THE IDEA that will Save the Game - (Titles)

actionjack

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

It might be a bit bold, but I do feel that this would greatly help improve the game, and that idea is TITLE. (weither the game need to be save or not is up for another debate)

Title would work like this. It will be a title or short phrase that appear above (or under) your character's name, and most likly in differnt color. You must earn the title, when certain conditions are meet. There will be many title names you can earn, some hidden, some given. Also will include a Title Menu, where you can choose and pick which of your earned title you want to display, as well as option to turn on or off in veiwing other peoples title.

Since there are so many possible titles, I will just write up some examples/idea for it to get the idea cross.

"Pyromancer"
When you have gotten 80% of fire attribute skills.

"Super Pytromancer"
When you have gotten all of fire attribute skills.
(other similar title would go with other attributes.)

"Hero"
When you have complet all missions.

"Legend"
When you have complet all mission and side missions.

"Charr Slayer"
When you have killed 500 or more Charrs.

"Tycon"
Purchase with 10k gold.

"___ Barehander"
Finish a (Mission or Quest) with just Barehand.

"___ Speeder"
Finish a (Mission or Quest) in a very short time.

"___ Lone Ranger"
Finish a (Mission or Quest) with just one man.
(the (Mission or Quest) can be specific to just one a certain mission or quest, existing or new)

"Treasure Hunter"
When you have 10+ Green item in your Inventory.

"Dye Merchant"
When you have 50+ dye on you.

"100 Man Slayer"
when you kill 100 player in Arean.

"Arena Champ"
When you win X amount of game in Arean.

"Arena Legend"
When you straight win 100 games in Arean.

" _____ Guild Master"
You are the Master of _____ Guild.

"Novice" (or "Noob")
when your play time is less than 5 hour
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There can be lot more, especially when adding new quest or mission that have title for rewards and "benchmark" conditions to meet.

And how do you know how to get those titles? Some are hinted by NPC, or as rewards for quest, but many will be "hidden", where you have to ask other to find out.

To Clearfy, the title only work as cosmetic, and won't give you any special bonus.

Another MMO, Mobingu (i think that was the name), has this system too, and have many fun titles that you can earn. (like "10 Year old Barehand Bear slayer" or something like that)

One problem that I see might be that the server would need to do more data tracking for each character (like a data sheet that track all your kills, time, etc), but overall , should be technological do-ible.

So why would this be saving the game? My reason is that it give player, especially the hardcore ones, more stuff to earn, and since it is just cosmetic, keeping the balance in still. This, like the 15k or 75k armor, is more for a Boast factor than anything, yet will still keep them attracted, as well as adding more re-playiblity to the game. Having more "rewards" that player want is very important, especially for GW, since it is very capped.

Well, hope the dev might read this and consider the possiblities of adding it to the game. If you like the idea, please give it support. Feed back and comments are welcome.

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A 2nd evolution of that... Stats Menu and Badges
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3016694

Shukrut

Shukrut

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Army Of Lightness [AoL]

W/Me

LOL, sounds like a boring HR presentation I had yesterday...

Shimus DarkRaven

Shimus DarkRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Titusville, PA <nowhere>

KOD <Knights of the Dragonrose><Guild Officer>

W/Mo

Vanity is always good, and so is this idea. I always would like to see, "Shimus Darkraven, Bane of the Charr" =) lol

/Signed.

--The Shim

jesh

jesh

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, CA

Penguin Village

Mo/

I like the idea too, good job thinking it up.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

I like the title idea if players have the choice to reject titles.

Diablo II had a forced title system and all the "highest" titles were horrible. They had titles like "Slayer". And I think the highest was "Patriarch". If you beat all levels of the game you had that title added to your name even if you didn't want it. I don't wanna be called "Patriarch" --- that's lame!

The problem with any forced title system is that many of the titles are bound to be lame, and players should not be punished by having lame titles thrown on them against their will.

