Official GW Scams Thread (no posting names)

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Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/N

I see a lot of outrage over in-game scamming, but let's keep a little perspective on what we're talking about, here.

sh4ft3d

sh4ft3d

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...

Frank Ought To Monk [FotM]

W/

Getting scammed sucks. First time i got black dye a guy wanted to trade with me. Not remembering that it is unwise to trade when you are new at agame, esp. mmo's, I traded it for a shield worth about 1-1.5k. Not really a scam, but i hate when people take advantage of new players.

sreesman

sreesman

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Houston TX. USA

BBFL

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by shawn23233
Yeah scammer will be very common in guildwars soon. They were everywhere in Lineage2 and GW is hosted internationally by NCSoft who seem to have a knack for attracting these poeple.

I just hope they can avoid the hacks and botters that ruined Lineage2 it really was a great game, and I am dreading seeing that happen again in GW (
What do you mean by "hacks and botters"... how can a hack be harmful to other playeres and what's a botter?

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

I don't understand how the buying ashes work. I never have any left over after completing the quest. But yes sadly there are may scams and many innocent new people falling for them. We should compile a list of known scams to watch for.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mavrik
I don't understand how the buying ashes work. I never have any left over after completing the quest. But yes sadly there are may scams and many innocent new people falling for them. We should compile a list of known scams to watch for.
The Altheas Ashes is not a scam. As the ashes are an item, you can pick them up, abandon the quest, and repeat. I've bought Altheas Ashes for 100g, that seems like a pretty good deal for 2,000 XP.

However, there are things you have to watch for:

1st make sure it's Althea's Ashes, not Glittering Dust (same icon).

Second, you have to find Althea's ghost before you can use the ashes.

Hope this helps!

EDIT: For those interested in stopping Bait and Switch scams, check this out:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...856#post759856

SoliceMoon

SoliceMoon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Little Rock, AR

Legacy of Echovald [Echo]

W/R

Altheas Ashes is not a scam. I just bought one for 50g and the quest worked fine.

Hells Vengeance

Hells Vengeance

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Eight Deadly Sins

W/Mo

Why would people wanna scam you for 100g or less...

sno

sno

Look into the Eye.

Join Date: Oct 2005

Detroit, Mi

Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]

Mo/

I'm not sure how this was accomplished, but I was recently (nearly) scammed when trying to buy a Sup Vigor rune (should have known when he spammed it for 3 ectos) He put it up on the screen, and when i moused over, it said "superior vigor" but the rune in the window looked like a minor... Then he said he'd give me a free sword pommel, and switched out the sup for a real minor.

Not sure how he got a sup to look like a minor, but if there are trade hacks starting in GW, theres big problems. anyone know?

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

It's not an exploit. It's a real Sup Vigor with 50 health. See the thread below.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=89984

sno

sno

Look into the Eye.

Join Date: Oct 2005

Detroit, Mi

Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]

Mo/

ah... well that makes me feel much better thanks.

i wasn't aware that sups could be minor skinned, but it was a scam nonetheless, he tried switching it out.

menelik_seth

menelik_seth

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Jeddah, KSA

Celestial Solace

E/

thanks for the heads up... minor skinned sups... sheesh... I'm glad they fixed that tho.

Mimi Miyagi

Mimi Miyagi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Port Orchard, WA

The Second Foundation: [TSF]

But the real obvious problem is that it's open to exploiting. As the OP mentioned, the trader attempted to scam him by switching out the superior with a real minor vigor. Unless you're careful, you'll not notice the change, as both skins are the same in that instance.

Lord Mendes

Lord Mendes

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Derka-Derka Land

Steel Phoenix (StP)

E/

things like this happen all the time.

i was buying an old rockmolder for 10k (too good to be true i thought), and the guy told me that he was giving me an illusion wand for free. Just before accepting the trade, i noticed that he had replaced the rockmolder with another fi that looks like it. the funny thing is, when he was modifying offer, it didnt show that he had taken the old rock out and replaced it with something else. (straight from 1 item to 2 items)

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sno
but it was a scam nonetheless, he tried switching it out.
Granted.

