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Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/E

11 Oct 2006 at 12:06 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faer

I'll tell you.

The x3 Drop Weekend is for drop rate, not drop quantity. That means that greens will be three times more likely to drop. That doesn't mean that if a green drops, three copies of it will drop.

Kanaxai will be unaffected by this event because he, like Urgoz, always drops his three green weapons. They will only drop three greens per run, no more, no less..

Hope that clears it up for you.

hum yes, since kanaxai drop is 100% that cant be incremented I suppose

thelessa

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Purple Puzycats

R/Mo

11 Oct 2006 at 12:11 - 82

I have never received a green drop in factions, and I have been playing since the release. I am hoping for some this weekend, but I am not holding my breath

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

11 Oct 2006 at 14:03 - 83

As I posted in the other thread, I've soloed (without henchmen) over 20 bosses while Elite capping on my Rit/E in Factions, and have gotten one green over that time - Lian's Lantern. I've killed countless other bosses while just playing the game, as well.

That changed this past weekend, while I was soloing the Arborstone mission - I actually got the Milefaun (sp?) domination staff from one of the bosses.

So, now I'm probably around 2 for 50, so this WOULD improve my chances to about 1 in 10.

P.S. For those of you who are farming greens, I'm 99% sure that, due to the anti-farming code, that if you've tried to get SSkai's Sword by killing him over 300 times...that code kicked in about 290 times ago, so you're basically wasting your time.

Chewbacca Defense

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

667 Neighbour of the Beast

Ttgr

11 Oct 2006 at 14:17 - 84

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warrior1986

How hard would it be to change the code for drops inside Sorrows Furnace? A line or two? That would take all of maybe 10 mins. It's not even an "upgrade." It's temporary change that will go back after the end of the weekend.

LMAO!! HAHA, how hard would it be to change the code for drops inside Sorrows Furnace? A line or two?

I work for a company that changed only one line of code and that cost us over 10 million dollars in 10 minutes because of that one line of code. Granted ANet isn't in high-rolling business, but change code isn't necessarily "that easy".

For proper code change, rigorous testing must be done in order to avoid any long term negative effects. A production requirement change typically requires at least 1 week worth of testing and documentation.

w00t!

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sorrow's Furnace Hot Tub

RoS

Mo/Me

11 Oct 2006 at 14:21 - 85

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetdoc

As I posted in the other thread, I've soloed (without henchmen) over 20 bosses while Elite capping on my Rit/E in Factions, and have gotten one green over that time - Lian's Lantern. I've killed countless other bosses while just playing the game, as well.

That changed this past weekend, while I was soloing the Arborstone mission - I actually got the Milefaun (sp?) domination staff from one of the bosses.

So, now I'm probably around 2 for 50, so this WOULD improve my chances to about 1 in 10.

P.S. For those of you who are farming greens, I'm 99% sure that, due to the anti-farming code, that if you've tried to get SSkai's Sword by killing him over 300 times...that code kicked in about 290 times ago, so you're basically wasting your time.

What you're stating is exactly in line with our calculations during hundreds of Sorrow's Furnace runs about a year ago.

Basically, we determined that there was a 2% chance per boss per person for a green drop. This is for real peoople, not hench.

I did SF runs with the same group for many weeks, both FA and Oro, and we found this rate to be relatively constant. Going with 5 was the best for cash accumulation, but going with 8 didn't diminish our individual chances for a green.

This calculation may not work for Factions in that the boss is only set to drop a single green, whereas in SF bosses could drop multiple greens per kill.

I don't have a lot of experience with Factions greens, as I find farming bosses in Factions boring, but I'd say that this weekend your chances should be somewhere in the 6-10% range for a green drop per boss.

Nice deflation of Canthan greens to come I'd say...

Da Scotty

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

London UK

TTR

N/Me

11 Oct 2006 at 14:26 - 86

Therre are enough Tyrian Greens around

Nice to get some new Cantha ones circulating.
And this makes it accessable to all players.

\ponders a minipet drop weekend

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

11 Oct 2006 at 15:14 - 87

So far, while playing Factions normally with a full hench team I've gotten
Lian's Lattern
Deathkeeper (shing jing green)
Wing's Axe
Merki's Gaze

Some of you guys who have never had anything drop either have really bad luck or just don't play as much as I do.

Burton2000

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

A cardboard box in England

Men Of Substance [YMCA]

Mo/Me

11 Oct 2006 at 15:23 - 88

Can finaly get some of those greens that i've wanted like everthorns.

