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Xorena

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

30 Jul 2006 at 02:38 - 1

I am so frustrated lately

. My husband and I have almost finished getting all of the skills from prophecies and factions. Now we want to PVP. But argh, the people who we run into are just unfathomably clueless, rude, childish or all of the above!

We've been trying to meet new people, so one of my adverts in HA and TA is "husb/wife duo seeks to meet group of mature people to pvp with regularly" and you wouldn't believe the inane and rude comments I get back. "OMG you let your wife play?" (Hey buddy I'm the wife) to "Mature? so you want to talk about sex?" (uh, no, mature is not a measure of what crude topic you choose for discussion, rather, what you choose not to talk about). Or we get on vent/ts with these supposed "mature people" are bragging about smoking dope or start hitting on me as soon as they find out I am a woman.

I am so close to fed up. I just want to pvp as a team with people who don't want to talk about pot and sex all the time.

On a side note, I believe a huge downfall to this game is they don't charge a nominal monthly fee. At least a monthly fee would keep the kiddies out who can't do anything without mommy or daddy's credit card.

Anyway, thank you for letting me vent. Argh.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

30 Jul 2006 at 02:41 - 2

Generally, people who play video games are kids. Hence...immaturity : / . But yes! There are mature people playing out there...they're just, um, hard to find beneath all those immature ones.

Sorry it sucks though, but very few people on here are immature, so you're in luck!

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

30 Jul 2006 at 02:43 - 3

Many kiddies have their own credit card or beg their parents to pay it for them, I seen many of them in WoW.

Best bet is to make your own group on TS and Vent and learn builds to play.

Winx.ZN

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

30 Jul 2006 at 02:49 - 4

i dont think anyone cares wether you are hubby and wife or tom and jerry. too much info. "2 people looking to pvp" nuff said.
so you consider yourself "done" with pve? join a pvp guild.
GW is full of immature people, and sadly its not always the "kiddies"
I have had more than my share of older "mature" people who are more annoying than 3 teen school girls talking about leonardo di caprio when titanic was just out.
Charing a fee does not equal end to immaturity.
Go to TA with your husband, on a very regular basis, join random groups get good at what you do. Soon enough youll bump into someone who you can tolerate and can tolerate you. Good players are in high demand and you will probably start getting added to friends lists. You should add to f-list too. Rinse and repeat.
Finding a good pvp group is not unlike farming, it takes many tries, patience and being good at it before you reap the rewards. Good Luck.

Venice Queen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Washington, DC

A Most Excellent Guild [DUDE]

Mo/Me

30 Jul 2006 at 02:56 - 5

People think if you dont fame farm to get to a certain rank you have no idea how to play the game... :P

/blames IWAY

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

30 Jul 2006 at 02:58 - 6

Are you part of a guild? If you aren't, you should advertise that you wish to join a mature PVP guild that caters to beginners. Then you're more likely to get paired with your peers, and won't have as much difficulty forming groups at different times of the day. Also, get good at your build (may consider doing some RA to perfect your skills), and when you win a lot, people notice. Successful PVP'ers make new friends fast.

Video gaming is heavily male-oriented, so the sexism will always be there.

Xorena

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

30 Jul 2006 at 03:03 - 7

We are currently guilded, yes, but everyone quit to go back to WOW I think (been there done that, not going back). I've always thought (re: video games) I'd rather have a nice person who can't play well than a person who thinks they know everything and treats people like crap. You can teach the nice person to play well and you'll probably have a much better time.

As for people not caring if we're married? Maybe they don't care but I do and that's why I mention it.

Morrandir Gurthring

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Wandering Oracles of Time

Rt/N

30 Jul 2006 at 03:32 - 8

*waves*

I'm young, but mature, from what I'm told. My guild's the same way. It's currently a collection of real-life friends, but we're talking about expanding. We're all still trying to get geared up so we can actually be competitive, but we do use PvP chars once in a while. Everyone is still struggling to get to TA (Curse the 5 consecutive win in RA rule!), though.

So fear not, there are true 'mature' people out there. But as Bryant Again said, you've got to do some looking

Canadian Bacon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Ontario, Canada

Kingdom of Tyria [KoT]

30 Jul 2006 at 03:38 - 9

I am not a PvPer at all, but I'm sure everyone will agree with the following statement:

PvE is filled with just as many immature people as PvP, hence PUGing has become rather unpopular as of late.

