GW please change the survivor title!!
exiled mat
and my bet is that no one has completed the survivor track trough normal play of the game
African War Lord
The whole point of this title is surviving from level 0 to 20. All these threads ask for the same thing and it really is a bunch of bull. They ask to basically be able to farm a survival title starting at lvl 20 with max armour and elite skills.
The only thing that should ever be done in my opinion is this. Make a survivor npc that you talk to, and he say's.. "Howdy friend!!, you'd like your chance at survivor would ya? well I can reset your level to 1 if you'd like, but you won't be able to wear your armour untill lvl 20 and your character will not have access to any unlocked skills on your account untill then either, do you wish to continue?"
something like that or it's simply not fair to those of us who have survivor and got it legitimately.
The only thing that should ever be done in my opinion is this. Make a survivor npc that you talk to, and he say's.. "Howdy friend!!, you'd like your chance at survivor would ya? well I can reset your level to 1 if you'd like, but you won't be able to wear your armour untill lvl 20 and your character will not have access to any unlocked skills on your account untill then either, do you wish to continue?"
something like that or it's simply not fair to those of us who have survivor and got it legitimately.
MithranArkanere
I tried to get Survivor in one character.
I got the first rank, then, one day I had a lag hit. A VERY BIG ONE.
I was far away from any monster before the hit, then, the game disconnected.
I reentered and found mi Survivor rank frozen, while the lag hit, a patrol found my party and wiped them out, I was the monk who was supposed to keep them alive.
Skill? Well... it's not a matter of skill.
There is a margin for Cartographers, I got 100% Elona with around 3% unexplored map. Why should not be a margin here?
Well, a Rank 3 survivor is sure a 13375000 (
)if he can have an nfalible conection to GW servers and never had a mortal lag hit.
You can't get exp without batting, you can die while battling, a lag hit can kill you, since it's impossible to have a 100% perfect connection, it's not only about skill, but more like about LUCK.
Yup, Seeker of wisdom is about luck to, but you can buy unidentified items and over time, you'll end getting some gold items.
But time will never fix this. Nor will fix the Vizunah Bug counters.
I got the first rank, then, one day I had a lag hit. A VERY BIG ONE.
I was far away from any monster before the hit, then, the game disconnected.
I reentered and found mi Survivor rank frozen, while the lag hit, a patrol found my party and wiped them out, I was the monk who was supposed to keep them alive.
Skill? Well... it's not a matter of skill.
There is a margin for Cartographers, I got 100% Elona with around 3% unexplored map. Why should not be a margin here?
Well, a Rank 3 survivor is sure a 13375000 (
)if he can have an nfalible conection to GW servers and never had a mortal lag hit.You can't get exp without batting, you can die while battling, a lag hit can kill you, since it's impossible to have a 100% perfect connection, it's not only about skill, but more like about LUCK.
Yup, Seeker of wisdom is about luck to, but you can buy unidentified items and over time, you'll end getting some gold items.
But time will never fix this. Nor will fix the Vizunah Bug counters.
Dalimoor_Kalkire
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I tried to get Survivor in one character.
I got the first rank, then, one day I had a lag hit. A VERY BIG ONE. I was far away from any monster before the hit, then, the game disconnected. I reentered and found mi Survivor rank frozen, while the lag hit, a patrol found my party and wiped them out, I was the monk who was supposed to keep them alive. Skill? Well... it's not a matter of skill. There is a margin for Cartographers, I got 100% Elona with around 3% unexplored map. Why should not be a margin here? Well, a Rank 3 survivor is sure a 13375000 ( )if he can have an nfalible conection to GW servers and never had a mortal lag hit.You can't get exp without batting, you can die while battling, a lag hit can kill you, since it's impossible to have a 100% perfect connection, it's not only about skill, but more like about LUCK. Yup, Seeker of wisdom is about luck to, but you can buy unidentified items and over time, you'll end getting some gold items. But time will never fix this. Nor will fix the Vizunah Bug counters. |
Faer
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Also, I was thinking of getting defender of ascalon AND survivor by letting someone else death level while just standing there
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Personally, I say the Survivor title should stay as it is. There's nothing legendary about a level twenty farmer who dies every couple of days, but if somebody can get the title without biting the dust even once, starting from scratch and having to risk their life to even be of a proper level to farm experience, then they sure as hell deserve it.
