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Originally Posted by OneArmedScissor
YAY FOR THE ASSASSIN CLASS! Geez! Definitely the most original class to date
 Javelin/Pike/Pole Arm/Spear class would be way better. |
CONFIRMED 1st New Class Information from Ch. 2: The Assassin
unienaule
Vilaptca
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Originally Posted by OneArmedScissor
YAY FOR THE ASSASSIN CLASS! Geez! Definitely the most original class to date
Javelin/Pike/Pole Arm/Spear class would be way better. |
BigTru
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Originally Posted by OneArmedScissor
YAY FOR THE ASSASSIN CLASS! Geez! Definitely the most original class to date
Javelin/Pike/Pole Arm/Spear class would be way better. |
MSecorsky
Just because it's called an assassin class doesn't mean it's the Diablo assassin, or any other generic assassin/ninja thingie. Let's see what it actually is before we criticise it for being what it is without knowing what it is.
Damn, that cost me a few brain cells.
Consider rangers... in my limited gaming experience, the whole "traps" thing is new for a ranger/archer type of character. Sure, rangers abound in many games, but how many trapper builds? Or interrupters, for that matter?
Keep your pantyhose on until it's actually time to poop.
Damn, that cost me a few brain cells.
Consider rangers... in my limited gaming experience, the whole "traps" thing is new for a ranger/archer type of character. Sure, rangers abound in many games, but how many trapper builds? Or interrupters, for that matter?
Keep your pantyhose on until it's actually time to poop.
Phades
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Originally Posted by OneArmedScissor
YAY FOR THE ASSASSIN CLASS! Geez! Definitely the most original class to date
Javelin/Pike/Pole Arm/Spear class would be way better. |
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Originally Posted by MSecorsky
Just because it's called an assassin class doesn't mean it's the Diablo assassin, or any other generic assassin/ninja thingie. Let's see what it actually is before we criticise it for being what it is without knowing what it is.
Damn, that cost me a few brain cells. Consider rangers... in my limited gaming experience, the whole "traps" thing is new for a ranger/archer type of character. Sure, rangers abound in many games, but how many trapper builds? Or interrupters, for that matter? Keep your pantyhose on until it's actually time to poop. |
Eet GnomeSmasher
Bottom line is that there's really nothing new in a fantasy sword and sorcery type setting... You pretty much have to stick to a particular formula otherwise it's just not a traditional "D&D" type game. If you want originality, stick to some different type of genres.
I just find it silly that people are getting mad at how assassins arent original in a traditional fantasy game setting...that's like complaining how there's no new music when you're listening to an oldies station.
I just find it silly that people are getting mad at how assassins arent original in a traditional fantasy game setting...that's like complaining how there's no new music when you're listening to an oldies station.
Takeko Nakano
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Originally Posted by Man With No Name
Sounds like a bad idea to me. Guild Wars already has all the basic classes covered -- so what will the "Assassin" be..??
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Fast-ish attacks
Some kind of "dodge"
Sneaking skills
Ability to do lots of criticals
Dual weilding
Less armour/no shields
Less damage-dealing per hit normally
Anything else? Sorry if I've copied anything given that I've dropped in on this discussion so late.
Xia
If it just hits things it's a copy of a warrior.
IF it jsut throws things it's acopy of a ranger.
IT has to be original.
Stealth is stupid.
It should be like the mesmer/encro mix of melee.. Fast attacking, evasion, teleporting.
Hopefully they give it a tree of dart attacks and one of melee. I think we all expect claws and dual weilding so I don't see how they can not have htem..
Looking at the pictures maybe your armor will improve ranged rdamge and if you want to melee you can use a different sort of armor.
You all have to keep in mind if it attacks fast and does high damge then stuff like conjure, strengh of honor, etc could highly overpower it. It needs to have low daamge at the start if it attacks faster.
IF it jsut throws things it's acopy of a ranger.
IT has to be original.
Stealth is stupid.
It should be like the mesmer/encro mix of melee.. Fast attacking, evasion, teleporting.
Hopefully they give it a tree of dart attacks and one of melee. I think we all expect claws and dual weilding so I don't see how they can not have htem..
