Underworld Domination

sno

sno

Look into the Eye.

Join Date: Oct 2005

Detroit, Mi

Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]

Mo/

Just wanted to see what everyone can accomplish in the underworld. A guildie and I are working on 2maning the whole thing, and we're making considerable progress. As of now, we can 2man all of the labyrinth (including unwanted guest and escort of souls), all of ice wastes (including the ice king quest), all of the forgotten vale (including the spirits quest), all of the twin serpent mountains (haven't tried the quest yet, but we summoned the reaper) and we're working on ways to clear the chaos planes (which won't be hard now that we can do escort of souls with ease) and once that's done we'll head into the bone pits/spawning pools (haven't made it yet, too busy with our spider charming business.) Heres some of my interesting screenshots

UPDATE for those new to the thread: Underworld Domination is complete. We have successfully completed EVERY quest in the Underworld using only a team of 3 people.

I counted 11 drops, so I'm assuming there was only 11. one or more of them might have dropped nothing, but from the screen it looks like 11.


This is the ice king quest in the Ice Wastes (yep, lived again, as you can see. My partner got 2 rares and a glob in that group, hense the 'wtf')


Heres my current max with smites, 21 at once. 15 is my max with no dp. (yes, lived again )

sno

sno

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Detroit, Mi

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Mo/

Heres a shot from before we knew how to kill mindblades. Got to the planes, but didn't make it far

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

You are my personal hero

We can kill all the aatxes/coldfires/smites up until the behemoths..

As for quests.. well, ice king wasn't pretty.. escort havent tried yet, wrathful spirits at the village was very good with 3.. haven't tried it yet with 2 (spider run).. We can't get passed the behemoths and our inventory is filled anyway.. Any tips?

Sagaris

Sagaris

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands.

Damn you! I want to be you bad! How much time does it take you to clear it all?

Homsar

Homsar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

[Larp]Larpers United

Mo/

Once Again, the Homestarmy proves its awsomeness to the World.

sno

sno

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Detroit, Mi

Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajantis
You are my personal hero

We can kill all the aatxes/coldfires/smites up until the behemoths..

As for quests.. well, ice king wasn't pretty.. escort havent tried yet, wrathful spirits at the village was very good with 3.. haven't tried it yet with 2 (spider run).. We can't get passed the behemoths and our inventory is filled anyway.. Any tips?
For behemoths you will have natures renewal on you almost always, so you have to drop one of your enchants to maintain energy. Spam blessed sig and keep prot spirit up, don't worry about breeze, as they don't hit hard enough to make it worth using. Do your best to interupt the healing springs with your wand, and let the necro do his thing . also, when 1 group dies, either wait 90 seconds, or prot/breeze your necro and have him trigger the traps.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagaris
Damn you! I want to be you bad! How much time does it take you to clear it all? Clearing the ice wastes (including the first room) takes about 10 minutes, the labyrinth takes 5 minutes or so. From start to finish, a 'spider run' (including the labyrinth and forgotten vale) takes about 20-25 minutes. Behemoths are a bitch (easy to kill, but takes a long time, and theres a ton of them), getting to the top of the twin serpent mountains can take hours, and anything beyond that is 1h+ if you want to live.

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

That's pretty quick.. What skills is the necro using?

And suppose we make it passed, any special tactic about killing mindblades or just rush and hope SB recharges fast enough?

Glasswalker

Glasswalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Northwest Ascalon

Freedom

N/R

Bummer. When I read the thread title, I was expecting a Mesmer UW build.

sno

sno

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Detroit, Mi

Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajantis
That's pretty quick.. What skills is the necro using?

And suppose we make it passed, any special tactic about killing mindblades or just rush and hope SB recharges fast enough?
Necro skills are our secret, and as we're the only group I've ever heard able to kill mindblades using 2 people, that's a secret as well .


Quote:
Originally Posted by Glasswalker
Bummer. When I read the thread title, I was expecting a Mesmer UW build. Me/mo, 16 illusion, some healing, some prot :P

prot spirit
healing breeze
cry of frustration (or power spike)
Illusionary weaponry (elite)
balthazars spirit
mending
watchful spirit
sympathetic visage <<<---- added later, forgot about it.

it's painfully slow, hacking 1 aatxe to pieces at a time, but it works. make sure you have full energy, and prot spirit AND IW before aggro, so you can interupt the nightmare then hack it with IW.

I aim to please

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

I'd run the nec with shatter hex to get rid of the ignorance vs mindblades....
other than that a standard ss/sv nec.. mmmm..

derrtyboy69

derrtyboy69

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Clouds

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/Me

Me and FCT Steve O can clear about the same amount of enemies, but the best way for us to make ecto is to kill smites and Bladed Aatxes, so we ussually odnt bother with this.

Glasswalker

Glasswalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Northwest Ascalon

Freedom

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by sno
I aim to please Yeah! Thank you.

