... as we know it.
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The END to Farming Melee based monsters...
Batou of Nine
*Melee monsters are more intelligent about keeping themselves spread out, so that they don’t put themselves into a position where they’re highly susceptible to AoE attacks. Minotaurs, Nope.
Trolls, Nope.
Vermin, Nope.
Undergrowths, Nope.
Kirins, Nope.
ANY MELEE TYPE MONSTER, Nope.
Mebe the current affects are unintentional, but as it stands, they recognize low health on themselves, and run in attempt to heal... Funny how mindless beasts of the wild get so instinctual... lol!!
Farming bosses, still possible, just not the melee type ones.
As far as farming builds, we are now going to have to get MUCH more creative as the typical "hit me until you kill yourself" method is beyond nerfed, just plain destroyed.
So where do we go from here? If i go out and get a new sets of 15k armor for my new Paragon and Dervish, how am i going to remake that cash, build my savings back up, and have enough to buy 100's of new skills?
PvE, has just GREATLY changed just like the first big AoE update.
PvE commerce has just GREATLY changed.
Trade values will GREATLY change.
New salvage methods, item modifers, armor modifiers, and interface has just GREATLY changed the game's core game dynamics.
Guild Wars has just GREATLY changed. GL to yall, head up and keep hope! cheers!
Kakumei
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Originally Posted by Batou of Nine
Vermin, Nope.
False.
Spadas Datum
sad batou sad, oh well, since it's gonna be harder to make up cash now, I think it's time you really donate to me, =), guild buddy.
AlienFromBeyond
At least Spider farming seems to be intact.
Daenara
You can still farm Mino's at least, I was 55ing with my monk today. Just use SS instead of SoJ, and don't aggo more than 4 at a time. They run if there are more than 4 in your bubble taking damage. It's slower, but still possible.
Riotgear
The AI is still very predictable and exploitable. I'm currently trying to formulate something effective, but the basic jist is: If you pummel them with AOE early, then you're only gonna be facing 3 or so at a time for the rest of the fight. It is much easier to stay alive under that kind of pressure than staying alive while you're getting smacked around by 12 of them, and consequently, doesn't neccessitate as much reliance on pure invincibility.
Give it time. The AI is too dumb and there are too many skill possibilities for melee farming to get killed this easily. At the very least, there could be some very effective duo teams in the near future. I also hear using SS to kill things off works as well as ever.
Give it time. The AI is too dumb and there are too many skill possibilities for melee farming to get killed this easily. At the very least, there could be some very effective duo teams in the near future. I also hear using SS to kill things off works as well as ever.
benjef
You can still venguful Farm 
duncan99
tried UW, all aataxes ran away and they killed my SS companion 
:P
how will i ever get my fow armor now
:Phow will i ever get my fow armor now
Holz
This update is the biggest rubbish ever. They wanted to close down the botters and money making companies, well they succeeded. They succeeded in spoiling our fun too, gg. I wonder how people are supposed to get their FoW armors now? High end trading = impossible (inscriptions), farming = impossible. Oh wait, I am being dumb. They'll nerf it down to 5ecto per piece..
king_robin
Spirit Bond is also NEFT SO HARD
Spirit Bond: expires after 10 attacks or Spells.
Spirit Bond: expires after 10 attacks or Spells.
dark remover
vermin farming is nerved to.
When u attack them they all run away and stay away for like 7 sec.
its still possible to do it but it takes mutch more time then before.
i stoped with it.
gonna play CoD 2 now
When u attack them they all run away and stay away for like 7 sec.
its still possible to do it but it takes mutch more time then before.
i stoped with it.
gonna play CoD 2 now
duncan99
yep spirit bond too ;_;
They should NERF obsidian armor too then <<
This patch ruined my fun in the game =="
Edit: TRAPPERTEAMS FTW
They should NERF obsidian armor too then <<
This patch ruined my fun in the game =="
Edit: TRAPPERTEAMS FTW
stefan_moore
will the decreased amount of peopel farming uw increse the cost of ectos becuase if so im stackign up
Bloodied Blade
You have got to be kidding me...