Looking at the pictures maybe your armor will improve ranged rdamge and if you want to melee you can use a different sort of armor.
You all have to keep in mind if it attacks fast and does high damge then stuff like conjure, strengh of honor, etc could highly overpower it. It needs to have low daamge at the start if it attacks faster.
Inferno149870
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Originally Posted by OneArmedScissor
YAY FOR THE ASSASSIN CLASS! Geez! Definitely the most original class to date
Javelin/Pike/Pole Arm/Spear class would be way better. |
Evil Hypnotist
I really hope they aren't gonna go with an assassin, I was bored beyond belief with Diablo's version and I can't think why this would be any different. I would like to see another physical type class though, theres already 4 types of caster in GW
Maxiemonster
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Originally Posted by Evil Hypnotist
I really hope they aren't gonna go with an assassin, I was bored beyond belief with Diablo's version and I can't think why this would be any different. I would like to see another physical type class though, theres already 4 types of caster in GW
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Though, I want to know the other classes (if there are any..) too, maybe one of those is even better (probably not though).
I CAN'T WAIT!
unienaule
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Originally Posted by Evil Hypnotist
I really hope they aren't gonna go with an assassin, I was bored beyond belief with Diablo's version and I can't think why this would be any different. I would like to see another physical type class though, theres already 4 types of caster in GW
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Sir Skullcrasher
I want charrs for another profession.. or a summoners who can create enemies or monsters and get undead minions.
Eet GnomeSmasher
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Originally Posted by Evil Hypnotist
I really hope they aren't gonna go with an assassin
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Red Sonya
Besides other classes I would like some other races like GNOMES!! Dang it. There is nothing funnier to watch that a GNOME WARRIOR haha EQ had the best I think. Well until they screwed up the graphics of them. The old style gnome was the best looking ones, the updated graphic ones looked like crap.
Also I should be playing a lvl 20 assassin 2ndary the very first day. The place in the desert lets you change professions, so, they are going to have to add assassins there as well.
Also I should be playing a lvl 20 assassin 2ndary the very first day. The place in the desert lets you change professions, so, they are going to have to add assassins there as well.
knock kneed knobby
I hate to naysay but i reckon there gonna noob up gw if they make the assasin too good - which they probably will...
the likely hood is that its gonna have some stupid moves like one hit kill or invisibilty... damnit.
on second thought arenanet have been pretty good in balancing out the profesions (exept noob faced warrior monks and stupidly frail elementalists)
I think (because i am more important that you all (of course)) is that they should create a whole new GAME where you are the charr, and then you could fight the people on guild wars!!!!
.....well i'd buy it
it would be AWESOME, exept thed have to tart up charr graphics and somehow make a sexy female charr option for more appeal :s
( that is a sexo-bestiality confused emoticon, shocking that noone has created one however )
the likely hood is that its gonna have some stupid moves like one hit kill or invisibilty... damnit.
on second thought arenanet have been pretty good in balancing out the profesions (exept noob faced warrior monks and stupidly frail elementalists)
I think (because i am more important that you all (of course)) is that they should create a whole new GAME where you are the charr, and then you could fight the people on guild wars!!!!
.....well i'd buy it
it would be AWESOME, exept thed have to tart up charr graphics and somehow make a sexy female charr option for more appeal :s
( that is a sexo-bestiality confused emoticon, shocking that noone has created one however )
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Red Sonya
Also I should be playing a lvl 20 assassin 2ndary the very first day. The place in the desert lets you change professions, so, they are going to have to add assassins there as well.
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I can't see them adding a NPC to the Desert, they'll have a whole new area for that.
Phades
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Not necessarily... there will probably be another place in Cantha for that.
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That would be akin to giving out the expansion content for free. Its going to be in an area within the expansion without a doubt. I wouldnt be surprised if you had to unlock the profession before you could use it either.
Guardian of the Light
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Originally Posted by Phades
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That would be akin to giving out the expansion content for free. Its going to be in an area within the expansion without a doubt. I wouldnt be surprised if you had to unlock the profession before you could use it either. |
"You have unlocked the ASSASSIN!"
