Game update: December 20

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

Does that mean I can now get a 20% enchant mod for my low-damage serpent axe I was hoping to use as IW weapon without having to spend a fortune on them?

BBoy_Manchild

BBoy_Manchild

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

dayton ohio

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big.Wayne
Cool!

What a *Message* this will send out to the Guild Wars community!
yes the message that people who exploit bugs in the game will pay a hefty price, im glad they turned them into clean axes, exploiters should not of been able to get a return on a little bit of the money they spent on the axe

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

I kept my 20%en crystalline, just incase. but yeah i was expecting atleast 1 mod on it.

still no mentioning of the hammer. but with the last hours i did have it; intsead of bitch'n I powerleveled my ass off. around 100K xp per hour after gali's post here...

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajora
Anyone who bought the axe deserves it. They were attempting to abuse an exploit. And those who sold their axes...well..they exploited the exploiters. Seems like justice to me.
So building a 40% axe off a bug and selling it to someone is not exploiting? Your point is moot, but thanks for the comment.

Ultimate Warrior

Ultimate Warrior

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Canada

LS

W/Mo

HAHAHAHA made 400k on this so I dont care. I didnt lose any money. I knew it was gunna be nerfed sooner or later, so I didnt bother wasting ne money on this.

Ajora

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

There Is A Cow Level

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhuobhe
So building a 40% axe off a bug and selling it to someone is not exploiting? Your point is moot, but thanks for the comment.
Wow...you quoted me and you still didn't notice that I said it was an exploit.

Here, let me bold that I DID say it was an exploit.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajora
Anyone who bought the axe deserves it. They were attempting to abuse an exploit. And those who sold their axes...well..they exploited the exploiters. Seems like justice to me.

Now that I've made you look stupid, anything else?

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

I'm absolutely AMAZED at the stupidity of people.

Even I got suckered into the trap of 'hoping it stays', when I created an axe with +10 armor.

Do you people REALLY think this was an intended aspect of the game? That there would be a small amount of hidden items with double upgrades allowed? Little secrets to be discovered?

Unless you're an amazing dumb ****, you KNEW this item was going to be examined by A-Net when you started on the path of acquiring and modifying it.

..and now you cry foul when the ERROR was fixed within several days of it being made known to the public?

Please avoid the gene pool.

Rule of thumb. Don't gamble unless you can afford to lose it.

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

Sometimes i can't help but laugh at the misfortune of others, this is one of the times...

i believe some people would call this "Wtf pwnage?"... or something like that

sonicLife

sonicLife

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Oklahoma, US

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajora
Not true. The demand for these grips will be non-existant, so the price will drop.
Good point, I was just thinking that the supply of these dropped tremendously, but I guess with the axe out, the demand has too. (where are the Holiday smilies??)

Sw33tLou

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhuobhe
So building a 40% axe off a bug and selling it to someone is not exploiting? Your point is moot, but thanks for the comment.
Very true. I think that ANet should find some way to compensate those who got screwed out of gold.

NekoZ

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Long Island

So Goth We Crap [Bats]

This is why you don't post any of your good little secrets you figure out on a forum.

Raptox

Raptox

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Huntington Station, NY

Une Annee Sans Lumiere [UASL]

E/Me

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the world's worst timing:



Master Bater

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

From He||

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajora
Anyone who bought the axe deserves it. They were attempting to abuse an exploit. And those who sold their axes...well..they exploited the exploiters. Seems like justice to me.
agree

RYCHER969

RYCHER969

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Me/E

Perhaps it was just an issue of incompetant people on your staff without the skills to implement such a change? I seriously doubt it is though, just another example of your apathetic approach to "improvements".

Bravo Rhuobhe !!

I wonder why your post wasnt squashed?

Anyway...thank you anet...GW is uninstalling at this very moment. I am not going to recover 200k...

Although I could sell the 20/20 Rockmolders....hhhmmmmm...nah that wouldnt be fair...what if the buyer entered a $100,000 GW tourney vs a player with a 20/10?

