Why do People waste Money on 15k or FoW armor?

---->cause theyve no life, its simple.

Or people actually think up decent ways of making gold which doesnt involve serious grind

Why would you buy a Dodge Viper when a Ford Escort will do? Answer: You have money to burn.

I think the answer is about the same as in the level 20 threat: Some loose interest and quit while others start playing this game as if its like real life, trying to look nice, having good conversations, getting a good member of the community... Some kind of rpg Neopets!

Fow / 15k Armor looks cool (mostly)

It's a goal if you beat the game, done all the quests, not in to pvp, and are now on to farming for wealth, or unlocks, or to fund a new 2nd profession to spend you money on. Anet uses it as a gold sink, and a good one too.

Before I started to actively farm, after I beat the game with my ele and have 100% skill unlock, I started saving money and have 1, 15k set and was slowly working on another. For my monk, 1.5 armor is fine with me.

Fow was suppose to be that hard get armor but due how easy it was in the past (Targeted Farming for the same drops, no key chests) all it means to me now is money, not skill or work. How you play in your FOW tells me your skill.

60k for the worst hilt you can use.

Sundering is overrated. Search the forums theres topics, pretty much a 10/10 sundering hilt is like having 1 point into strength. It gives you the equivilent armor pentration. Your better off with Zealous or Vampiric, or even Furious, they are far cheaper and more effective.

Fortitude is pretty good, but Defense (+5) can be just as and in other cases more effective. People selling those hilts for those prices are coning others.
A.net needs to boost sundering me thinks, to at least 20% so its maybe worth useing.

Also a 14^50% gives the same DPS as 15^50%, at least with swords.

15k armor isent really that expensive to make after you get a char through the game and farm some you can easily make it in a short time. FoW on the other hand... is exponentional harder :P

ya fow armor is so dumb, sure it doesnt hurt to have a luxury item but is it worth months of boring farming?
i say no way in hell

Well, to each their own, I say. I have nothing against people who want to grind for their FoW armour. I dont even mind people ebaying it - it's their choice and it hardly affects me. I don't personally want any of the FoW armour, because I don't think it looks as good in most cases. Thats just my opinion though. Bare in mind that not everyone shares the same opinion of any given item in GW. Now, I prefer 15k in most cases, but my armour choices are entirely aesthetic - I have the 15k Geomancer set for my ele, because imo, it is the best looking armour set for a female elementalist and it also shows off my preference for geomancy, (go figure - my favourite class in Final Fantasy Tactics was the Geomancer )

On the other hand, theres my Warrior/Ranger. Imagine, If you will, an above average height female warrior with red pigtails, 1.5k Gladiators Hauberk, 1.5k Knights Greaves and 15k Gladiators Gauntlets and Boots, all dyed Green+Dye Remover. Now, for weapons, she uses a 15>50 Barbed Falchion of Fortitude +26 and a Shadow Shield with +23/-2 in a stance. The sword, I found while farming with my 'noob ele build,' the shield, I traded for a 15>50 Vampiric War Axe with a guildmate. These are all dyed Green+DR too. Why? Cause I like the way it looks, no better reason. And dont get into the whole weapon mod debate - I found it as it was and Imo, 33% longer on the bleeding from Sever artery@ 16 swordsmanship is much better than the bonus you can get from sundering or furious, though I would consider going zealous if I ever get round to capping hundred blades

So, yeah, Thats my preference, but I respect the fact that everyone may not be of the same opinion of me - it's just like the 'why do people dye theior armour black' question, it's all down to vanity. So I'm vain. And theres nothing you can do about it

If you want to stand out, try wearing the Warrior's Collectors armour (from desert/shivs with the collector's helms which do look different than the crafter ones) in the high level areas :-) and without a knight's component..

I wasn't worried about standing out, or being unique, or looking elite. It's just that when I have the Mesmer's FoW armor on....

I FEEEEEEL SOOOO SEKSY!!!!!!

FoW sets worth getting, becuase they actually DO look good, IMO:
Mesmer
Monk
Ranger

Necromancer, Warrior to some degree, and Elementalist sets look like garbage. They should send me the texture files and i'll paint up some better stuff. I remember having a good chuckle after seeing the first Fissure screenshots months back when I was playing my necro "glad I don't have to worry about getting that junk". :P

Some people like it though
I like doing the ole mix-match for a unique look.

I know several people who like to use it in PvP because it sets them apart. They can have different armor with a some what unique color combo when compared to the rest of the pvp players.

