W/N UW Solo: Testament of Warriors
lyra_song
Mist Form maybe?? >.>
Sentao Nugra
well, racthoh. i must say another stroke of genius from you.
im going to try this later, but will probably go with parasitic bond for the healing
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im going to try this later, but will probably go with parasitic bond for the healing
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Mist Form maybe?? >.>
only problem is the 10 second gap from end to recharged, and you could get pommeled in that 10 seconds
Racthoh
Aatxe damage with just dolyak up... that would be around 20 damage at most I would say. Hmm... that's probably being too generous.
Been showing a few people and the general comment I make is patience. That, and never panic. I would always ping deep wound to show that you can't bend over backwards and get nervous. Double digit, in the teens in health... it happens to me, expect it to happen to you. Expect to deal 0 damage during Gladiator's Defense. For the record, it has happened to me but what can you expect with how much testing this went through.
For the sake of simply letting players understand how the aatxes are going... I have recorded some of my sessions (keep dying though, almost at the 2000 mark... poor guy) to show the situations going bad. Just uh... ignore the MSN messenger window popping up if I put that in the video.
Keep up the effort, let's see a screenshot at the monument in the ice wastes.
Been showing a few people and the general comment I make is patience. That, and never panic. I would always ping deep wound to show that you can't bend over backwards and get nervous. Double digit, in the teens in health... it happens to me, expect it to happen to you. Expect to deal 0 damage during Gladiator's Defense. For the record, it has happened to me but what can you expect with how much testing this went through.
For the sake of simply letting players understand how the aatxes are going... I have recorded some of my sessions (keep dying though, almost at the 2000 mark... poor guy) to show the situations going bad. Just uh... ignore the MSN messenger window popping up if I put that in the video.
Keep up the effort, let's see a screenshot at the monument in the ice wastes.
Yichi
yes this is deffinately a patience build. so far i have foudn it not as productive as the spider farmer. i found that i could get to the smites about once every 3 runs. nice and all, but not the success rate of the spider farmer, but still takes practice
dont feel no pain
i been reading the spider one and i just wondering if u considered balthzars spirit i use it on almost every farming build i do but seeing as you are w/n for this underworld build u only use enfeeble and that can be swa[ed for the mesmer skill psyhical resistance for more defence or mabye. but if u are into curses with enfeeble why not throw mark of pain in there or drop gladators defence for spiteful spirit?..............i'm probably wrong but they are all worth a try.
Racthoh
Physical Resistance, stance. Also, when you get to the smites you'll be taking a lot of damage from their Zealot's Fire.
The benefit of Gladiator's Defense is that I'm also not getting hit a lot. That means not as much bleeding and deep wound. Spiteful Spirit, albeit may last longer, would leave me rather vulnerable. Not to mention when you get to the smites, you're pretty much out of luck. It might work on the aatxe, in which case you may have to replace Watch Yourself with Plague Touch. But then, the question of how much energy do you have, can I time my skills with Riposte and Deadly Riposte so they don't get Savage Slashed... brings in a slew of variables to consider. Mark of Pain... requires physical damage to be dealt to the aatxe. You're using a wand that does fire damage so it won't trigger. If it does trigger off of Gladiator's Defense, Riposte, and Deadly Riposte by the time you start fighting the next one it'll probably have regenerated all that health. They have a natural regen of either +2 or +3 because when they are bleeding their health doesn't move. Against smites... smite hex... return to outpost.
Been recording a few runs tonight... one successful with a fellow guru member, but I wasn't recording it. However, I've compiled a video the demonstrates killing one followed by positioning yourself to take on the center group at the top of the stairs.
http://files.filefront.com/UW_Solo_P.../fileinfo.html
Enjoy, hopefully I can get get more captured to show killing a group of five smites.
The benefit of Gladiator's Defense is that I'm also not getting hit a lot. That means not as much bleeding and deep wound. Spiteful Spirit, albeit may last longer, would leave me rather vulnerable. Not to mention when you get to the smites, you're pretty much out of luck. It might work on the aatxe, in which case you may have to replace Watch Yourself with Plague Touch. But then, the question of how much energy do you have, can I time my skills with Riposte and Deadly Riposte so they don't get Savage Slashed... brings in a slew of variables to consider. Mark of Pain... requires physical damage to be dealt to the aatxe. You're using a wand that does fire damage so it won't trigger. If it does trigger off of Gladiator's Defense, Riposte, and Deadly Riposte by the time you start fighting the next one it'll probably have regenerated all that health. They have a natural regen of either +2 or +3 because when they are bleeding their health doesn't move. Against smites... smite hex... return to outpost.