Racthoh
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The whole point of this title is surviving from level 0 to 20. All these threads ask for the same thing and it really is a bunch of bull. They ask to basically be able to farm a survival title starting at lvl 20 with max armour and elite skills.
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I would go so far as to say Legendary Survivor is the easiest title to max in the game. But, because I spent 12 months before titles were introduced understanding the game mechanics, testing and developing builds, playing in the random arenas to kill time, and basically becoming a better player I don't have the chance to attempt something I had no prior knowledge about? Hell I might not even go for it, but it would be nice to know that if I wanted to span 1.337 million experience without a death I would earn something for my efforts. The concept behind it is still the same; don't die, get this much experience. Ultimately the only difficult (and I use the term loosely) part of the survivor title is the first 140k experience to reach the first tier, and then you're on the same playing field as the rest of us.
And who is to say no character before titles would've achieved survivor, and then died. If Anet couldn't retroactively add all of the chests you've acquired/golds you've IDed, could they have been able to grant a pre-title survivor the title? I doubt they kept a database on that kind of thing, or had some way to measure it at that point in development. At the release of guild wars, we never had a chance of earning the title and it just isn't fair.
wilson
/not signed, not in a bazillion years!
I have also been playing Guild Wars since the WPE and all my Tyrian characters will never have the chance to get that title, the characters I spend most of my time with and that I enjoyed playing with most. I can safely say that those characters were/are my favorite characters becuase they never got deleted, despite the four character slot limitation you had in Prophecies before Factions release.
But it does not matter because Factions gave me the possibility to have more slots and I took that chance and I got myself a Legendary Survivor. The whole thing about the Legendary Survivor is that you HAVE to start from the batch. Even if you have a lot of cash, unique weapons for your chosen profession, Superior Vigors. It does not matter much. You still have to work your way to the outposts before you can actually start farming. You have to get the skills first, espcially the elite ones. And believing that you can easily farm 1.337.500 XP is just wrong. I did every quest with my Legendary I could get, capped all the elites for my primary profession and took my character from Shing Jae to Unwaking (yes, both sides) and from Lion's Arch to Abbadon's Mouth. And I did all this before joining the amazing Guild I'm part of now.
On the other hand giving a fully equipped, all elite skills unlocked, all outposts mapped level 20 toon the reset function just takes away a huge part of the challange of getting that title. You HAVE to take yourself everywhere, cap all the elites yourself and just hope for the best. You cannot imagine how thrilling and exciting it is to do Thunderhead Keep with an Indomitable Survivor..and complete the Mission! Imagine now a level 20 toon that zones to Ember Light Camp. Yeah, lots of fun..
I really don't care if they add a title that shows that you gained so and so many XP without dying but do not touch the Legendary Survivor. I might actually get a title like that myself. Give it a different name, maybe change the amount of XP needed, make it maxable so that it counts towards KOABD, but leave the Legendary alone.
Everyone who believes that it's just a matter of sitting in a corner while others do the job has no idea what it truely means to get that title. A reset button would kill the achievement. A different title would be a very good idea.
I have also been playing Guild Wars since the WPE and all my Tyrian characters will never have the chance to get that title, the characters I spend most of my time with and that I enjoyed playing with most. I can safely say that those characters were/are my favorite characters becuase they never got deleted, despite the four character slot limitation you had in Prophecies before Factions release.
But it does not matter because Factions gave me the possibility to have more slots and I took that chance and I got myself a Legendary Survivor. The whole thing about the Legendary Survivor is that you HAVE to start from the batch. Even if you have a lot of cash, unique weapons for your chosen profession, Superior Vigors. It does not matter much. You still have to work your way to the outposts before you can actually start farming. You have to get the skills first, espcially the elite ones. And believing that you can easily farm 1.337.500 XP is just wrong. I did every quest with my Legendary I could get, capped all the elites for my primary profession and took my character from Shing Jae to Unwaking (yes, both sides) and from Lion's Arch to Abbadon's Mouth. And I did all this before joining the amazing Guild I'm part of now.