15k and FoW armor are more show offy than anything i have 15k i just think it loooks nice its not a waste it just a good feeling in your stomach to think you look better than other people

That is just the worst use of money I can think of, Lets reenforce all the beggars out there by giving them free gold right of the bat. For christs sake at least go to droks and give it to the lame-o's that call out, 'I need 2k for my armor, puhleeeeeze'.
Giving gold to players in Ascalon isnt helping them at all. I used to go there and give away good weapons, but I stopped doing that, 'cause it really isnt helping them. It just enforces the desire to wait for someone to give them something better than what they have know. Let them work for it.If you really wanna help players in Ascalon, well create a new character and go there and start helping out with missions, not with your high level toon, with a low level character, show players the proper way to play, and survive, that you do not need Droks armor to get thru to the fire islands. Going to Ascalon to give things away does nothing for anyone but yourself, your just making yourself feel good(which aint really that bad, but..), and enforcing bad habits in others.
To answer the OP's question I bought my ranger a 15k Druids vest cause its the only piece I want based on looks, I got collectors pants and gloves, and prolly eventually boots. I like armor based on its stats first, then looks, and if I can afford 15k why not buy it, if I could afford FoW I would but it, and maybe one day I will. That said I rarely even notice others armor, have no clue what most of the other classes FoW or 15k looks like ???

At first this sounds dumb but What I think hes saying is I'm not going to dish out the money for a sup vig rune put it on my 1.5k then get 15k and risk having the sup not come off the 1.5k and waste the money.

What i'm wondering is, as more and more people start to obtain 15k or FoW armour, eventually everyone(well alot of people) will end up with the same looking armour again, thus eliminating the whole purpose of being a 'unique char'

A prime example is the female ranger's 15k druids. I can go into practically any major town and find at least five or six people wearing them there.

it's the age old oxymoronic human nature that we suffer:

"when everyone is unique, nobody is."

In a game where your avatar/characters are all you get to see, Eye candy and Style > Everything else.

There are only three reasons why people wear 15k armor or FOW armours:

They want to prove that they are wealthy
They buy it for the look
They have gotten the items they need and done all they want and all thats left to buy a set of fow to show off.

sure fow has only 85 armour same as almost every other warrior armour and sure theres no bonus but hey people will buy stuff based on looks how else can you explain people paying 500k or more for a chaos axe,fellblade,crystaline, req 8 15% above when they can buy a spiked axe req 8 15% above, spatha, longsword, short sword,flamberge, for 100k or less it's mainly looks or wasting money.

myself I own 3 total sets of armour

knights from droks
dragon from granite
and glads from 15k grottos

the reason I own them: ea one is build for my needs

Major absorb on granite
Sup vigor on knights
glads for energy only

I dont buy fow cuz I dont feel like paying over a million plat for a 4th set of armour I dont need but Also cuz im saving my cash for factions

Proof of this is my friend I asked him why are buying fow you got everything else and all so why buy it?

btw he alrdy owns 3 sets of fow he said cuz I wanna waste my money

Nuff said.

Lots of People have fissure armor now because of ebay. I dont understand buying gold off ebay. You spend real money for fake money. How do you get any satisfaction outa buying gold/items off ebay. Theres no work involved. It takes the point outa the game.

personally, it made me feel like i actualyl accomplished somthing, it took me 3 weeks to get enough stuff for 15k i wanted, but yes, i think some people are noobs that have 15k, because they're like "OMFG WHY'D YOU GET ASCALON AND PLATEMAIL ISNTEAD OF GLADS LIKE ME, OMFG BE A CONFORMIST" i hate people like them


also, why use glads when in most cases, a wamo such as myself will never need more than 20 energy, i mean, if thk is easily doable with 20 energy, then you can do almost ANYTHING else with 20 energy, lol, but yes, in conclusion people get 15k to
A. (as in my case) feel like they accomplished somthing other than beating the game
B. the reason why people play MMORPGS is so they can SHOW off there time and effort
and last
C. they have ebayed the cash and are total noobs (god cast down your vengence on them)

lol, 10/10 sundering is more of a waste than 15ks/Fow. Besides making money in this game is easy, so why not treat yourself to some better items than the usual 1.5k droks that everyone else is wearing.

You forgot to list the most common reason for glads:

They look great on female warrior toons Forget stats and garbage-can armors... I live for the eye-candy!

PS: I'm happily married, and my wife also plays GW... best of both worlds eh?

rofl, yeh, but meh, i don't like the glads personally, because nearly everyone has it, and it doesn't take much effort with a 25 some odd energy to run, try doing a droks run with 20, yes i know it doesn't seem much, but its a bitch (yes i did own glads 1.5k lol)

I'm an owner of over 7 sets of 15k.. And let me say one thing, if I could sell each back for 75k I would...

