Official GW Scams Thread (no posting names)
Kook~NBK~
So THAT's why a lot of people I trade with don't hit accept right away! Good tactic to reduce scamming, I guess. Like I've said in another thread - if they modify the trade when it looks like what you've agreed to is there, WATCH OUT!
Shantel Span
I like the thing Runescape does...would make a lot of sense, and heck...that's what i did two months ago as a newbie. Due to inexperience. But i've been looking for scammers all day selling this bloody rune...and i wouldn't call me inexperienced any more. All day i've been looking for the scammers...in order for something like this NOT to happen. And i'm cold dead out of cash, no rune, no way to get anything redeemed. 
Shantel Span
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thank you for handling this case. I'm still very mad at him, as this is the best item i've ever gotten...but i do agree with the way you guys are handling the situation. Talking to others I have found whispers of some auto-mouse programs...ones that hit the "submit" and "accept" button too fast for humans to track. I'd be wary of those, as auto-recruit programs are ruining a lot of games (I also play www.darkthrone.com and a couple others). Maybe you could make it so once someone hits Accept, you have to cancel the trade instead of Modify? |
Gli
It's really easy to make this 'timing scam' impossible.
Whenever one party modifies the trade, the other party should have his end of the bargain backed up to the point where they have to press the submit button. That would make it so you need to press 2 buttons in a row, uninterrupted by the other party fooling around with the modify trade button.
Whenever one party modifies the trade, the other party should have his end of the bargain backed up to the point where they have to press the submit button. That would make it so you need to press 2 buttons in a row, uninterrupted by the other party fooling around with the modify trade button.
Feminist Terrorist
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Originally Posted by JediKnight
Not sure if the following is a scam.
I won an auction on GWG auction section (can't remember item but think it was gold sword of something or other) when i msgd the seller he asked how much for (think it was about 200g) and then said "LOL this item is worth 20K" i replied "why no reserve then?" all i got back was "LOL go find another sucka who knows nuthing about pricing". Very annoyed at wasting time trying to get a cool sword for my character. |
I've been jerked around by people who refused to buy the item they won, usually claiming one of their friends set up their auction account and bid in their name. I think that's a bogus excuse, but what are ya gonna do? I now put a disclaimer in all my auctions to the effect that if you win and don't pay, I'll give you negative feedback. Seems to have worked.
Ado
I posted this in another thread but it applies to this thread as well. Beware of the trick being used there. It will cost you dearly.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...=69723&page=48
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...=69723&page=48
Lord Iowerth
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Originally Posted by Savio
As I said in another thread in Sardelac Sanitarium, Runescape has an effective solution. After both parties click Accept, the trade is no longer modifiable and can only be canceled... can't quick scam that.
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I don't feel quite so bad having played Runescape now that I see Savio has
*runs from the Runescape flamers and hides behind Savio*PS: if anyone ever tells you that you're taking too long with your trade, they are most likely trying to scam you. Same with the "i'm having lag" excuse. Just be patient and tell them to do the same.
Arduin
Something like this was bound to happen
Of course I (Arduinna Lightarrow), was very glad finding a Sup. Vigor, therefore I wanted to sell it ASAP to get me some money for my FOW armor. Most of the time I have to yell WTS for half an hour before I finally are able to sell my stuff, but this girl wispered me just after I posted the message. Maybe because of the trading happening so fast she was able to scam me, because i have seen this trick often, but never fell for it...
After taking some screenshots I realized (to make matter worse) she didn't actually scammed me. She whispered me {35?}, something i wrongly understood for being 35k, not 35g and agreed with a {yup}. In this way we agreed to trade my rune for her 35g only, not making her a scammer....
As a final note, please people, take good notice of the information on the Trade Window, before accepting any offers. The Trade Window is always right. Scammers won't stop scamming, the only way to prevent a scam is being on your toes during the entire trading session. There's just a small percentage who want to scam, better not let them win. It's still a game after all
Well, back to the ettins it is (only 34 ecto to go yet
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(As a side note, why is the Ignore List limited to 10 people only? I need at least room for 50!)