Been recording a few runs tonight... one successful with a fellow guru member, but I wasn't recording it. However, I've compiled a video the demonstrates killing one followed by positioning yourself to take on the center group at the top of the stairs.
http://files.filefront.com/UW_Solo_P.../fileinfo.html
Enjoy, hopefully I can get get more captured to show killing a group of five smites.
dont feel no pain
hmm u ever considered going w/e and taking armor of the earth that would easily cover enfeelbe and cut ur dmg by a lot when combined with doylak signit. ye i know i keep trying new ideas thats what i am like...i am never ever happy with a build and always try to improve ..sorry if i am insulting ur testing i just like to improve builds. o ye if ya do that u can acaualy leave out watchyourself and possibly put in somthing else there like mabye..for great justice for double riposte for 20 secs lol i cant stop.
Racthoh
Hmm... sounds like a fine idea. Plus, I could really use that extra defense against smites. I think that might be a better solution... I'm not sure if I could test this myself because it would take more timing to understand when Armour of Earth is going to end and how that affects my flow.
3/4 second cast time... 30 seconds, same as Gladiators... that works almost too well. I usually have at least 10 energy leftover so that wouldn't come into play.
Bah, go figure I record my session as w/n and this is probably better. *Shakes fist at dont feel no pain for upstaging*. See this is why I post it, make it easier for me to make a profit.
3/4 second cast time... 30 seconds, same as Gladiators... that works almost too well. I usually have at least 10 energy leftover so that wouldn't come into play.
Bah, go figure I record my session as w/n and this is probably better. *Shakes fist at dont feel no pain for upstaging*. See this is why I post it, make it easier for me to make a profit.
Dahnel
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hmm u ever considered going w/e and taking armor of the earth that would easily cover enfeelbe and cut ur dmg by a lot when combined with doylak signit. p.
and how would you cast enfeeble as a w/e ???
Racthoh
He is suggesting that the bonus from Armour of Earth would be equivilent to having Enfeele on the skillbar. 
striderkaaru
i'm pretty sure it can be done with any secondary as long as you keep a few fundamental things in mind:
1 - damage reduction
racthoh accomplishes this using enfeeble, as this is most important vs aatxe. if you can figure out an equivalent from a different secondary, then you're good to go.
2 - enchantments
if you decide to go via enchantments, keep in mind that you need to be able to take care of dying nightmares consistently. racthoh's build has no enchantments, so they pose no problem for him.
racthoh's w/n build is solid because of those two things. enfeeble takes care of the aatxe, and the lack of enchants means that dying nightmares aren't even an issue.
1 - damage reduction
racthoh accomplishes this using enfeeble, as this is most important vs aatxe. if you can figure out an equivalent from a different secondary, then you're good to go.
2 - enchantments
if you decide to go via enchantments, keep in mind that you need to be able to take care of dying nightmares consistently. racthoh's build has no enchantments, so they pose no problem for him.
racthoh's w/n build is solid because of those two things. enfeeble takes care of the aatxe, and the lack of enchants means that dying nightmares aren't even an issue.
Racthoh
Elementalist - Enervating Charge/Armour of Earth.
Mesmer - Physical Resistance (creates conflicts, would require skill tweaking).
Monk - Just go back to griffons... heh but seriously I can't think of anything.
Ranger - Same boat as monk.
Well, think I might change my secondary to elementalist since both Enervating Charge and Armour of Earth are very tempting. I'll have to test that one.
Mesmer - Physical Resistance (creates conflicts, would require skill tweaking).
Monk - Just go back to griffons... heh but seriously I can't think of anything.
Ranger - Same boat as monk.
Well, think I might change my secondary to elementalist since both Enervating Charge and Armour of Earth are very tempting. I'll have to test that one.
bobrath
Still enjoying this... now just have to give up green farming with random pugs ..... that was wasy!
striderkaaru
i've tried w/e before, but never really spent too much time on it. investing in both air and earth is taxing on the attribute points. you'd have to drop strength a bit, or drop it altogether. but dolyak + armor of earth + watch yourself is too yummy to pass up. i also tried ward vs. melee in the build.
just be careful of the nightmares. a stripped armor of earth is no good.
just be careful of the nightmares. a stripped armor of earth is no good.