I've seen a LOT of bad nerfs, but this is a bit far. How the hell are you suppossed to get FoW armor when you can't farm anything without an 8-man pug that more than likely is gonna die gruesomely before you reach the smites?
I've seen a LOT of bad nerfs, but this is a bit far. How the hell are you suppossed to get FoW armor when you can't farm anything without an 8-man pug that more than likely is gonna die gruesomely before you reach the smites?
carbajac
Caster enemies run like crazy from my warrior also. Kinda sucks.
Bloodied Blade
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Originally Posted by carbajac
Caster enemies run like crazy from my warrior also. Kinda sucks.
Looks like fow solo is pretty much all we can still do atm. That and (according to an above poster) VwK farming.
...rt/me ftw?
...rt/me ftw?
Guildmaster Cain
Lol any other build then Spirit Bond still works... sounds like I can finally sell 2 armors, because they became useless... But I'll always have my 55 armor. Neway melee characters arent the only ones that can be farmed...
Bloodied Blade
/agree
Just that meleers were the easiest. FoW forest is still fine afaik.
Just that meleers were the easiest. FoW forest is still fine afaik.
Bloodied Blade
You know, you could sue with a good lawyer... Taking fees for a product and then altering its contents after the deal could be considered almost fraudulent.
City of Heroes/City of Villains did the exact same thing...I'm going to need to remember to stop buying things from anyone associated with ncsoft.
City of Heroes/City of Villains did the exact same thing...I'm going to need to remember to stop buying things from anyone associated with ncsoft.
xXa1
the dev's still fail to realise that a majority of people playing their game are absolutely not intersted in pvp and have therefore absolutely nothing to do end game but contribute to the pve economy.
i guess they simply don't want our money. i certainly won't give them my USD50 for NF. seriously, USD50 for NF is stupid when i won't have any end game content to entertain myself with until chapter 4 comes out. i just rerolled my ranger and in one month finished both prophesies and tyria with protector's titles. what am i supposed to do after i complete the 20 elonian missions? twiddle my thumbs and turn pink?
i guess they simply don't want our money. i certainly won't give them my USD50 for NF. seriously, USD50 for NF is stupid when i won't have any end game content to entertain myself with until chapter 4 comes out. i just rerolled my ranger and in one month finished both prophesies and tyria with protector's titles. what am i supposed to do after i complete the 20 elonian missions? twiddle my thumbs and turn pink?
exiled mat
And again we have been blessed thanks to people and bots who have mindless farmed the uw 24/7 -_-
Gold is hard to come by in the guildwars world, so how do they expect us " semi-normal gamers" to even get a full set of normal 1,5K armor or one piece of fow armor without farming? (collectors armor sux
)
*hears voices: go with a team*
yeah teams.... if you are with capable members you still have only 1/8 chance to get something useful (if you're lucky
)
*hears voices: Start other characters*
sooo i have to start an other character, invest my time AND again gold in it, for the sake of mindless farming? ....
*hears voices: start selling things*
W T S spamming is allready worse enough, and second, i don't want to stand around for ages just to sell my 1 point of the max mod staff
*hears a single voice: go scam*
---- of, scamming is the lamest thing to do...... EVER....
so is ebay the only solution?
i certainly hope not
it's just an HORRIBLE option, because it's lame to buy virtual money. And i NEVER EVER resort to this option...
*starts (the again bugged) iron mines of molandune (sp?) with his 30 armor necro*
cheaper armor or better money options.... what do we want?
Gold is hard to come by in the guildwars world, so how do they expect us " semi-normal gamers" to even get a full set of normal 1,5K armor or one piece of fow armor without farming? (collectors armor sux
)*hears voices: go with a team*
yeah teams.... if you are with capable members you still have only 1/8 chance to get something useful (if you're lucky
)*hears voices: Start other characters*
sooo i have to start an other character, invest my time AND again gold in it, for the sake of mindless farming? ....
*hears voices: start selling things*
W T S spamming is allready worse enough, and second, i don't want to stand around for ages just to sell my 1 point of the max mod staff
*hears a single voice: go scam*
---- of, scamming is the lamest thing to do...... EVER....
so is ebay the only solution?
i certainly hope not
it's just an HORRIBLE option, because it's lame to buy virtual money. And i NEVER EVER resort to this option... *starts (the again bugged) iron mines of molandune (sp?) with his 30 armor necro
*cheaper armor or better money options.... what do we want?