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sw33tLou
Very true. I think that ANet should find some way to compensate those who got screwed out of gold.
Why? Anyone able to afford the axe grips can easily get more gold.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhuobhe
And guys like the one who posted earlier in this tread had the opportunity to sell the axe after he learned of the upcoming nerf and make a nice profit off of it by screwing over a fellow player.
She, not he. And any shrewd investor speculates the market and dumps a losing stock. I didn't have any "insider" information. I had what was publicly available knowledge. My buyer, if he chose to be well-informed, would have had access to the same information. FWIW, my buyer's guild was holding HoH earlier today, before the update. Wonder if there were any 36s spellbreakers on their ghostly hero?

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

Oh wow, its amazing how attached people get to their bugged items... little do they know GW actualy has a story... and quests...

Rico Carridan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Eternal Comrades

E/Mo

Here's how I look at it, when people were buying the axes, they were gambling. You were saying, "Hey, I can buy the axe now, pay maybe 200K for it, then when it gets nerfed, I can sell it again for like 2 million." That was your choice, you would have to be foolish not to have figured out that Anet would nerf this item, so you were obviously hoping that you could take advantage of the removal of the item to make some extra caught.

Guess what? You lost your bet.

To those who are crying for compensation, please, first off, Anet has no way of knowing how much you paid for the axe, so they can't very well just give you a bunch of money for the item. Second, nobody forced you to buy the axe, you bought it of your own free will with your own money, with full knowledge that the axe was bugged, and with full knowledge that Anet would nerf it, eventually. You have no one to blame but yourself.

Rico

Seef II

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

My hammer was nerfed to whiteness, what does everyone mean it wasn't fixed?

In either case you can still go out and get a +20 health +15% vs. charr hammer. No word on whether 40% stacking will work, and if so, how long this one's going to be in for.

There's also a +25% vs. charr and +20 health staff outside nolani from the famed +5 e firewand collector. Any takers?

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate_Gaara
Oh wow, its amazing how attached people get to their bugged items... little do they know GW actualy has a story... and quests...
some dont get off the forums and play it.

jray14

jray14

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

NC, USA

Ohm Mahnee Pedmay [Hoom]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seef II
My hammer was nerfed to whiteness, what does everyone mean it wasn't fixed?
Really? Hmm, I guess the couple of people bragging about their hammers in this thread are either scamming us, or ANet just fixed it. Or you're scamming us .

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seef II
There's also a +25% vs. charr and +20 health staff outside nolani from the famed +5 e firewand collector. Any takers?
I remember seeing some posts stating that the double-wrapping trick doesn't work for this staff.

sirelricthemad

sirelricthemad

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Grotto

Crusaders of Valhalla [Odin]

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by RYCHER969
Perhaps it was just an issue of incompetant people on your staff without the skills to implement such a change? I seriously doubt it is though, just another example of your apathetic approach to "improvements".

Anyway...thank you anet...GW is uninstalling at this very moment. I am not going to recover 200k...

Although I could sell the 20/20 Rockmolders....hhhmmmmm...nah that wouldnt be fair...what if the buyer entered a $100,000 GW tourney vs a player with a 20/10?
Go ahead and uninstall then. You knew it was bugged. You knew it would be nerfed, but you went and spent your 200k anyway. No ones fault but your own so dont go blaming ANet for your mistakes.

wolfy3455

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Asking for compensation for abusing an exploit is like asking for a hitman to pay you back because he was killed in the attempt.

You tried to do something you shouldn't have been able to and got caught. You invested in exploiting. They won't pay you back because the exploit was fixed. Get over it.

Sol_Vie

Sol_Vie

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

"Fixed a battle axe that was incorrectly allowing two axe grips to be attached."

Haha, I wonder which battle axe that is? *think think*

Jaythen Tyradel

Jaythen Tyradel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

SOA scams are already appearing in LA.
>_<
Yeeesh.