Calling all rank 9 players (who want the title) "King" or "Queen" or something would be great though.

actionjack

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

I am not sure why people always not read the part about title been selectible/togglible, with option to choose what title you want to display. (as well as if you want to read other's title or not)

might be display somewhat like this

<Dragon Slayer>
Chibi Chi (CoR)

NatalieD

NatalieD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Been playing City of Heroes, have we?

Symeon

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

'tis a fairly good idea, I believe there has been something like this in other games, can't remember which.
/sign in basic agreement

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

ArenaNet like giving symbolic rewards and other non-tradeable eye candy...so i think they may approve too.

/sIgNeD

Monseir

Monseir

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

IM da shiznit

The Shiznitz

W/Mo

I wanna see. Monseir -Level 3 and 4000 hours? WTF have you been doing?-
/signed

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

So it's a form of optional grind for those who want it and it also helps with the customisation of characters to make them more unique!
It's a little like the forum titles.

I like it.

/SiGnEd. [again]

[Edit, should have edited my last post, lol]

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

I fear in-game harrasment.
'you have dyes, give me dyes'
'you have money, please give money'
'you are experienced, how do I ...'
also 'pyromancer and 'superpyromancer' tend to give a peckingorder, while the 'pyromancer' could have a far more logical skillset then the 'superpyromancer'.

i'm conservative on this, so unless there are some refinements, I will not sign this.

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Makkert
I fear in-game harrasment.
'you have dyes, give me dyes'
'you have money, please give money'
'you are experienced, how do I ...'
also 'pyromancer and 'superpyromancer' tend to give a peckingorder, while the 'pyromancer' could have a far more logical skillset then the 'superpyromancer'.

i'm conservative on this, so unless there are some refinements, I will not sign this.
Ah yes Makkert, you do have a valid point.

There may be the creation of a "show me your rank" crowd in PvE

Bob - "Level 3 warrior LFG"
Bill - "Omg u noob you aren't a dye collector get lost u get pwnzoored by Charr."

Perishiko ReLLiK

Perishiko ReLLiK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Divine Guardians of the Soul (Soul)

Mo/E

While it's a nice idea that i wouldn't mind seeing. I really don't think this game needs any "saving" though.

Mesmerized

Mesmerized

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Order of the Temple [Temp]

Mo/

Good idea, but what about overlapping? Or an elementalist with all skills unlocked?

*takes a deep breath*

Legendary Superpyrohydroaerogeomancer Treasure Hunter of Speedy Charrslaying Alastar Spellsinger.

*pants*

ANYWAYS, if there could be some basis or maybe just a /pverank that will list them all in a humorous kind of manner like above, I /sign!

BigTru

BigTru

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

/signed
/signed
/signed

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

I'm not sure how this would save the game people have already displayed that goals mean little in the game as there's ways around having to earn them. But having said that, it is an decent idea much like EQ2 after killing X-amount of something you are given a title. What would be better is a something that lets people know if yer looking for a party or not....now there something that's useful.

I find that too much text on a persons name becomes distracting. If it's toggled on and off then it should be both ways.

Pevil Lihatuh

Pevil Lihatuh

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yorkshire, UK

R/Me

me likey cool idea

Rey Lentless

Rey Lentless

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by NatalieD
Been playing City of Heroes, have we?
Obviously so. Since this isn't a unique idea and would be a blantant rip-off, this won't happen.

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

/signed

directly related to number of skills aquired

Volarian

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Texas

NOT-Nomads Of Turmoil

Sounds like SWG

actionjack

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Makkert
I fear in-game harrasment.
'you have dyes, give me dyes'
'you have money, please give money'
'you are experienced, how do I ...'
also 'pyromancer and 'superpyromancer' tend to give a peckingorder, while the 'pyromancer' could have a far more logical skillset then the 'superpyromancer'.

i'm conservative on this, so unless there are some refinements, I will not sign this.
Yes.. some one pointed out of your concern before too.
It is again the problem of unsure how people will react or abuse a orginal good intension. It might bar people from joining ("LFG must be Super Hydromancer!") However, I would say like armors, people will not look too much on the title as full represntation of who you are and what you can do.
(don't think see too much of "OMG, you don't have the full fussure set, you cann't joint us")

But again, the title being selectible and togglible might help on that, so you can display only the title you want to show.