GranDeWun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

11 Oct 2006 at 15:51 - 89

I wouldn't mind getting the Kaolin Blade from Sunjiang explorable. Did someone say this is farmable solo by E/A?! I find that hard to believe... this is the toughest district I've found in Cantha so far...

Nickhimself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Your face

True Gods Of War [True]

W/Mo

11 Oct 2006 at 17:08 - 90

They aren't supporting Tyria because they want you cheap asses to go out and buy their most recent expansion pack, which until the 27th rolls around...is still Factions.

They'll have weekends like this for Nightfall customers only.

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

11 Oct 2006 at 17:24 - 91

3 times more likely is better then normal, so it looks like a farming weekend. A “Big Trouble in Little China” farming weekend. Mr. Razorstone you and all your friends will have to wait till you gain favor with A-net.

Arteful Dodger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Geezer Guild

R/Mo

11 Oct 2006 at 17:59 - 92

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher

Still zero? lol

I hope i can finally get some decent weapons on my monk now.

Exactly.

No matter what number you multiply 0 by it's still 0. This has all the earmarks of the weekend when the scroll drops were supposed to increased by 3 I believe. Never saw any difference before or after. This will be more of the same. Pretty much a waste IMHO.

Sephiroth Istari

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

12 Oct 2006 at 00:37 - 93

I'll be farming this weekend

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

12 Oct 2006 at 02:13 - 94

3 (0) = 0. Yay.

Sasuke The Betrayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Angeles

Pink Pearl

Mo/Me

12 Oct 2006 at 02:25 - 95

Lol, I just hope I'll get Ironclaw today... hehehe

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

12 Oct 2006 at 03:22 - 96

I again have to say I'm not complaining, but I do feel let down a bit. When Anerf announced they'd be postponing this by a week in order to make it 'new and improved', I was hoping they'd retool anti-farm or re-assign hench drops, or some new mechanic.......instead they just made 2x into 3x.....they needed a week to do that?

One Tall Amazon Btch

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

NY

R/Mo

12 Oct 2006 at 03:55 - 97

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bibblenorn

I might farm Ghial. Been wanting that staff, but I haven't wanted to fork over 30k for it.

if you hold out you can get it for 20 k now i almost bought one for 22k but i didnt want to part with my cash..lol .. GL

Ecksor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

kkthnxbai

Knights And Heroes [Beer]

12 Oct 2006 at 04:09 - 98

hmmmm sunjiang dist, ghial, and maybe koosun will suffer from a horrid sliver armor death...

kade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Currently residing in ToA dis 1

Mo/

12 Oct 2006 at 08:02 - 99

I've had 2 greens drop for me since i bought Factions on the day of release...2per 6 months = 1 per month=1.33333333per week = yay 1 green for me this weekend................maybe..................prol ly not.................nvm going to farm fow.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

12 Oct 2006 at 08:36 - 100

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetdoc

P.S. For those of you who are farming greens, I'm 99% sure that, due to the anti-farming code, that if you've tried to get SSkai's Sword by killing him over 300 times...that code kicked in about 290 times ago, so you're basically wasting your time.

Not really. If you only kill Sskai you dont even trigger the farming code. You only trigger it if (like me) you always combine Sskai with Geoffer and kill his outcast buddies as well.

I dont farm Sskai for a 'living' so to speak, whenever a guildmate or a friend wants a Sskai I got get it and except for once I've never triggered the farming code. How many I've gotten? Rough guess would be about 15 Sskai's and 6 Geoffers and its not taken me 300 runs either.
Now I do a maximum of 5 runs at both and then go somewhere else.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

12 Oct 2006 at 08:42 - 101

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doomlord_Slayermann

3 (0) = 0. Yay.

Well, the W/N build from Lambda is very very easy to use for farming at least 4 bosses in Cantha (some say more even), so I dont know why you think its hard. Took 5 runs with 4 humans to get Scourgewinds Branch as well which a friend of ours wanted *shrug*

Yes, if you take henchies it can take an awfully long time so either play with humans and divide the spoils or go solo. Greens drop pretty easily in Cantha.