On the other hand giving a fully equipped, all elite skills unlocked, all outposts mapped level 20 toon the reset function just takes away a huge part of the challange of getting that title. You HAVE to take yourself everywhere, cap all the elites yourself and just hope for the best. You cannot imagine how thrilling and exciting it is to do Thunderhead Keep with an Indomitable Survivor..and complete the Mission! Imagine now a level 20 toon that zones to Ember Light Camp. Yeah, lots of fun..
I really don't care if they add a title that shows that you gained so and so many XP without dying but do not touch the Legendary Survivor. I might actually get a title like that myself. Give it a different name, maybe change the amount of XP needed, make it maxable so that it counts towards KOABD, but leave the Legendary alone.
Everyone who believes that it's just a matter of sitting in a corner while others do the job has no idea what it truely means to get that title. A reset button would kill the achievement. A different title would be a very good idea.
Nickhimself
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/notsigned
Give old characters a one-time death reset. Legendary Survivor is the only title that involves risk - it is the only title that you can actually fail to get *permanently*. Removing this risk makes it a very different title. |
Hey I died 1,532...wait...0 times. Yeah, 0 times.
No.
The original idea is the one that makes the most sense. BUT! I do think that it would only be fair if they removed the max title available, so if you DID play your oldest character and started farming to get survivor, you wouldn't be able to add that toward a KoABD or PKM title track.
Cass
/notsigned
Anything to make things easy huh? Can I have free fame please? Maybe we can have Glad points for every 2-win streak in TA? Maybe make exploration account-wide and reduce the map coverage requirement? Can I have a 1M gold startup fund for free when I make a new char?
If you want what the title represents, then work for it and play by the rules. The fact that cheat-loving people 'abuse' the game to pose with titles/emotes is bad enough, no need to give everyone everything for free.
Anything to make things easy huh? Can I have free fame please? Maybe we can have Glad points for every 2-win streak in TA? Maybe make exploration account-wide and reduce the map coverage requirement? Can I have a 1M gold startup fund for free when I make a new char?
If you want what the title represents, then work for it and play by the rules. The fact that cheat-loving people 'abuse' the game to pose with titles/emotes is bad enough, no need to give everyone everything for free.
Infinity^
/notsigned
couldn't disagree more.
Yeah, lets get to level 20, get max armour, weapons, skills, make a farming build and then farm lower level mobs one at a time until I get survivor.
The title is about risk, resetting deaths would completly remove the entire point of the title; and all because you can't be bothered to work for it.
couldn't disagree more.
Yeah, lets get to level 20, get max armour, weapons, skills, make a farming build and then farm lower level mobs one at a time until I get survivor.
The title is about risk, resetting deaths would completly remove the entire point of the title; and all because you can't be bothered to work for it.
MithranArkanere
Just change it a bit... so it allow one death for each... 1, 10, 100 mllion points or more.
Evilsod
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The entire point of Legendary Survivor is that it can be lost forever. I don't understand why that is so difficult to comprehend.
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We didn't lose it, we never had a chance to find it to begin with. As soon as you get over yourself and see that you might have something worth posting about.
Oh and getting to Legendary Survivor (ie 1337k exp) is actually harder for a character with 6million exp than it is for 1 with 0exp. Why? Quest rewards? Ascension? Elites? How many survivors can honestly say they haven't been to Tyria to ascend and get the 50k exp? Or completed a shed load of quests to boost exp? Or even capped elites to get an insta 5k? Or completed missions w/ bonus to get the exp rewards?
Whether the title is reworked or a second exp based title is added purely for those without Leg Survivor i don't care, but i'm not restarting my Ranger just to get this f*cking title so i can get 1 more title to add to my collection.
Hell i might actually begin to try avoiding deaths if that happens.
Speaking of cheap titles, have you ever seen the 3 AFK titles? Lucky, Unlucky and Lightbringer? Hell i could probably afk Survivor this way too if it was 100% certain i wouldn't die, but its not... so i'm not going to.
ArcaneApostle
I think it needs to be fixed; how about instead of XP, which can be farmed (making it not mean anything special + being cheap for those who lag) it be changed to finishing each mission without dying within it (like getting masters, only different). Or surviving through a certain number of missions (consecutive or no?). MithranA's suggestionn is also a reasonable alternative. Or a way to start you character over at level one without deaths to try again (keep customized stuff, but their reqs stay the same; possibly change name/appearance too?).