I am still a PUGer (It gets pretty lonely with Henchies), and I run into this all the time. It truly is unavoidable. I am not female, so I really can't relate to your situation in that way, but I am a youth- 15, to be exact. I like to think of myself as being above childish things, as a guy preparing for adulthood should be, but I get lumped in with the stereotype all the time when I tell people how old I am. Usually I earn my respect, and break out of that mould fairly quickly.

Unfortunately, that staerotype isn't entirely innacurate. Case in point; I recently had the displeasure of doing some quests in the Undercity with a kid who, according to information he himself privided between screams about coffee, is 10 years old and addicted to caffeine. I think I've said enough already.

Monthly fees definitely do not guarantee an end to the stupidity. For one, a large portion of the player base, inculding myself, would leave the game. Secondly, as previously mentioned, many youths either have their own credit cards, or parents who don't mind using theirs. A good example of this can be seen in the video that has been circulating the web for some time now, where a kid playing on Xbox Live was recorded having an argument with his mother. Harsher words were spoken by that little boy than most people would dare say to any of their elders, let alone a mother. Yells were exchanged by both parties, and I imagine many feelings hurt, all in the name of chocolate-milk before bedtime, and whether or not the boy should be allowed to have some.

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

30 Jul 2006 at 03:47 - 10

The mature people are around. Perhaps we should form our own guild!

Playing since release of GW, I've found that the only way to stay calm is a large dose of tolerance mixed with patience.

WoW charges a monthly fee, but on WoW I've seen similar rude and crude behavior and immaturity, just less of it. I think the real difference is that GW and Factions is just one huge server for the US and you rarely meet up with the same people on a regular basis unless they are in your guild. With WoW, it is broken up into a large number of servers, so people you meet are part of your neighborhood. So people are more polite and considerate on the average.

That being said, I have found the GW community usually helpful, friendly, and polite. It is the exceptions that make us all miserable at times.

slappy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

30 Jul 2006 at 03:47 - 11

Sometimes it seems like there are only 10 or so players over the age of 21, but i'm sure that the real number is a little larger than that. We just tend to have less time to devote to the game, hence a high proportion of us are offline.

Storm Crow

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

With Vanatiel by the Lion's Arch Lighthouse, waiting for the storm with which we are accoustomed

Children of the Order [CoO] -True Heroes Fight to Keep the Balance-

30 Jul 2006 at 03:48 - 12

I agree with you, Xonrena, there are too many immature people allowed to play this game. I've been told many times by guildies and strangers alike that I'm extremely mature for the young age of 13. Infact, I once did a mission with a PUG, and they were constantly complaining about how immature people are, and complimenting me on my skill, and no doubt I told them of my age just before we hit the ending cinematic, and they were entirely surprised.

I am a currently active PvP'er, ranging from Warrior to Elementalist, with enough experiences with immaturity to fill the Grand Canyon, and I'm trypically available unless I'm clearing the Fissure with guildies. Message me any time you're interested in a bit of mature PvP: Garria or Alicia Stormcrow

PS: My parents also play, and they're part of the older group of players. My mother typically doesn't excentuate the subject, but Dad's known to bring it up occasionally, and no one really seems to care. I have gotten an "OMG!! Your parents play?! I'd kill for that!!" a few times though

.

felinette

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Girl Power [GP]

Me/

30 Jul 2006 at 03:53 - 13

Xorena, I feel your pain. I was thinking about this myself after spending some time in pre-searing today. For a game that has a policy against using sexual terms and sex talk, it's pretty bad. If I had children, they would not be allowed near GW until Anet makes more of an effort to clean things up beyond relying on players to report it. I'm not a prude by any stretch of the imagination, but when the game allows children as young as 13 to play, it's really disturbing to see players asking others to PM them for sex, etc. I was in Ascalon City earlier and 90% of chat was sexual in nature. I'm tempted to turn off local chat from now on--think I will.

I agree with Xorena that the no subscription fee means there is probably a disproportionate number of young folks playing GW. I don't equate young with immature--just making an observation.

Demesis

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

30 Jul 2006 at 04:12 - 14

/semi-sarcasm
If you want to avoid this kind of behaviour, go play Runescape.
/end semi-sarcasm

Which does have a slight ring of truth to it. It may be hard for you all to believe, but people in Runescape don't pass out as much racial, sexual, personal abuse as you see in Guild Wars.