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

I don't think compensation, but at the very least, one of the mods should have remained and been salvageable. The people who got screwed were the buyers, not the sellers. The sellers can laugh all the way to the bank, the buyers get to look at a useless item in their inventory. Who's to say that one group of people is guilty and not the other? One group sought to exploit the game mechanics; one group sought to exploit other people. One group has nothing to show for it, one group is rich. Fair? Just like the Denravi weapons, those who have them can either use them at an advantage over others, or sell them for an exorbitant price. Or IWAY working with dead pets. I find it odd that some issues which clearly affect "game balance" don't seem to have much priority, while others do.

chippxero

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

hmm there was just another update, i wonder what it did, maybe the hammers?

Klmpee

Klmpee

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Florida USA :)

[Anti]

W/E

same... im curios.. i hate when thy dont post what it was about

Ajora

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

There Is A Cow Level

W/A

Probably a fix for Tombs. Everytime they update they break something in Tombs.

Just before the update whenever a map timer appeared your party menu disappeared. About to check and see if that's fixed.

Arwen Dejang

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

MoSW Ministry of Silly Walks

R/Mo

Please Read:

http://www.guildwars.com/legal/user-agreement.html

Then Read: (Note rule 18)

http://www.guildwars.com/legal/user-agreement.html


Ok for those of you that dont wish to read it is illegal as in bad no cookie to use exploits, to sell exploits, heck to even mention exploits except directly to GuildWars.com. Wow.. so what does this mean? It means that they dont have to pay you back, they should ban you if you participated, and that you seem to show a lack of caring about the rules. Yea some people are just so mature. Anyway heres the info use it in anyway you would like.

Draracle

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

Suckers, that is what you get for trying to cheat. And don't give me any of that, "I didn't know it was cheating" or "well the game allowed it". You knew it was a cheat and you used it. The uber-nerf to white was a great idea! Yeah A-net!

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arwen Dejang


Ok for those of you that dont wish to read it is illegal as in bad no cookie to use exploits, to sell exploits, heck to even mention exploits except directly to GuildWars.com. Wow.. so what does this mean? It means that they dont have to pay you back, they should ban you if you participated, and that you seem to show a lack of caring about the rules. Yea some people are just so mature. Anyway heres the info use it in anyway you would like.
I like this guy, lets keep him around

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

That 2nd update is interesting. I want to know what it is....

Inureface

Inureface

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Asian in Lousiana

The Endbringers

R/Me

ALl you people bitching about the axe "nerf". You got what was coming. You wanted to exploit a BUG, YES A DAMN BUG and you got the whiplash. The guys who bought the axe first were just as guilty, but had you decided to play fair and not buy the axe, you might not be out 100k+ right now.

Armstrong084

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

ok there was another update just a few minutes ago..what happened there?

Inureface

Inureface

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Asian in Lousiana

The Endbringers

R/Me

Maybe the hammer nerf? I was hoping for some christmas stuff but I guess that'll have to wait

Arwen Dejang

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

MoSW Ministry of Silly Walks

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate_Gaara
I like this guy, lets keep him around
Im not going anywhere I like this game. I also enjoy these forums. The mods do a good job considering how large this place is, really keep up the good work i've modded forums before and its not easy. Thankyou for putting your time and energy into giving this place life, for those out there that contribute those great Faqs, a double thankyou im getting older and well it helps to have things spelled out sometimes. I realy like the Pet Faqs. Its fun to sometimes run with my cat and it helps me to know how.

icemonkey

icemonkey

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

I think this shouldnt be called a nerf at all its a fix, this was a bug you all knew it was going to be fixed and people that weren't blinded by greed knew that if you paid for this axe you would lose at least some money. Lets face it after the fix came your best chance was to be able to salvage the axe for one remaining mod.

I think the worst part that hasnt even been mentioned was the teams(and guild teams too) that went into HoH last weekend with that axe. Dispicable, one team we played was all ele's with that axe and obsidian flesh. Thank god we beat them, i'd post the guild name but we only really realized it at the end of the match and forgot the name.

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

I cant believe some of you are screaming and whining about compensation. Just be glad your asses weren't banned for exploiting a bug.

It was overpowered and needed to be deleted. Now stop crying and go kiss ANET'S butt instead for not banning you.

Brett Kuntz

Brett Kuntz

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anyone who bought the axe's knew they were exploiting the game and deserved to lose all the money they spent on them. I agree with their patch methods 100%.