NekoZ

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Long Island

So Goth We Crap [Bats]

Hey, Faithful Sno you are on my friends list but have no clue from what lol. Good luck with rest of UW =p

The Son Of Morgoth

The Son Of Morgoth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Maryland

The Servants Of Morgoth

N/

that is teh ownag!@

Knido

Knido

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

in exile

W/

ive got a question, being the trap ranger that doesnt go farther than the smites in UW:

what exactly is a Mindblade and why are they so hard?

sno

sno

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Detroit, Mi

Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knido
ive got a question, being the trap ranger that doesnt go farther than the smites in UW:

what exactly is a Mindblade and why are they so hard? mindblades are mesmers. they have lots of annoying spells, including crazy degen and ignorance, and the kicker, shatter enchants.

edit: mindblades don't use shatter

MoldyRiceFrenzy

MoldyRiceFrenzy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Santa Rosa, CA

Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]

Mo/W

OMG how the friggin do people 1-2 man these things omg wow so sad!

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

Why is that sad? I get further with 2 then with a pug of 8

The pug state of today is pretty pathetic

I'll ask the necro buddies if they know about a trick to kill those

sno

sno

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Detroit, Mi

Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]

Mo/

If anyone is interested, I have started a monk academy, showing students how to do all of this

See the thread for more info:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=99701

xb0vv

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Very nice, but what is your damage output? I see you your very well protected with ur 55build, but how do you cause the big dmg needed to kill attaxes e.t.c.

MoldyRiceFrenzy

MoldyRiceFrenzy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Santa Rosa, CA

Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]

Mo/W

man i just madea monk so that i can make a farming char ... this is gona be hard =(

sno

sno

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Detroit, Mi

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Mo/

Went on our planned trip down to clear it, and did quite well. We started off with a ranger, but he neterr'd before we got to the behemoths. We pressed on with 3 people, and ... Well I'll just let the screenshots do the talking.

cleared the chaos planes first, this is the entrance to the spawning pools.


Then we cleared the spawning pools.


Then off to the bone pits.


Then we cleared the bone pits. (the random red dots are constantly respawning monsters, that the necros use to make wells and horrors.


Didn't make it to the quests, but that's next time.

Sir Krohan

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Shattered Hand

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by sno
Necro skills are our secret, and as we're the only group I've ever heard able to kill mindblades using 2 people, that's a secret as well .




Me/mo, 16 illusion, some healing, some prot :P

prot spirit
healing breeze
cry of frustration (or power spike)
Illusionary weaponry (elite)
balthazars spirit
mending
watchful spirit
sympathetic visage <<<---- added later, forgot about it.

it's painfully slow, hacking 1 aatxe to pieces at a time, but it works. make sure you have full energy, and prot spirit AND IW before aggro, so you can interupt the nightmare then hack it with IW.

I aim to please
Secret?
What secret?
Arcane Mimicry ftw -.-'

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

if the necro casts it.. won't that last for like 5 secs..? more with blessed aura but still not much

sno

sno

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Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajantis
if the necro casts it.. won't that last for like 5 secs..? more with blessed aura but still not much The necro can't have blessed aura, he's n/me. Blessed aura only works with spells you CAST, not spells cast on you.

Our 3man build is nearly bug free now, we have a couple tweaks we're going to do before we head back down, but it does work nearly flawlessly.

(no, the necro does not bring mimicry)

MrJerrypants

MrJerrypants

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

i miss you

I run a very heavily modified SS/SV build. Of course no mimicry because without divine favor, that's 30 energy for about a 5 second SB. guess again

Sir Krohan

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Shattered Hand

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJerrypants
I run a very heavily modified SS/SV build. Of course no mimicry because without divine favor, that's 30 energy for about a 5 second SB. guess again I could but its 3am so wait till tomorrow :P

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

Made it to chaos planes yesterday with 2..

Didn't last long however since we still had a nature renewal on us => no energy, and a shatter enchant from 1 dreamrider that wandered to far wasn't pretty

Still, behemoths are easy, we'll try to clear them all next time..

No idea as to how to deal with mindblades though (didn't tried either, since we were eating chaos dirt..)

edit: how about shatter hex, inspired hex?

Homsar

Homsar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

[Larp]Larpers United

Mo/

Im the Tank. Period.


Gwen



sno

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Mo/

We did it. EVERY quest in Underworld (except 4 horsemen, but that's next time. We misjudged a mindblade spawn and they ate up our reaper.)




sno

sno

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Mo/




sno

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sno

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That's it . Sorry about all the loading, but I hope it was worth it.

Don't ask for the mo/me build, or the n/me build, because you won't get it.
I will divulge exactly how my portion is run in my academy though.

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

Suppose we ask it very politely?

maybe not the build, but will you tell us how you deal with the ice king quest?

sno

sno

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Mo/

Ice king is easy.

Step 1: I tank the dryders

Step 2: The necro kills the dryders

Step 3: receive reward.

Homsar

Homsar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

[Larp]Larpers United

Mo/

Actually, if you read my earlier post, you will learn that I am the tank, not snow.


Gwen

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

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W/

Sure, that signet of midnight must REALLY help out

sno

sno

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Mo/

btw... does anyone know what happened to my purple/green screenshots? :O.. I've never seen that before, originally I thought it was inverted, but I tried inverting again and it came out even worse >.<

natus

natus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Denmark

Quote:
Originally Posted by sno
btw... does anyone know what happened to my purple/green screenshots? :O.. I've never seen that before, originally I thought it was inverted, but I tried inverting again and it came out even worse >.< it happens sometimes when you change from .bmp to .jpg :/\

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Woaah, please, let me be one of those Monks once. I can't find any teams at all, they only do short smite-only runs etc. I never get that far