?
Cecil Barracks
Looks pretty white to me...
S E V E R
Pretty... must look... but not touch...
thenewa2x
@Lady Lozza: Yeah, it took a long time to upload. Figured something went wrong.
Lady Lozza
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Originally Posted by pegasux
well i finally broke down and tried the formula on my 15k geomancer armor and boy is it waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy off white...lol. I looks more like a gold dye, but still cool. anyone have success at dying 15k geo armor? Would adding like 4 or 5 silvers instead of 3 make it lighter?
The problem is that those of us, and there are a number of us around, who are experiementing with dye still do not fully understand how the base colour of the armour influences the resulting colour. Just when we think we have a hand on it we try something just a little more complex and the results are not what we expect.
We are working on it though. We will let you know if, or when, we manage to come up with something useful.
We are working on it though. We will let you know if, or when, we manage to come up with something useful.
optical
best white i've seen was yellow + silver + silver + dye remover. Don't use it on you're warrior or your necro...it won't dye properly. Works best for Monks and Eles...I've seen it on a Ranger 15K Druid Armor and it's ok, not the best.
BTW Masseur, White is not the absence of color...black is the absence of color. White is the achromatic color of maximum lightness...
Lady...if you've done any work with Alpah Layers in photoshop or paintshop pro then the base color of armor works very much like a base layer would.
BTW Masseur, White is not the absence of color...black is the absence of color. White is the achromatic color of maximum lightness...
Lady...if you've done any work with Alpah Layers in photoshop or paintshop pro then the base color of armor works very much like a base layer would.
Diablo???
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Originally Posted by optical
BTW Masseur, White is not the absence of color...black is the absence of color. White is the achromatic color of maximum lightness...
Only in the sense of additive color is that true, Color that results from adding light energy is called additive color. Color that results when an object subtracts light energy is called subtractive color, and those yield black when all colors are combined. In subtractive sense (not dealing with light), Black is the combination of all color, and and white is the absense of (subtractive) colors.
These RGB additive colors are a part of the spectrum
These Cyan Yellow Magenta subtractive colors are part of the processed spectrum.
I suppose its a conundrum to figure out whether the "dyes" we deal with are additive or subtractive... in better words, we're dealing with additive colors pretending to be subtractive. As solid oil and paint in reality are subtractive colors, but when we see them on your monitor (light projections), they are techinically additive colors... it all depends how you see it.
These RGB additive colors are a part of the spectrum
These Cyan Yellow Magenta subtractive colors are part of the processed spectrum.
I suppose its a conundrum to figure out whether the "dyes" we deal with are additive or subtractive... in better words, we're dealing with additive colors pretending to be subtractive. As solid oil and paint in reality are subtractive colors, but when we see them on your monitor (light projections), they are techinically additive colors... it all depends how you see it.
optical
Diablo...thank you. I did take Color Theory in college. Subtractive colors don't occur naturally....AND far more importantly a computer screen can't display subtractive colors. Computer monitors display additive color..the colors are formed by passing light through Diode or a tube. LCD monitors work by blocking light(sorta...keep reading). By sandwiching a solution of TN liquid crystals between two perpendicularly aligned panes of polarized glass, it becomes possible to manipulate the intensity of light as it passes through this crystalline matrix and out the glass panel at the other end. Depending on the voltage of the electrical charge running through them, liquid crystals will untwist so that the intensity of light able to pass through the second polarized pane is affected. Basically, these displays can switch between light states (where the liquid crystals are fully twisted) and dark states (where the liquid crystals are fully untwisted), or somewhere along the gray scale in between. Cathode Ray Tubes work in the same theory but execute much differently. Basic principles still apply though.
as you can probably guess all computer applications are displayed using additive colors and using an RGB color scale. CMYK color scales are faked using a lengthy algorithm. They aren't true.
the short of the lesson: White is maximum lightness and black is the absence of color.
as you can probably guess all computer applications are displayed using additive colors and using an RGB color scale. CMYK color scales are faked using a lengthy algorithm. They aren't true.
the short of the lesson: White is maximum lightness and black is the absence of color.
white wolfgang
We obviously cannot get pure wight in this game. So how do we get close? Heres were I became confused!
