W/N UW Solo: Testament of Warriors

legs

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

[GG] - Guilty Guild

W/Mo

ah.. of course. thx!

I will also say congrats on a great build. gj racthoh!

wont try it tho, seems to nervwrecking for me. Farming sand drakes is a lot easier, and you can eat while doin it

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Ah, well you have a good 11 seconds to eat while your stances are in effect.

Knido

Knido

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

in exile

W/

thats like, 4 french fries and a sip of coke

The Primeval King

The Primeval King

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Theres A Frog On My [Cape]

W/

Is there a chance you could show me how to do it in-game? That is, once we get favor.. Silly Power Of My Rangers is keeping europe 8 wins ahead of us for favor..

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
Ah, well you have a good 11 seconds to eat while your stances are in effect. and to type silly messages to certain guild leaders

El_Inferno

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

but how can you kill a aatxe in 11 secs :P

i wanna see that

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

That's why you have the two stances, and both ripostes. Gladiator's Defense has an 30 second recharge, 11 of which is spent during its own use. Another 11 is spent in Bonetti's. Since the aatxe use a sword like attack, you are hit once every 1.33 seconds. Well, 2.66 of those seconds are blocked with Riposte and Deadly Riposte when Gladiator's Defense ends. Wand attack, use Bonettis. Another 2.66 when Bonetti's Defense ends. You have a brief 3 or so seconds in which you can be struck. I usually let myself get hit 3 times so that I'm not rushing, and it's not like they hurt a whole lot.

El_Inferno

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

i´m talking about the signet of midnight build but ok

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahnel
and to type silly messages to certain guild leaders Purple FoWPants, ja!

sig of mid build is simple, just blind, apply damage dealing things, wait, and recast sig of mid when it runs out

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

if i can find what i did with the pics later, the w/r build i posted does work. a friend and i did it successfully 5/5 tries, although it does take some good timing and luck...

KitsunE81

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Netherlands, The

Bambis Dont Say [Meow]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
Figure in the second part it'll be how to grab the lone aatxe so that you don't have to worry about fighting three in a row at the start. It's entirely possible, but if you're just starting it's not something to want to deal with right away. That and where to stand on the stairs, and getting that really tricky group to position themselves just right.

Just like the solo monk, this will naturally go faster with a little support. Passive Destruction... has a nice ring to it...

C'mon guys, it's been two days now... let's see some screenies!

I'm using the FoW gladiator pieces. True story, I wanted the energy, but I didn't want to be naked. The only reason I got it. The Ascalon Helm (I haven't worn a different kind of helm for regular PvE since presearing as my warrior) and the 15k dragon I personally thinks compliment the armour quite well.

I thoroughly hope that Anet realizes the joy that people get out of this, and becoming better warriors rather than a place to get some ecto. Hopefully then they won't nerf it when they realize that players are developing strategy and thinking outside the box. Given that this, like spiders, is time consuming and moreorless fun than anything else. wow, very nice build, it's so true, the 55hp Monk is so easy compared to this, you just use some enchantments and keep them up, but with this build it really requires skill, so far wasted 5k and gained nothing, but I'll keep on trying, after I get the hang of this I'll try and improve the build aswell, of course.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

As a result of the smites being immune to bleeding, this has become easier since the update. No more Mend Condition to worry about.

{IceFire}

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

racthoh is soooo smart.... first time i read thru all that! wow!

Hasimir

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/N

Fabulous build !

I was tinking to add Price of Failure to speed up the killing proces...but I have a question:
Price of Failure deals damage when the attack MISSES.
If I use some skill that let's me BLOCK or EVADE attacks...does these attacks count as "missed" in regards of PoF?

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasimir
Fabulous build !

I was tinking to add Price of Failure to speed up the killing proces...but I have a question:
Price of Failure deals damage when the attack MISSES.
If I use some skill that let's me BLOCK or EVADE attacks...does these attacks count as "missed" in regards of PoF? doubtful.

missing and blocking/evading are separate checks. it's one of the reasons why a blinded opponent won't trigger glad's defense when he/she misses.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Price / Spirit of failure trigger when the Aatxe misses with blind, and I'm fairly sure they trigger on block/evades too. When I tried using them on aatxes while Racthoh tanked (as support mesmer sooo long ago) spirit was giving energy when he had Glads up. Don't know it this got changed though.