dont feel no pain
monk = viegerous spirit/balthzars spirit
lyra_song
me and a friend have been trying out a Duo-build with a W/? tanking and My mesmer doing the damage...
its been hella fun ^^;;
i really wanna thank you for opening up my eyes to other possibilities with fighting enemies.
since your FoW spider posting and this one, ive been taking on other stronger enemies i didnt think i could fight using more less used skills.
its been hella fun ^^;;
i really wanna thank you for opening up my eyes to other possibilities with fighting enemies.
since your FoW spider posting and this one, ive been taking on other stronger enemies i didnt think i could fight using more less used skills.
damkel
wow. nice video again Racthoh. ur head must be getting so big from all these posts. heehee. also music in this video was a great improvement.
video really helps with the strategy and how to position urself to block off the 2nd aatxe. a picture is worth a thousand words as they say. thanks again dude.
video really helps with the strategy and how to position urself to block off the 2nd aatxe. a picture is worth a thousand words as they say. thanks again dude.
axe
Yeah Racthoh, I know youre like me being a "Nerd plain and simple" so I know you are checking this thread regularly and admiring your good work. But seriously, Ive been using the FOW spider build for most everything now, and slicing through enemies like butter. And this Tank (you showed me earlier) build is what I was running in UW with my guild (we were going in with about 4 of us) and new members to our guild were wondering how come we were only going in with 4 of us and then were thrilled that they never have ever been that far in UW even with a full party of 8.
So you have changed my Warrior build for the better and ESPECIALLY after the AOE nerf. By the way, Im sure others are curious as well. Which pieces of FOW armor are you using? I like the way the FOW armor looks but like most I dont want to shell out for all the pieces, so what did you get?
So you have changed my Warrior build for the better and ESPECIALLY after the AOE nerf. By the way, Im sure others are curious as well. Which pieces of FOW armor are you using? I like the way the FOW armor looks but like most I dont want to shell out for all the pieces, so what did you get?
Racthoh
Figure in the second part it'll be how to grab the lone aatxe so that you don't have to worry about fighting three in a row at the start. It's entirely possible, but if you're just starting it's not something to want to deal with right away. That and where to stand on the stairs, and getting that really tricky group to position themselves just right.
Just like the solo monk, this will naturally go faster with a little support. Passive Destruction... has a nice ring to it...
C'mon guys, it's been two days now... let's see some screenies!
I'm using the FoW gladiator pieces. True story, I wanted the energy, but I didn't want to be naked. The only reason I got it.
The Ascalon Helm (I haven't worn a different kind of helm for regular PvE since presearing as my warrior) and the 15k dragon I personally thinks compliment the armour quite well.
I thoroughly hope that Anet realizes the joy that people get out of this, and becoming better warriors rather than a place to get some ecto. Hopefully then they won't nerf it when they realize that players are developing strategy and thinking outside the box. Given that this, like spiders, is time consuming and moreorless fun than anything else.
Just like the solo monk, this will naturally go faster with a little support. Passive Destruction... has a nice ring to it...
C'mon guys, it's been two days now... let's see some screenies!
I'm using the FoW gladiator pieces. True story, I wanted the energy, but I didn't want to be naked. The only reason I got it.
The Ascalon Helm (I haven't worn a different kind of helm for regular PvE since presearing as my warrior) and the 15k dragon I personally thinks compliment the armour quite well.I thoroughly hope that Anet realizes the joy that people get out of this, and becoming better warriors rather than a place to get some ecto. Hopefully then they won't nerf it when they realize that players are developing strategy and thinking outside the box. Given that this, like spiders, is time consuming and moreorless fun than anything else.
damkel
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
...I thoroughly hope that Anet realizes the joy that people get out of this, and becoming better warriors rather than a place to get some ecto. Hopefully then they won't nerf it when they realize that players are developing strategy and thinking outside the box. Given that this, like spiders, is time consuming and moreorless fun than anything else.
agree very much with that. PvP isnt a huge turn on for a lot of people. so this is their bread and butter.
striderkaaru
building a better warrior. hehe. racthoh should get a cookie, not just for coming up with the build, but for sharing it and improving warriors worldwide.
*gives cookie*
oh, yeah. let's see some screenies!
*gives cookie*
oh, yeah. let's see some screenies!
Nawn Centz
I'm getting owned everytime, I'm no good. (I've tried about 20 times)
Good build though.
