Why don't you PvP?

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Crimson Ashwood
Crimson Ashwood
Frost Gate Guardian
#1
I'm like many other people, I just do the PvE thing, run around, kill stuff, do missions, complete the game again for the sake of it... do a few chest runs here and there, perhaps some two man SS/SV - 55 love.

I've tried PvP before, it's not that I don't like it, it's rather than the learning curve is rather steep for it (I feel). Maybe I'm just a raving noobulator with a worthless set of PvE characters, or maybe I hate losing because I'm childish... but, it's quite a knock to somebodies confidence when you rock in to PvP with your fully worked on PvE character (not having read a forum or a wiki) to get destroyed and pounded by Mr. clever build and his tactics.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, good on them I say... PvP people usually put a lot of effort into what they do. So I'm certainly not trying to take anything away from them or complaining about PvP at all.

The only PvP I can handle, is the Ascalon 1 - 10 arena... entering there out of presearing I was confronted by Mr. Drok's armor McPoison arrow, and your mate Mr. Life Transfer Necro, and everyones favorite tweaked and pimped out max wielding Warior Monk.

I can handle this, because after being power slapped to the ground there many times enetering in my new Ascalon armor I decided to seek vengence against those people. So a purpose built iW mesmer was born, who's quite effective at taking down those who took me down. I still feel like a dog there though... elite skills, 15k armor and max weapons surely weren't intended to be there... so with every strike of iW, it's vengenace for for those who entered there after pre-searing to be met with a world of max item and elite pain.

Anyways, wrap it up b, I'm just asking what deters you from entering the world of GW PvP? Is it the players? The difficulty of the build? The sense of weakness you feel? ...
fiery
fiery
Banned
#2
The grind of fame and rank. PVP is fun with people you know on TS or Vent and have played with each other before.
Azrael1309
Azrael1309
Academy Page
#3
This is why:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10015599

But to further explain, its due to the lack of originality. I know, I know, people stick to what works, but I wish more people tried things outside the box. GvG has never been as bad though.
Feminist Terrorist
Feminist Terrorist
Desert Nomad
#4
I don't PVP for many of the OP's stated reasons. Steep learning curve, no one to teach me what's what, and the fact that I enjoy PVE much much more. There, I feel challenged and get some satisfaction at progressing. In PVP, I'm all confused, turned around, not knowing what's going on or who to target, and then, usually, dead. Being dead is not fun.
llsektorll
llsektorll
Desert Nomad
#5
Its the feeling of knowing nothing in a region of the game that is not easy to break into... hence people resort to iway... but tossing that aside.. good pvp is not made by only one person but 8 good players its hard to find a group or be accepted as a newbie.
Artdeux
Artdeux
Academy Page
#6
I don't have a PvP Slot, and I don't have access to the ability to buy more. >_O
Seef II
Seef II
Desert Nomad
#7
The time investment required, mainly. And being in a pve guild. I'm satisfied with RA for now.
Opeth11
Opeth11
Desert Nomad
#8
Because I'm too used to Diablo 2-style PvP. Quick, amusing, stupid, simple.

Don't get me wrong, the PvP in Guild Wars is great, but it's just not my style.
KiRi
KiRi
Lion's Arch Merchant
#9
I've just started pvping recently and what stopped me before was simply that I don't have the time to do it on a regular basis...which always left me out of the loop on the current "popular build"...
Not saying that in the sense that I'm going to be using it, just that way i can know how to completly destroy it
Ecklipze
Ecklipze
Lion's Arch Merchant
#10
Used to PvP, up until recently when the big update made PvPing impossible
Rent
Rent
Lion's Arch Merchant
#11
Having my old GvG guild fall apart.