The title as it is has nothing to do with surviving more than having a bunch of competent friends who are willing to help 'beat the system'. It does not demonstrate attributes which are commendable, it is frustrating (luck) instead of challenging (skill), and instead indicates those who would go to extreme lengths for a *title*; they are supposed to be rewards for good play, not goals in and of themselves.
/signed for some sort of fix to ALL ridiculous titles, especially this one
The title as it is has nothing to do with surviving more than having a bunch of competent friends who are willing to help 'beat the system'. It does not demonstrate attributes which are commendable, it is frustrating (luck) instead of challenging (skill), and instead indicates those who would go to extreme lengths for a *title*; they are supposed to be rewards for good play, not goals in and of themselves.
/signed for some sort of fix to ALL ridiculous titles, especially this one
Carth`
/signed!
For the simple reason that I believe no title should be impossible to get.
It sucks for any loyal players. It requires you to recreate the character and get all your other achievements again.
It's not about making it easier. There was no such thing as survivor when we created these characters, and now it's impossible for them to get it. As it is, most people get this title with a friend running them through missions and power levelling them until they have it, never putting themself in danger.
Uh that's what everybody does already. Low level mobs aren't going to give a level 20 character much XP. Someone who has already died would do it in the same way as someone who hasn't died. Get max armour, get power levelled to level 20, then farm low risk high XP mobs.
For the simple reason that I believe no title should be impossible to get.
It sucks for any loyal players. It requires you to recreate the character and get all your other achievements again.
It's not about making it easier. There was no such thing as survivor when we created these characters, and now it's impossible for them to get it. As it is, most people get this title with a friend running them through missions and power levelling them until they have it, never putting themself in danger.
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Yeah, lets get to level 20, get max armour, weapons, skills, make a farming build and then farm lower level mobs one at a time until I get survivor.
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MorpheusDV
/notsigned
Some of you may know that my previous Survivor died. Sure, I was pissed off and angry, but who cares? I got over it and remade.
Giving older players a chance to achieve Legendary Survivor or an alternative is wrong on so many levels. If you want the title and have a deadset mind to get it, remake your character to get it.
Something people work for their Survivor titles and beyond. I have gone through hell to finally get my first tier today, and I'm proud of it. I just completed ascension today and I'm 180k strong without deaths. Next stop, Elona, and then finally to Cantha to achieve Legendary.
It's all about pride in accomplishment.
People that are crying about the title need to stop crying. Sure, ArenaNet may reset their deaths on older characters, but they only did it to pacify the crybabies who feel they got screwed and raped out of something.
I, for one, would feel insulted that I had to do it the legit way, only to find out ArenaNet reset the death count...
Some of you may know that my previous Survivor died. Sure, I was pissed off and angry, but who cares? I got over it and remade.
Giving older players a chance to achieve Legendary Survivor or an alternative is wrong on so many levels. If you want the title and have a deadset mind to get it, remake your character to get it.
Something people work for their Survivor titles and beyond. I have gone through hell to finally get my first tier today, and I'm proud of it. I just completed ascension today and I'm 180k strong without deaths. Next stop, Elona, and then finally to Cantha to achieve Legendary.
It's all about pride in accomplishment.
People that are crying about the title need to stop crying. Sure, ArenaNet may reset their deaths on older characters, but they only did it to pacify the crybabies who feel they got screwed and raped out of something.
I, for one, would feel insulted that I had to do it the legit way, only to find out ArenaNet reset the death count...
Neon Ciaren
The Title says ( You will earn the title xxxx if you reach xxxx experience points without dying. Thus the title doesn't say that you can't have more then 1 death, meaning it should be possible to start over even if you've died. To accomplish 1,380,000 exp., so I beleive, to get legendary is hard enough for someone to get. I've died trying to get this title so many times my monk almost reached Indomitable and died from a boss in one hit in factions. Also once you've made it passed survivor and died you get an ugly none-filled title which can never be reached again.
I died with my warrior at 1,000,000 or so experience due to lag spikes and uploads before nightfall came out where my char stood there and the skills wouldn't work and nothing moved. I left the game immidiately with my physical resistance, watch yourself, dolyak on when farming a group of 3 spiders in the FoW and when I came back into the game *Never seeing my Char die* I had 1 Death on my char. I spent 2 months working that char up for nothing having 15k and the such. I also spent about 2 weeks on the support knowledge base to try to fix this and the only response the best thing they said to do was come to the forums and post a reply about this.