Me and a few friend will definitely be trekking around Morostav Trail & Mourning Falls this weekend and we'll agree beforehand how we'll divide up the greens

Zamochit

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/A

12 Oct 2006 at 08:53 - 102

A grenths/riposte build solo will take down ..Sskai, geoffer, jaqui, merki, reefclaw, milthuran, rajazan, scourgewind, ssaresh, pretty much anything that does melee damage that you can get one on one with without having to deal with a massive group...I personally prefer runs where you can take down more than one boss without rezoning like sskai/geoffer....merkis/rajazan...reefclaw/jaquis...It means i think that the farm code is less likely to kick in as you are killing more than one boss and it also makes it a bit more satisfying. There are obviously several other runs that can be completed by a W/N solo in this way too. Ironclaw for instance, but most of them only grant the oppertunity for one green drop (in my experience). I also wholeheartedly agree that this will bring the value of canthan greens down significantly, however I will be using this weekend as an opertunity to gather as many greens as I can from solo farming for two reasons....

1. I still have some guildmates who still arent suitably equiped and secondly...
2. Heros in nightfall will require equipment, and I dont want to be using them as a cash sink.

Something to bear in mind this weekend perhapts.

Hyaon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

P/W

12 Oct 2006 at 11:24 - 103

Why are people who farm with HENCHIES complaining about low drop rate? Jesus Christ, sorry had to get that off my chest..... SOLO the bosses and the greens will come ¬_¬

memnock deathwalker

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

PWN

N/Me

12 Oct 2006 at 14:24 - 104

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyaon

Why are people who farm with HENCHIES complaining about low drop rate? Jesus Christ, sorry had to get that off my chest..... SOLO the bosses and the greens will come ¬_¬

Really let them complain after going into and area with a 4 man PUG and no one gets a green . Then they might have a point.
But with a henchie group it never shows what is dropped for them.

I can see prices falling already.

Acehigh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Steel Phoenix[StP]/Terror Of The Justice Salmon[FisH]

12 Oct 2006 at 15:14 - 105

Quote:

Originally Posted by GranDeWun

I wouldn't mind getting the Kaolin Blade from Sunjiang explorable. Did someone say this is farmable solo by E/A?! I find that hard to believe... this is the toughest district I've found in Cantha so far...

You could always farm one in Divine Path with a SS n/r,though im not sure since i aint farmed that place since they fixed the boss attack bugs.As for the weekend,i dunno if i'll farm much since i dont play hardly anymore.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

12 Oct 2006 at 15:54 - 106

Quote:

Originally Posted by memnock deathwalker

Really let them complain after going into and area with a 4 man PUG and no one gets a green . Then they might have a point.
But with a henchie group it never shows what is dropped for them.

I can see prices falling already.

Even then there's no guarantee a green will drop, if repeat that 10x and a green doesnt drop, now then I'd say there's something to complain about.
Cantha bosses do drop green items very regularly but its not a guaranteed thing.

Prices of Cantha greens (and Tyrian as well) have tanked ofcourse, its a question of supply and demand and there's a LOT of supply which basically means that greens drop a lot.

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

12 Oct 2006 at 16:21 - 107

I take five hencies with my assassin when I chest farm between Leviathan and Gyala's. (That's a great place, btw... always 4-6 chests). The other day I had Reefclaw's Refuge drop, I was giddy.

Of course, now Koss won't quit calling me to make sure I keep it for him. Is it rude to change your number and not tell your heroes?

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

12 Oct 2006 at 16:27 - 108

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tijger

Well, the W/N build from Lambda is very very easy to use for farming at least 4 bosses in Cantha (some say more even), so I dont know why you think its hard. Took 5 runs with 4 humans to get Scourgewinds Branch as well which a friend of ours wanted *shrug*

Yes, if you take henchies it can take an awfully long time so either play with humans and divide the spoils or go solo. Greens drop pretty easily in Cantha.

Me and a few friend will definitely be trekking around Morostav Trail & Mourning Falls this weekend and we'll agree beforehand how we'll divide up the greens

It's not hard. My point was that because the drop rate is so low already, multiplying it by three pretty much accomplishes nothing.

Sid Soggybottom

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

12 Oct 2006 at 16:46 - 109

Quote:

Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

I again have to say I'm not complaining, but I do feel let down a bit. When Anerf announced they'd be postponing this by a week in order to make it 'new and improved', I was hoping they'd retool anti-farm or re-assign hench drops, or some new mechanic.......instead they just made 2x into 3x.....they needed a week to do that?

They didnt postpone the weekend in order to make it "new and improved" They postponed it so that they could implement the new 6 man HA. The only thing I saw that they referred to as "new and improved" were the new maps.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

12 Oct 2006 at 17:58 - 110

I wonder how many peoples will be mad once they don't get any greens this weekend!