Of course I (Arduinna Lightarrow), was very glad finding a Sup. Vigor, therefore I wanted to sell it ASAP to get me some money for my FOW armor. Most of the time I have to yell WTS for half an hour before I finally are able to sell my stuff, but this girl wispered me just after I posted the message. Maybe because of the trading happening so fast she was able to scam me, because i have seen this trick often, but never fell for it...
After taking some screenshots I realized (to make matter worse) she didn't actually scammed me. She whispered me {35?}, something i wrongly understood for being 35k, not 35g and agreed with a {yup}. In this way we agreed to trade my rune for her 35g only, not making her a scammer....
As a final note, please people, take good notice of the information on the Trade Window, before accepting any offers. The Trade Window is always right. Scammers won't stop scamming, the only way to prevent a scam is being on your toes during the entire trading session. There's just a small percentage who want to scam, better not let them win. It's still a game after all
Well, back to the ettins it is (only 34 ecto to go yet
)(As a side note, why is the Ignore List limited to 10 people only? I need at least room for 50!)
Kassad
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Originally Posted by Arduinna
After taking some screenshots I realized (to make matter worse) she didn't actually scammed me. She whispered me {35?}, something i wrongly understood for being 35k, not 35g and agreed with a {yup}. In this way we agreed to trade my rune for her 35g only, not making her a scammer....
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My Sweet Revenga
Figured I'd post this. Guy tried to scam me about an hour ago and well....
I didn't think he'd hit accept after I changed my offer, I thought he'd just close the trade. I hope he didn't work too hard for those thingies
BTW: mursatt tokens kinda look like ectoplasm, but they're quite worthless, hence scammers try to fool quick buyers into thinking they're ectos.
I didn't think he'd hit accept after I changed my offer, I thought he'd just close the trade. I hope he didn't work too hard for those thingies
BTW: mursatt tokens kinda look like ectoplasm, but they're quite worthless, hence scammers try to fool quick buyers into thinking they're ectos.
Lord Cooper
the whole altheas ashes thing worked for me... i bought them for 200gp cos i was too lazy to go through the quest with my 4 character (n/me) and it worked no problem. i think you just need to have the queat active and the barradin family urn in your inventory. the ashes dont actually end up in the urn they look just like a pile of glittering dust.
so im not sure if its a scam or not as it worked for me.. im just working a warrior through now ill buy the ashes again and see if it works for me again
so im not sure if its a scam or not as it worked for me.. im just working a warrior through now ill buy the ashes again and see if it works for me again
zakaria
i didn't read all the 18 pages of the thread so forgive me if i repeat issue that someone posted before.
i wanted to sell my absorption sup rune (and until now i can't coz alot of scammers they are jumping on sellers of this rune )
me: WTS sup rune of absorption for 70 K..whisp me
him: i'll buy it for 70
me: where are you ?
him: near storage
start trading i find he put 70GP..i didn't accept of course
me: (imagine my reaction for the scam)
me: i took screenshot of our conversation and i'll send it to Anet..kiss the game goodbye.
him: LOL..did you see me typed K in chat...I GUESS NO..GG
i searched between his words if he sayed 70K even once ..but he didn't
so i didn't sent the screenshot for Anet,coz i already accepted selling the rune for 70 in my talk
scammers these days trying to get away with scamming without proof on them,even if you took screenshot.
since then i know how to deal with them,and when they are saying i will buy it for 30 or 25 i always ask them 30 what ?if he scammer he will not reply,if he said 30K he will be noob scammer got himself in trouble or serious buyer want to buy the item that i have.
i wanted to sell my absorption sup rune (and until now i can't coz alot of scammers they are jumping on sellers of this rune )
me: WTS sup rune of absorption for 70 K..whisp me
him: i'll buy it for 70
me: where are you ?