Keyote

Keyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjack
But again, the title being selectible and togglible might help on that, so you can display only the title you want to show.
Although it wouldn't solve the bigger problem of groups taking on Super Pyromancers over ele's with no title.

People use anything they can to promote themselves over others, even having 15k armor. This would be another step towards alienating casual players.

Fred Kiwi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

[cola]

/signed

Yellow_lid

Yellow_lid

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Portland Or, USA

Swint Clan

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjack
But again, the title being selectible and togglible might help on that, so you can display only the title you want to show.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesmerized
*takes a deep breath*

Legendary Superpyrohydroaerogeomancer Treasure Hunter of Speedy Charrslaying Alastar Spellsinger.

*pants*
But someone may want to select THIS^^ title. :P I think there should be a maximum number of titles each character can use at once. and even then you end up with the problem of "Where is the title gonna be located?". If everyones "title" was part of their nametag you will have litterally DOUBLED the size of each players name. Perhaps a toggle but to see names on the other side of the trade button?

Ie... hit once then scroll through player's titles using the tab button.

Even so
/SIGNED

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

/signed - Not a bad idea

I would only have one level, instead of two tier.

Not sure what the title a Mesmer will have specialzing in Domination title would be called wearing certain 15k armor.

You will have a title for each single attribute, then one for each dual attribute combo's, and if you attempt 4 or more it sould be called "Adventurer" or some generic.

The Acolyte

The Acolyte

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seekers of Justice ~ SoJ

Not sure I agree with this concept as stated above (verdict still out for me). One tweak maybe, which would also add some simplicity, would be recognition for amount of xp earned, % of primary skills collected (including elites), and guild ranking.

One suggestion would be to allow for town item for the hand(s)/head. Example would be for those that are "elite" via 1 million xp earned, maybe they get a crown that can be shown in town in place of the standard helm. Or maybe it's a special sceptor that you can carry, or even as simple as a special aura that surrounds the player. Continuing with the xp idea and recognition for true eliteness, maybe the item/aura/whatever changes color/texture/looks at 5 million and (god forbid ) 10 million xp

Acolyte Devathi

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Sounds like fun, give me something more to strive for as my options are becoming limited.

/signed

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

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Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Acolyte
Not sure I agree with this concept as stated above (verdict still out for me). One tweak maybe, which would also add some simplicity, would be recognition for amount of xp earned, % of primary skills collected (including elites), and guild ranking.

One suggestion would be to allow for town item for the hand(s)/head. Example would be for those that are "elite" via 1 million xp earned, maybe they get a crown that can be shown in town in place of the standard helm. Or maybe it's a special sceptor that you can carry, or even as simple as a special aura that surrounds the player. Continuing with the xp idea and recognition for true eliteness, maybe the item/aura/whatever changes color/texture/looks at 5 million and (god forbid ) 10 million xp

Acolyte Devathi

Maybe emotes like pvp rank but based on total xp on your character?

The Acolyte

The Acolyte

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seekers of Justice ~ SoJ

Quote:
Originally Posted by EternalTempest
Maybe emotes like pvp rank but based on total xp on your character?
That's not a bad idea either. Hell, maybe both lol I wouldn't mind strutting around towns with a new emote and a transparently white/gold aura around me 'cause I have over 5 million xp. hehehehehe Might be fun. Plus, it would be a cool way to find others with compatible playing styles, for better or worse. I know it seems elitest, but for those that can empathize with what I'm saying, it would be nice to easily confirm the playing level of other chars.

oh, and yes, i understand that people may have multiple char's, and that one char may not have as much xp as another. Guess we'll just have to work towards getting the char out of noobiness via the system hehehe

Acolyte Devathi

actionjack

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

Emots and Aura are both good, and won't mind seeing some for PvE... but compare to titles, they seem need more time to do. Title is pretty simple, and more passive (you just let it show). So while I want to see more Emots and Aura, that does not conflict with titles. Two differnt thing.