MoldyRiceFrenzy
lol wow
knock kneed knobby
where do you reckon they will put the assasin trainers?
i thought about that place miles away from anything, where aidan the ranger trainer is near with all those bloody spiders.
the thingymo said the assasin came from a trade town and that town looks pretty damn tradey to me
i thought about that place miles away from anything, where aidan the ranger trainer is near with all those bloody spiders.
the thingymo said the assasin came from a trade town and that town looks pretty damn tradey to me
The Primeval King
AHHHHHHHHHHH! I'm sick of assasins! They are EVERYWHERE! Why doesn't arena net make up a class? I think that a Summoner class would be nice, even though that has been somewhat done before.
I think it would be pretty funny if the new class was nothing like an assasin. Then Anet could finally say, 'Gotcha Noobs!'
I think it would be pretty funny if the new class was nothing like an assasin. Then Anet could finally say, 'Gotcha Noobs!'
Phades
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Originally Posted by The Primeval King
Why doesn't arena net make up a class? I think that a Summoner class would be nice, even though that has been somewhat done before.
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The idea is to create something that would function differently than what exists already. There is not much point in re-creating something that already exists within the game already. There is a melee character, there is a wilderness/archer character, there is a "magician", there is a manipulator (mesmer), there is a necromancer, there is a healer (monk). The only thing that is missing is something that mimics enemies (shape shifter), and a character designed around stealth and finesse (assasin). They could have just as easily called it a thief or a rouge instead of an assasin. In the end does it really matter?
Eet GnomeSmasher
No matter what class ANET comes out with there will ALWAYS be whiners and complainers. "Waaaa this is so unoriginal. Waaaaa this is so lame. Waaaa it's overpowered/underpowered"
ratatass
Speculations, speculations...
what the heck..I'll do it too
Dual wield is a must!
Armor must be feeble....
Stances, is a must, better than ranger, better than warrior...
Conditions...will probably be the same as any other , but they will add one that is more gravely...heheh
Another class they will implemement ??
They will for sure copy WOW. Why ? Now thats success. If u cant do as well as your competitor copy him and do well.
There will be a dwarf / Char class for sure. The renegade Char champion....oh what a story line....IT WILL HAPPEN!
Just wait and see...
or Jeff Strain is no friend of mine...
he he
Ratatass
what the heck..I'll do it too
Dual wield is a must!
Armor must be feeble....
Stances, is a must, better than ranger, better than warrior...
Conditions...will probably be the same as any other , but they will add one that is more gravely...heheh
Another class they will implemement ??
They will for sure copy WOW. Why ? Now thats success. If u cant do as well as your competitor copy him and do well.
There will be a dwarf / Char class for sure. The renegade Char champion....oh what a story line....IT WILL HAPPEN!
Just wait and see...
or Jeff Strain is no friend of mine...
he he
Ratatass
H2SO4
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Originally Posted by Sekkira
I don't get it though. You mention assassin in an RPG and people go "OMG A NINJA". Ninjas aren't the only assassin in existance. There are plenty of other assassins varying from each culture.
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I'd be an assassin (and hence *must* be a ninja) with a .303 rifle from a rooftop...
An assassin by definitionis someone who kills people for money.
But the name generally gives illusions of more 'class' and 'finess' that a hitman
Showtime
assassin from the word hashish. hassassin's were the secret islamic order that smoked dope as a reward for killing and risking their lives.
D2 added assassins with dual claws in their 1st and only expansion. maybe gw will also throw in barbarians with lances and whirlwind moves.
D2 added assassins with dual claws in their 1st and only expansion. maybe gw will also throw in barbarians with lances and whirlwind moves.
I pwnd U
i heard from a very reilable source taht the assassin character is not all its cracked up to be. it wont be the character everyone is talking a/b once chap 2 is released. apparently the unknown character is the shizz
menelik_seth
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Originally Posted by Showtime
assassin from the word hashish. hassassin's were the secret islamic order that smoked dope as a reward for killing and risking their lives.