him: near storage
start trading i find he put 70GP..i didn't accept of course
me: (imagine my reaction for the scam)
me: i took screenshot of our conversation and i'll send it to Anet..kiss the game goodbye.
him: LOL..did you see me typed K in chat...I GUESS NO..GG
i searched between his words if he sayed 70K even once ..but he didn't
so i didn't sent the screenshot for Anet,coz i already accepted selling the rune for 70 in my talk
scammers these days trying to get away with scamming without proof on them,even if you took screenshot.
since then i know how to deal with them,and when they are saying i will buy it for 30 or 25 i always ask them 30 what ?if he scammer he will not reply,if he said 30K he will be noob scammer got himself in trouble or serious buyer want to buy the item that i have.
SilentAssassin
hehe, thats a smart scammer there 
acidic artist
ive saw ALOT of people trying to scam me when buying sapphires. they will do the infamous put one in the trade window then hit cancel. then say that their inventory is full. they will then open trade back up and put "heart of ice" or "ice" in the window because they both look exactly like sapphires and they hope you wont pay attention.
FireFox
Armageddon
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Originally Posted by The IOU
Possible Scam?? When you finish ashes quest you get the ashes and keep them even after talking to duke.
Someone tried to sell me those ashes before for like 2p. I didn't do it, but I saved the ashes from the quest to see if I could give it to a guildie and he could just hand duke the ashes and get 2k exp. It didn't work, so was thinking people are trying to sell the ashes as a scam? Just need this confirmed... |
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Originally Posted by relientK_fan
This is confirmed, and my friend and I fell victim to it. He fell first, then sold it to me... I am mad at him right now.
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This isnt a scam, Ive done the Ashes quest like this 3 times now and I bought them for around 200g each time. Its an easy and quick way to get 2k exp.
SilentAssassin
yes, its not a scam
BUT keep in mind you have to finish the first quest (you need to find her first, or whats left of her )
The second quest you can just use the ashes
BUT keep in mind you have to finish the first quest (you need to find her first, or whats left of her
)The second quest you can just use the ashes
berko
Here is a guy that tried to offer me 50 GP for a 20% Sword Pommel of Enchanting.......
Between that's not his real name but I thought it suited him.
Between that's not his real name but I thought it suited him.
Zephro
People that always go to ToA will probably know who I'm talking about.
He's always there at ToA, offering to buy ecto at strangely higher prices. He will of course, pull the old 'Gold instead of Plat hoping the trader wouldn't notice' scam every time. Practically every regular in ToA knows that he scams, and probably more reports have been sent in. Some newbies will STILL get cheated though, seen a few 'omg wtf wheres my money you *****' while idling there.
Now here's the kicker: I reported him 3 times with screenshots of the attempted scam over 3 weeks, and he's STILL THERE. I'm sure many others have sent in their reports too.
My question is this:
Is ANet slacking? Or simply doesn't care about this? Because I'm quite sure that newbies are still being scammed by this retard. Yet he's still there, trying to pull off his scams. Go take a look tomorrow, I'm sure you'll see him there.
I'll go take another last screen and report it tomorrow though, that will finally shed lighton this whole situation.
He's always there at ToA, offering to buy ecto at strangely higher prices. He will of course, pull the old 'Gold instead of Plat hoping the trader wouldn't notice' scam every time. Practically every regular in ToA knows that he scams, and probably more reports have been sent in. Some newbies will STILL get cheated though, seen a few 'omg wtf wheres my money you *****' while idling there.
Now here's the kicker: I reported him 3 times with screenshots of the attempted scam over 3 weeks, and he's STILL THERE. I'm sure many others have sent in their reports too.
My question is this:
Is ANet slacking? Or simply doesn't care about this? Because I'm quite sure that newbies are still being scammed by this retard. Yet he's still there, trying to pull off his scams. Go take a look tomorrow, I'm sure you'll see him there.
I'll go take another last screen and report it tomorrow though, that will finally shed lighton this whole situation.