As already suggested before, Variours way to get your title. and many titles too. Can split them in such way as:

- Depend on your stats, exp,, kill, time, etc
- Depend on your item at hand
- Depend on your quest, of if you done meet the condition require for that quest.
- Depend on Arenas
- Depend on Guilds
- etc

like SGW, Fable, Maboglin, CoH and many other games (didn't say it is orginal) Title is proven to be a good insentive to encourage playing and get some mind off farming, which GW needs. Some can also be as Badges, for more self viewing of your accomplishments.

Unis

Unis

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

Hampshire

Soulfire Shadows

W/

very nice idea *nods* the Legendary Unis Dragonblood Guildmaster Tycoon Charr Slayer hmm like it ;o

Al

Dralspire

Retired

Join Date: Apr 2005

I like the idea. I would pay almost any amount of gold for the title "Master of the Castle in the Sky".

Bahumhat

Bahumhat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere

C A K E[YuM]

Nice idea, /signed

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

My contribution...only one title is allowed to display, if any at all, chosen by a list with check boxes.

To show off, you would open the window and CTRL-click one of your awards. This would either result in an emote like rank or just a simple text such as "Sereng Amaranth has spilled the blood of 17,352,838 Charr in the name of Rin!"

Of course, the text option would require another channel, maybe named Medals, Awards, Milestones, etc.

jesh

jesh

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, CA

Penguin Village

Mo/

Perhaps something more fair than titles would be like a chart that you can open when you highlight someone else's character. It would show average damage per second, amount of pve deaths, amount of hours played, average healing efficiency, damage negated, damage prevented, amount of QUITING from missions, etc, maybe you could chose to put up a few skills, so other people could get an idea as to what your build is.

I think this would help a lot more than titles, although it isn't as vain.

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

kinda feels like D2 LOD... like whenever u beat a difficulty u get a name..

widowdaballa

widowdaballa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

TeXaS

Xen of Onslaught [XoO] Xen Of Heroes Division

I like what sereng amaranth is going, like have a prefix and a suffix. Only one label per each one. But Jesh, the way your idea is going, it would lead to less experienced players getting the cold shoulder, even if they are cool players to play with. Maybe some of those stats showing would be good, like your skills your using, or the amount of times you quit mid-mission.

Jczech

Jczech

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/

NO. The last thing guild wars needs is more ways for people to feel superior to everyone else. We already have /rank for that nonsense, and screwing newer players out of parties is not going to help the game.

That being, said I'd qualify as a Super Pyro/Geo/Aero/Hydromancer Legend Charr Slayer Tycon (tycoon?) ____ Barehander ___speeder ____ lone ranger treasure hunter dye merchant arena legend ____guild master. Not only would such a title be rediculous, but only serve to bog my monk down with even more pointless invites.

The Acolyte

The Acolyte

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seekers of Justice ~ SoJ

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jczech
NO. The last thing guild wars needs is more ways for people to feel superior to everyone else. We already have /rank for that nonsense, and screwing newer players out of parties is not going to help the game.

That being, said I'd qualify as a Super Pyro/Geo/Aero/Hydromancer Legend Charr Slayer Tycon (tycoon?) ____ Barehander ___speeder ____ lone ranger treasure hunter dye merchant arena legend ____guild master. Not only would such a title be rediculous, but only serve to bog my monk down with even more pointless invites.
Check out my tweak on the idea (above in thread). I'm not crazy about the titles either, though others have brought your point up and suggested things like:

- pick one title
- titles can only be collected, not seen (badges)
- Aura's for significant accomplishments, like 1mil/5mil/10mil gained and/or 99% or more skills collected for primary/secondary class

I don't mind people seperating themselves based on accomplishments. I'm not an elitist, but I have to admit I would find it nice to be able to recognize other people who are at the same level in the game to group with. I'm not in a guild, mostly because I haven't found one with mature adults, so most of my partying has been done with friends (cool) and others (hit or miss cool )

Acolyte Devathi