Livingston's Guide to becoming a Grandmaster Elonian Cartographer! (No Map checks!)

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

17 Feb 2007 at 01:48 - 1163

99.1%... so blasted close, yet so far. I've looked everywhere and can't seem to work out where I'm missing space. Please help!

leareth

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

17 Feb 2007 at 03:36 - 1164

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommarrow

...
Leareth
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9765/learethot2.jpg
... This pushed me closer, to 99.4% - I visited every area and wall crawled
twice until I covered the area and started to leave your circle. Some areas
I wasn't sure if I gained anything or not.

I'll give you cash in game if you
help me close this title out!

Here's my latest shot.

http://angui.sh/gw/gw_99.4_1280x1024.jpg

EDIT: Pushed myself to 99.5% - the SE corner of the moon fortress helped.
Hard to tell I was missing something there.

EDIT: I also put together a U map (WARNING, LARGE 23MB FILE). If this is too
large, or the DL too slow, I can make a conversion - I was just worried about
losing quality. http://angui.sh/gw/99.5.png

EDIT: FINALLY!!!

Devil1979

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

Grievous Bodily Harm I

18 Feb 2007 at 14:06 - 1165

Hi i didnt want to ask for help but i feel like i have gone as far as i can with this after retracing my steps i have gotten to 99.8% and spent hours searching for the rest with no joy. 0.6% i gained through the help of this guide tyvm

anyways here is my map image at 1280 x 1024 i would be exreemly greatfull for any help Thnx in advance

http://www.andrea2756.karoo.net/DevilsMap.jpg

Tromador

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Monks Unleashed [MU]

19 Feb 2007 at 02:15 - 1166

Hi guys,

I'm on 99.8% and struggling now - though it's a whole lot easier than Cantha was. It could be just the endgame bit of Chantry, but I don't think it's that much. More than likely I've missed a spot here and there.

Any help much appreciated.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8523/gw128lw6.jpg 1280x1024

bugbuster

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

Mo/Me

19 Feb 2007 at 03:43 - 1167

Tromador,

I just had a quick look at your map ( I was bored waiting for the celestial Pig)

and I see that you missed two spots in the dynastic tombs ( NE and SE corner)

Good luck

Tromador

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Monks Unleashed [MU]

19 Feb 2007 at 11:26 - 1168

Really? Thought I had all that sucker. Stupid mission anyway

I'll give that a shot this evening. Thx.

spectre945OrderoftheDarkT

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Order of the Dark Templar

W/Mo

19 Feb 2007 at 23:22 - 1169

i went to the locations ya marked tommorow and im up to 99.5% and a little bit thank you. a few of them i didn't get anything cleared though idk if clouds shifted when i took the pic or if i am just retarted and couldn't figure it out but i took a new pic and here it is thanks for the help

Tromador

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Monks Unleashed [MU]

20 Feb 2007 at 00:13 - 1170

Yup, I *was* missing a tiny bit in the SE corner of Tombs, but chased down the last .1 elsewhere in Desolation.

Thanks all

cyber88

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

20 Feb 2007 at 05:07 - 1171

any kind souls still helping peeps like me in analysing maps?

i m at 99.7% i hugged everywhere but still not sure where i m lacking.

thx

p.s. i m a tyrian born character

edit. i didn't notice tat my map was oni 1024 x 768. made a bigger version. sorri for the trouble.

Tempy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Oregon

DOH

20 Feb 2007 at 05:19 - 1172

99.1% and pulling my hair out.

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

20 Feb 2007 at 08:48 - 1173

Is someone even going to look at all these posted maps?

Tempy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Oregon

DOH

20 Feb 2007 at 11:04 - 1174

They get to them when they can and its only been 5 days since the last posting of several maps.

Thanks in advance Tommarrow...you rock!!!!

DazUltra

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

True Cinema

W/E

20 Feb 2007 at 11:07 - 1175

Hiya,

Im stuck at 97.7% Elona and i cant find anywhere else

Can sum1 please compare my map for me plz?

http://i15.tinypic.com/2qnvz2d.jpg

Cheers

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

20 Feb 2007 at 13:38 - 1176

First of all, lots of thanks to Tommarow. Most spots pointed gave me extra %s, others gave nothing. So now I'm at 99.5% (and a half, unfogged some but not enough). Anyway, if anyone could take another look at my map, it'd be much appreciated.
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7236/gw412jh2.jpg

tommarrow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shyft Machine [MYTH]

20 Feb 2007 at 16:15 - 1177

I think I have decided to not do the maps anymore. Anyone who has posted a map before this post then I will get to it but any beyond this one I will not be doing. I may not get to all of them right away but I will.
RTSFirebat I was enjoying the Canthan New Year so I am sorry for not getting to your map around your schedule, that was very rude of me.