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

12 Oct 2006 at 20:27 - 111

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Soggybottom

They didnt postpone the weekend in order to make it "new and improved" They postponed it so that they could implement the new 6 man HA. The only thing I saw that they referred to as "new and improved" were the new maps.

When they postponed it they said something along the lines of "don't worry, this weekend will be back and better than it is now!"

The change they made was 2x turned into 3x.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

12 Oct 2006 at 21:24 - 112

Quote:

Originally Posted by Former Ruling

When they postponed it they said something along the lines of "don't worry, this weekend will be back and better than it is now!"

The change they made was 2x turned into 3x.

I thought they said.. we'll make it better by putting more ectos into your storage! *end sarcasm*

TheLordOfBlah

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

None

Mo/N

12 Oct 2006 at 21:55 - 113

Quote:

Originally Posted by Former Ruling

His example was horrible.

I use the example of Software (which this is), Like Microsoft Windows.

Think of Tyria as Windows 98, And Cantha as Windows XP.

Microsoft no longer patches Windows 98, although it is an insanely popular OS (many argued that you should stay with it and not upgrade to XP before Service Pack 2 came out for XP because XP was buggy and full of security holes).

You have to serve your newest product.

I would agree with you... but Prophecies has NEVER gotten a weekened event so... your examples still suck.

Prophecies has been in stores for only a year... and its not comparable to a different operating system.

WinXP is to Win98 as Pong is to DiabloII, Guild Wars: Prophecies is still Guild Wars.

The games are connected and you can take the same characters to different areas(unlike your example where you cant use certain programs on 98), therefore they should BOTH get a benefit...

Mr Jazzy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Cali

Mending For The [win]

W/A

13 Oct 2006 at 03:40 - 114

wow. okay, just to clear all of this up...

Anet isn't patching prophecies because they are lazy or because they HATE prophecies, it's simply a business strategy. the only way Anet receives revenue is from people buying the game, not thru monthly fees.

by hosting events only in cantha, they are hoping that people would get sick of all the cantha bias, and finally realize that only cantha will get special things. at that point, they want you to buy factions.

it's a business device, not hate towards tyria or players

nectuss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/Mo

13 Oct 2006 at 07:18 - 115

When will this even't start? Or allredy did? Please for reply!

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

13 Oct 2006 at 07:25 - 116

i don't understand why everyone complains about green drops, i farm greens very often as do my guildies and we get plenty of greens. just don't overfarm an area and don't go back to an area after you've done up to 10 runs. go away and farm elsewhere for a few days then come back. i'm sure most green farmers have avoided their fav green farm locations like the plague the last few days for the area to reset for them. and for those who are taking henchies, don't complain if you don't get any drops.

oh and if you don't like the lack of tyrian events then buy factions. how could anyone expect a company to continue support and developement of an old product? where do they draw the line? if there were to continue support for tyria then as new chapters come out they would need to increase staff just to maintain support. if you want a continual update for tyria then you'll have to pay a monthly fee. the $20-$40 people spend on GW is a bargain and asking for the moon and stars for that measly sum is just wishful thinking. anet is in this to make money NOT to break even! they are responsible to one and only one group...their share holders.

The undead Mesmer

Delphian Scribe

Join Date: May 2005

Holland

No guild ;_;

N/Me

13 Oct 2006 at 07:32 - 117

Some people *points at himself* however dont have the spirit to farm (or are just too stupid/no equipment like me) :/ so 1 humble request if you wouldnt mind to take me on a couple of runs for perhaps that sword or some necromancer items i can be a good SSer dont worry X3.

IGN: Cursed Baltimore add me and pm me if you are one of those friendly neighbour farmers...

Tachyon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Stoke, England

The Godless [GOD]

W/

13 Oct 2006 at 12:24 - 118

Make that 379 times with no Sword drop yet! I must be the unluckiest git ever!

Emik

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Belgium

[FaRM] Farm For The Win

N/

13 Oct 2006 at 13:43 - 119

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azagoth

Make that 379 times with no Sword drop yet! I must be the unluckiest git ever!

Says the one holding Kanaxai's Edge: LOL

elliot

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

holland

W/

13 Oct 2006 at 13:57 - 120

basicly its fun for the people that dont have all the elites yet and are still hunting them in factions and its fun for thoust that farm bosses for greens.

so I just go back and have some fun on pvp cous farming is boring :P