Valdaran Longfoot
It takes time to ban people, even with the proof handed to them. Every game I have ever played (ex. Diablo2, Halo2 live) and it can take weeks for the ban to go into effect.
In diablo2, months would go by before hackers were banned, and these were for VERY obvious hacks.
Just give it time.
In diablo2, months would go by before hackers were banned, and these were for VERY obvious hacks.
Just give it time.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Zephro
Now here's the kicker: I reported him 3 times with screenshots of the attempted scam over 3 weeks, and he's STILL THERE. I'm sure many others have sent in their reports too.
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here is an earlier quote from Gaile on this.they are busy.
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I wanted to share a bit about in-game moderation, since I've noticed a few comments here and there lately about how some players feel that there is a lack of action against those who misbehave in Guild Wars. I wanted to give you an illustration of how such statements are just not accurate and of how many team members are working, around the clock, to make sure the Guild Wars game world is a pleasant place to be. This morning, I got an email with a screenshot that showed someone impersonating an NCsoft employee. I was told in the email about other issues of concern, like extreme player abuse, attempted scamming, etc. So I pulled the logs, and sure enough, there was a lot of really bad behavior in the half an hour surrounding the reported time and date: We had cursing. We had flaming with cursing. We had cursing in response to the flaming and cursing. We had racism, or comments about another culture that were demeaning and entirely inappropriate. We had attempted scams. We had impersonation of an NCsoft employee. We had a bunch of people who were so bad, it made me wince. And you could tell, from the logs, that a lot of players were very offended by what was going on (as they should be!). At the same time that I was reviewing the screenshot and email, the Support Team was also checking out the matter. From our reviews, 11 accounts were actioned. That's right: In one district, in a period that spanned fewer than 30 minutes, eleven (11!) people crossed the line and suffered the consequences with account blocks and, in one case, a very probable account ban. Please know that we may not be everywhere, at any given time. But know that we are around, and we'll act if we see something bad going on. Know that we will take your reports seriously, for you can be our eyes and ears to the larger game world. And it is in all our best interests -- gamer, developer, publisher -- to make Guild Wars the best possible place to play. So if you see bad behavior, send us a report. It's easy to remember: support.guildwars.com. The game world hosts players from all over the globe, and not all are 100% nice and not all relationships are buttercups and rainbows. 'Sok, we're human beings, understood. Sometimes there is a little warmth to an exchange. Sometimes someone slips and says something a little mean. I guess I'd say that reports should be about degrees of misbehavior. Someone putting up a sales message in All Chat? Oh, let it go, it's not worth taking Support staff off of the really significant issues. Someone using a mildly offensive term? Well, personally I'd let it slide unless it was repeated. What I'm saying is that significant levels of abuse, swearing, antagonism, harassment, bad names, racism, and offensive sexual commentary should be reported. Thanks for helping us out. We're on the case. __________________ Gaile Gray Community Relations Manager ArenaNet Guild Wars Site & ArenaNet Site |
Athis Strider
Yeah I not only seen him , but he tried to scam me also. I log on at lunch time from work, so I have 45 minutes to sell some items from the night before. He's been doing that for at least 2 and a half months that I know of. I was selling an ecto for 7k at the time and he puts 7 gold. Like evryone else I just told him to go f himself and went back to work. He never got my ecto.
I thought it was an isolated incident.
I thought it was an isolated incident.
Comrade-Joe
with the cursing one thats kinda why they put filters in the game so i dun understand that one
Anarki
Well guess why A-Net doesnt give a shit, it's because GW is no monthly fee game so not enough money for service - no service is no money back once you get scammed.
Start sending them donations monthly maybe they will care.
If that's gonna make you feel happier I played Lineage 2, and when my friend got scammed for a crappy sword he talked to a mod and got his sword back, but when my gf got scammed for a quite expensive weapon they didnt do shit. That scammer made her cry and if I ever put my hands on him or that mod...
I still remember scammers name after almost 2 years.
Anyway the point is, even MMORPGs with monthly fees and mods everywhere won't always give your stuff back.
