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Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

29 Dec 2005 at 17:26 - 402

Quote:

Originally Posted by relaxed

what bothers me even more is that i did report this scammer with anet and they responded saying they would investigate him and the log files (which will obviously show his scamming since he had the nerve of trying to sell it back to me for 4ectos + 30k) and he's on today. so no action seems to be taken

hi

just for your information here are the following items from GW itself

when you report someone(with the asked for information) they will investigate.

your report on them goes to the end of a long line that may take days/weeks to get to but it will be investigated.

due to privacy regulations you will not be notified of the results.

they may be banned for a few days a week/month later.

if they have a proven track record of multiple offences they will lose the account (perma ban).

that is why it is important to report scammers (with screenshots on any big deal) because if your report is not the one to permaban him/her maybe the next one will do it.

also MCS on this forum has a long track record of being the middleman on over 100k trades to prevent fraud.

relaxed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

29 Dec 2005 at 19:14 - 403

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

hi

just for your information here are the following items from GW itself

when you report someone(with the asked for information) they will investigate.

your report on them goes to the end of a long line that may take days/weeks to get to but it will be investigated.

due to privacy regulations you will not be notified of the results.

they may be banned for a few days a week/month later.

if they have a proven track record of multiple offences they will lose the account (perma ban).

that is why it is important to report scammers (with screenshots on any big deal) because if your report is not the one to permaban him/her maybe the next one will do it.

also MCS on this forum has a long track record of being the middleman on over 100k trades to prevent fraud.

Actually, their reply was rather prompt and they "reviewed the game logs of this incident and taken the appropriate action based on the information from the logs". This incident is now set to a "closed" status and the player is still online.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

29 Dec 2005 at 19:23 - 404

Quote:

Originally Posted by relaxed

Actually, their reply was rather prompt and they "reviewed the game logs of this incident and taken the appropriate action based on the information from the logs". This incident is now set to a "closed" status and the player is still online.

as i said.

each incident adds up and maybe the next one.

the important thing is he/she is getting a rap sheet that will catch up with them. (Gaile said so and i believe her)

Griff Mon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In the Elfen Forests of Washington State

Damage Radius

N/

29 Dec 2005 at 20:54 - 405

I don't understand the complaints about the Piken's Square Scam. I did it and got the XP for it with one of my characters. Of course, I got the quest before I got the ashes.

On another note, I've been accused of scamming by whispering players by offering to buy Char Hides for 20-30 GP. This is 5 times the amount the merchant offers. If they sell it to me, fine. If any asks what I want with it, I tell them I trade the hides for other stuff. True enough, but not complete.

When pressed, I tell them to sell me their hides or go away, or if in a charitable mood, I tell them exactly what I am doing with the collector in Ascalon.

There is a line between scamming and making money because you have more complete information than the other player. They are till doing better with me than the merchant, so they should be happy.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

29 Dec 2005 at 21:34 - 406

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff Mon

I
On another note, I've been accused of scamming by whispering players by offering to buy Char Hides for 20-30 GP. This is 5 times the amount the merchant offers.
They are till doing better with me than the merchant, so they should be happy.

4 hides to collector for 1 fur off to rare trader sell for 200-220 gold

NICE PROFIT MARGIN GUY

hey i will give you a whole 2 plat for those 100 hides.........no gyp at all

heck i will make you real happy by taking all you have at 35 a hide ....even better than merchant

Lord Iowerth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!)

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

R/Mo

29 Dec 2005 at 21:46 - 407

Yeah, you know if i buy black dye in pre-searing for 2 gp, heck that's more than they'd get from the merchant! They should be happy to sell to me at that price

Lichtenberg

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mass Delusion [LARP]

30 Dec 2005 at 00:23 - 408

Quote:

Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

lol i know i shouldn't had but i cheated a bot

hehehehehe it was so funny, bought this okish sheild for 50 gold. and this nice sword for 1k.

how can u tell if somethings a bot or not?

Guild Wars Junkie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Stompers.

R/Mo

31 Dec 2005 at 12:00 - 409

People are working on double scams now...Last night I typed

WTS wood and silver dyes.