Thus this is A GREAT IDEA, I honestly love it I'll actually be able to attempt the title over again and once again use my char which I haven't touched for 3 months sense this insodent.
/signed
I died with my warrior at 1,000,000 or so experience due to lag spikes and uploads before nightfall came out where my char stood there and the skills wouldn't work and nothing moved. I left the game immidiately with my physical resistance, watch yourself, dolyak on when farming a group of 3 spiders in the FoW and when I came back into the game *Never seeing my Char die* I had 1 Death on my char. I spent 2 months working that char up for nothing having 15k and the such. I also spent about 2 weeks on the support knowledge base to try to fix this and the only response the best thing they said to do was come to the forums and post a reply about this.
Thus this is A GREAT IDEA, I honestly love it I'll actually be able to attempt the title over again and once again use my char which I haven't touched for 3 months sense this insodent.
/signed
sh4d0whunta
omg u gtta have 0 deaths now i agree with u and i saw somone with legendary survivor!!! omg now its a title worthy of honor
Quid Pro Quo
Maybe not legendary but atleast the titles leading up to it.
/Signed either way
/Signed either way
sh4d0whunta
maybe they could make one for skill points like if u earn 500 skill points u get a title and /signed forgot in last post
ss1986v2
/not signed
if you want the title, earn it. if you think its too hard, then dont do it. end of problem.
if you want the title, earn it. if you think its too hard, then dont do it. end of problem.
Phoenix Arrows
/notsigned
It's easier to get Survivor as a level 20 than as a level 1-19.
It's easier to get Survivor as a level 20 than as a level 1-19.
cR4zY-n^
/notsigned
It is more rare and respectfull this way. (No matter when frustrated people that don't have it say "they got it in this way or that way").
It is more rare and respectfull this way. (No matter when frustrated people that don't have it say "they got it in this way or that way").
cR4zY-n^
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The Title says ( You will earn the title xxxx if you reach xxxx experience points without dying. Thus the title doesn't say that you can't have more then 1 death, meaning it should be possible to start over even if you've died. To accomplish 1,380,000 exp., so I beleive, to get legendary is hard enough for someone to get. I've died trying to get this title so many times my monk almost reached Indomitable and died from a boss in one hit in factions. Also once you've made it passed survivor and died you get an ugly none-filled title which can never be reached again.
I died with my warrior at 1,000,000 or so experience due to lag spikes and uploads before nightfall came out where my char stood there and the skills wouldn't work and nothing moved. I left the game immidiately with my physical resistance, watch yourself, dolyak on when farming a group of 3 spiders in the FoW and when I came back into the game *Never seeing my Char die* I had 1 Death on my char. I spent 2 months working that char up for nothing having 15k and the such. I also spent about 2 weeks on the support knowledge base to try to fix this and the only response the best thing they said to do was come to the forums and post a reply about this. Thus this is A GREAT IDEA, I honestly love it I'll actually be able to attempt the title over again and once again use my char which I haven't touched for 3 months sense this insodent. /signed |
Tough luck, no reason to call for a title update tho.
I also couldn't care less about thing that I will not be able to get Defender of Ascalon ever. 'Cos Survivor and Defender of Asc is not possible to get both afaik, and Survivor > defender. :P
Mr. E. Mustard
if you want the title, work for it. i had 3 chars before the title came out and yeah, i want them to have survivor, but they can't, yeah, gets me mad. but i made another char and worked to get survivor, i almost got it but i died. so i'm trying again. if the rest of us who really want to get survivor are willing to make new chars or restart old ones why can't you? if you really want it, work for it, do the missions, go everywhere, get all the xp you can get. then the title will be worht it. if you want the title just to show off, then you don't deserve it. start from lvl 0 like everyone else and when you finally get the title, you know you earned it.
Rehnahvah Gahro
Everyone who says that the hard part is to get to Lvl 20: think again!
If you start in Cantha (what I did with my Rit) you get to Lvl 20 in no time. Seriously: It was a piece of cake, a walk in the park.
The hard part is from 140.600 xp to 1.337.500 xp. THAT is the hard part, because if you die due to a lag at 900.000 xp, believe me you get F****** frustrated.