Start sending them donations monthly maybe they will care.
If that's gonna make you feel happier I played Lineage 2, and when my friend got scammed for a crappy sword he talked to a mod and got his sword back, but when my gf got scammed for a quite expensive weapon they didnt do shit. That scammer made her cry and if I ever put my hands on him or that mod...
I still remember scammers name after almost 2 years.
Anyway the point is, even MMORPGs with monthly fees and mods everywhere won't always give your stuff back.
Loralai
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with the cursing one thats kinda why they put filters in the game so i dun understand that one
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Angel Develin
I'm been scamed for the first time in 9 months, it's not that much only 500g,
the deal was 1k for yaks from ascolan and this dude makes a group, then 2 leave and I stay, he then add his friend and tell me that he does not have enogh time to run me so he's friend is going to run.
after the first zone out from ascolan, he asks for the 1k, I tell him that I pay when we get there, he stays and asks for some cash or he wont run, we make a deal for 250g now, 250g at piken, 250g at courthouse, 250g at yaks, he w8 for a min then accepts, he runs to piken, get the cash and leave me, thats 500g for a run from ascolan to piken o_O, he and his friend ignor me right away, so I make some screenshots and keep there name and every time I see them in ascolan I tell every 1 what they are doing, the funny part is now they have a enemy that wont leave them alone and has them in friends list so they can run but they cant hide and that for only 500g.
the deal was 1k for yaks from ascolan and this dude makes a group, then 2 leave and I stay, he then add his friend and tell me that he does not have enogh time to run me so he's friend is going to run.
after the first zone out from ascolan, he asks for the 1k, I tell him that I pay when we get there, he stays and asks for some cash or he wont run, we make a deal for 250g now, 250g at piken, 250g at courthouse, 250g at yaks, he w8 for a min then accepts, he runs to piken, get the cash and leave me, thats 500g for a run from ascolan to piken o_O, he and his friend ignor me right away, so I make some screenshots and keep there name and every time I see them in ascolan I tell every 1 what they are doing, the funny part is now they have a enemy that wont leave them alone and has them in friends list so they can run but they cant hide and that for only 500g
fiery
Screenshots help, but A.net seems to suspend on alligations of A.net workers or the evidence in chat logs.
Mr D J
One of around 2 people that were smart enough to scam me was a Chinese Farmer. I went to ToA to buy ecto and he/she was there saying WTS: Ecto 7k so I go like "How many do you have?" and he/she says "3 ecto". I tell him/her that I want to buy it, he/she puts in 3 ecto and I put in 21k, accept, he/she declines. I automatically think that this person has 100k in inventory to i tell him/her to put the money in storage. The reply I get is "???" which is pretty common for these "Farmers". I was explaining him/her to do that and we got around 4 trades cancelled but then this person puts in 1 ecto and me, annoyed of explaining put in 21k, thinking that 3 ectos are there already after 5 cancelled trades and accept... 1 Glob of Ectoplasm for 21k... but I wasnt really disapointed. What is 21k after all?
Diablo???
3 more ectos.
the sub
This happens to me a few minutes ago, a guy steal me 70k.
He put a message saying that he sells a Victos Bulwark for 75k, I whisp and offer 70k, he says ok and say to i go to Storage.
When i arrive storage he offer me Victos Bulwark, i offer 70k and accept.
Then he says that has carrying much money and need to go deposit in Storage.
I wait...
When he come from storage he change bulwark for an shadow shield, and accepted.
And after put me in Ignore list!
When i put the message in chat window to inform the other players to take care, he goes off line!
Damn, 70k isnt easy to get!
He put a message saying that he sells a Victos Bulwark for 75k, I whisp and offer 70k, he says ok and say to i go to Storage.
When i arrive storage he offer me Victos Bulwark, i offer 70k and accept.
Then he says that has carrying much money and need to go deposit in Storage.
I wait...
When he come from storage he change bulwark for an shadow shield, and accepted.
And after put me in Ignore list!