2 guys consantly pm'ed me saying

''I'll buy 4 silver for 1.2k please, i really need them''

''I'll buy 4 wood for 1.2k please, i really need them''

Obviously I wasn't interested in the first offer, just the second. But these scammers kept on opening my trade offering 1.2k for the silver then closing trade, the other guy would open trade and ask for 4 wood, then he'd close and the other would open trade asking for silver. In the end I told both of them to RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO off, I'm not selling silver or wood.

Jiao Yang

Lunar Rabbit

Join Date: Dec 2005

31 Dec 2005 at 12:19 - 410

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guild Wars Junkie

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO

Hey it may be a little off topic but i have seen this siad b4.. what does it mean?

Guild Wars Junkie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Stompers.

R/Mo

31 Dec 2005 at 23:16 - 411

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiao Yang

Hey it may be a little off topic but i have seen this siad b4.. what does it mean?

When you type the ''F'' word, that's what shows up. It's like a word censor the mods/admins are capable of doing.

lama_lord36

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

belgium

Order of the Exiles [bann]

P/W

02 Jan 2006 at 12:30 - 412

I never saw this scam but i just notice it when i was rune farming. I got a sup warrior rune i id and it was sup tactics when i go tot he rune trader i saw that the icons of a sup tactics are just the same as the icon of a sup abosorption so my advice is never buy an un-id absorption rune!!! I SAY NEVER!!!!

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

02 Jan 2006 at 18:24 - 413

Quote:

Originally Posted by lama_lord36

I never saw this scam but i just notice it when i was rune farming. I got a sup warrior rune i id and it was sup tactics when i go tot he rune trader i saw that the icons of a sup tactics are just the same as the icon of a sup abosorption so my advice is never buy an un-id absorption rune!!! I SAY NEVER!!!!

All Warrior superior runes have the same graphic. Absorption is a Warrior rune so it looks the same.

Big.Wayne

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/Mo

02 Jan 2006 at 18:30 - 414

Quote:

Originally Posted by lama_lord36

I got a sup warrior rune i id and it was sup tactics when i go tot he rune trader i saw that the icons of a sup tactics are just the same as the icon of a sup abosorption so my advice is never buy an un-id absorption rune!!! I SAY NEVER!!!!

Indeed!

However a Superior Vigor has a unique graphic so its quite safe to buy one of these unidentified.

Jas

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Piken Square - American District 1

The Everchanging Path [lost]

Mo/E

05 Jan 2006 at 07:33 - 415

Quote:

Originally Posted by butcherboy

The "scam" I fell for until last night was selling anything that looked powerful to the merchant before identifying it. He may offer up 2gp, but after an ID it is usually worth 4-20gp (pre-sear stuff). So ID before selling and you should come out ahead. ID means you also get a price for the item in gp.

Ahem... ID'ing of presearing stuff costs usually more than what is the value of the ID'd stuff (ID-kit = 100 gp/20 uses... each use = 5gp). Usually you just get a 2gp item to be worth 4gp.

I just sell Pre-Searing stuff away without even thinking of keeping them (except dyes and some other special stuff).

LanceEzekiel

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Gothic Embrace

N/W

05 Jan 2006 at 12:16 - 416

Me: WTS Brohn's holy rod
scammer with obvious spam-bot name tries to add to party
Scammer: i by
Me: (price)
Scammer: k
trade is opened, scammer offers 80k, I hit accept and he cancels trade
Scammer: inventory full sry 1 sec
item is offered again, scammer offers 80g
Me: Nice try lol
I cancel trade he logs out

this dude gets around

{integral}

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Just down the road.

Mo/

09 Jan 2006 at 22:15 - 417

Well, speaking of Brohn's Holy Rod scams..... I wouldn't be surprised if this was the same person:

FalconDance

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

...deep within the sylvan splendor...