Tainek
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Originally Posted by Bloodied Blade
You know, you could sue with a good lawyer... Taking fees for a product and then altering its contents after the deal could be considered almost fraudulent.
City of Heroes/City of Villains did the exact same thing...I'm going to need to remember to stop buying things from anyone associated with ncsoft.
you dont buy any of the content , you buy a Licence (I.e account key) to play there game, your key is still the same after you payed? yup
your a towel
and Solo and Duo UW are still very possible, my solo runs now take 8 mins more (40% longer) and my duo runs are the same as before, except now im making more money thanks to ecto rises
City of Heroes/City of Villains did the exact same thing...I'm going to need to remember to stop buying things from anyone associated with ncsoft.
you dont buy any of the content , you buy a Licence (I.e account key) to play there game, your key is still the same after you payed? yup
your a towel
and Solo and Duo UW are still very possible, my solo runs now take 8 mins more (40% longer) and my duo runs are the same as before, except now im making more money thanks to ecto rises
Arkantos
If vengeful farming, spider farming, and boss farming is still possible, I'm not too mad. So what, a bunch of farming got nerfed. Theres still many possibilites. I'm not mad that farming got nerfed, but apparently every AoE skill causes scatter. This is utter BS, tbh.
Avarre
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Originally Posted by Bloodied Blade
You have got to be kidding me...
I've seen a LOT of bad nerfs, but this is a bit far. How the hell are you suppossed to get FoW armor when you can't farm anything without an 8-man pug that more than likely is gonna die gruesomely before you reach the smites? That is how it used to be done. Welcome to Guild Wars.
People will adapt... there were whines before when AoE was nerfed, and the decent PvE'ers just changed the ways they did it.
I've seen a LOT of bad nerfs, but this is a bit far. How the hell are you suppossed to get FoW armor when you can't farm anything without an 8-man pug that more than likely is gonna die gruesomely before you reach the smites? That is how it used to be done. Welcome to Guild Wars.
People will adapt... there were whines before when AoE was nerfed, and the decent PvE'ers just changed the ways they did it.
daraaksii
thats all for me with Guild Wars, go play Lineage2 and Warhammer Online!
ForgeWhelp
It's funny that my buddy just created a 55 necro for farming last night and now it's 'nerfed'. How amuzing. like all things this will settle in time and new build will be found. Oh well....
Interwise
Back to DiabloII and WoW i say! too bad i already bought Nightfall >:C
LiamR
;( ;( ;(
No more farming for 80% of people.
Just repeat missions? Oh come on.
No more farming for 80% of people.
Just repeat missions? Oh come on.
Ic Zero
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Originally Posted by LiamR
;( ;( ;(
No more farming for 80% of people.
Just repeat missions? Oh come on. chest running ftw....
No more farming for 80% of people.
Just repeat missions? Oh come on. chest running ftw....
vespertine
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Originally Posted by Ic Zero
chest running ftw....
you think anyone can afford 100p+xxectos prizes, as 90% of farming posibilities are nerfed? ^^
and also.. the new salvage-features and the fact that you have to equip your heros will not leave much motivation to buy 100% "perfect" items.. 14^50 ftw.. ^^
and also.. the new salvage-features and the fact that you have to equip your heros will not leave much motivation to buy 100% "perfect" items.. 14^50 ftw.. ^^
SirShadowrunner
This update SUX,,,,,,, I feel sorry for the ppl who just got a toon ready to
farm and now it has been "slightly ruined", reminds me of when they nerfed
"global Absorption" on warriors.
But I gave up getting FOW armor along time ago, since the drop rate on ectos
is horrible, unless you can play this game 12hrs a day everyday you can
pretty much forget FOW armor, I have made well over 100 2-3 man trap runs to
UW and have a whole 15 ectos to show for it, maybe NW2 will be good!!!!
farm and now it has been "slightly ruined", reminds me of when they nerfed
"global Absorption" on warriors.
