urban GW legends

Why are you even comparing these spells? Healing Hands is conditional; word isn't.

Only if you find something that doesnt take 3-5 attack hits during 10 seconds every 25 seconds its conditional.
Finding something below 50% health for more than a second is a much more difficult condition.

Charles Ensign is wrong

People are forced into farming because 15k armor exists.

Being Rank 3 means you're a skilled player.

That fame correlates to skill in any way what so ever.

'go for the monk first'

I love this one even more. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

/SIGNED!!

I dream of being able to make a pre-searing character and exterminate all devourers (and their eggs) so that the species becomes extinct, and then post-searing will be blissfully happy.

P.S. Go and play the Ruins of Surmia mission, even with a lev 20 character, and count the devourers. Roughly every 3 feet they will burrow up out of the dirt. The dirt is literally made out of burrowed devourers. And the fact that these beasts are basically everywhere in the entire game makes them the true scourge of Tyria. Devourers killed my inner child.

Couldn't agree more. Someone should start an online petition asking ANet to never put another devourer creature in new content. I think the hordes of ankle-biting dwarves in the shiverpeaks annoy me less.

Just curious where this idea that Healing Breeze is bad come from...

At 12 healing, it heals 160 points in 10 seconds for 10 energy.
By contrast, two Orizons give you 120 points for 10 energy.

That is, Healing Breeze is more energy efficient than Orizon of Healing, and one of the most energy efficient healing spells there are. Especially if you're a warrior and don't get bonus from divine favor.

Or am I missing something here?

It's heal over time, of course, healing 16 points per second, meaning it may heal too slow to help an avtar, but on the other hand it also means there's less risk of over healing.

IMO the whole point of Healing Breeze is that it's an effective healing spell one can use when one don't have time to micro-manage healing - for instance if you're a warrior and need to keep Alesia alive. As a wamo I could cast HB three times in a row, and having previously played a W/Me I can tell you that three healing breeze does wonders for Alesias longevity.

Mending also is quite useful. It isn't until almost the desert you run in to enchant removal on any significant scale, up until that your Mending will be humming along nicely. Even later mending can be useful - I use it when farming trolls, for instance, and it usually but not always works in random arena.

Other than that I pretty much agree (although I'd like to see the blue weapon that's as good as a green weapon, and in my experience the average PUG gamer *is* better than the henches - but I may just have been lucky).

I can see where that might come from: You solo in the UW, drop a few ecto
s. Walk the limited path you can as a solo-farmer, killing the monsters. Get one or 2 ecto's. And you think: "Hey, it must really be true"
Or with a group: all drop an ecto: You do your killing, you go back and pick up someone else's ecto by mistake. When you have left, you count your ecto's and think: "Even better then I though. It must be true" (while another player thinks: "Darn, did I miscount?" or "Bloody thieves!")

People are prone to superstitious beliefs when confronted with something which is really random.

Seriously, read my lips. Warriors cant heal jack!
Warriormonks are not supposed to heal (self), its ridiculous!

Try 15 or 16 divine with Aura of Faith and enchantments that last longer than 10 seconds to see really many high blue numbers.
as paladin try smiting or protecting.

We once did the rangers path with 4 monks and 2 hencheman.
The WoH monk we did the quest for mostly used word of healing, healing breeze and orison of healing.
The boon monk mostly used divine boon, Restore Condition and reversal of fortune.
I Mostly used Aura of Faith,Vigorous Spirit and dwaynas kiss.

The woh monk was so proud of his ~200 heal for ~7 energy every ~5 seconds.
The boon monk was so proud of his ~400 heal for ~7 energy every ~5 seconds.
I ADDED ~800 heal for ~7 energy every ~5 seconds.

imagine, the woh monk proudly heals someone for ~100 with a single WoH, than i put my enchantments on him and the boon monk heals him for ~500 health, just for fun.

on topic: Ollj is an urban GW Legend

Common urban legend: Gwen is dead.
I am obviously not dead... or am I?

On mending/HBreeze/vigorous spirit wamos.

A healing wamo in PVP sucks.

A healing wamo in team PVE sucks.

A healing wamo in PVE solo farming rocks.

Yes, if you have a healing monk on your side, you can forget healing yourself.

If you are alone, a healing paladin highly rocks against ennemies with no enchantment strips (Trolls, Ettins, Etc...).
Try taking a wamo, and test what's most effective when you are alone (I say alone, no other party members than you, no henchies etc...).
You have the smiting paladin, the protective paladin, and the healing paladin.
Having tested it, the healing paladin is the most efficient as you can survive big aggros.
The only difference is if you are fighting undeads. Then, the smiting "Balthazar aura" paladin is the best, as you will kill faster than you are killed.
So no more flaming about mending wamo, it's highly effective, but only in some particular situations: solo farming against warrior or elementalists ennemies (no mesmer/necromancers).

I make often dual farming with a friend monk. I take then protection. I use shielding hands/Life bond/succor on him and he use several smiting/healing/no attribute enchantment on himself and me (and sustain them with Essence bond, Blessed signet and Balthazar spirit). He uses also Balthazar's aura and/or Zealot fire to smite ennemies so they ie quickly and farming is not boring for him. Even against enchantment strippers this strategy works because he "tanks" the strips with temporary durations enchantment (Judge insight, vigorous spirit or healing breeze).
When we're against Undeads, though, he switches entirely on Smiting (16 Smiting Prayers rest in divine favor) and then that's me who.... heal (mending, healing breeze, vigorous spirit, and life transfer). Yes you heard well. Just keep him alive while he is taking damage (and redirecting it to undead ennemies with retribution (you have to effectively TAKE damage to make it effective, so to max out this enchantment you'd rather heal than protect).