I have worn 1.5 armor for so long and it took a lot to talk myself into buying 15k scar pattern for my nec.. but I did it and I was broke for a long time after that. I cant imagine how people can afford fow... I mean I was just curious and about a week ago I tally'd up the total ammount it would cost to purchase necro fow armor (with mats, ecto, and the 15k purchase) and it was roughly 800 and some thousand plat... How could you feel good about spending that much money on armor that has the same stats as 1.5 but just looks different?

I dont know. I guess looks do matter to some people and Im sure the people who baught it back in the day felt good about it because most other people were broke and noobs and were probably always complimenting them on it but how do they feel now? When so many people have fow armor? And how will they feel when factions comes out? And theres an entirely new and different (maybe cooler) set of ridiculously expensive armor? Not to good I think.

not how I roll... not trying to judge anyone, we all are different. Its just not worth it to me.

I made my millions from Farming Griffons, but its nerfed now. Until I find another farming ground where I can make 200k per week then perhaps another set of FoW wont seem worth it to me either.

Or buy fow armor and then add perfect mods to your massive collection of weapons

you'd pay 60 for a sword with those stats? lol n--b
j/k
but really...you like what you like and they like what they like just let it be

what else should you use your money on?, anyway i think it would be nice with a fow armor when you have great weapons and other stuff...

For me, it's simply because I have the cash on hand. That, and due to the lack of Mesmers, 15k Virtuoso's Armor dyed black does make my Mesmer stand out. It's simply the fact that I have the money and nothing better to spend it on at the time.

There's not much too buy for me besides FoW Armor, and I couldn't stop getting rich, so I just had to buy 2 sets :O

I don't play on my Warrior too much, so I can't really buy him really expensive items either, since that'd be more like a waste.

I personaly think FoW for warrior looks cooles in game

Ive since dyed my armour silver and bought Viktos Bulwark... looks even cooler

well is it worth 15k just 2 look kewl

As Rick James says, "I'm rich biatch!"

Everyone's tastes differ when it comes to appearance. I like the dominatrix style of the Mesmer's FoW armor, and the fact that the FemEle's FoW armor doesn't look like some Japanime Fanboys wet dream.

However, the Warrior FoW (as a full outfit) reminds me of a frilly lizard.

Ranger FoW = somewhat plain and dull.

Someone else already pointed out the benefit of Necro and Monk FoW - as all armor styles are identical in appearance, you can wear a scar pattern or tattoos and not be running around in your underwear. Mind you, if you like to use a mix of armors, and don't want to look like an idiot doing it, you can always rely on FoW to balance it out. A warrior can run around in a mix of Gladiators, Drakescale, Ascalon, and Plate.. but if it's FoW it all looks like one cohesive set of armor.


Why do most male players play female characters? Because if they're going to stare at something for hours on end it might as well have a nice ass. If you're going to stare at your character for weeks, or even months, on end, it might as well be nice to look at.. and some people happen to think FoW armor is nicer to look at.

I personally prefer the warrior armor setup of FoW boots & leggings with the 15k Gladiators top & gloves, and Ascalon helm (FoW helm looks good for guys, but dorky on girls).

Rangers look awesome in FoW pants and boots, with the droks or 15k studded leather top (especially female ones).


But to answer your question from a personal standpoint: I bought FoW armor simply to see how hard it was to buy. I spent 1 week actively gathering materials and bought the pants and boots for my FemWarrior, and a Superior Vigor to throw in it. I got bored at that point, and realized that it actually isn't that hard to get Fissure armor at all. I figure, with my farming spots, the amount of time I spend playing, and the items I sell in game and on the GWG forums, it would take approximately 2 and a half weeks to get a full set of FoW armor. If you're an ascended level 20 player with the right builds, FoW armor is something you could easily achieve.. and if you had more time to spend gaming than this mother of 1 that works 6-10 hours a day & homeschools her son, you could easily do it in less than 2 weeks.

Really? It actually reminded me of an overgrown Stone Summit Dwarf

An Item is only worth as much as people are willing to spend for it, thats why crystallines & etc.. are worth so much.

personally i preffer look of cleaver to al other axes, i am hence willing to spend more $$$ on it.


If you have a sword which is crap but which people are wlling to pay alot for, its worht alot, if you have the same sword with a not ass desirable skin and people wont buy it its worthless.

Personally I think most of the 15k armor is ugly and a poor replacement for the Droks stuff. The only one I like is the Gladiator Warrior Armor. But haven't bought it because it seems a waste of money for nothing. If it was even a tiny bit better than the Droks stuff I would get it in a heartbeat.

because we're not poor noobs like you