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Price / Spirit of failure trigger when the Aatxe misses with blind, and I'm fairly sure they trigger on block/evades too. When I tried using them on aatxes while Racthoh tanked (as support mesmer sooo long ago) spirit was giving energy when he had Glads up. Don't know it this got changed though. the question here would be did the aatxe receive glads dmg from the miss?

my guess is that the price/spirit of failure miss chance checks first. if they miss because of that, you got the energy and the engine doesn't even bother checking for glads.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Just tested with spirit of failure and Bonetti's defence, every time the enemy missed I got +4 +5 energy (4 from spirit, 5 from bonetti's). It would appear they will both trigger.

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Just tested with spirit of failure and Bonetti's defence, every time the enemy missed I got +4 +5 energy (4 from spirit, 5 from bonetti's). It would appear they will both trigger. i guess that settles it then.
nice job.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

I'm just trying to think how you would add Price of Failure to the build. If/When you get the build down, try swapping Enfeeble with Enervating Charge. You'll find that you barely have enough energy to maintain the pattern. Price of Failure has a 10 energy cost and a 3 second cast. It would require you to start casting while Bonetti's is in effect, hope you block during that time (aka, no Savage Slash) to have the energy to cast Enfeeble after it finishes along with the Deadly Riposte then Gladiator's Defense. Not to mention that is the time in which I heal, plus you've taken away 3 seconds that you could've been attacking to rebuild adrenaline for Bonetti's. Also in the event that you have to heal twice you're going to be begging for adrenaline come time for Bonetti's again.

Plus come smites... I'm not sure what you're going to do. All I'm saying is get the build down first, you'll start to understand how it's a pattern where one false move can leave you dead. Believe me, with the number of people that I've watched I can tell very quickly that they're going to die.

berko

berko

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Inferno
i tryed the w/me with signet of midnight.
i can kill one with no problem but how can you fight against mobs of 2 or even 3? you cant cast midnight on all of them ... Signet of Midnight >>>> Epidemic (Transfer all negative "Conditions" and their remaining durations from target foe to all foes adjacent to your target.)..... only problem here would be that Epidemic is very energy intensive as it needs 15 nrg. Casting time is 1/4. So you would probably have to time is as your Bonetti's Defense is about to run out.

I haven't actually tried any of this, I'm just posting some suggestions.
I'll probably try Ract's build see if I can do it or not :|, too bad the video's are not downloadable anymore.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Yeah Filefront being a pain...

Problem with Epidemic is that the target you cast it on is healed of all conditions.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Wrong, it's an error in the skill description, the target is not healed.
The flaw in epidemic is the horrendously close range.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Hmm... yet another skill that needs a description tweak, unless transfer means something else now.

Despite speculation about weapon switching being buggy, this is still possible.

berko

berko

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

N/Me

Transfer still means transefer. If you use Plague Sending or Plague Touch, you will lose the condition you're transfering so I believe Epidemic is either bugged, or it just needs the description tweaked. I hope it's the other one though.

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

Hats off to you for a great idea again Ractoth

While I really like the concept behind doing this, your setup is way to technichal for me with all the start attacking, stop, switch weapons, switch back.
Not to mention the fact that I don't mind useing someones concepts but I'm against copying someones builds completely.

But again thanks for the inspiration to find a way for lazy people like me to do this And being a W/N since the release of this game it is kind of ironic that W/N is the only build that I could come up with that worked for how I wanted to run.

Took some time and a few plat to get the bugs worked out but it was a blast just for the sense of accomplishment!!!
Not sure how fast this will be with the smites I was summoned away from UW just before going to them but it does seem to cut through the Aatxes pretty fast and leaves yourself with a pretty large margin for error.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

I would've thought for sure energy would be a problem. Guess not, nice work!

Blade Rez

Blade Rez

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fairfax, VA

Shadows Of Nightmares (KoN)

W/

First of all. Racthoh. How you do this your way is beyond me......

I went through 11k tonight. Trying to do your build, and it didnt work for me. So i started to try and find the basics of your build. I kind of centered it to around deadly riposte+riposte. Correct me if I'm wrong. So i changed this up. First, I put in Plague Touch. 3/4 second cast 5 energy. No recast time. That helped a bit. So I figured that the way to beat this was with degen. So i stuck in Rotting Flesh. 17 second disease. 15 energy. (ouch). However, this worked, because in that 17 seconds you can recharge bonnetis, and cast up gladiators, then recast rotting flesh. I killed the first aataxe this way. Then i moved to the second. And It glitched into the steps. So it was inside the steps, but attacking me like 20 feet away. I was getting attacked by an invisible aataxe and died =\.