In fact it would be MUCH harder for my Nekro to get 1.337.500 xp in ONE ROW, because I have done EVERY.SINGLE.QUEST in Tyria, Cantha and Elona.
Besides, if you have 60 Armor (or 80) it doesn't matter if you're Level 15 or Level 20, you have just a little less Health points (I went with a +60 Health Staff)
I can understand if the title would be left unchanged, but those who say that it would be easier for a Lvl 20 Char (who will have done most the Quests probably!) to get the needed xp didn't think enough.
For those who still don't get it: We are not talking about 140.600 Experience points, we're talking about OneMILLIONThreehundredTHOUSANDfivehundred xp!!!
If you start in Cantha (what I did with my Rit) you get to Lvl 20 in no time. Seriously: It was a piece of cake, a walk in the park.
The hard part is from 140.600 xp to 1.337.500 xp. THAT is the hard part, because if you die due to a lag at 900.000 xp, believe me you get F****** frustrated.
In fact it would be MUCH harder for my Nekro to get 1.337.500 xp in ONE ROW, because I have done EVERY.SINGLE.QUEST in Tyria, Cantha and Elona.
Besides, if you have 60 Armor (or 80) it doesn't matter if you're Level 15 or Level 20, you have just a little less Health points (I went with a +60 Health Staff)
I can understand if the title would be left unchanged, but those who say that it would be easier for a Lvl 20 Char (who will have done most the Quests probably!) to get the needed xp didn't think enough.
For those who still don't get it: We are not talking about 140.600 Experience points, we're talking about OneMILLIONThreehundredTHOUSANDfivehundred xp!!!
Shadowspawn X
/not signed
I had two old toons a ranger and mesmer, 12.8 million on the ranger and 11.4 million on the mesmer I would have loved to get the title for them, but its for new characters nothing hard to understand about that. I had to start a ritualist to get the title. It took me 8 trys to get legendary survivior basically all of the factions campiagn. I wouldn't have it any other way. Same things going to be true with "defender of ascalon" you just cant have everything all the time. To contiually ask Anet to change the game to suite your specific situation is unreasonable. Also not fair to those who instead of crying bit the bullet and did start anew and achieved their title.
I had two old toons a ranger and mesmer, 12.8 million on the ranger and 11.4 million on the mesmer I would have loved to get the title for them, but its for new characters nothing hard to understand about that. I had to start a ritualist to get the title. It took me 8 trys to get legendary survivior basically all of the factions campiagn. I wouldn't have it any other way. Same things going to be true with "defender of ascalon" you just cant have everything all the time. To contiually ask Anet to change the game to suite your specific situation is unreasonable. Also not fair to those who instead of crying bit the bullet and did start anew and achieved their title.
wetsparks
/not signed
totally agree with shadowspawn, got to make choices in life and things dont turn out they way you want them, why should GW be any different?
totally agree with shadowspawn, got to make choices in life and things dont turn out they way you want them, why should GW be any different?
Kelsey Cain
/not signed
I have always thought of not dying as an important part of any game and as such, because I generally always try to avoid unecessay deaths, several of my oldest characters already had 0 deaths when the survivor title was introduced.
I have always thought of not dying as an important part of any game and as such, because I generally always try to avoid unecessay deaths, several of my oldest characters already had 0 deaths when the survivor title was introduced.
Franco Power
lol to be honest here I doubt Anet will do this and cares about your kind of a big deal title
hey my warrior has fow armor, and many perfect weapons too, i dont play it because i hate his name/face, cant do anything bout it. Imo, if you want legendary start a new character, i mean you already got so many titles to show on that one anyway.
hey my warrior has fow armor, and many perfect weapons too, i dont play it because i hate his name/face, cant do anything bout it. Imo, if you want legendary start a new character, i mean you already got so many titles to show on that one anyway.
Im Perfect U Aint
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its a nightmare to get for a reason. Those legendary survivors you see out there, you know they worked hard for it........... |
not all worked hard for it..ive had friends manage to get to lutgardis and ran the door for the 2k exp redoable quest till they got the legendary...close to a dozen friends of mine have dun it...id do it if i didnt hate factions :P /notsigned on the death reset thing..../signed and /unsigned i think that u should b allowed to go to first title in between deaths but no farther..if anything at all..wich i no sounds stupid to
Navaros
The idea in this thread has been suggested at least five times before in distinct older threads. It started ever since the Survivor title was first implemented in the horribly botched way where old characters can't get it, and it keeps cropping up time and time again.