: (
Coridan
Coridan
Forge Runner
#12
For me its a matter of "not knowing" what to do.....I go to the PVP forums on this site and they are like XXX build or UBERDUBER BLAH build can stop UHOH build....doesn't make sense to me. IF there was a good help "FAQ" with all the latest do's and don'ts I think alot more people would PVP....can feel the flames coming
Mega Storm
Mega Storm
Frost Gate Guardian
#13
Good question...why?..because i'de rather (cheezy british accent) "slay tha beasts!" not "get my ass handed to me while trying to have fun just because some group or guild is despiratly clawing at some kind of fame/rank to get to the top by using someone elses build posted all over the internet"

and my thing is shorter to say

I dono why really. I enjoy the thrill of the mission or quest more than I like to see coppycat builds mocking your build when you enter PVP areas. These little "leet" kiddies can have their PVP area and i'll just be happy out in lala land where rank and emotes of animals mean nothing to me while I play with my friends and kill things all day for the fun of it.
tomcruisejr
tomcruisejr
Banned
#14
its the "The sense of weakness you feel" (e.g lack of self confidence, fear of sucking, mindful of what others think, sensitivity to meaningless words)

there's a workaround tho. just build up confidence by playing regularly, practicing and trying hard to improve. then the sense of weakness will gradually go away.
Darth Marth
Darth Marth
Lion's Arch Merchant
#15
There, I feel challenged and get some satisfaction at progressing. In PVP, I'm all confused, turned around, not knowing what's going on or who to target, and then, usually, dead. Being dead is not fun.

EXACTLY! I also agree with OP; steep learning curve, feels alienating and confusing. I don't even see the importance of PvP bulds; in the confusion and randomness, my best-laid plans are always made useless. Worst of all, though, is the uncertainty of winning. In PvE, sufficient planning and teamwork allow you to triumph in any situation. In PvP, 50% of the players have to lose; how is that fun? I've been terrible at PvP every time I've tried it and felt alienated; it's too challenging and confusing for experimenting with new builds to be fun at all. I heard Nightfall will be more PvE oriented; I can't wait.
Ulivious The Reaper
Ulivious The Reaper
Desert Nomad
#16
1)if i don't have a certain build i'm kicked
2) if i don't have a certain skill i'm kicked
3) It's to much of a hassle to spam for hours lfg because i'm not rank 3+
4) To much grind involved which is why i have this game, be cause theres little grinding
5)No real positive comes from it

Reasons i do:
1) Pve esque areas like Alliance battles and Fort aspenwood, both are pretty much random and 100% killing
2) i need faction to beat .. well factions!
3) i can unlock skills to buy them in PvE (not the elites)
4) i can get experience
5) Amber?
kirgr526
kirgr526
Academy Page
#17
There are a couple of reasons I don't PvP:
1. Time, I just don't have enough to keep up with the curve or to improve myself to a level where I can compete successfully.
2. I'm just not that good at it. I don't know why, but I can make a really effective build in PvE, but in PvP any build I create ends up on the floor begging "please, sir, stop hitting me!"
3. My guild is pretty much PvE anyway.
4. I don't like losing when I'm not even competitive. I understand that that is what I should expect when I am inexperienced, but getting my butt handed to me repeatedly to eventually get the necessary experience is not as attractive as PvEing.
Ultimately, I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything by not PvPing. I love the PvE side of this game, especially for a casual gamer like me
DFrost
DFrost
Krytan Explorer
#18
Getting good in PvP would require serious practicing, and I don't really feel like it, I have more than enough stuff I need to practice in real life. I like knowing that when I get to launch GW I can just kick back and relax.
T
Toxage
Krytan Explorer
#19
I <3 To PvP in Guild Wars but unfortunately I can’t do it often.

1)Since I am a low rank I am forced to spam for endless hours.
2) As soon as you finally get a group together people will rage quit on there first loss
Plix
Plix
Academy Page
#20
I've been a strict PvE player from the start but recently I've delved into PvP a little. Although sometimes it seems that most monsters out there have more smarts than the average RA PvPer, I still play around there and am learning the way of the "PvPer" gradually. It's a slow and annoying process of fending off Touch Rangers and other various nuisances.

I haven't gone into Team Arenas or even close to GvG because I just dont have a guild or anyone who is really interested in PvP, but the way I see it, I should spend more time in RA before joining one. The easiest way is to just set mini goals like unlocking certain skills or runes, mods, etc and before you know it, you'll have some decent PvP experience under your belt.