But I gave up getting FOW armor along time ago, since the drop rate on ectos
is horrible, unless you can play this game 12hrs a day everyday you can
pretty much forget FOW armor, I have made well over 100 2-3 man trap runs to
UW and have a whole 15 ectos to show for it, maybe NW2 will be good!!!!
yo home boi
Btw i just tried and VwK farming is not possible for most things except vermin =S Omg y! oh y!?!?!?!?!
Mr.H.Mishima
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Originally Posted by vespertine
you think anyone can afford 100p+xxectos prizes, as 90% of farming posibilities are nerfed? ^^
and also.. the new salvage-features and the fact that you have to equip your heros will not leave much motivation to buy 100% "perfect" items.. 14^50 ftw.. ^^ Exactly. Nobody can afford them, therefore, they will not cost that much anymore. Prices will have to be lowered if people want to sell their uber junk.
and also.. the new salvage-features and the fact that you have to equip your heros will not leave much motivation to buy 100% "perfect" items.. 14^50 ftw.. ^^ Exactly. Nobody can afford them, therefore, they will not cost that much anymore. Prices will have to be lowered if people want to sell their uber junk.
Abnaxus
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Originally Posted by Hells Last Survivor
Exactly. Nobody can afford them, therefore, they will not cost that much anymore. Prices will have to be lowered if people want to sell their uber junk.
True.
yo home boi
Guess its back to the old days of 8man FoW and UW ^^ lmfao!
stiffler
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Originally Posted by xXa1
the dev's still fail to realise that a majority of people playing their game are absolutely not intersted in pvp and have therefore absolutely nothing to do end game but contribute to the pve economy.
i guess they simply don't want our money. i certainly won't give them my USD50 for NF. seriously, USD50 for NF is stupid when i won't have any end game content to entertain myself with until chapter 4 comes out. i just rerolled my ranger and in one month finished both prophesies and tyria with protector's titles. what am i supposed to do after i complete the 20 elonian missions? twiddle my thumbs and turn pink? Agreed, I only ever really play PvE. Once I have finished all the missions and quests what is left to do? Farming, the only real fun I had in this game has been raped. Once I have gone through NF PvE missions I will probably quit Guild Wars.
i guess they simply don't want our money. i certainly won't give them my USD50 for NF. seriously, USD50 for NF is stupid when i won't have any end game content to entertain myself with until chapter 4 comes out. i just rerolled my ranger and in one month finished both prophesies and tyria with protector's titles. what am i supposed to do after i complete the 20 elonian missions? twiddle my thumbs and turn pink? Agreed, I only ever really play PvE. Once I have finished all the missions and quests what is left to do? Farming, the only real fun I had in this game has been raped. Once I have gone through NF PvE missions I will probably quit Guild Wars.
yo home boi
With all these ppl complaining i wouldnt be surprised if Anet changed the nerf back? I hope so ^^
stiffler
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Originally Posted by Ic Zero
chest running ftw....
Chests have been nerfed as well, you can no longer do rolling runs, they are totally random.
Shuuda
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Originally Posted by Holz
This update is the biggest rubbish ever. They wanted to close down the botters and money making companies, well they succeeded. They succeeded in spoiling our fun too, gg. I wonder how people are supposed to get their FoW armors now? High end trading = impossible (inscriptions), farming = impossible. Oh wait, I am being dumb. They'll nerf it down to 5ecto per piece..
That is overreacting, I love the update, templates, new salvage option, more challenges, I love it all.
And GW is not about soloing, if you enjoy soloing more than teamwork stuff, online games are not for you.
If you want FoW armor so badly, why don't you just go in a full team and fight for it, like a man!
I'm glad the nerfed those 55 monk, I'm just sad they didn't do it sooner.
Yours truely... Shuuda!
And GW is not about soloing, if you enjoy soloing more than teamwork stuff, online games are not for you.
If you want FoW armor so badly, why don't you just go in a full team and fight for it, like a man!
I'm glad the nerfed those 55 monk, I'm just sad they didn't do it sooner.
Yours truely... Shuuda!
yo home boi
Shuuda no offence m8 but u r gona be really disliked soon haha lmao *jk* lol lets all make a petition to get it back to the old days!