I went to Dye Trader and tried white dye(YSSS) and it looked silver. so i looked for a nicer color so i mixed R S S and got the same thing....then i tried PSS....then BSS.....then S. I died different peices of my armour these colors...but can you ttell wich ones wich?
Im confused
I went to Dye Trader and tried white dye(YSSS) and it looked silver. so i looked for a nicer color so i mixed R S S and got the same thing....then i tried PSS....then BSS.....then S. I died different peices of my armour these colors...but can you ttell wich ones wich?
Im confused
Konrow
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Originally Posted by white wolfgang
We obviously cannot get pure wight in this game. So how do we get close? Heres were I became confused!
I went to Dye Trader and tried white dye(YSSS) and it looked silver. so i looked for a nicer color so i mixed R S S and got the same thing....then i tried PSS....then BSS.....then S. I died different peices of my armour these colors...but can you ttell wich ones wich?
Im confused
exactly how were you mixing? mixing consists of clicking dye and putting it onto another dye not onto the same armor as the other dye. it looks like wat you did was dye the armor and then dye it agin hoping for a mix, but thats not how it works.
I went to Dye Trader and tried white dye(YSSS) and it looked silver. so i looked for a nicer color so i mixed R S S and got the same thing....then i tried PSS....then BSS.....then S. I died different peices of my armour these colors...but can you ttell wich ones wich?
Im confused
white wolfgang
I know how to mix...but with this armor(seems to be fissure cuz pants=Ysss and gloves=S) 2 silver dyes seem to negate the third color....My luck cuz i was looking for a very pale red but instead i got my shirt color.....Yes I know how to mix... You click one dye and then click on to the next Duh!
Poup_owns_you
i did silver dye + the red necro armor ( dye remover ) and it made... Pink! a very nice shiny pink
lg5000
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Originally Posted by white wolfgang
We obviously cannot get pure wight in this game. So how do we get close? Heres were I became confused!
I went to Dye Trader and tried white dye(YSSS) and it looked silver. so i looked for a nicer color so i mixed R S S and got the same thing....then i tried PSS....then BSS.....then S. I died different peices of my armour these colors...but can you ttell wich ones wich?
Im confused
The top is the purple + silver.. gloves are blue + silver.. I'm guessing the pants are just silver. Mesmer armor is just REALLY hard to dye..
I went to Dye Trader and tried white dye(YSSS) and it looked silver. so i looked for a nicer color so i mixed R S S and got the same thing....then i tried PSS....then BSS.....then S. I died different peices of my armour these colors...but can you ttell wich ones wich?
Im confused
brybry
can sum1 post a SS on a "white" 15k glads that was dyed after its original color.
brybry
nvm i looked at the posts be4 this
pegasux
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Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
The problem is that those of us, and there are a number of us around, who are experiementing with dye still do not fully understand how the base colour of the armour influences the resulting colour. Just when we think we have a hand on it we try something just a little more complex and the results are not what we expect.
We are working on it though. We will let you know if, or when, we manage to come up with something useful. Thanks lady =). question. If I use dye remover on my white/gold armor now will it take all of the dye off including some of the base color?
We are working on it though. We will let you know if, or when, we manage to come up with something useful. Thanks lady =). question. If I use dye remover on my white/gold armor now will it take all of the dye off including some of the base color?
Tigris Of Gaul
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Originally Posted by Raeven1
This is great... has anyone been able to duplicate it?
Misz_Piggie
maybe if i do all the colors, maybe ill get black 
FireMountain
Can someone tell me why they won't make a white dye or heck don't call it dye call it bleach.
As for mixing they can follow true color scales and program that in, don't know if this would mess with their reflections of color and shaddowing. Perhaps reflections off of white are difficult I don't know.
Always got me that they didn't have white in this game. Black really doesn't work all that well don't see why it's so valuable.
As for mixing they can follow true color scales and program that in, don't know if this would mess with their reflections of color and shaddowing. Perhaps reflections off of white are difficult I don't know.
Always got me that they didn't have white in this game. Black really doesn't work all that well don't see why it's so valuable.