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And the Hassasin's were Middle Eastern... but saying they were an "Islamic Order" is untrue... (factoid: The largets Muslim community is NOT arab; majority of Muslims world wide do NOT speak Arabic)
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assasin)
Anwyays, just doin my bit to keep the record straight. It's bad enough people think we are all terrorists out to kill ppl; last thing we need is for gamers to think we are all highly trained assassins to
Anyways its an interesting lil teaser... can't wait to try it out. I just hope there is a tie in with the current game so that it melds together some how; cuz I dont see myself finishing this one in time lol
"Finishing" i.e. ascending all 4 characters, and pimpin' em out with fissure armor lol
Hiryu
hm... maybe the unknown's some sort of Summoner...
Summon Charr Warlock
Enchantment Spell
25e, 5s casting time, 60s recharge time
Summon a level 1-15 Charr Warlock with 100-300HP. Charr Warlock randomly casts: Heal Area, Fire Storm, Phoenix, and Lava Font. This summon is dissolved after 10-60s.
Summon Black Wraith
Elite Enchantment Spell
25e, 5s casting time, 60s recharge time
Summon a level 1-24 Black Wraith with 50-240HP. Charr Warlock randomly uses: Bestial Pounce, Scavenger's Strike, Feral Strike, Brutal Strike, Call of Haste, and Maiming Blow. This summon is dissolved after 10-60s.
hmm....
Summon Charr Warlock
Enchantment Spell
25e, 5s casting time, 60s recharge time
Summon a level 1-15 Charr Warlock with 100-300HP. Charr Warlock randomly casts: Heal Area, Fire Storm, Phoenix, and Lava Font. This summon is dissolved after 10-60s.
Summon Black Wraith
Elite Enchantment Spell
25e, 5s casting time, 60s recharge time
Summon a level 1-24 Black Wraith with 50-240HP. Charr Warlock randomly uses: Bestial Pounce, Scavenger's Strike, Feral Strike, Brutal Strike, Call of Haste, and Maiming Blow. This summon is dissolved after 10-60s.
hmm....
freddo
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Originally Posted by menelik_seth
OT but yes I read the Dan Brown book 'Angels and Deamons'... very good book (reading 'Deception Point' now). I noted Dan Brown never mentioned the Hassasin's idioligy, and never used the term 'Muslim' to describe the character.
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i read one book of him (the famous da vinci code) and i certainly wont do it again
i dont believe in god, so my critic is not influenced by my religion
but, this guy is not talkink about historical facts, he does not really know how to write a book, his story is quiet boring... but he's surely the best buisness man of the last 10 years
Shadow Sword Strike
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Originally Posted by Man With No Name
Sounds like a bad idea to me. Guild Wars already has all the basic classes covered -- so what will the "Assassin" be..??
Some kind of Warrior "Elite" class..?? ( aka LoD or NwN Expansions ) Will the introduction of the "Assassin" make the Warrior class redundant..?? I can already make an "Assassin"-type character with the beauty of the dual-class system -- why type-class it..?? I'm gonna remain sceptical |
H2SO4
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hum... I will not risk me taking Dan Brown for an example...
i read one book of him (the famous da vinci code) and i certainly wont do it again i dont believe in god, so my critic is not influenced by my religion but, this guy is not talkink about historical facts, he does not really know how to write a book, his story is quiet boring... but he's surely the best buisness man of the last 10 years |
lol
If duel wielding was a unique attribute... 0-6 reduces your penalties, 7-8 is normal and form 9+ you get a bonus to defence or attack
Simply because if your ambidextrious its not as big a deal. However since most of us arent TRAINING comes into it. And a warrior who is used to fighting 1 weapon encounters probels with a duel weilding foe...
Duel Weilding
Finess (adds to accuracy of thrown weapons)
Shadow Magic Techniques (like dodge or teleport to living enemy)
Assassin Equipment (smoke bombs. poison darts etc)
assassin sohul have lo armour MAX of 60
menelik_seth
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Originally Posted by Hiryu
hm... maybe the unknown's some sort of Summoner...
