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Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

13 Nov 2007 at 22:38 - 121

Quote:

Originally Posted by xeroqs

i mailed the guildwars team and they said this:

so i think there is still chance(hope so).

no

that is the standard response to something they do not handle.

they handle account/running the game problems not content suggestions.

the programmers said over a year ago it is a game engine/tech issue and not only will not be done but cannot be done without major work they are putting to better use on new content

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

14 Nov 2007 at 03:22 - 122

Quote:

Originally Posted by xeroqs

i mailed the guildwars team and they said this:

Hello,

Thank you for taking the time out to write us about which background you would like for your login screen. We would ask that you please share your idea on one of our various fansite forums: http://www.guildwars.com/community/fansites/ as members of our team read these forums daily, and putting the ideas out there for others to comment on allows us to judge feedback on a greater scale. We hope this helps!

Regards,

The Guild Wars Team

so i think there is still chance(hope so).

Agree with Loviatar. That is the automated response. They didn't even read your e-mail.

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

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15 Nov 2007 at 11:58 - 123

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Agree with Loviatar. That is the automated response. They didn't even read your e-mail.

Like they ever do.

~the rat~

Wulfgast

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Louisville, KY, US

Rite of Passage [RP]

W/Rt

15 Nov 2007 at 15:43 - 124

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Agree with Loviatar. That is the automated response. They didn't even read your e-mail.

QFT. Amazing idea, but it will never happen. I don't mean to bring everyone down with pessimism, but I'm just losing a lot of faith here, and it all started with the HoM botch. They're really gearing all of their resources on GW2, and keeping us "sated" with Izzy-nerfs.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

15 Nov 2007 at 18:00 - 125

[QUOTE]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wulfgast

QFT. Amazing idea, but it will never happen.

the head programmer explained over a year ago when they changed it the first time.

it is a major not programming issue so forget it.

Quote:

I don't mean to bring everyone down with pessimism, but I'm just losing a lot of faith here, and it all started with the HoM botch.

the HOM has not been botched as what Anet said is what was delivered.

the minipets were straightened out fast.

all the rest was hearsay that became fact cuz i herd it somewhere.

Anet stated some GWEN weapons not my favorite green/rare/torment/etc so no botch there

Anet said specific SETS of armot not mix and match so no botch there

Anet said no storing of items in the monument so no botch there

Anet said the HOM would be used to unlock items to a linked GW2 account so we wait to see if it works or not.

Anet said each character would have their own HOM so no botch that it is not account based instead of character based.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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15 Nov 2007 at 18:15 - 126

[QUOTE=Loviatar]

Quote:

the head programmer explained over a year ago when they changed it the first time.

it is a major not programming issue so forget it.

the HOM has not been botched as what Anet said is what was delivered.

the minipets were straightened out fast.

all the rest was hearsay that became fact cuz i herd it somewhere.

Anet stated some GWEN weapons not my favorite green/rare/torment/etc so no botch there

Anet said specific SETS of armot not mix and match so no botch there

Anet said no storing of items in the monument so no botch there

Anet said the HOM would be used to unlock items to a linked GW2 account so we wait to see if it works or not.

Anet said each character would have their own HOM so no botch that it is not account based instead of character based.

Your forgotting...
A) Adding destroyer weapons to the HoM at the time of release would cause them to be customized without the +20% damage bonus (since fixed).
B) Bugs with the incorrect mask being displayed with armor
C) Bugs with armor appearing as the wrong color
D) Being character, rather then account based, while not a bug, is still a poor bit of implimentation

Several things in the HoM were poorly tested. I agree with your basic premiss that most of the complaining came from people's high expectations. But still, the HoM was the BIG selling point of GW:EN, and it should have been flawlessly implimented instead of having multiple bugs at launch.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

15 Nov 2007 at 18:39 - 127

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Several things in the HoM were poorly tested. I agree with your basic premiss that most of the complaining came from people's high expectations. But still, the HoM was the BIG selling point of GW:EN, and it should have been flawlessly implimented instead of having multiple bugs at launch.

personal opinion here but HOM was never a major anything except to a small hardcore group where it was everything.

2 examples

1. PCGamer article gives it a small box in a 10 page article as a feature that is unplayable and has no effect on playing the game

2. the two part 16 minute e3 video presentation has the HOM in the last minute+ of part 2. all the rest was on what it was all about which was GWEN not a dormant feature which will not be activated until GW2 and it has a linked account.

HOM is a meaningless spot on the map until GW2 comes out and was advertised as a nice feature for GW1 players like an easter egg i was there type thing and not the main feature

Wulfgast

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Louisville, KY, US

Rite of Passage [RP]

W/Rt

15 Nov 2007 at 19:23 - 128

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

the head programmer explained over a year ago when they changed it the first time.

it is a major not programming issue so forget it.