Order of the Migrating Coconuts [ALBA]

26 Jan 2006 at 15:21 - 418

This morning,husband fell victim to a scammer---and he did everything 'right' in the trade (no g instead of k offered, etc)

He was selling a Sup Absorb. The guy obviously works with a partner (upon reflection) since husband was in Drok's selling and the guy whispered him from LA dist 1. So husband, thinking it odd but ok, went to LA 1. The guy put up 95K, husband put up the rune. Husband double checked the gold amount offered and clicked accept. The guy said hold on, he was "having lag" (which we can certainly empathize with the last few days). The trade was attempted 3 times, lending creedence to the lag story.

The third time, husband clicked accept, again ensuring that the gold was present. The other person promptly retrieved his gold from the window and acccepted the rune without payment. Husband then tried to open trade or otherwise get his gold, the person remained "in trade" except for a brief moment when he showed husband a Rune of Sup Hammer and then fled the game altogether.

You can bet Anet got a report on this! Problem is, LA was so busy that by the time husband collected his thoughts (just a few seconds), it was too late to get a screenshot of the text of the transaction. All the trade and chat had already dissolved the words.

Cologne

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/W

26 Jan 2006 at 22:04 - 419

You guys wanna hear a pleasant scam story? Get comforatble, it's pretty long.

Okay, so I have been poor in the game since I began GW (it's been like 4 months now, and I still only have 1k in storage) because I usually spend as I get. Anyways, that's besides the point. So, my friend says I should go into the Underworld if I want to get decent money. He said he solos UW, gets ecto, then sells for 10k each (you know, back when people craved ecto).

So I was like, that's cool, and decided to travel to ToA. Well, I had my ranger at this time, and so I joined a team. All 8 of us traveled into the UW, and we died after the first group of Aatxe. Me, being a noob, decided, "Ah, well this is fun, let me go again. LFG: UW". Got another team of 8, and so on, until the builds came out, you know, SS nec + 55 monk, 3- or 4-man trap teams, so on, and so forth.

So, I took up trapping. I already had capped spike trap and had all the others. Bought Mantra Of Resolve, and brought along EoE. It was really fun, luring the Aatxe into our deadly traps, and then lag as soon as all of them went off. I loved this for 3 days, then my friend had this crazy idea to make a "personal minion factory" and farm for greens. I was like, "Are you kidding?"... but little did I know that by me being designated to be the saccer, it would later prove to bring me where I am now.

I made my Necro, and capped Blood is Power, and bought all the Superior runes to get my health down to 105, and finally got a -50hp offhand to get me down to 55 health. So, with that done, I was able to be a saccer. My friend was making his MM, and his friend was making a Rezmer, and I think he was gonna have the Heal Area monk be the rezmer as well, but anyways, this never happened. So, I had this saccer that I spent decent money on to make, but with nothing to do with him.

So, I just happened to be in ToA when we had favor, and I saw the message "55 monk LF SS / SV NECRO for 2-man smite run!" First of all, I didn't know what a smite run was. Secondly, I saw the words UW, and next thing I know, I'm whispering the guy asking him what a SS / SV nec was and what a Smite run was. He answered me, and thus I found out about a possible way to use my necro. So, I bought different armor so I was at normal health, but could still go back to 55 in case I was ever needed (I did some saccing for MF in HoH too). It was a good thing I did keep that armor.

So, I was in a rut. Spells costed 1k each by this time, and so I got some money from someone, and capped SS. Then I bought all my other skills needed, and was ready. So I went back to ToA and searched for a 55 monk. I found one, and then I paid him 500g and we traveled to the dark, eerie Underworld. My monk tanked, I casted SS like crazy, and it was fun. Then, the best thing had ever happened to me: I got my very first ecto.

I was excited telling everyone I know, and then when I was done basking in my glory, I traveled to Ascalon City to sell it. I sent my announcment, "WTS 1 ECTO: 10k" and I got a whisper within 5 minutes. The guy tells me he would like to buy my ecto. In all honesty, I don't remember his name.

So, I was jumping with excitement, but I tried not to show it in my reply. "Sure, I'm by merchant." So he came. I saw that 10k flash up there in the trade window, and my heart stopped. I had the chills... this would be the most money I've ever had... EVER. So, I put my ecto into the slot, clicked on "submit" and clicked on "accept". Then I said, "Thx." I was so happy, my first ecto! The highest amount of money I've ever had at one time! So, I had already made my own guild (it's really cheap, only 100g) and so I finally was able to get my cape!