Good build though.
dont feel no pain
hey racthoh u tired it with armor of the earth yet? i havn't got around to it i''m still hooked on my hydra build + it works with the grawls at porte sledge and trolls.
all i need is europe to have favor and a zealous hilt lol
all i need is europe to have favor and a zealous hilt lol
Racthoh
I haven't had a chance yet to try it with Armour of Earth. I'm still trying to record the whole session with my current build to demonstrate how to get it working.
I'm also gonna try it with Enervating Charge since it would be better in Enfeeble in some aspect.
EDIT: Part II is up: http://files.filefront.com/Solo_Part.../fileinfo.html and I hope once again my taste in midi/music doesn't make you vomit.
I'm also gonna try it with Enervating Charge since it would be better in Enfeeble in some aspect.
EDIT: Part II is up: http://files.filefront.com/Solo_Part.../fileinfo.html and I hope once again my taste in midi/music doesn't make you vomit.
Senator Tom
if the lack of posts here is because no one wants to spend 20k getting the build down, just go to elona reach with a monk who has pacifism. go outside and just use this build on those drakes! try to lure them out of the wards though, cause sometimes they dont hit you to trigger the riposite if your in the ward. (i think?) the monk uses pacifism ont he one your not attacking, so it sjust like being in the underworld! also, another good place to practice, is go into dunes and kill the wurms. that way you can just keep going over and over and its just like an aatxe cause it does do a lot of dmg, and its huge and has lots of hp and armor and stuff.
now once your leet like me you can go into uw and do it yay
now once your leet like me you can go into uw and do it yay
damkel
Thanks for posting that second movie Racthoh.
when you were positioned wrongly at the first mob, it was nice to see you reposition urself so that only one aatxe was attacking. thanks for that.
the "sorry im greedy" commentary was funny. How many Ectos do you average per successful run?
once again thanks for your generosity and help
when you were positioned wrongly at the first mob, it was nice to see you reposition urself so that only one aatxe was attacking. thanks for that.
the "sorry im greedy" commentary was funny. How many Ectos do you average per successful run?
once again thanks for your generosity and help
Black Monks are cool
I guess i am a noob of GW Guru.
On my warrior I can solo 1 aatxe at a time. I use ALL stances and Deadly Riposte (never attacking a single aatxe). I have tried your build and...are you God? In my build I SPAM Healing Signet and i can't kill 2 at a time. I could get them but, they get enough adrenaline to use Sever Artery. I don't know why but this always seems to hit me...and for around 200 damage (even with dolyak signet at +36 armor)
BTW I like your FoW build...i just wish it was faster.
On my warrior I can solo 1 aatxe at a time. I use ALL stances and Deadly Riposte (never attacking a single aatxe). I have tried your build and...are you God? In my build I SPAM Healing Signet and i can't kill 2 at a time. I could get them but, they get enough adrenaline to use Sever Artery. I don't know why but this always seems to hit me...and for around 200 damage (even with dolyak signet at +36 armor)
BTW I like your FoW build...i just wish it was faster.
Racthoh
Well I kill less than a solo monk since they'll typically kill the Dryders as well, and probably a few more Aatxe. I'm assuming they would anyway. I'm getting about one ecto per go so I'm happy with it.
God... not yet... but at no time should you be trying to take on more than one with my build. One can be a problem when your stances aren't blocking the attacks. I'm also using a +7 vs. physical pommel on top of Dolyak and Weakness so I'm decked out.
Finished editing the 3rd and final installment. No excuses not to be able to do this now.
http://files.filefront.com/UW_Solo_P.../fileinfo.html
God... not yet... but at no time should you be trying to take on more than one with my build. One can be a problem when your stances aren't blocking the attacks. I'm also using a +7 vs. physical pommel on top of Dolyak and Weakness so I'm decked out.
Finished editing the 3rd and final installment. No excuses not to be able to do this now.
http://files.filefront.com/UW_Solo_P.../fileinfo.html
damkel
Thanks again Racthoh. Those smiters are scary. Ever watch a video and try to click on the skills thinking you're playing? heehee.
Dahnel
YES ! finally beat my first aataxe !
now to take the rest on ! lol
now to take the rest on ! lol
damkel
wow!! Nicely done Dahnel.
Me have idea
Desperation blow: (Melee Attack) If this attack hits, you strike for +(10..34 [42]) damage, and your target suffers from one of the following Conditions: Deep Wound (for 20 seconds), Weakness (for 20 seconds), Bleeding (for 25 seconds), or Crippled (for 15 seconds). After making a Desperation Blow, you are knocked down.