When i put the message in chat window to inform the other players to take care, he goes off line!
Damn, 70k isnt easy to get!
TheMosesPHD
The trade window scammers are annoying, but A-net prolly doesn't do much about them because you could have double checked each time the trade window opens. And I can't remember his name, but I totally remember coming across the ecto scammer guy once. The way I protect against the trade window scam is that I never give anyone the benifit of the doubt. If they cancel once I go on alert, if they cancel twice I start pming them angry things. 3 times I go all insane. If it turns out they weren't trying to scam and they were just making human mistakes, I'll just simply apologize :P When I'm buying things I also am in no rush as I scroll my mouse over the item I'm buying, wait for the info box to pop up, and take plenty of time staring at it before I hit accept.
lord_shar
Here's a simple trick I use to avoid scams... it has NEVER failed me:
Simply keep your cursor on their side of the trade window over the 1st square all the time, every time, from start to finish, until you actually press accept. Take your time and never rush - examine all of his items if more than one is involved. Since their item's stats are up all the time due to your cursor always floating over their goods, they can never pull an invisible switch, even if they cancel and restart the trade window.
Always treat the other trader as a stranger and keep him at arm's length. Yes, real-life friends are exceptions since you can pay him back with slashed tires, but that's a different issue altogether
Simply keep your cursor on their side of the trade window over the 1st square all the time, every time, from start to finish, until you actually press accept. Take your time and never rush - examine all of his items if more than one is involved. Since their item's stats are up all the time due to your cursor always floating over their goods, they can never pull an invisible switch, even if they cancel and restart the trade window.
Always treat the other trader as a stranger and keep him at arm's length. Yes, real-life friends are exceptions since you can pay him back with slashed tires, but that's a different issue altogether
bart
I remember the first time i got scammed... sigh.. it was my first ever run from from Yak's Bend to Beacons. nobody wanted the run at the time except for 1 guy. so i thought "what the hell, he'll be my first customer". So i set out and ran all the way there and when we arrived he said "Thanks, i'll pay u later"... dang... i was stunned... my first customer and i got scammed... i've never ran anyone since...
QoH
Ahh i got scammed today the first time...., well luckily its only 595 gold, but who the hell thinks that someone scams when buying crafting materials. omg thats pathetic
Allanon Dark
While I was in ToA I saw someone posting "WTS sapphires", since im collecting them i thought that i would take a bite at the offer. I asked how many he had, he said 24. I offerd 72k for 15 he accepted. Now, on to the scam. When he put the gems into the window but upon puting my cursor over them it read "Heart of Ice" which have the exact same item skin as Sapphires. Now i believe this guy got scammed into buying these "sapphires" himself because he then proceeded to get extrememly pissed (could be a good actor, idk). So just be on the look out for people selling sapphires, the may be Hearts of Ice.
thrice
This can be also done with Ice from the crushers quest in the Galen Trask SF Quest
sno
Not a new scam, people have been doing this for ages :P
lord_shar
I'm also starting to find more 55-monks who ask for 50/50 ecto splits, only to run off with all the ecto should they happen to get all of them. This seems to be even more common with non-english-speaking monk farmers on US-servers
Ayane Kenshin
there is a certain guild out there that takes ppl down to uw for spiders makes em pay b4 the spider is capped and kills it after they get the money so you cant gt your spider which btw i paid 25k for. ive reported to gw staff but they wont do anything so watch for these guys they do it all the time
Homicidal Brainiac
Well, there was this guy who wanted to buy my Rago's Flame staff for 60K, so when I went to trade with him, he offered 60K (no suprise there) then, when I went to accept, he modifyed his offer, making it 60 GOLD instead, and I fell for it.
This happened to me NOT once, but twice, so people beware, oh, and also, NEVER sell ur items at Warcamp, because that's where all the scammers hang out, IMO.
This happened to me NOT once, but twice, so people beware, oh, and also, NEVER sell ur items at Warcamp, because that's where all the scammers hang out, IMO.