I traveled straight from my customer to the Guild Emblemer in Ascalon City. I designed the best cape ever. Then I hit "accept" and it said I didn't have enough money.

I started panicing... I had heard of scams before, but never thought it would be done to me! So I figured, "Well, maybe it was too much money to go into my inventory," so I checked my storage. My regular 29g was in there. My heart nearly stopped. I had been scammed.

10g shown up in my Inventory when I opened it... Not 10k. I was furious, but I had never been scammed before, so I didn't know what to do. I began telling everyone, "OMG I WAS JUST SCAMMED!" and no one seemed to care. So I tried to whisper the guy back and say "Um, can I please have my 10k?" After I pressed "enter" a green message popped up that said, **** is currently offline. From that point forward, I decided I was going to take a screenshot of every transaction I make... Either that, or be careful not to fall for the same scam again. Someone reffered to it as a "quick switch" when I asked what happened and how he scammed me. I'm not going to tell anyone how to do it, because I believe scamming someone is a just a very low thing to do. I know how bad it hurts to be scammed out of something you are really excited about, and I will never aid in scams either.

Moral of the story: Make sure you don't get fooled by scammers. Know your stuff before you sell something, like it's price. You can ask someone in-game or simply post your item on the forum here titled "price check". Don't fall victim to a scam. You won't like it at all.

Peace.

bebe

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

http://tinyurl.com/4g5ueb8

Put the peanut in the peanut hole!

26 Jan 2006 at 22:42 - 420

some guy shouting in trade channel selling "gifts" that when you open a santa hat opens up and gets customized to you name. he was selling around.. 10k and 18k for 2?

of course me reading this shouted scammer and he left in couple of seconds.

for those who didn't know the "gifts" he claims to have were the "wintery gifts" from the wintersday event. ><

Jiao Yang

Lunar Rabbit

Join Date: Dec 2005

26 Jan 2006 at 22:49 - 421

@ Cologne
*wipes tears from face*
aww

i wouldnt know what its like to be scammed or have absolutley no money as i have never been in those situations. But that was just very unlucky for you and even with evidence there would be nothing u could do as after all, you accepted.
I have always been careful with trades but many ppl have tried to scam me. Just take your time... they wont slowly take money out as the clock ticks so feel no need to rush every trade.

StueyG

Kamaspama

Join Date: Dec 2005

Nunya Bizness

pupu / SLAP

W/

27 Jan 2006 at 08:29 - 422

just thought I'd say the latest big scam I've seen alot is people selling IDS swords.. (Icy Dragon Swords) I've never had it completed but I've had tons of people try to pull it on me. Anyway, they will either put an IDS up first thing, and then say something messed up and then switch, or they first thing put a dyed Fiery Dragon Sword. So if you go to buy an Icy Dragon Sword make sure that's what you are getting :P

Bwsk8

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/E

27 Jan 2006 at 23:37 - 423

One thing that makes the quick switch easier is that once you click the trade goes through, it does not wait for you to release the button like internet explorer does. So someone who is used to using the internet might click accept before they have finished looking at the trade, not realizing it will go through instantly and be scammed. At least that is what happened to me a while back, I just never mentioned about the clicking part before.

Fatty Fatty Boomballati

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Colorado

True Foundation

Mo/Me

28 Jan 2006 at 01:50 - 424

Only people that have ever scammed me where Drok runners.
Have never gotten run anywhere since....

Ure Maker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

yer right....

Suicide Bunnies

R/Me

28 Jan 2006 at 02:56 - 425

Tip:

when selling ectos (most high valued items) u will get geniun purchases from people getting there FoW armour.

but once in a while some1 will say "wat u want for the ecto and how many u got" now for all u know with these people could b genuin but mabey not. i got my first of many ecto drops and advertised 2 sell 1 for 8K(which was goin rate at that time) get a few whips, so i accept the first and reply "im at storage" so they arrive and trade now, this is were they try to scam u they say "cana we hurry i need 2 log off soon",

the trade window comes up you place your'e ecto the spend 2 mins with nothing happens u get impatient u say "wats the hold up comon" u see there money being offer u hit accept hit straight away he/she hits accept sale over. now u look at the new money you made NOT u notice u got G instead of P(platnium)

so watch out

this nearly happened 2 me, but i look at everything before selling so watch these scams

Ure Maker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

yer right....