Second time, killed the first aataxe again, got the 2nd to half health, forgot to enfeeble and ended up with taking 293 dmg sever artery. I don't know racthoh how you do it your way with the weapon switching, but i think that the wand concept has opened many new possibilities due to the fact you wont trigger reposite and deadly reposite. I'll build on my build during the weekend. Thanks for this build racthoh.


Now i need to cap Signet of midnight...

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

Hello Blade; I agree with you completly about Racthoh, I think he has 4 hands and 2 brains just to be able to pull off the constant starting stopping and switching oh my

So I came up with a pretty decent setup for us mortals that you can see in the screenshot above.

Pretty much just a don't get hit build for the Aatxes
Running 16 tactics 12 curses
Parasitic bond takes off the Aaxtes natural regen and makes a nice self heal
Enfeeble
Price of failure
Glads defense
Sheild stance
Disciplined stance
Bonettis
Heal sig

Useing the collectors truncheon for curses you actually do some decent damage while just wanding all the time and Glads with price double up on the damage also when you get the timing down for your energy you can keep price on them for most of the other stances.
The Aaxtes go down pretty fast but the smites are a different story this will work on them but takes about twice as long as the guy with 4 hands does them

Blade Rez

Blade Rez

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fairfax, VA

Shadows Of Nightmares (KoN)

W/

Yes, for the smites I knew it was going to be hard with a degen build. I'm trying to think how maybe you can make an IW build.. that would make it go faster i guess. Oh well, I'll have to try out your way.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

IW on a warrior has a very poor damage output, a high energy cost, and would require brute-forcing through aatxe ripostes. It also means no glads def.

If you want IW for smiteruns, use a 55mes

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

W/

iw's damage output is decent. however, for those trying to develop their own builds, just keep in mind that attacking with iw still triggers the aatxe ripostes.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

IW = W/Me = no glads def = no enfeeble = needs high illu = 1k lost

Just to summarize.. Youll need high tactics str and illu, won't easily work. Plus you have less stances and no weakening, so you'll get ripped up.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

I actually have six hands; one to twist the top off my pop and the other to drink it. Forgot to mention that. It's actually kinda funny since I know Dahnel can kill the aatxe as well, and like me he finds it rather easy to do now as well.

If you want to kill the Bladed Aatxe with my first build just to get an idea of getting just the switching down, use this:

Plague Signet {E}
Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Watch Yourself
Enfeeble
Balanced Stance
Healing Signet
Dolyak Signet

Curses: 10
Tactics: 16
Strength: Remaining points

That was the first build I used, and guess what, I didn't use the wand to build adrenaline. I killed them with just building adrenaline slowly from damage, maintaining the weakness, healing always, and giving conditions back ASAP from Plague Signet. Use Balanced Stance whenever to minimize criticals. Again, I DIDN'T use the wand for that build so you can use it to get the timing down without having to worry about triggering stances at the right moment.

Here is a really old picture of that in action:

Ezekial

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Shadow Knights

W/Mo

Thanks alot, I have been looking for a working UW build

Can't wait to try it out. Just need to buy Enfeeble

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

easy ? yes, easy when being distracted? no

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Of all of Racthoh's six hands, none are dedicated to anti-typo duty

But this is because he actually types using his feet, since his hands are busy. ^^

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

THIS IS So much easier now, with ripstoe being 80 dmg now bc of the update.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

84 damage Ripostes and 79 damage Deadly Ripostes to be exact.

Well, one last video attempt for those struggling with it. Audio commentary on what I'm doing, why I'm doing it, and little tips that will hopefully breed some more success: http://files.filefront.com/UWSoloWit.../fileinfo.html

lambda the great

lambda the great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

here

Almost a Guild

W/N

I finally got the time to go try this. I think I learned it very fast First run killed 2 Aatxe then died. Second I cleared the chamber then died. Third time I swaped out Watch Yourself! for Shield Stance, and cleard out the first monument. Got to the Smites... Zealots fire hurts. w00t awsome build btw.