Desperation blow causes different conditions. Are these conditions completely random, or associating with using a certain weapon. e.g. bleeding when using sword, deep wound when using axe, weakness when using hammer, crippled when foe is running away.
If the later assumption is correct then desperation blow can be used (while hammer is equiped) instead of enervating charge or enfeeble to cause weakness. Meaning that more attribute points can be spent on blood magic (life siphon would be fun) or earth magic (armour of earth) instead of on curses or air magic.
any comments? anyone know exactly how desperation blow assigns these conditions?
Me have idea
Desperation blow: (Melee Attack) If this attack hits, you strike for +(10..34 [42]) damage, and your target suffers from one of the following Conditions: Deep Wound (for 20 seconds), Weakness (for 20 seconds), Bleeding (for 25 seconds), or Crippled (for 15 seconds). After making a Desperation Blow, you are knocked down.
Desperation blow causes different conditions. Are these conditions completely random, or associating with using a certain weapon. e.g. bleeding when using sword, deep wound when using axe, weakness when using hammer, crippled when foe is running away.
If the later assumption is correct then desperation blow can be used (while hammer is equiped) instead of enervating charge or enfeeble to cause weakness. Meaning that more attribute points can be spent on blood magic (life siphon would be fun) or earth magic (armour of earth) instead of on curses or air magic.
any comments? anyone know exactly how desperation blow assigns these conditions?
funbun
Get ready for Anet to nerf this build. When are you folks gonna get it: DON'T POST YOUR UBER BUILDS. THEY WILL GET NERFED!
It happened to the invincimonks. It will happen to this build.
It happened to the invincimonks. It will happen to this build.
Digirom
Why would ANET nerf it ?... it s way slower than any monk based build, and only a few people succeed in using it,.....
So why would ANET nerf it ? and dont tell me the "blabla ... shouldnt be possible solo"
So why would ANET nerf it ? and dont tell me the "blabla ... shouldnt be possible solo"
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by funbun
Get ready for Anet to nerf this build. When are you folks gonna get it: DON'T POST YOUR UBER BUILDS. THEY WILL GET NERFED!
It happened to the invincimonks. It will happen to this build. As far as I can tell, I was the only one doing this. I, having everything I need, have no need to keep anything hidden. Plus, this is no simple trick. I'm fairly certain that a good majority of the people reading this have attempted it and died at the first aatxe. As such, posting it hurts me and me alone.
Desperation Blow will inflict the conditions randomly regardless of weapon. Also, it requires you to hit your foe with a melee attack. Aatxe constantly have either Riposte or Deadly Riposte in effect. If they didn't use those skills then the need for the wand would be obsolete.
It happened to the invincimonks. It will happen to this build. As far as I can tell, I was the only one doing this. I, having everything I need, have no need to keep anything hidden. Plus, this is no simple trick. I'm fairly certain that a good majority of the people reading this have attempted it and died at the first aatxe. As such, posting it hurts me and me alone.
Desperation Blow will inflict the conditions randomly regardless of weapon. Also, it requires you to hit your foe with a melee attack. Aatxe constantly have either Riposte or Deadly Riposte in effect. If they didn't use those skills then the need for the wand would be obsolete.
squall amadeaus
do u think a war/monk sword+a war/monk axe will rock or war/necro axe+ war/necro axe better???or war/monk axe + war/monk axe ???or war/monk sword+war/necro axe??lol
Racthoh
It will be a lot easier as is my understanding.
squall amadeaus
racthoh,if u wanna come here in france,pm me,i will host u as a king in my tiny house,already added u in friend list of one of my account,i will pay for a demo,im koinda rich since 3 man in sorrow,i just want new challenges
Racthoh
Heh thanks for the offer. However, do you play in Europe, Korea, or America? I'm assuming Europe, in which case I wouldn't be able to switch over to show you. In all fairness, if I had switch servers to show one person I would've run out of server changes a long time ago.
In which case, you'll have to find someone who can do it from the European servers or learn from the tutorial videos.
In which case, you'll have to find someone who can do it from the European servers or learn from the tutorial videos.
squall amadeaus
man,european servers sucks,never favor not peps online,i reached US servor since april ^^
Dahnel
hey i was praticing this as i do most the time we have favor ! and i replaced bonnettis with shield stance which really helped against the aataxes as i dont have to wait for it to charge after glads wears off i can just do, d. ripoast, enfeeble, ripoast, shield stance ...and the nice thing is it wears off just ass glads defense comes back to recharged ! lol dont know how this would work against 2 of them though ...