Suicide Bunnies

R/Me

28 Jan 2006 at 03:09 - 426

Quote:

Originally Posted by FalconDance

This morning,husband fell victim to a scammer---and he did everything 'right' in the trade (no g instead of k offered, etc)

He was selling a Sup Absorb. The guy obviously works with a partner (upon reflection) since husband was in Drok's selling and the guy whispered him from LA dist 1. So husband, thinking it odd but ok, went to LA 1. The guy put up 95K, husband put up the rune. Husband double checked the gold amount offered and clicked accept. The guy said hold on, he was "having lag" (which we can certainly empathize with the last few days). The trade was attempted 3 times, lending creedence to the lag story.

The third time, husband clicked accept, again ensuring that the gold was present. The other person promptly retrieved his gold from the window and acccepted the rune without payment. Husband then tried to open trade or otherwise get his gold, the person remained "in trade" except for a brief moment when he showed husband a Rune of Sup Hammer and then fled the game altogether.

You can bet Anet got a report on this! Problem is, LA was so busy that by the time husband collected his thoughts (just a few seconds), it was too late to get a screenshot of the text of the transaction. All the trade and chat had already dissolved the words.

BTW if u hit the ` button next to the 1 u can scroll up and find the text ure looking for

TIP fo ya

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

28 Jan 2006 at 04:04 - 427

Being scammed is part of the game, heck I've scammed a ton of people.. (Do I think I'm a good person for it, No.) But hey, maybe I RP as a backstabbing swindler? Its a valid excuse.

Shiro Shiverblade

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/N

28 Jan 2006 at 09:32 - 428

Thanks for letting me no this, now I wont be tricked by it.

Lets Get to Healing

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

You want see?

True Gods of War [True]

Mo/W

28 Jan 2006 at 10:26 - 429

Ive made lots of money accidently putting up gold instead of plat.

JediKnight

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

A Galaxy Far Far Away

W/R

28 Jan 2006 at 17:11 - 430

Howdy
I have personally bought 2 sets of Altheas ashes from players with no problems at all. The way to avoid this scam is that the ashes look just like a pile of glittering dust, but read as "Altheas ashes Quest Item" when moused.
They will never be in an urn.

Not sure if the following is a scam.
I won an auction on GWG auction section (can't remember item but think it was gold sword of something or other) when i msgd the seller he asked how much for (think it was about 200g) and then said "LOL this item is worth 20K" i replied "why no reserve then?" all i got back was "LOL go find another sucka who knows nuthing about pricing".

Very annoyed at wasting time trying to get a cool sword for my character.

Lady Frost Bite

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

america

Dark Wing Cadre

N/W

28 Jan 2006 at 17:42 - 431

Altheas ashes are not a scam per say. if you do buy them off someone again they will look like glittering dust an read as "altheas ashes quest item"most of the time to make them work for you if you already have the quest you just need to leave piken and then go back.if you don't already have the quest then make sure you get it(if you don't have the quest and your trying to get the ashes to work they won't)

Masseur

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Southern California

R/Mo

28 Jan 2006 at 18:53 - 432

That one person who said they accepted and then the person who they were trading with took their gold off and then accepted.....first off, at that point your accept is no longer there and you'd have to accept again with no money showing on their side. Any time someone hits modify, if the other side had accepted, it's not longer accepted, it makes you resubmit and reaccept, so hard to get scammed this way unless you're not paying attention. Just FYI.

Shantel Span

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Knights of King Thorn [Mad]

A/N

30 Jan 2006 at 06:42 - 433

Message sent to Support:

Quote:

Cheater's name: X
My name at the time: Scarlet Span
Main name: Shantel Spam
Time of incident: 8:51 PM, Mountain Time
Place: District 1 of Lion's Arch

I had found and salvaged a Superior Rune of Absorption earlier today (around 3:00 pm) and was looking for a buyer. He offered to bu y, and i ased for 80k. He said 75k. I said OK, and we proceeded to open a trade window. He then submitted 75 platinum, as he said. I submitted the rune and hit Accept. Before I could do a thing he changed to 75g and hit Accept, leaving me no chance to NOT be scammed.