I don't see why Anet doen't change ALL Sup Runes to use the big icon. We know they can do it. (eg: Tormentors)

Deadlyjunk

Deadlyjunk

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Fisherman's Haven

Endangered Species List [List]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
We know they can do it. (eg: Tormentors)
Bad example... we don't want to wait months for a bad result again.

Greygon

Greygon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Arkansas

Knights of the Republic (KOTR)

W/R

I still have a few Superiors sitting around with minor skins... they are just old... just be careful and you won't get scammed...

Gruug

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

PAIN

W/Mo

There is an underworld scam using an invinci monk, they let you pay their way, aggro too soon so the whole party dies off, and solos... waiting for you to map out so they get all the drops. I am currently refusing to map for a scammer by the name of ---. Beware of this build.

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

that doesnt work for me , im always the last to leave hehehe

if i die , he will have to do it with me watching.

Farin

Farin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Delta Formation [DF]

W/

You'r not allowed to post IGN's. Remove it before a mod does.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Kinda wasting your time if you do that, since you can probably get more stuff by playing like a normal person.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

I always check the items I'm buying if the trader switches out for even a second.

Excer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Me

yea it really is a waste of your time to wait there. even if you do, the drop assigned to you will eventually become up for grabs in a while

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Problem:
You spent all that time covering up your skillbar, and weapon (though I dont quite understand the weapon thing...unless your afraid someone will call you out for using the 40% axe), but DIDN'T cover up ANY instance of the persons name in the picture - which is the one thing that should be covered.

As for the scam - Its always smart to check after every modification to their offer.

burai

burai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Fishermen's Haven

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Excer
yea it really is a waste of your time to wait there. even if you do, the drop assigned to you will eventually become up for grabs in a while
Anet really need to address that. Drops should stay with the original assignee - that way this scam dies.

Battle Torn

Battle Torn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scotland

W/Mo

Yeh, same thing happened to me a few times.

I think you should get all remaining drops if you leave the area same as you do when completed a quest, that way it would be pointless for M/Wo to do this, except for the reasons in the following post....

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=96169

burai

burai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Fishermen's Haven

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Battle Torn
Yeh, same thing happened to me a few times.

I think you should get all remaining drops if you leave the area same as you do when completed a quest, that way it would be pointless for M/Wo to do this, except for the reasons in the following post....

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=96169
Read your other post - wasn't sure where to reply

If Anet made this change, then at least the farmer would be farming for you as well. I'd love to see their reaction if ecto dropped for you, and they couldn't take it.

Rabid Weasel

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Welsh Legion

Yeah happened to me and a few guidies in a PuG last night. But we had three of them! Two in the same guild and one other random. As soon as we zoned in we get mending and balthizars go up... luckily i sometimes 55 myself, even tho i can do it without having to use this pathetic trick. So we knew what they where doing and proceded to screw them up by luring nightmares onto them, our ranger was throwing dirt at the attaxs and killing them therefore stopping the 55's getting energy.

It's sad because I now no longer trust Mo/W's and will take a Mo/x over them anyday.

Best tip is to just leave asap, or get a friendly Warrior or Ranger to use any running skills and aggro all the starting attax's on them and start the quest then leave.

ShotGunBunny

ShotGunBunny

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Netherlands

W/E

I never understood why they had that system, the drop was dropped for that person alone, it's easy to miss items. So even though you want it but you didn't see it then thus your drop gets taken by someone else. Okay.....
I think you should get list of drops which are assigned to you, also be able to pick them up from that list(since i often need to toy around with my inv, but the party is already gone by the time i reorganise)and it should give you the ability to give it away or just let it be rolled for someone else. Might be hard to do and could bring some lag, but that shouldn't be a problem.