No doubt it will continue to crop up until Anet fixes the problem.
Fix it please.
/signed
No doubt it will continue to crop up until Anet fixes the problem.
Fix it please.
/signed
Geckoo
i was going to open a new thread but i saw this one... and is just what i was going to post, so...
/signed
Now, for those who say that the legendary survivor is a hard work... think about the hard work if you can't gain experience from quests, elite skills cap... if they 'fix' the title so you can obtain it even if you have 1000 deaths, then the real hard work will be for a old character, with the 3 campagins completed, with lots of elite skills... that's hard work.
My personal experience is that i've tried it twice, and both times i got killed without noticing it... by a heavy lag... the first one had 1M xp, the second one had 600k xp, and actually has 900k and stills with 1 death... i won't stop in my purpose... and if i can, when i reach 1.937.500 (1.337.500+600.000), i will come here and i will ask... i've earned 1.337.500 xp without dying... i am a legendary survivor but without a title... ¿will you recognise my hard work?
/signed
Now, for those who say that the legendary survivor is a hard work... think about the hard work if you can't gain experience from quests, elite skills cap... if they 'fix' the title so you can obtain it even if you have 1000 deaths, then the real hard work will be for a old character, with the 3 campagins completed, with lots of elite skills... that's hard work.
My personal experience is that i've tried it twice, and both times i got killed without noticing it... by a heavy lag... the first one had 1M xp, the second one had 600k xp, and actually has 900k and stills with 1 death... i won't stop in my purpose... and if i can, when i reach 1.937.500 (1.337.500+600.000), i will come here and i will ask... i've earned 1.337.500 xp without dying... i am a legendary survivor but without a title... ¿will you recognise my hard work?
Aeon_Xin
/unsigned with authority!!!!!!!!!
The purpose of survivor is to get to 20 without death.
IF it were changed, you could get to lvl 20 and get mad skills/elites, then go kill level 15 mobs safely all day long and get the title easily.
It would belittle those characters that have the title and the talent to get it.
AS far as the people who buy the title with powerlevelers, well I don't see a problem with that, because well, nothing can be done about it. Wanna buy it? earn the dough. You remind me of people that want to get the spiked eggnogg for next to free from other players(typically uninformed noobs), and yell at people selling them for a fair market value.
The purpose of survivor is to get to 20 without death.
IF it were changed, you could get to lvl 20 and get mad skills/elites, then go kill level 15 mobs safely all day long and get the title easily.
It would belittle those characters that have the title and the talent to get it.
AS far as the people who buy the title with powerlevelers, well I don't see a problem with that, because well, nothing can be done about it. Wanna buy it? earn the dough. You remind me of people that want to get the spiked eggnogg for next to free from other players(typically uninformed noobs), and yell at people selling them for a fair market value.
MegaMouse
/NOTSIGNED
The title was meant for those who have the patience or guts to not die. I have several characters coming up on 2 years old now and even then I do not believe it would be fair to give them a title that they did not earn outright. The way the survivor title is now is fine to me. Gives me something to do while waiting for the next chapter.
Mega Mouse
The title was meant for those who have the patience or guts to not die. I have several characters coming up on 2 years old now and even then I do not believe it would be fair to give them a title that they did not earn outright. The way the survivor title is now is fine to me. Gives me something to do while waiting for the next chapter.
Mega Mouse
xxSilhouette
signed in the sense that I would love for my tyrian characters to have a shot at this but not signed for the idea, I think they should do something for like survior for tyrian characters, but im not crazy about that idea.
Deagol
/notsigned
It would ruin the whole point of the title.
It would ruin the whole point of the title.
stuntharley
/not signed
I also have an old tyrian char, but I don't agree with this. If you want it you can make a new or different character IMHO.
I also have an old tyrian char, but I don't agree with this. If you want it you can make a new or different character IMHO.
Yu Yevon
/notsigned.
The point of the title is to not die period. I too have old Tryian characters I wish I could get the title on but the title is called Survivor not Die and and get another chance. I started my warrior over for the solo purpose of this title(1.037mil) and I'm finding it alot of fun to just take your time and just use your head. I have yet to leave a party or cower behind the group.