If so much warriors use mending, it is because in solo situation and particular situation (I described above) it is effective. Yes a monk is better. but you haven't ALWAYS a monk by your side.

My Urban Legend, back on topic:
When you are at -60%DP, it's better to restart the mission or leave.

people with FoW armor are good at this game

My favorite myth of all time:

"<whatever you're not smart enough to figure out how to beat> is overpowered, and needs to be nerfed."

You won't cry when you accidentally sell your collector's armor with a Sup Absorption rune to the merchant for ~100gp. I will admit to whimpering, but not crying....

Poison is 8 dps. I'm scared. Carry a condition remover if you're that afraid of it. Any sustained enchant is obviously a waste when you're not doing anything..

Now that's funny, have fun relying on a full adrenaline build.

Mending is obviously better if you're running. As for missing, take a condition remover.
And I last a lot longer than most people with 200 al, thank you. That includes long enough to hit the target.. Empathy doesn't stop the self healing from Live Vicariously+Vigorous Spirit.


Not really, I thought I did it pretty clearly. Losing one pip is the same as not having .33 energy per second. As for the waiting comment, that's silly. "Oh, I can cast meteor shower 4 times and it won't hurt my energy cause I can wait u noob." Especially with a warrior, waiting for regen is a pain, when it's already only 2. Even not taking energy degeneration into account, Live Vicariously+Vigorous = 10 energy cost, and mending = 10.

I dont get it either.

Even if amount healed for energy cost was the issue, with breeze you cast it on someone taking damage and it stops their health dropping, slows it down or even regens without over healing. you dont have to worry about that person instead of waiting for their health to drop again to re-heal. One of the best heals for a monk IMO.

No one ever said all skills were equal. But there are no rediculously overpowered skills. There are tons of crappy skills that no one should ever use, and then the other half of the game is the viable skills library, and of these, none are more powerful than the rest.

How about we stay on the original topic....go to the skills forum if you want to compare healing skill...

urban legend= mesmers suck in pve

Urban Legend: You can reduce healing to equations.

Every update or nerf from ANet is there to mess over farmer/soloist/you personally.

urban legend : there is infact a GW god and er: 7 is just him smiting you for being a bad person


not thats soooo true

EEEK GHOST GWEN !!!!!

Heres few

"Ax is better then Sword"

"Ax does more damage then sword"

"Everyone who uses sword is a noob"

Dang IWAY Ax Noobs

"Only Monks and Warriors can solo-farm"

To anyone who says that use the search button you'll find some interesting builds.

At 16 healing, orison is far superior to breeze, since you get ~70 health per orison plus divine favour bonus. The big thing, though, in a more general sense is that there aren't really any situations where breeze can be used that another, cheaper, better, healing spell couldn't be. The guy is poisoned/bleeding/diseased/burning? Dwanya's kiss or mend ailment will do better than breeze. The guy is getting beaten by repeated physical attacks? Healing seed will do better. The guy is suffering under massive degen from a necro? For 5 more energy than breeze, hit him with convert hexes.

If you're a warrior, putting a couple points into tactics and taking healing sig or I Will Survive, or a stance will work just as well as breeze. It also doesn't require you to have a monk secondary, so you can increase your damage output.

Mending a great solo farming or running skill. In a group setting, particularly in pvp, it is basically worthless. All I will say is that if you're playing W/Mo in PvP and bring mending, you had better put it on your monk!

Just keep even remotely on topic, here's a few urban legends I see quoted every so often:

"Monks shouldn't care about condition/hex removal"
"Monks don't need energy management"
"Rangers don't do enough damage to be useful in PvE"
"Necros are only useful as batteries"
"A successful PvE group needs at least 2-3 warriors and 2-3 monks"
"You can get etcos by salvaging ghostly remains"
"Warriors should never bring stances in PvE"
"Thunderhead keep is most easily won by guarding both gates"
"Pets are useless"

Rico

Threads started in GWGuru stay on topic more often than not.

-Saying noob is a great way to show you intelligence.
-There are no monks in Augruy Rock Internation dis 1. (this was on a good day. I went there a while ago and there was 1 war and about 30 monks).

-You need a monk for the first misson
-smiting monks are always wanted

could we get more off topic lol?

Having only 20 Levels is Great!

Anet has nothing against an honest farmer

Skill>Grind

Skills are balanced

Game is balanced

You need 3 monks

Ranger spike is overpowered

Rangers need a nerf

Mesmers need a nerf

Monks need a nerf

Warriors need a nerf

Necro's need a nerf

Ele's need a nerf

X skill needs a nerf

Here is one:

High rank = good pvp player

If you don't see numbers going up, you're not having any fun.

grrr!!!!

<-----european

omfg lol

try to start reading at least the first post of a thread. sometimes it helps

1. That the -next- patch will be when ANet stops the endless nerfing and instead starts implementing the improvements players have been asking for the past six months.

2. That things will be better in Chapter 2.

"We got a monk! Now we're all completely and totally invincible..."