Emotes for all titles

Note: to the people /signing for PvE max titles:

Don't look at all PvE titles the same way. Having an emote for the first tier of explaring would be too much, indeed. However, having to transfer 10M factions to his alliance (aka: 25,000,000 jade arena runs for luxons for example) or having opened (what's the max tier?) 10k chests etc is WAY too much.

IMO, if there are PvE titles (and I still haven't decided if it's a good idea or not), you should have the following tier to do /bambi:

Cartographer: 100%
Protector: no /bambi
KOBD: 1st tier of course
Ally of..: 1st tier (heck transfering 250K factions is much longer than IWAYing his 180 fames)
Drunkard: 1st tier (yeah this is a stupid title - which is why I like it btw - but 1K is already a lot)
Wisdom and treasure: 2nd or 3rd tier (100 chests/golds is a joke)
Skill Hunter: 2nd tier

That's total bullshit ! why would pve'ers not deserve an emote ? Some pve titles deserve an emote, as ppl work very hard to get it and the title itself isn't very impressive !

/signed, if there are some pve titles too !

Emote for Champion (every 3 rank like Heroes), Gladiator (every 3 rank like heroes), Allegiance title (kurz/lux) probably also every 3 rank, for pver have emote for Titles Maxed (Kind of a big deal etc.) and perhaps emote for the new sunspear title starting from Legend.

defintaly a big
/not signed

Just because SOME people choose to iWAY to 180 fame doesnt mean we all did. Getting 180 fame the "right" way takes an insane amount of time. Noone wants you in their pug because you are unranked so people end up LFG in HA for HOURS, you make unranked pugs and get rolled match after match after match. Once you are past r6 or so, getting 180 fame is easy, but thats because you play with people who are generally decent now. Getting there however, is a different story.
Its too bad some people farm fame, but leave the fame emotes where they are. Dont cross them into pve.
I thought you got those emotes (and your little halo) for getting the attention of the Gods... earning fame (people in pve dont recognize each other as easily as people who pvp imo. Might have something to do with the fact that you remember who killed you more easily).

On that note :
3rd Rank Kurzick/Luxon or max title could get some sort of emote.
3rd Tier Glad titles and every 3 ranks.
3rd Tier Championship titles and every 3 ranks.
Kind of A Big Deal is the only PvE title that takes more than a little effort to gain.
/signed for above only

Any other incredibly easy PvE title does NOT deserve an emote. Giving everything an emote will make emotes not special.

Lets give luxon emotes please . Maybe more people will start joining and giving faction to their guild, instead of just those people that farm jade and amber

/signed again xD

Well, it takes a person that loves PvP and spends most of his/her time doing it to suggest that any additional emotes be only for PvP oriented titles. There is a great number of the community that rarely, if ever, participates in the PvP side of GW. Dare I say a good majority? I dare. However, I'm with the others that have said not every tier of every title should have an emote. My main has both GM Carts and Protectors. I'm working on others but it will be some time before I hit KoaBD. Even then, the title alone doesn't do it justice. In the meantime, achieving those four max tiers took time and dedication and it's not quite right to say that doing so was easier or is less meaningful than attaining rank 3 even. They are still achievements and anyone that's finally reached 100% of a map knows how good it feels to finally get there. I'd be all for a more visual way to show maxed titles, but less obtrusive to keep outposts and such "clean." I would say KoaBD deserves an emote on par with rank emotes though - even if I would never flash it because it feels boastful to me. Perhaps an emote for any maxed title, or possibly after two, four, six, etc., could be something like glowing armor (think bosses) for ten seconds. Heck, I'd even go for medal that hangs around the characters neck. :P In all honesty, I have yet to run into anyone in PvE that has looked at titles for selecting people when forming parties. Normally nobody even mentions them. On occassion I've heard or said, "grats on (title)," but that's it.

To anyone complaining about the idea:

What makes HA so special that it gets emotes?

I PvP all the time, every time I'm online. I hate HA, always have. I play GvG, TA, RA, even AB.

Why on earth wouldn't other forms of PvP get recognition. Winning your 500th GvG? 1000th? These actually are milestones too you know.

Why not give them out for PvE, for maxed titles? I agree that protector is ludicrously easy, but to anyone saying that cartography is easy, do you have cartography titles? Takes a lot of time, more than it takes to earn a deer in HA. Bambi is easy to get if you want it, cartography takes more work. Heck, with a good group people earn their bambi on the HA weekend ALONE. Try getting a cartographer title in three days. I've only played in HA a few times, maybe 10 runs total. I've won HoH 5 times, gotten two sigils. It's not hard to get bambi. Grandmaster is WAY more work.