Message reply:

Quote:

Hello Eric,

Thanks for getting in touch with the Guild Wars Support Team regarding a potential rules violation.

We will use the information you have provided to investigate whether a violation of the rules has occurred. Please note, however, that we are unable to reimburse you for any items or gold lost as the result of a transaction with another player. Also, all information related to the discovery and disciplining of an account will only be discussed between the violator and customer support. If we do find that a rule or rules were broken, you will not hear of any rulings related to the incident and the account(s) involved.

We appreciate your support of Guild Wars and your interest in keeping the game world pleasant for all players.

Regards,
The Guild Wars Support Team

:'(

That about covers it. I'm pissed as hell. Been talking to no one but newbies, people offering 10-20k, and scammers. And i've been careful each time. but NOOOOOOO it didn't work.

:'(

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

30 Jan 2006 at 06:43 - 434

dude no posting names...delet this or remove names before a mod sees it

and no offense it seems like you need to learn not to be so click happy...the only one that scam us is ourselves...

Gildor Took

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Australia, 3rd rock from the sun

Mo/

30 Jan 2006 at 06:45 - 435

if he modifies the trade window don't you have to hit accept again?

Shantel Span

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Knights of King Thorn [Mad]

A/N

30 Jan 2006 at 06:49 - 436

A friend just told me that...he must have hit Sumbit, i hit Accept, he hit Submit and Accept...

doesn't change anything... :'( i'm still out a LOT of money...and that's the first gold OR decent purple item i've gotten in three days...

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

30 Jan 2006 at 06:50 - 437

Yes. Most likely the scammer changed it between him seeing the 75k and him clicking on Accept; there is obviously a bit of time between those two events. It's why I've given up trying to sell to anyone and merching all of my stuff.

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

30 Jan 2006 at 06:55 - 438

ok, I take back what I said earlier because now I'm just confused...some one explain this in more detail for me please as it sounds like something I don't want happening to me

My Sweet Revenga

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

30 Jan 2006 at 06:58 - 439

From what he said, it looks like the scammer changed the gold value and hit accept just before the OP hit accept. I'm starting to wonder if these people are using scripts to auto change their submitted gold values much faster than any human ever can. If that's the case this will definitely become a growing problem soon. Only fix I can see ANET making to counter this would be to put some kind of time delay after hitting accept or between each step of the transaction. This would make it imposible for a lightning fast script to overcome, and yet still be plenty of time for a normal person using a mouse. Like for instance:

1) open trade window
2) submit money
3) hit accept
4) modify trade items
5) allow new gold value to be entered, but blank out submit key
6) 0.5 sec delay
7) unblank submit gold key so can now be clicked
8) blank out accept key (hell have some kind of countdown on the button too if necessary)
9) 1 sec delay
10) unblank accept key and allow to be clicked

Or something like that. Just some subtle time delays here and there that will thwart bot scripts but probably won't be noticed by the average trader using a mouse to point and click. Have no idea if it is possible to change gold values instantaneously though. If it is, I think I'll stop trading for a while until anet fixes it heh.

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

30 Jan 2006 at 07:01 - 440

can someone just please confirm if it is impossible to avoid this scam or if it's just human inexperience

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

30 Jan 2006 at 07:13 - 441

As I said in another thread in Sardelac Sanitarium, Runescape has an effective solution. After both parties click Accept, the trade is no longer modifiable and can only be canceled... can't quick scam that.

The only way you'd avoid this scam is waiting a random period of time, at least 10 seconds, after clicking Submit. Basically the scammer is trying to predict when you'd hit Accept and tries to change his amount of money immediately before you hit the button. But waiting 10 seconds or more just makes it a guessing game... is he going to change his amount first, or are you going to click Accept before him? That kind of game shouldn't be played in a transaction.