Congrats to all who have their titles.

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

20 Feb 2007 at 18:17 - 1178

tommarrow that's understandable. Nothing rude about it. Just wondering if the map checkers were all ok

I myself was busy making the Cantha New Year event guide if you used it?

Anyways I look forward to seeing you map, and its a shame your not doing them after this batch, but I guess its a load on your time.

cyber88

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

21 Feb 2007 at 00:31 - 1179

Thx tommarrow. It is perfectly understandable. I read this thread while mapping & I can see you've help a lot of people out there. Thx for giving people like us a hand. You've my respect.

Humanghost

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

P/W

21 Feb 2007 at 10:26 - 1180

Is it true that player can have Elona Grand Master Cartographer title without explore Dynastic Tombs?
I have 95,7% now and I don't know where is the rest (except Tombs).

Ahab The Great

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

[hOmE] - Hawks of Montenegrian Empire

21 Feb 2007 at 10:33 - 1181

Tommarow your help has been relentless (with the last instalment).

Truly i have a lot of respect for these people like Tommarow and Livingston who try to help others get the GMC title as well. Believe me whoever has no idea of it already: this is probably the most time-consuming title and annoying one as well to get in the game.

I am still at 99.4%...Livingston says 18 spots left, I think maybe 12?

Here is my map, could I have accurate spots shown please (aka not spots that its impossible to get to) whoever is nice enough to help, I will pay you back in some way..(help, green items, you name it).

Cheers!

Tromador

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Monks Unleashed [MU]

21 Feb 2007 at 13:59 - 1182

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humanghost

Is it true that player can have Elona Grand Master Cartographer title without explore Dynastic Tombs?
I have 95,7% now and I don't know where is the rest (except Tombs). I would estimate no chance. You'll need at least most of it mapped, even allowing for the leeway.

It's not *that* hard to do, to be honest - and you might even net yourself some hero armour along the way.

Just try to do it in stages, one corner at a time. Once you have a door open, use Junundu Tunnel as much as possible and take a running skill for the few bits that a worm can't get to.

If you completely map it, you'll probably be near on 98%.

Ormiel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Europe

[OLA]

21 Feb 2007 at 14:51 - 1183

Uff, now I have 99.1% map and I don't know where I can find 0.9%. Please, can any1 help me? I very need GMC

.
Can scan be fast? (screen 1280x1024)

http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=elonazc9.jpg

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

21 Feb 2007 at 15:02 - 1184

Ok from this point onward the posting of map requests is on-hold...

Tommarow has already stated he is quiting this after this final batch. All requests beyond this will be deleted.

tommarrow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shyft Machine [MYTH]

21 Feb 2007 at 17:39 - 1185

Macros Thanatos
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/766/macrosxw5.jpg

Countess Corpula
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/708/countessrx2.jpg

Divine Envoy
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/245/divineqc7.jpg

Ormiel
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8421/ormielzs1.jpg

Mtank325
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7623/mtankqf4.jpg

Eternity
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/756/eternityzo2.jpg

RTSFirebat
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2458/rtsfirefb1.jpg

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

21 Feb 2007 at 18:10 - 1186

Wowzer... looks like I've been missing a massive amount.

May I say a final thanks to tommarrow for all his hard work.

Tempy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Oregon

DOH

21 Feb 2007 at 22:31 - 1187

I got missed, but can understand...go have some fun Tomarrow.

Happy Hunting.

Macros Thanatos

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

France

Wisdom Of Old Warriors [WooW]

21 Feb 2007 at 22:41 - 1188

I FINALLY GET IT!!!!

you are the best tomarrow, without your assistance, I will be still far from the title.

thanks a lot !!!

Eternity

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Error Seven Operators [Call]

21 Feb 2007 at 23:23 - 1189

What can I say but THANK YOU!

Managed to get it with just half of the locations suggested, and I must say...some of those were so glaring, I'm almost embarassed to call myself a cartographer

Amazing work as always, and I'm sure we'll all miss your help and support in this thread. Thanks again, tommarrow.

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

22 Feb 2007 at 11:10 - 1190

Hm, slightly disappointed I'm not in that last batch. Ah well, guess I'll go look for a slightly less than legal way to get Photoshop...<.<

Thx anyway.

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

[L] [GET]

22 Feb 2007 at 11:19 - 1191

You can use Gimp as well. It's a free program and does the job pretty well.

If you are under 40 years old (and maybe even if you aren't), finding it and picking it up should come second nature to you.

