Petition: Emote for "Kind of a big deal" title track

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

Hi,

I've been spending much hours on getting 4/5 on the koabd titletrack, and soon in NF I will be 5/5. This titletrack is one of the most prestige titles one can get in doing pve. The time it takes to get a " bambi " is much less, but still gives an /rank emote for pvp. I think people should be rewarded for putting a lot of effort in one character.

I would like that there comes an emote for having a rank in Kind of A big Deal. They could be different for "Kind of a big deal", and "people know me", and the one after that.

Suggestion for the emote could be involving the 5 gods like: wings of dwayana, or oozing mist of grenth.

/Signed

Ps I got Protector and Grandmaster Cartographer on Tyria and Cantha, and now working on Elona

Dougal Kronik

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

R/

/signed

It is one of the harder and longer titles to get.

ValaOfTheFens

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

/signed

we need more emotes period. I want a /dothehustle emote bad!! It would be awesome with Henchies and Heros.

Erudition

Erudition

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Q&A section

Unique Warriors [UnWr]

/signed
Definetly one of the best titles one can have, and longest, why not have an extra emote?

Kalki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Summoners of Forgotten Gods

W/Mo

/notsigned

I'm 4/5 to KoaBD with my warrior, and I'm even setting a goal to try for level 2 of the title called "People Know Me" with 10 titles maxed, but I don't want a simple emote for this title. I think the title under the name is recognition enough for what it's worth. It's basically for obsessive gamers that must do everything. I'd much rather have them give recognition for each individual title maxed, and leave the KoaBD title track as it is. Emotes will seem cheesy if they overuse them as rewards. I'm hoping for more unique rewards.

Congrats on the nice titles by the way

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalki
/notsigned

I'm 4/5 to KoaBD with my warrior, and I'm even setting a goal to try for level 2 of the title called "People Know Me" with 10 titles maxed, but I don't want a simple emote for this title. I think the title under the name is recognition enough for what it's worth. It's basically for obsessive gamers that must do everything. I'd much rather have them give recognition for each individual title maxed, and leave the KoaBD title track as it is. Emotes will seem cheesy if they overuse them as rewards. I'm hoping for more unique rewards.

Congrats on the nice titles by the way
Not saying it has to be an emote, but some kind of visual recognition would be nice , other then title.

Emotes were given to players imo to get them excited to do more pvp. To give them a goal. Tell me if would you honestly would go for rank 12 in pvp only for the "King's Hero" under your char. Offcourse not you want to have that nice Phoenix, and it will take time (Lot's and lot's and lot's of time ). I am not implying that it takes as long to get KOABD as getting rank 12. But it takes certainly more time then rank 3.

Maxing out 5 titles takes is huge time investment, and I think the pve people should get a reward for it. Other then a title only.

Daniel__

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2006

mr groovy anything takes more time then rank3, running chests takes more time then that -_-,

in the double pvp event i know people who got their bambi in 5 hours of vimway lmao, what a skill

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel__
mr groovy anything takes more time then rank3, running chests takes more time then that -_-,

in the double pvp event i know people who got their bambi in 5 hours of vimway lmao, what a skill
Exactly the whole point

Not A Fifty Five

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Creating guild

Mo/

Eh well, then you'd have to add a emote for max gladiator and max champion, both of which are harder than kind of a big deal.

Not A Fifty Five

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Creating guild

Mo/

actually even gladiator rank 4 is harder than kind of a big deal lol.

but if we're talking about stuff thats just harder than rank 3.. you'd be adding 10000000000 emotes. The emotes existed before the title, and why bother taking them away.

Lucifer PVP

Lucifer PVP

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Refuge From Exile [RFE] Refuge-From-Exile.com

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Not A Fifty Five
Eh well, then you'd have to add a emote for max gladiator and max champion, both of which are harder than kind of a big deal.
pvp has emotes

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Not A Fifty Five
Eh well, then you'd have to add a emote for max gladiator and max champion, both of which are harder than kind of a big deal.
Can't those both contribute to KoaBD?

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

I think Kind of a Big Deal is rather easy to get. I would /sign if the emote begins at People Know Me...

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

I'd like to see emotes for some titles, but only difficult ones. No emotes for 60% cartography, protector, low-level treasure, wisdom, etc.

KoaBD should definitely have an emote. Probably a few other titles as well.

EDIT: *max* gladiator and *max* champion? I think those titles are designed to never be maxed out, just like fame. Yeah, I know, people speculate that r15 is 100k fame and that's max, but honestly, that might as well be considered infinite. The person with highest fame count has about 35k after 2 years of playing. And today fame doesn't come nearly as fast as in the early days.

Wilhelm

Wilhelm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Canada eh

looking for mature, luxon pvx guild

Mo/

/signed. It's clearly the most prestigous title for PvE, there's no reason why someone who's clearly grinded out the title can't have an emote. Afterall we give emotes to rank 3

As for Max Champion points, It'll happen for sure. It maxes out at 7, and I do believe I saw a member of Te with level 5 of it.

shaolin mind trick

shaolin mind trick

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

Aequitas Deis [AD]

Mo/Me

/signed
Better give pvp'ers some vanity skins in exchange though...

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Not A Fifty Five
Eh well, then you'd have to add a emote for max gladiator and max champion, both of which are harder than kind of a big deal.
And both are PVP titles. But I don't think most PVE minded people people do RA, or guild vs guild.