To the PvE players who bash PvP: Grow up.

To the PvP players who bash PvE: Grow up.

Both are fun, both have worthy pursuits, and it won't hurt anyone to have new emotes.

I figure for cartography for example it could have levels too - for each land you have Grandmaster on you get a rank in it - thus a character with Tyrian, Canthan AND Elonian titles would have the rank 3 emote for cartography.

Emotes are fun, and shouldn't be restricted to people who happen to enjoy HA. HA is the least fun form of PvP in the game - I guess maybe they needed emotes to keep people playing it, but I think that anything that adds fun to the game is worth adding.

good statement! More 'stuff' is always cool.

I know HA is lame and getting fame is grind, but its still harder than anything in PvE.

Protector's : wow so you beat all the missions which you can just AFK through or do alone with 7 henchies

Cartographer : ok so you were bored and spent your time running around with your w/mo runner or 55monk getting the whole map, with random brainless NPC's who tried to stop you

Treasure Hunter : because opening chests takes skill

Skill Hunter : 55 for exp, then buy a load of cap sigs and kill bosses, any more to it?

Wisdom : You either play a lot or are very lucky

another PvE topic. /notsigned, emotes for pvp. pls.

I mentioned something about IWAYing his bambi in my last post - I don't know if your refering to that. If you are: I never said everybody who has r3 (or even the majority of them) IWAYed it, but I definitely tried to compare the time spent to earn PvE titles with the hero title track. And no even if you don't want to IWAY your rank 3, it doesn't take that long: it little bit more than a "double your fame" week-end I'd say

Now about the titles you mentioned: it took me one month farming factions everyday to get the friend of the luxons title. The 3rd tier is insane, and takes MUCH more time than getting r3. a r3 PvPer is common, a factions farmer with the 3rd tier is really uncommon. My alliance holded cavalon during one month and a half - there was only one guy in it I think with the 3rd tier.

Concerning the glad and champion titles (especially champion actually): same comment: compare them to the hero title track, and you'll see it's MUCH harder to have the 3rd tier of champion than getting 180 fame.

Concerning what you've said about KOBD: heck, I hope you have 100% Tyria and Cantha explored to say that

Quoted for... erm... ignorance (and arrogance I must add).

/sigh

Why is there a desire to degrade everything that others do? If you spend all of your time doing PvP why do you care what PvE players can gain? And vice versa I might add. I believe the thread is just suggesting emotes for more than one title track. Considering that there are two or three people playing GW that don't care for PvP, their goals and achievements differ and are PvE based. Why is a little 'bling' for them have to be seen as a bad or unearned thing?

I agree with pretty much everything except HA being lame or a grind.

That said, I do think the Gladiator and Champion title tracks should have emotes every three ranks similar to Tombs rank, albeit emotes with different graphics (ie. no deer, wolf, tiger like fame rank).

As for pve, I don't think the third tier of Allied Faction titles or KOaBD titles receiving emotes would be a bad idea either, but imo not every title track in the game deserves an emote. There are a lot of pve titles out there that are acquired simply by playing the game or mindlessly farming/grinding certain things - these should not receive emotes. PvP should have emotes as a sign of a milestone of experience or success, pve titles are too plentiful and easy to acquire for every one to receive an emote.

Some really ignorant posters who definitely only play one side of the game. I feel sorry for you, really I do.

Adding more to Guild Wars is always a good thing. Don't feel lessened because you don't PvE and they get an emote, be proud of your accomplishments, and let them be proud of theirs.

Try getting titles in both PvP and PvE before you start bashing the other on "grind", "lame", or "brainless NPC's".

/signed with some changes

they shouldnt be big and glowing anything could you imagine droks or la full of people emoting flashy things.....grrr that would be irritating.

maybe if you have a title maxed the char could do somthing like "act drunk" without being drunk as an example.....

if you where say protector of a land you could hold the liches/shiros head ....for a few seconds

ect ect

i dont want to see a huge emote that glows in pve that almost anyone can get....but a lil something would be cool.

I think it would work better as a symbol above the head like skill symbols (heal sig/PS/you-get-the-idea) but in town. Everyone flashing a huge yellow object would get rather annoying, yes.