That doesn't keep it from being an awesome feature idea, but like I said, it's not going to happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

the HOM has not been botched as what Anet said is what was delivered.

...off-topic rambling...

I'm not going to get in an OT war here. Go post junk like this in one of the many HoM threads.

Back on topic, switching character selection screens seems like something the programmers should have thought of a very long time ago. Does anyone know if there were technical reasons provided, or was it just "impossible"?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

15 Nov 2007 at 19:49 - 129

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wulfgast

That doesn't keep it from being an awesome feature idea, but like I said, it's not going to happen.

Back on topic, switching character selection screens seems like something the programmers should have thought of a very long time ago. Does anyone know if there were technical reasons provided, or was it just "impossible"?

jeff strain stated major conflicts due to the graphics upgrade and ths major change needed for panning the camers over all the added characters instead of the static original 4 character screen in whuch the chosen character moved to you.

straight tech issue as if it were simple they usually give it to us

Dograzor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Circle of Life (AURA)

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21 Nov 2007 at 21:14 - 130

/signed

Well, Gaile can say alot, but:

1. They just made a GWEN background, so i believe that they can use that code incase its too hard to update the old ones and use thesame skin.....

2. They can at least try to keep GW1 attractive, this should be able to be done... "impossible" doesnt excist in the pc world....

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

21 Nov 2007 at 21:48 - 131

[QUOTE]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dograzor

/signed

Well, Gaile can say alot, but:

1. They just made a GWEN background, so i believe that they can use that code incase its too hard to update the old ones and use thesame skin.. ...

learn to read grasshopper.

not Gaile but Jeff Strain as in lead programmer.......??

Quote:

jeff strain stated major conflicts due to the graphics upgrade and ths major change needed for panning the camers over all the added characters instead of the static original 4 character screen in whuch the chosen character moved to you.

Dograzor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Circle of Life (AURA)

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22 Nov 2007 at 01:32 - 132

[QUOTE=Loviatar]

Quote:

Jeff strain stated major conflicts due to the graphics upgrade and ths major change needed for panning the camers over all the added characters instead of the static original 4 character screen in whuch the chosen character moved to you.

hmmm alright... but i still think that he can do it but just doesnt want to put the work in it..... and what is so different between the factions, NF and GWEN background... they seem to be based on the similar engine while the campfire is diffferent... cant we at least have these 3?

GiZMo

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

SoCal

Dyed Black [db]

Mo/A

28 Jan 2008 at 04:32 - 133

Yeah in my opinion it's more like they're lazy about it instead of actually not being able to do it.

I wish my character selection screen could be back to the prophecies way

Factions was nice too

NamelessBeauty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Michigan State University, East Lansing, MI

Mo/

28 Jan 2008 at 14:58 - 134

You girls......no comment lol!

Isn't it would be better if you can custom your background? lol! Like putting where your char stand and stuffs lol.

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

28 Jan 2008 at 15:05 - 135

then it should be doable with faction, nightfall, and gwen screens. I can understand the origanal, but those 3 has the exact same format, just difference backgrounds.

agrios

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

South America

Naked Stalkers of America[Nude]

W/

28 Jan 2008 at 20:51 - 136

/signed

I love the campfire

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

28 Jan 2008 at 20:56 - 137

/signed
want the one from nightfall back

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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28 Jan 2008 at 21:06 - 138

But we don't need the campfire, it would be nice, but most of uf just ask for the background and scenario.

Just the same layout like now:
- One character.
- 4..26 portraits
- Character info.
- GW store and extra info on special offers in shop.
- Lower bar of buttons.

You keep that, and change the background and the scenario.
Prophecies: One single character by the campfire, Seared Ascalon around.
Factions: One single character on top of a rock, the Shing Jea sea around.
Nightfall: One single character on top of a rock, the Istani sea around.
Eye of the North: One single character on top of a mountain, the shiverpeaks around.

Just that.
I just hope they didn't deleted the old files...

Ephidel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

[EE]

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29 Jan 2008 at 06:34 - 139

I like GW:EN's, but there's only so long I can look at snow before I want to see a different season.

The Factions one was, in my opinion, the best of the four. I hope someday ANet implements this, so that I can see it again.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

29 Jan 2008 at 07:27 - 140

/signed!!!!
I HATE the eye background, when I take screenshots everything looks blue. I liked the nightfall one, and the factions one wasnt bad either (I can understand why they would not be able to re-implement the campfire, my 27 toons wouldnt fit on the screen, but the other backgrounds were around when they implemented extra character slots...and who cares about the store link?).
Bring back the other backgrounds!!!