Lord Cooper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Black Death Knights

E/

lol people are alway strying to scam in trade.. someone was selling 3 black dyes in ascalon for 14k. bargain thought so i chased the seller down and opened a trade window only to be confonted with 3 silvers guess she thought i wouldnt notice lol

LaserLight

LaserLight

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

La La Land

[NOVA]

A/

Problem is, sometimes (admittedly rarely) the public-drop system is a buttsaver. I remember one instance where I had died in a mission, about ten feet away from a purple salvage armor. As I was around lvl 15 and in Kryta at that point, I wanted my damned Rune. We were, however, out of Resurects, so I was stuck. However, a Guildie was kind enough to clear the area, wait for the drop to go public, then grab it for me before he completed the mission.

Admittedly, cases like that are outnumbered in the thousands by idiot Monks trying to get a free Underworld trip, but there is some small reason to keep the public-drop system. Maybe.

ghezbora

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Texas

There Is No Cow Level [cow]

Quote:
Originally Posted by LaserLight
Problem is, sometimes (admittedly rarely) the public-drop system is a buttsaver. I remember one instance where I had died in a mission, about ten feet away from a purple salvage armor. As I was around lvl 15 and in Kryta at that point, I wanted my damned Rune. We were, however, out of Resurects, so I was stuck. However, a Guildie was kind enough to clear the area, wait for the drop to go public, then grab it for me before he completed the mission.

Admittedly, cases like that are outnumbered in the thousands by idiot Monks trying to get a free Underworld trip, but there is some small reason to keep the public-drop system. Maybe.
but cases like this would be handled if anything you didn't pick up just went to the "unclaimed items" window after you zoned...

Adi

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/

On a different note, there are some decent players out there. I was in UW trapping group yesterday, and after the smites we came back to clear the last ataaxes. We were playing around with the last one, we all died except the last player, he finished off the Ataaxe with some traps, and ecto dropped for ME
He was nice enough to rez me and i got it, i was really impressed after reading some of the horrors stories here, and gave him a decent ethernal bow

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Personally, just report them for griefing, the word will get around eventually that if you do this you'll get spanked, harder for repeat occurances.

Mack The Barbarian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

VGJustice

VGJustice

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tyria, cappin' ur bosses

Boston Guild [BG]

R/W

I had a close call a couple of nights ago. I was trying to sell an ok wand in Drok's. Got a price check here and decided to go low on that at 5k, This guy opens a trade window with me, without saying a word. So, I figure that he's hiding from someone and has his chat turned off. I put the wand up so he can see it, and he offers 100g. I was on the ball, and closed the session. He tried to re-open the trade about 3 times, still without saying a word, before he walked off. I came pretty close to actually clicking the "Accept" button. Glad I was paying attention.

Mack The Barbarian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

My main ? is that this person was low level...And I am quite sure they will delete that character on the spot. Can his account still be tracked and banned?

Kassad

Kassad

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

Thats why you do 100k+26 ecto or just 36. Your obviously gonna be scammed if you do the whole 100k's up-front crap.

Mack The Barbarian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I know I tried the ecto and 100k thing. he wouldnt do it. It's not the $ thats a concern..its more the principle. Im not gonna break a sweat over 300k on an item like that and thought what the hell. If he scams me I'll report him. I'm just wondering if his attempt to delete the character right away will allow him to get away with it.

dimirpaw

dimirpaw

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Canada/Alberta/Edmonton

Never do anything upfront at all... Thats just asking to be scammed.

Kassad

Kassad

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mack The Barbarian
I know I tried the ecto and 100k thing. he wouldnt do it. It's not the $ thats a concern..its more the principle. Im not gonna break a sweat over 300k on an item like that and thought what the hell. If he scams me I'll report him. I'm just wondering if his attempt to delete the character right away will allow him to get away with it.
I got him added to friends, i'll see what names pop up when he changes.