I just learn to be twice as bad in this game. That's why I don't feel bad when I abuse someone or make a complete ass of myself.

Ken Dei

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

30 Jul 2006 at 04:21 - 15

The maturity level of the entire world is continuously collapsing in on itself. In both the virtual and real world. People just keep doing stupid things for increasingly stupid reasons on all levels of society in all aspects of life.

All empires collapse in time, and humanity in and of itself is the greatest empire on the planet.

bigwig

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nova Scotia

#Dismantle

30 Jul 2006 at 04:32 - 16

xorena, you're just going to have to find yourself another guild. Theres immature people of all sorts in every game. Best to situate yourself with people of like mind. I'm in alliance knights where we tend to be comfortable with husband and wife teams. Feel free to check us out and our forums, or not.

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

30 Jul 2006 at 04:44 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xorena

I am so frustrated lately

. My husband and I have almost finished getting all of the skills from prophecies and factions. Now we want to PVP. But argh, the people who we run into are just unfathomably clueless, rude, childish or all of the above!

We've been trying to meet new people, so one of my adverts in HA and TA is "husb/wife duo seeks to meet group of mature people to pvp with regularly" and you wouldn't believe the inane and rude comments I get back. "OMG you let your wife play?" (Hey buddy I'm the wife) to "Mature? so you want to talk about sex?" (uh, no, mature is not a measure of what crude topic you choose for discussion, rather, what you choose not to talk about). Or we get on vent/ts with these supposed "mature people" are bragging about smoking dope or start hitting on me as soon as they find out I am a woman.

I am so close to fed up. I just want to pvp as a team with people who don't want to talk about pot and sex all the time.

On a side note, I believe a huge downfall to this game is they don't charge a nominal monthly fee. At least a monthly fee would keep the kiddies out who can't do anything without mommy or daddy's credit card.

Anyway, thank you for letting me vent. Argh.

Yeah, here's a couple points I would like to make:

Local chat is FTL.
Kiddies are annoying, but someone has to loose to you in PvP
If you think idiots who talk about Marijuana are annoying, wait until you talk to people who won't stop drinking the Mountain Dew/Red Bull/Expresso.
Forums are FTW. Get in a guild by posting in the "Looking for Guild?" thread here. That is the best way to get into a good guild, period.

X of Thulcandra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Sector 001

N/A

W/

30 Jul 2006 at 04:50 - 18

"ohemgee a [email protected] cann i seckz u up??? Lolz!!"

Try finding a PVP oriented guild, PUG's are a waste of time usually (in my experiences, at least).

Fox Reeveheart

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Michigan

none q.q

D/

30 Jul 2006 at 04:59 - 19

If you don't like it then go pay your monthly fee with WoW.

I love being mature and having people like me for it. But the reason I play this game is BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF MONTHLY FEES. And EVERYONE KNEW when they heard of GW before it was released that it had no monthly fees as it was a huge headline. So hopefully some people thought ahead and thinked "all the young kids will be on here".

So yeah, i'm sorry all of them are giving you a tough time... but you have to just deal with it. >.< sorry for coming off as rude right there.

IrishCatholicNewYorker

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

FL (from Long Island NY)

Rage Against The Dying [RAGE]

Me/W

30 Jul 2006 at 05:04 - 20

I have to agree that there are alot of immature users on GW... however there are alot more mature players on it. They just don't stand out bc there not out talking in local chat about things no one wants to hear. Just advertise that you want to join a mature (if need be adult guild). And if your annoyed with immature users (and your not alone) turn off local chat when your in a town with immature players.

IrishCatholicNewYorker

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

FL (from Long Island NY)

Rage Against The Dying [RAGE]

Me/W

30 Jul 2006 at 05:05 - 21

I have to agree that there are alot of immature users on GW... however there are alot more mature players on it. They just don't stand out bc there not out talking in local chat about things no one wants to hear. Just advertise that you want to join a mature (if need be adult guild). And if your annoyed with immature users (and your not alone) turn off local chat when your in a town with immature players.

Whiplashr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

30 Jul 2006 at 05:23 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demesis

I just learn to be twice as bad in this game. That's why I don't feel bad when I abuse someone or make a complete ass of myself.

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em?

But what about the other old axiom.. that you should never "sink to someone elses level"?