If old characters get a second chance most likely they will solo farm the entire title just for KoaBD. This is a title, a vanity, it doesn't hinder your gameplay or anything. For those using the arguement for Tryia characters about not knowing, why didn't you TRY to stay alive? It isn't called Death Wars. In games that I play I actually strive to stay alive and not kill myself.
In real life do you get two chances to live? I think not.
This title isn't that hard to begin with and doing this will make it even easier so again, /notsigned.
The point of the title is to not die period. I too have old Tryian characters I wish I could get the title on but the title is called Survivor not Die and and get another chance. I started my warrior over for the solo purpose of this title(1.037mil) and I'm finding it alot of fun to just take your time and just use your head. I have yet to leave a party or cower behind the group.
If old characters get a second chance most likely they will solo farm the entire title just for KoaBD. This is a title, a vanity, it doesn't hinder your gameplay or anything. For those using the arguement for Tryia characters about not knowing, why didn't you TRY to stay alive? It isn't called Death Wars. In games that I play I actually strive to stay alive and not kill myself.
In real life do you get two chances to live? I think not.
This title isn't that hard to begin with and doing this will make it even easier so again, /notsigned.
Geckoo
so... if you begin a new char you have the right to earn 1.337.500xp without dying and you'll have a title recognising it, after you get the title you can die 1000 times if you want. But if you have 1000 deaths and you decide in that point to be 1337.500xp without dying you don't have the right to have your hard work recognised?
I really don't undestand your point of view, i respect it of course, but i can't understand how you don't see something so obvious. From that point of view, even if you reach a survivor rank, when you die the title should dissapear, it has no sense, you are no longer a survivor... ><
I thought the whole point of the title was survive... earn 140.600, 586.500, 1.337.500xp without dying. I ask my self if the real problem for all of you is the first rank, that actually is 'reach lvl20'... the first rank can be obtained in very easy ways, so forget it, i'm talking about higher ranks.
1.337.500xp without deaths + 1000 deaths = legendary survivor
1000 deaths + 1.337.500xp without deaths = nothing
When they are really the same, the same hard work, even more in the second option (i repeat: no quests rewards, no mission rewards, no all elites to cap).
I really don't undestand your point of view, i respect it of course, but i can't understand how you don't see something so obvious. From that point of view, even if you reach a survivor rank, when you die the title should dissapear, it has no sense, you are no longer a survivor... ><
I thought the whole point of the title was survive... earn 140.600, 586.500, 1.337.500xp without dying. I ask my self if the real problem for all of you is the first rank, that actually is 'reach lvl20'... the first rank can be obtained in very easy ways, so forget it, i'm talking about higher ranks.
1.337.500xp without deaths + 1000 deaths = legendary survivor
1000 deaths + 1.337.500xp without deaths = nothing
When they are really the same, the same hard work, even more in the second option (i repeat: no quests rewards, no mission rewards, no all elites to cap).
Kid Divinity
/unsigned
Having to choose to start over from scratch, after failure, is part of the fun/torture that gets you the title. You get more drive out of knowing that you will have to start over if you die. Resetting the counter doesnt really do that. If you can just reset the counter and keep going, there is no point. Nothing is lost.
I do think they shouldve made an allowance for pre-Factions toons, but they didn't. So, I just made new one (you have 4 new profs to choose from since the inception of the title), tried, failed (in prophets path... I suck), tried again and got rank 3.
Just start one up, take it slow and then go capping like mad when you're out off your resepctive starter zone. The extra elites make for some crazy, deadly, hero builds.
DoubleXP weekends are your friend.
Having to choose to start over from scratch, after failure, is part of the fun/torture that gets you the title. You get more drive out of knowing that you will have to start over if you die. Resetting the counter doesnt really do that. If you can just reset the counter and keep going, there is no point. Nothing is lost.
I do think they shouldve made an allowance for pre-Factions toons, but they didn't. So, I just made new one (you have 4 new profs to choose from since the inception of the title), tried, failed (in prophets path... I suck), tried again and got rank 3.
Just start one up, take it slow and then go capping like mad when you're out off your resepctive starter zone. The extra elites make for some crazy, deadly, hero builds.
DoubleXP weekends are your friend.