Livingston

Humanghost

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

P/W

22 Feb 2007 at 15:09 - 1192

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirJackassIII

Hm, slightly disappointed I'm not in that last batch. Ah well, guess I'll go look for a slightly less than legal way to get Photoshop...<.<

Thx anyway. Simply - download 30 days trial. :-)

Uff 96,6%. Still without Tombs. :-)

tommarrow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shyft Machine [MYTH]

22 Feb 2007 at 16:58 - 1193

Congrats to Macros and Eternity, you are very welcome for the assist.
I still have some more to do I am just doing it in stages. Tempy and Sirjackass you will be in the next group.
Livingston is correct about Gimp, that is the program I use and it is 100% free to use. Using this software it is so easy to compare maps that I wish more people would try to do this since then you can say you got the title on your own. Then you can go to the other chapters and get them if you haven't already.
Go to page 1 of this thread and read up on how to do this using your "M" map. I had never used any photoshop type software before but was able to do this on my first try. I find it is easier to just turn the top layered map off and on then it is to use the difference filter.

Starky

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Croatian best players [CrO]

P/Mo

22 Feb 2007 at 18:36 - 1194

Where i can download that Gimp, can you write me addres?

Ormiel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Europe

[OLA]

22 Feb 2007 at 18:49 - 1195

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ormiel

http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=elonazc9.jpg Tommarrow can you scan me that map? It's 1280x1024, now I have 99.5%. Last scan gave me 0.2%.

Starky --> http://www.gimp.org/ It's gimp adress.

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

22 Feb 2007 at 19:09 - 1196

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starky

Where i can download that Gimp, can you write me addres?

That'd be here I guess: http://www.gimp.org/

Quote:

Tempy and Sirjackass you will be in the next group. Ah. Tyvm. I've managed to get a hold of some Photoshop (wasted my trial by doing Tyria myself) and can't seem to see any spots left on my current Elonian map. Then again, I'm probably not as experienced as you are.

Starky

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Croatian best players [CrO]

P/Mo

22 Feb 2007 at 21:10 - 1197

Thanks for adress Ormiel and SirJackassIII

tommarrow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shyft Machine [MYTH]

22 Feb 2007 at 21:20 - 1198

Ormiel you need to be patient. I just checked your map. There are other people ahead of you now.

When comparing maps remember the higher the resolution the easier it is to find the differences. What makes it easier to do it yourself is that you can actually see what is not uncovered instead of just seeing a circle somewhere in the area you need. You can switch back and forth from the map to the game and uncover the spots as you find them.
Sometimes when I am comparing a map I can not tell if it is a spot you need, the cloud covering getting in the way, just a play of the shadows or the difference in quality between the two maps.
After having done several maps then starting up the game and seeing my U map, I am always in awe of how clear it looks after looking at these blurry maps. I'm sure Livingston can agree with this one.

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

22 Feb 2007 at 23:54 - 1199

tommarrow thank you so much. Thanks to you I got the title at long last. Thanks

cyber88

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

23 Feb 2007 at 02:03 - 1200

no prob tommarrow. i think it is basic courtesy to be patient when asking for help. dun worri abt mine. do it when u r free. u too must oso enjoy GW too.

Mtank325

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Crimson Blood Dragons [CBD]

23 Feb 2007 at 04:00 - 1201

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommarrow

Mtank325
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7623/mtankqf4.jpg Thanks a bunch again Tommarrow. Maybe in the future if you want to do the map-checking service again a system could be setup for only a certain quota per time period and charge for your services. I know I wouldn't mind paying a 5-10k fee for how much this has helped me.

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

[L] [GET]

23 Feb 2007 at 06:43 - 1202

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mtank325

Thanks a bunch again Tommarrow. Maybe in the future if you want to do the map-checking service again a system could be setup for only a certain quota per time period and charge for your services. I know I wouldn't mind paying a 5-10k fee for how much this has helped me. That's exactly what I did. Like tommarrow I did maps for people for free until it completely consumed my Guild Wars life (and most of my normal life as well). So after taking a break, which wasn't really much of a break as people were still asking me to check maps in game, I decided that instead of becoming a hermit and just refusing everyone who asked (and having these guides means everyone asks), that I'd set up a service to do so. This way I can at least have some gold to accompany my eyestrain and headaches, which I never have time to make in game like a normal person.

It's a bit more than 5-10K, but I guarantee that if you checked 100 maps in the course of a couple weeks, or spent weeks trying to find the last .7% on your map, you would agree that the service actually seems to be a bit cheap.

Here's the link:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10112904

I may not have as much experience with checking Elona as tommarrow has, but I think the number of maps I have checked in general far out weighs that.

In the past month alone I have checked 108 maps. That is since I have been charging for the service, before that when I was doing them on a volunteer basis, I was easily checking 4-5 times that number, and have been doing so for around 8 months. A rough estimate of that would equal 3-4000 maps. And the main maps I check are Canthan, which are the hardest to check of any of the continents.

So if you guys want your maps checked I'm your man.

Livingston