Domino

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Houston

A/Rt

30 Jul 2006 at 06:53 - 23

I think monthly fees are definitely a deterrant (someone isn't going to pay 15.00 bucks a month to be a jerk 24/7 when they can do it for free on GW) - you still see the same immaturity on games like WoW and EQII, there's just slightly less of it.

I really hate to say it, but the local channels literally thrust me back to my Diablo II days as far as stupidity, ignorance, intolerance, and juvenile behavior goes. Every time I think I've seen the worst people can be, someone goes and stoops to an all-new low.

However there is a flipside to that coin. On GW I have met some of the coolest, nicest people, that I consider friends. Needless to say I enjoy playing with them greatly.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

30 Jul 2006 at 07:04 - 24

Immaturity is going to be found in any on-line game. It's not just GW or WoW that you'll find the juvenile twits who act & talk like idiots. You'll find them in FPS games, too. It seems to me that they tend to group together in GW, tho. I've found that they congregate in pre and post searing Ascalon City, the Random Arenas and the ABs.

It's annoying and all one can do is take a SS or 2 and report the worst of the behavior & then put the kiddies on Ignore for the time being.

Tark Alkerk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Black Hole

less

E/

30 Jul 2006 at 07:20 - 25

first things first
Age doesn't equal maturity
some people think that unless you over 18/30 whatever you about as mature as 5 year old.
i have seen many older players behave very imaturely like a streotypical child.
then only adive i can give is for you to find a guild with an age limit that is into pvp, it is really just a case of trial and error tbh.
yes there are alot of jerks and 10 year olds out there who like to call you a noob (because you luxon/kurzick) and grind on you when your afk.
the only way is to perserve.
and like many others have said allready local chat equalls the gutter of Guild wars in pvp.
i keep it turned off most of the time unless i want to have a bit of laugh at someone else expense.

led-zep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

30 Jul 2006 at 07:46 - 26

dont really see the point of this thread, of course there are immature people but since you dont have to deal with them and its only a game you can quite easily ignore them.
the majority of people or course are going to say 'yes most people are immature but im not' and to be honest if you would prefer nice people then pvp isnt for you, thats mostly egotistical elitists

KiRi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Canada

Grenths Rejects [GR]

30 Jul 2006 at 08:02 - 27

I agree with the lack of mature players

It's a real shame and makes getting into random parties or doing random arenas quit painful. With the insane amount of stupid comments and remarks people make is pathetic.
I'm just glad i was able to find a Great Guild to partake in

So don't lose hope! there are a few out there

LordDeArnise

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

California, USA

The Elite Knights of Tarnia [PwnD]

30 Jul 2006 at 08:15 - 28

I am not much of a PvP'er, but I know the feeling all too well. It is one of several reasons that I don't play much MMORPG's lately, including GW, as much as I used to, so I know how you guys feel. It doesn't matter which MMO you play in, whether it's GW, WoW, EQ, CoH/CoV, whatever; there will be a community full of immature players, some of them alot worse than others. In fact, I saw a few players in the RA's today that sounded so immature, or did immature things, that i was thinking, why do they even bother to play here?

I have to agree that the remarks some people make is appalling, and that, yes, there are plenty of people in Pre-Searing Ascalon that does nothing more than seek whatever they're trying to do that has absolutely nothing to do with what the game intended them to do. Yes, having Anet try to ban them is possible, but seeing how some players were "innocent bystanders" in them banning the latest batch of bots, it can be quite a task, and alot of online paperwork for the staff to hear players' griefs and appeals.

To me, it is very hard to tell the age range of people in the community because of the variants in maturity. Therefore, as others have pointed out, the best thing to do is to do your research and get acquainted with others in talk and in battling. See if they'll accept an older group that have all kinds of r/l things to do--work, family, friends, etc; then go from there.

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

30 Jul 2006 at 08:43 - 29

I think the "mature" people here, are playing this game with all chats dissabled. You can join pugs, but must be extremely strong on your feet. Leave the party by first sign of jerkishness (This has the most effect when you're the only healer

)

Barkroot Bonecrunch

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

R/W

30 Jul 2006 at 09:00 - 30

Ok, I am 11 years old, but don't just start assuming I am immature. I am top of my class in English and R.S and I learn to resist foul language and such. But on top of that I accept that some people are just naturally childish. Hey you never know, they may be dislecsec. Not all people are are perfect. Oh and please don't ask to put a monthly fee on this game. My parents have financial difficultys sending me to a private school.