Why would you feel sorry for people who play the part of the game they enjoy? That seems a bit silly and petty to me.
I'm pretty sure most pvpers do some pve, or at least have in the past. Especially since most people move on to pvp after doing pve for a while.

/not signed

I could deal with getting titles for Champ and Glad but thats it.

The point of the emotes is for being a HERO and taking HoH, and gaining the favor of the gods (for you PvE players who bash on us PvP players). So in a way its a reward for doing a little roleplaying.

TA=kill people
GvG=kill people
AB=huge joke, lower form of PvP than RA imo, but that isnt the point of the thread.

These other pvp titles dont involve being heros, its just fighting other people. This is why i dont think they have emotes.

Now I do a lot of PvP and a little PvE, and PvE players DO NOT deserve emotes at all... its just that simple. To get an emote (even tho i agree r3 is quite easy to get) it takes time and SKILL. PvE does NOT take skill... dont try to argue the point either cause i know. It just takes a lot of time, if you want to waste time runing around a map to get ur cartographer title, good for you and props for doing it, cause i dont have the patience for it, but, it does not take SKILL it just takes time and the right build. You dont have to play against humans, who can improvise, fake spike, call different tactics, run different build combinations etc... u fight NPCs, things who do the same thing every time you encounter them. So, once again, PvE is only grind, not skill thus does not deserve titles, because anyone can do all missions and run around the map, or rage quit out of groups before they die etc, but not everyone can be a good PvPer.

once again /not signed

in fact i will be extremely mad if they give titles to PvE players... thats just stupid.

And arguably some could say PvP is just as simple.



But I would be inclined to agree with you that PvE can take less skill than PvP. However, heros already get emotes and a title and if you add glad and champ to that it seems a little unfair; maybe they should only get one or the other, not both.

If this were the case then I think it would be fair that PvE earned 'titles' stay titles and not titles + emotes.

even iway takes some skill to execute properly :/ and no, arguing that PvP is just as simple as PvE is a completely invalid argument, and i hope whoever brings that up would be shunned from the GW community cause it is completely false. There is no GW Tank Championship, SEE HOW MANY TROLLS YOU CAN SOLO!!! but there is a GvG championship b/c it takes skill not, build.

once again PvE titles do not deserve emotes, simple as that, i think that HA should remain the only way to earn titles since it is PvP, with a little roleplaying scenario and it helps the PvE players enter their precious UW and FoW.

I'm a bit 50/50 here...
Ok it would be nice to have emotes for PvE things but like some have pointed out it would become a spamfest.
I myself am a PvE junky but i can imagine it would be too much of a good thing

/half signed

As long as its for maxed Titles in PvE its fine.
except for protectors and cartogropher. these you should only get emote for having completed 3 maps and/or 3 protectors.

don't see why rank 3 gladiator should get a differnt colered emote. not as fancy as HA but 2 crossed red and blue swords over the head sounds fine

No. We do not need any more people with their heads stuck up their asses because they have a stupid giant golden deer, which is the main thing wrong with PvP right now (see: comments such as "Get a rank, nub!"). PvE (which DOES take skill, and is not all about build. I'm not saying that PvP is all about build, so dont go there) does not need to exclude people.

/notsigned

Forgive the long post...

I agree that certain titles should have emotes. Gladiator, and Champion should have them for sure.

I'm also for maxed(Only maxed ones for the most part, since you DO get other rewards while PvEing) PvE titles like Savior of the Luxon/Kurzick(Yes, I consider ABs PvE content), Grand Master Cartographer(Maybe even plain Master Cartographer), KoBD and People Know Me. Savior titles take alot of dedication, more so than most titles, even though I will admit they don't take much skill to gain, it's not like you're profiting from attaining them. Maxed and near-maxed Cartographer titles also take alot of work and dedication, especaily if you do all the quests you can along the way and don't run them, since that means you've litraly completed 100% of the PvE content in the game, I'd say thats a significant PvE accomplishment. KoBD and People Know Me also show alot of work, even though alot of it could be simply purchased and not require any real effort(Surviror, Protector, Drunard, and Wisdom Titles).