Sunyavadin

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

N/

29 Jan 2008 at 16:03 - 141

I'm willing to bet a third-party chapter background mod wouldn't be too difficult to pull off. We have texture/model tweaks, replacements and mapping mods already.
There may be difficulties in how the engine handles them however, I know Eye of the North is the only one which my old system's 9250 card displays all broken up and with clearly visible lines, so it's possible they changed how it applies the textures. As a result Proph/Factions/NF backgrounds for the main screen may display broken, or not have the textures wrap properly.
What we need is for someone to try ripping the resouces for one campaign's main screen and overwrite the EOTN one with it.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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29 Jan 2008 at 16:38 - 142

What I know for sure is that the Eye of the North login skin may use a much more postprocssing and shaders if you activate the options.

Zamorakk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Team of the North

W/

26 Mar 2008 at 09:31 - 143

/signed

The eotn music ist just totally !##@! The prop music was so beautiful

And also walking in eotn is harder for a machine than walking in prophecies, on my old rig i got 30fps in prop's and 13fps in eotn, but now i get 60fps everywhere

wanmoke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

In the land of Do Not Disturb

Wind Riders

R/

26 Mar 2008 at 15:07 - 144

/signed

Even though they've said it can't be done from a coding standpoint.

Twonaiver

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

S??o Paulo Brasil

R/

26 Mar 2008 at 17:21 - 145

/Signed

just sugested this on a thread about remembering the old screen, id like to be able to switch the screens and also the music, i sure want the old guild wars theme back those remakes suck.

Tiberis

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

Brotherhood of the Red Rose

12 Jun 2008 at 02:12 - 146

I think this is a very good idea and must be seriously considered. It is a non-essential kind of update to the login background but it'll b ea great reminder for those who have been playing the game for a long time and have seen the different login backgrounds and miss them. Also for new players who simply want a change. Definitely a must-do for Anet, if not out of respect for those who have been playing Guild Wars since the beginning then simply for aesthetic value.

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

12 Jun 2008 at 02:45 - 147

May or may not have posted here already.

/signed. I miss some of those logins, mainly because of the music.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

12 Jun 2008 at 02:47 - 148

My game experience is being seriously diminished by not having this option...

/endsarcasm

What does it really matter?

NickelPlate

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

N/E

13 Jun 2008 at 17:47 - 149

/signed

I miss the original login screen/music theme.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

13 Jun 2008 at 18:04 - 150

Yes please, it'd be sexy.

doudou_steve

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

Canada

Guildless QQ

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13 Jun 2008 at 21:09 - 151

/signed

But it might never happens, as someone said (i don't remember who) each time Anet was changing a log-in screen, they needed to modify a code (or kinda )which cant be inverted after...

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

13 Jun 2008 at 21:11 - 152

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickelPlate

/signed

I miss the original login screen/music theme.

So do I...

/signed if I didn't already

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

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18 Sep 2008 at 20:05 - 153

Shot at 2008-09-18

***** DISCLAIMER ******
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Let me know if the Pictures do not work.

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1) Into
2) Purpose (rants)
3) Ideals (my 2 cents)
4) It can/can't be done
5) Closing
6) Misc/Edits

1) Intro
Hello Guru's. I've been playing GW for 2 years now. I’m an elite guru member going on a year and half. I will continue to do both as long as the game is around and people to enjoy it with. I don't post much but only when I need or feel it. so here it goes.

2) Purposes
Like most of you I want some change. Some call it balance. I could go on about AN AUCTION HOUSE! Adding Heroes/Henchmen to a lost or disconnect human player. ETC... Let’s just focus on this one ideal.

So here's a wiki page on how the login screen looked in the past.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Char...lection_screen

2A) I know Anet and NCsoft have to make money. Welcome to the real world. They have to promote there latest product. Most us love our 95 Honda civic (or other car) if you don't have one or care oh well keep reading. So I don't blame them for keeping the Login screen to the newest, freshest, and coolest screen. It's advertising space
2B) I could be wrong. Maybe all the dev's and people are working on GW2 and will come back to GW1 when they have time. Maybe, like the auction house, all the codes there but just not turned ON. Maybe GW2 login screen will run GW1?
2C) So far 78 have signed this thread where 4 disagree. 8 Have liked the ideal but not signed off. 11 have commenting on tech issue, GG statements or a just a comment in general.
2D) My eyes are sick of Eye of the north. I love the Factions music and screen.