Solvi

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Avatars of Faith

R/W

30 Jul 2006 at 09:10 - 31

Xorena,

Both guilds are very mature...(let me point out i don't mean old...we currently have members as young as 6...(my daughter)...and as old as 60 (our guild leader)..we dont tolerate hate chat, flaming, swearing or general rudeness. Everyone in the guild is quite freindly and helpful...my wife and I belong to the pve guild and i will join the pvp guild as soon as i can talk my wife into letting me buy another copy of G.W...lol...check them out and see if it's maybe something you would be interested in.

Kidney Licker

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Europe Server

30 Jul 2006 at 11:40 - 32

Change to Europe server.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

30 Jul 2006 at 11:57 - 33

There are many immature people who play this game, but remember its rated Teen. The age group can be anything from -10 - 40+, so you can't expect everyone to be mature.

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

30 Jul 2006 at 12:24 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

There are many immature people who play this game, but remember its rated Teen. The age group can be anything from -10 - 40+, so you can't expect everyone to be mature.

The EULA does actually forbid anyone under the age of 13 from playing. Not that that seems to do much good...

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

30 Jul 2006 at 12:35 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doomlord_Slayermann

The EULA does actually forbid anyone under the age of 13 from playing. Not that that seems to do much good...

In that case the EULA is in error. The box states 12+, which means that people can play this at the age of 12.

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

30 Jul 2006 at 13:27 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xorena

I am so frustrated lately

. My husband and I have almost finished getting all of the skills from prophecies and factions. Now we want to PVP. But argh, the people who we run into are just unfathomably clueless, rude, childish or all of the above!

Welcome to the PvP arenas. There are mature players there, but you'd not think so for all the immature ones spamming sh!t in the ALL channel. 3-4 immature asshats can completely clog up the ALL channel even if there's a hundred mature players, that's just a sad fact of life.

Free advice, take it for what it's worth... Saying that you're a husband & wife team is setting you up for abuse by the asshats; just say you're a team, or guildies. Also, I'm sorry to say that it's always a bad idea to let on that you're a real actual woman - that in itself is sufficient to cause mental meltdowns and soiled shorts for many of the people in the PvP arenas. This is not unique to guildwars, but goes for all on-line games.

Z'HA'DUM

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

E/Me

30 Jul 2006 at 13:39 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kidney Licker

Change to Europe server.

im in the european district and i can assure you that it is not better there!
First of all: this is the internet. dont expect mature people, since you are anonymous nearly everywhere, even someone thats over 30 years old can act like a complete idiot, because he cannot do that in real life! you will see this kind of behavior even here at the forums or at other forums. dont give away any kind of private informations, already such as you being married. people abuse such places for making people angry and being perverse. in real life, and you can be sure about that, alot of these people wont be like that, since they cannot be anonymous as easy as in the internet. rather feel pity for these fools, rather than getting too angry about it... the internet is just like that, it doesnt matter if its an internet chat or an online game...

Nikki Moonlight

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Brighton, England

Ice Cold Elements [ICE]

Mo/

30 Jul 2006 at 14:01 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Free advice, take it for what it's worth... Saying that you're a husband & wife team is setting you up for abuse by the asshats; just say you're a team, or guildies. Also, I'm sorry to say that it's always a bad idea to let on that you're a real actual woman - that in itself is sufficient to cause mental meltdowns and soiled shorts for many of the people in the PvP arenas. This is not unique to guildwars, but goes for all on-line games.

QFT..

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

30 Jul 2006 at 14:06 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent Kitty

In that case the EULA is in error. The box states 12+, which means that people can play this at the age of 12.

Mind you that doesn't stop people who's mental age/maturity is at or below 12 being around. This forum's starting to show signs of that too unfortunately, but that's another topic for another day.

Short version: welcome to the internet, where anonymity reigns supreme and the worst in people comes out.

I agree though, do not give out your private details e.g. husband/wife or particularly that you're female - really, that's just asking for trouble. It shouldn't be that way but it is, so that's probably the best thing to do, outside of friends you've made via guild/friends list etc.

Overnite

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

30 Jul 2006 at 14:09 - 40

Sorry but I'm only acting mature in games with monthly fees and the ones that have ingame ways of reporting abuse. Acting mature is no fun and there's really no point to it. Have a nice day !