Summon Charr Warlock Enchantment Spell 25e, 5s casting time, 60s recharge time Summon a level 1-15 Charr Warlock with 100-300HP. Charr Warlock randomly casts: Heal Area, Fire Storm, Phoenix, and Lava Font. This summon is dissolved after 10-60s. Summon Black Wraith Elite Enchantment Spell 25e, 5s casting time, 60s recharge time Summon a level 1-24 Black Wraith with 50-240HP. Charr Warlock randomly uses: Bestial Pounce, Scavenger's Strike, Feral Strike, Brutal Strike, Call of Haste, and Maiming Blow. This summon is dissolved after 10-60s. hmm.... |
It could be interesting. I think they need to redevelop the pet system first tho, before they add any other types of "pets"
For example, how is it that I can command henchies to attack, without myself attacking: "shift+ctrl+space" to target, henchies attack ur target.... But this doesn't work on my pet? The pet will only attack when u actually attack, and is usually slow in responding.
The devs could tighten this behavour up a bit more...
Y'know I never played any other MMO before GW; have they done this class before:
A Druid: A character that uses his natural surroundings to his advantage.
This character's skillset is strongly tied to his environment; he cannot use winter skills in the Desert, for example. Or use Jungle skills in Shiverpeaks.
His skills mostly consist of Nature Rituals, Spirits. Causing conditions that can bring an advantage to his teammates, and disadvantage to the opposing team. Mostly a supporting character; not meant for solo farming.
The Druid can also shapeshift for a short period; in this form he cannot cast any spells... but it's the only form where he can deal direct damage. The form he takes is also environmentally dictated...
Markaedw
looks like a mes ranger concetrating wilderness skills
Jaster83
i got to page 2 before i stopped reading, so some of these ideas may already be in there...
there's easy fixes to most of the problems you guys have w/ the class:
Stealth mode - stance - smaller aggro bubble and disappear from non-ally radar
that would make it effective in pvp and pve
duel weilding... an assassin needs to have this, that's just a duh thing to me, but i'm a d2 lod vet, so... a lot of the ideas i'll have will be spinoffs of that (and the creators of AN were guys that worked on the diablo titles, so they've prolly played a lot of d2 as well)
overall it will be a mix between warrior and ranger i'd think, not as good at tanking as warrior, but better than ranger, uses melee most of the time but with several specialized skills for distance
some thoughts on distance skills that would work well:
knife throw, low dmg, causes bleeding
or knife throw, causes crippling
ya know, crap like that
maybe throw a few traps in there, nothing like the lightning traps in d2, but something that wouldn't be used by a ranger, using chemicals or something
stances that work with duel weilding, like for 10 seconds you have 75% chance to block, and of those blocked 50% chance to cause bleeding or crippling or something
i'd think the class specific attribute would be stealth, that way if you want to be able to have powerful stealth skills you've gotta have assassin as primary
make cross class skills so that if you have ranger as secondary you can have new bow skills
there's just a ton of stuff that they could do to make this a kickass class that doesn't make anything redundant
--Jaster
there's easy fixes to most of the problems you guys have w/ the class:
Stealth mode - stance - smaller aggro bubble and disappear from non-ally radar
that would make it effective in pvp and pve
duel weilding... an assassin needs to have this, that's just a duh thing to me, but i'm a d2 lod vet, so... a lot of the ideas i'll have will be spinoffs of that (and the creators of AN were guys that worked on the diablo titles, so they've prolly played a lot of d2 as well)
overall it will be a mix between warrior and ranger i'd think, not as good at tanking as warrior, but better than ranger, uses melee most of the time but with several specialized skills for distance
some thoughts on distance skills that would work well:
knife throw, low dmg, causes bleeding
or knife throw, causes crippling
ya know, crap like that
maybe throw a few traps in there, nothing like the lightning traps in d2, but something that wouldn't be used by a ranger, using chemicals or something
stances that work with duel weilding, like for 10 seconds you have 75% chance to block, and of those blocked 50% chance to cause bleeding or crippling or something
i'd think the class specific attribute would be stealth, that way if you want to be able to have powerful stealth skills you've gotta have assassin as primary
make cross class skills so that if you have ranger as secondary you can have new bow skills
there's just a ton of stuff that they could do to make this a kickass class that doesn't make anything redundant
--Jaster
Nymph of Meliai
Jaster has it spot on for the new class imho but we will have to wait until the weekend to see.
As for copying WoW? I would sooner it copied Never Winter Nights
As for copying WoW? I would sooner it copied Never Winter Nights