I quite honestly do not think that Drunkard, Wisdom, Treasure Hunter, and Protector titles deserve anything aside from the ability to wear the title. The reason being is, they're either very easy to get, for example Drunkard, Wisdom, and Protector titles can all be done if you have enough gold, by buying Ale, Unid items, or paying people to do missions. Treasure hunter is the only one out of those that requires massive grind, in addition to alot of gold, and I wouldn't consider this to be a huge accomplishment, since you can easily get 80 chests an hour in the right places, and it doesn't take really any skill to actually run them. Meaning the only factor for it is free time and gold...



If you look at the tiering system for Champion and Gladiator, you'd find that it takes alot more time to get either title than it does to get Rank 3, in addition to requiring at least some amount of skill. Champion 1 takes 25 GvGs, above 1200 rating to get, most GvGs that will count are going to last 15-25 minutes. Meaning that this title is going to take at least 6 hours of play against descent opponents, in addition to requiring your guild and team to be good enough to stay in the 1200+ rating range. That's alot harder than getting 180 Fame.

As for Gladiator, rank 1 gladiator is 250 games, that were all part of at least a 10 win streak. Harder to get than a minimum 180 wins for rank 3 that don't require any consecutive wins, or any real minumum skill level. Oh, and Fame scales per consecutive win for rank 3, too.

I really think if you're going to impliment ranks for Champion and Gladiator, the very first rank should get an emote, maybe not give every single rank after that an emote, though, because that would create way too many emotes for theese titles after a time. level 1, 3, 6, 9, 12, 15... And so on sounds good to me. Even though there's an absolutly MASSIVE gap from levels 3 and 6 of theese titles, much more so than rank 3 to rank 6.




I think you're wrong about a few things here. You don't need to win or hold the hall of heroes even once to get a Hero title. Infact, I'd venture to guess that very few rank 3 players, and less than half of rank 6 players have ever won, much less held the hall of heroes. (I'm talking about *typical* players with theese ranks, not saying it's impossible for descent players, because it certainly is VERY possible)

As for GvG being just "kill people" I think that's blatently wrong. GvG has far more strategic mechanicisms than Heroes Ascent does, on ANY map in Heroes' Ascent.

Oh, and I'm very curious, in reply to another post you said "but there is a GvG championship b/c it takes skill not, build." Yet you claim that "GvG = kill people." I don't get it.


Some PvE titles don't deserve emotes, sure. But IMHO some PvE titles do.

Rank 3 does not take any skill, at all. Sure, it speeds it up. But I wouldn't call being able to pay people to famefarm for you, or just unranked IWAYing(and loosing 90+% of the time even) skilfull. It requires alot of time, or some time, and a good amount of money, the same thing most PvE titles require... I think you could argue that it's harder to explore the entire map with henchmen than it is to get rank 3.

I think emotes for some of the top PvE titles would be an excellent idea. PvP gets more than its fair share of attention, considering that it is really only an incidental entertainment set apart from the main Guild Wars.

I'd like to see emotes for more titles, but not an emote for every single rank.
I thinks they should be seperated into 2 groups: PVE and PVP.
PvP emotes should keep their repsective yellow/orange color.
PvE emotes should be a different color, like blue or green for example.
As PVE and PVP are 2 different aspects of the game, making the emotes completely different will allow to easily distinguish between the 2, and each emote will earn the respect it acctually deserves.

"You can't handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has walls. And those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall.
We use words like honor, code, loyalty...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something. You use 'em as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!"
- Col. Nathan R. Jessep (Jack Nicholson) in A Few Good Men

For some reason this came to mind. It seems that there are people that don't understand that there are different play styles involved in GW and that each individual's style means just as much to them. For each person that believes PvE is meaningless, there is someone else that believes PvP is. For someone to think that the world in GW revolves around you because you spend your time fighting in HA is obtuse and self-absorbed. There are many, many people who care less who wins HoH. Nobody is suggesting that emotes should be eliminated for HA players. Again, the thread is about adding something a little more visual to achievements other than one thing. I've played with and still do play with people that are very good players that never even consider going to HA. Much of that has to do with attitudes, but that's another topic. If they dedicated their time to PvP there is no doubt they would do well. However, they've chosen a different direction and they enjoy it. The officers in my guild have done each mission countless times, not only for themselves since they have numerous characters, but also to help each of our members reach their goals. To me they are the heros because they set aside personal schedules to do things multiple times to help others.

Ok. I gave it my best half-arsed shot.