2F) From the thread it self
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=146

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiberis

....It is a non-essential kind of update to the login background but it'll b ea great reminder for those who have been playing the game for a long time... ...if not out of respect for those who have been playing Guild Wars since the beginning then simply for aesthetic value.....

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...5&postcount=71

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

It's not about the GUI, but about the background.
This thread wants the theming, not the way characters appeared or were made.

3) Ideals

Everything is applied after a restart. Unlike video that changes on the fly. The Default always be the newest game or campaign. ****YES I KNOW when I was making the Photoshop pics I could eliminate “Eye of the North” as a choice****

3A) have a check box at the buttom of the log in screen.

Shot at 2008-09-18
3B) Have it in the Option menu.

Shot at 2008-09-18

hum... FYI... in case your not sure how to get to the option menu

4) It can/can't be done

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=104

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

This has actually been suggested multiple times before. And yes Gaile has come out and posted on threads requesting that it is quote "impossible" to do.... I can't find the post exactly, but Gaile has bluntly said "no" to this.....

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=114

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryann380

Anet has already addressed this issue before and their answer is "No".

Look Look Look i'm NOT calling any one out! I'm just quoting that GG has said stuff in the past or people have heard. So all I have to say is money talks. I may have to research this more. But i know this can be done.

@ HawkofStorms

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

....No, no it can't....

LOOK i never said "Would they do it" or "how it can be done" I don't care if do or don't. So your telling me if Anet + NCsoft PAID the old or new programmers and developers to do it, they can't do it? weird. talk about a "challenging job position". I'm glad i didn't go into programming and stuck w/ hardware.

@MithranArkanere and Sniper22
yep i agree. I'm sure if money and resources weren't a problem they do it. But money talks

So yes "i know they can do it"

5) Closing

So before this comment get's flamed or trolled and buried i want to say thanks for looking and reading. If you dislike or hate my ideal... oh well... But i'm sure in the Big picture this doesn't matter. I think most online games hardly change their login screens. But I wanted to put some time and effort and suggest some ideals for my favorite game. I pray somehow the dev teams or on the GW wiki they get linked to this ideal and reads and we get some feedback or comments.

So I like to say /signed

6) Misc/Edits
Links for the pictures in Order JIC
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/207...9rezinesu0.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5864/gw405tagsuy5.jpg
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/143...ropdownqn6.jpg
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/476...narrowsrv9.jpg
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/9898/gw415byeof7.jpg
**Edit** Added a comment or two about "can/can't they

Shot at 2008-09-18

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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18 Sep 2008 at 21:18 - 154

"You know it can be done". No, no it can't. It is about the added functionalities that have been added to the login screen (in game store link, ability to sort characters, ability to display more then 4/6/8/8+ character slots) which had not exited on previous versions.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

18 Sep 2008 at 21:56 - 155

Yup, they would have to take the latest screen, the older models, music, skins and effects, and mix them to make completely new screens.

But even if we can't choose, it would be GREAT if they changed the screen each season:

- Prophecies-like for Outumn
- Factions-like for Spring.
- Nightfall-like for Summer.
- Current Eye of the North for Winter.

That way there's no need to add a a way to choose, the change is mad for everyone (the only way possible right now), but we get actual changes once in a while.
Being cyclical it could be also automated like Zaishen tonics.

Sniper22

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

18 Sep 2008 at 23:26 - 156

Well can't you just make new screens using the new character slots but just mimicing the old music and background picture?

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

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22 Sep 2008 at 08:29 - 157

/signed

I never saw the Prophecies and Factions screens in use. (only in screen capture movie) I liked the Factions one. I know ANet already said they could not easily add this feature but on the other hand: the content is still there (assuming they DO make backups

) so only the selection system should be programmed. Knowing the skills of the dev team this should not be an impossible task. (Understatement)

Yol

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

GameAmp Guides [AMP]

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22 Sep 2008 at 14:47 - 158

I started playing GW when the login screen changed to Factions (the first screenshot I took showed the logo for the Factions preview event), so I missed the campsite screen. I would love to be able to choose the Factions login screen, for the sea view, the whale, the lightning striking over the volcanoes, and the music was beautiful. If the current game engine doesn't allow for the old screens to be shown then that's a shame.

A question of naivety......has anyone tried using texmod to replace the current login screen with captures of the previous login screen backgrounds?

Dr.Jones

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

22 Sep 2008 at 17:57 - 159

along with this i would want a more ways to be able to sort though my toons. like by least played and most played, by birthdays, ect...

t3dw4rd0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Liars Cheats and Thieves [Liar]

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23 Sep 2008 at 22:42 - 160

/signed, for oldskewl music too.