Cartographer - Yes, globe is cool
Drunkard - Beer mug
Survivor - whoever comes up with this is a genius
Kurzicks - The animation you get when you drop an urn of victor
Luxons - The animation you get when you drop a spear of archy
KOBD - maybe a meteor falling on your head w/o the knockdown?
Skill hunter - the symbol of your primary prof
Prot of cantha - animation you get for completing masters on a mission
Prot of tyria - animation you get for doing bonus+mission
Treasure hunter - a chest being opened
Wisdom seek - a very arcane looking book being opened

nice one, i like those. I really wish they would do this ,most people think AB titles are useless...

Ridiculed, I like my glowing pink elephant better for drunkard :P

Erm doesn't PvP require the right build as well? And yeah, even in PvE you must be able to improvise...

I do respect PvP.
I do respect PvE.
I don't respect those who depreciate one aspect of the game. You may not like it, you don't have to say those who do are sub-players.

I and most of those who have worked on the cartographer title (100%) have repeated many times: you CANNOT run 100% of the map. And even if you run high-end areas, yeah it requires skills.

Just an example: yesterday I went with a guildie to Ice Caves of Sorrow to uncover the last 0.x% I needed. We could have joined PUGs, but we took the challenge to do this freakin mission with 2 men. We were not used to the map (I mean, not more than players who did the missions with their chars back in the days). And we made it. We improvised a build and after a couple of attempts we succeeded (and actually this time my guildie did most of the job). This is skill. And a pure PvPer couldn't do that. Not because he is a bad player - just because he wouldn't be used enough to PvE to improvise such a build.

Now, yeah some PvE titles can be "cheated". Yes you could get a prot title in leeching teams. Yes you could get a survivor title in being ran to droks and troll-powerleveld. However thinking most of the PvEers get their titles that is is completely ignoring what PvE in GW is. And I must add with this logic, ranks can be cheated the same way. You can leech a team also in PvP you know, at least to get r3...

So yes PvE titles require skills. Such a PvP titles. No need for depreciating something you don't like.

/signed.

/half-signed

There are so many titles I feel there is no need to make a million emotes, nor do we want people to start forming gay "running to <soandso> SHOW SKILL HUNTER EMOTE". But then again, such a thing can already be done by toggling your titles on and off.

A few aren't too bad, though.

Explorer: Perhaps one of those stereotypical "slashing through the jungle with a machete" anims.

Hehe...

lol nah

CHEST RUN SELF INVITE, SHOW EMOTE !! .

Because chest running is so uber hard to do !!!

Players can already ask to show the title, it's exactly the same, as stupid as it would be.

O look i used ViMWAY to get R3 now i can spam every time when i see somebody without R3+ and say that they suck in PvP because they don't got an emote..

some people really do not use common sense..

/signed, for certain titles at the max tier

/signed.

Maybe the cartographer emotes will be you looking around with binoculars. xD

r3+ gets an emote right?

Then why make it to where only max PvE titles get emotes? Yeah, I realize there will be people spamming like there is no tomorrow, but maybe for ever level of skill hunter you should get an emote.

Giving pvpers r3+ for emotes, thats only 1 title chain, right?

Don't give more than one PvE title an emote, just like PvP is now.


/signed.

No thanks, you get a title underneath name that is good enough.

OK, u missed understood my point. I know GvG isnt just killing people, seeing as how thas what i do. Its the highest form of PvP in the game that requires the most coordination and skill.

Now to re-state my point. Basically in HA, your ultimate goal is to take the Hall of Heros (I know some teams dont but thats for another forum). And by doing this you earn the favor of the gods. OK? Now, in GvG your goal is to kill the Guild Lord... see what imsaying? I think the HA emotes are there b/c By winning many PvP battles, u "help your country" and thus are a hero, worthy of a title and an emote.

Now, for those of you who say PvE does require skill, and PvP players couldnt do certain things (like 2-man ice caves), that is just ridiculous. Anyone can do this in PvE because all you have to do is see what is in the area you need to clear, then design SPECIFIC builds to either survive it or kill it. No skill is required just a little creativity maybe. It takes no skill to do. period.

Now, I know im bashing on PvE players a bit, but in all honesty I do quite a bit of PvE myself, not for fun but beacause i want my characters to look good. So before anyone decides to bash on me about PvE not taking skill hear this, I say this because i know this from experience. I've done all the PvE in the game and its mindless grind, thats it. If people want to PvE thats fine and dandy and I'm not gonna bash on you, but it doesnt deserve titles at all because all you have to do is grind.