As I stated before there should be something for us PVE folks . It's not for having 1 title maxed out, but 5. And even if you would buy you way through drunktitle, survivor, wisdom lucky/ unlucky (which most pve people don't have the finances for because a perfect crystaline doesn't drop for them ) it still takes a lot of pve to max out the rest.

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by shaolin mind trick
/signed
Better give pvp'ers some vanity skins in exchange though...
Crystaline, dwarven Axe anyone

Riesz

Riesz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_groovy
Not saying it has to be an emote, but some kind of visual recognition would be nice , other then title.

Emotes were given to players imo to get them excited to do more pvp. To give them a goal. Tell me if would you honestly would go for rank 12 in pvp only for the "King's Hero" under your char. Offcourse not you want to have that nice Phoenix, and it will take time (Lot's and lot's and lot's of time ). I am not implying that it takes as long to get KOABD as getting rank 12. But it takes certainly more time then rank 3.

Maxing out 5 titles takes is huge time investment, and I think the pve people should get a reward for it. Other then a title only.
Emotes were used to prove rank before titles were implemented, though people could lie about being "rank 5" with a deer emote, since there was no proof.

Anyhow, I like the emote idea but I'd want it to be similar to the pvp emotes in that you couldn't spam it. The pvp ones are tiring enough to be seen spammed every minute or so.

Aztec Mijo

Aztec Mijo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

[LaZy]

W/E

couldnt someone just get the 6 easiest titles( 3 mission/bonus 3 cartograpther)?

i dont like this idea, eventually almost anyone could get the koabd titles.

theres also survivor, treasure and wisdom titles which aren't hard to get.

do the sunspear and lightbringer titles count now?

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aztec Mijo
couldnt someone just get the 6 easiest titles( 3 mission/bonus 3 cartograpther)?

i dont like this idea, eventually almost anyone could get the koabd titles.

theres also survivor, treasure and wisdom titles which aren't hard to get.

do the sunspear and lightbringer titles count now?
It's easier to get 3 carto + 3 protectors then getting rank 3 doing HA? If you are in a pvp oriented guild (or did double fame weekend ). It took my lot's of hours to get the carto titles, and getting al the bonus/ masters. And isn't always as easy as it seems. (though i henched dunes of despair, fire islands and THK for bonus but that's experience ).

Again this visual recognition is for maxing out 5 titles, which takes dedication and should be rewared as such.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

/signed

As I'll soon have my 5/5 title once I get 100% on Elona.

And after all that hard work of getting 100% and protector on both tyria and cantha, I would like some recognision.

blastm

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

/notsignet

those who have it can already show off without an emote, and i'd rather have anet working on something else.

nugzta

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

And then people would complain elitism in PvE lol

Not A Fifty Five

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Creating guild

Mo/

lol yeah. And guys remember the rank 3 emote is not about the title. the emote existed BEFORE the title.

Drewfense

Drewfense

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Team Quitter [QQ]

Mo/Me

Not even going to bother reading after the first post to say...

/notsigned

Protector, explorer, and drunkard titles require next to zero skill. If you C+Space long enough, you will eventually get them. With expanding chapters, the value of KoaBD decreases. Even one of the few titles I think is worth anything, survivor, can be farmed. Zero skill = no emote.

On a completely unrelated note, I would like to petition for all HA emotes to be abolished.

Praetor

Praetor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere over the rainbow

Devil Me [DEvM]

E/D

/notsigned

We need a.net to actually work on a skill balancing overhaul, not implement more bells and whistles. If anything, /rank should be taken out. You can already check someone's exact rank through the title display.

MDeshame

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

If the emote is the one you act like your forceably borking a chick from behind, yea I'm all for that.

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewfense
Not even going to bother reading after the first post to say...

/notsigned

Protector, explorer, and drunkard titles require next to zero skill. If you C+Space long enough, you will eventually get them. With expanding chapters, the value of KoaBD decreases. Even one of the few titles I think is worth anything, survivor, can be farmed. Zero skill = no emote.

On a completely unrelated note, I would like to petition for all HA emotes to be abolished.
As if playing Vim \ Vimway or Iway involves skill .
And it doesn't dercease in value, because it shows dedication and admirens for one char. They could simply start a new char for every chapter. But instead chose to keep the old one.

As said before the kind of a big deal is one of the more prestige / grinding titles to get. And much be rewarded

Quote:
We need a.net to actually work on a skill balancing overhaul, not implement more bells and whistles. If anything, /rank should be taken out. You can already check someone's exact rank through the title display.
I think when anet looses the /rank emote, lot's of people will stop playing ha.

ekamdu

ekamdu

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Holland

Legion of Sacred Light

Mo/

/signed

and an emote for Incorrigable Alehound too!!! ^_^

Kalki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Summoners of Forgotten Gods

W/Mo

This isn't a question about skill it's a question about time investment and getting a reward for that. Sure my 2 maxed cartography might've been "easy", but it took a helluva lot of persistence. Sure most of the bonuses on missions were "easy", but some of them were quite hard and took numerous attempts before I was successful (i.e. Abaddon's Mouth).

KoaBD is a time consuming title to get and my hat goes off to anyone that has the title. Although it's becoming a less impressive title as the game grows. When I see someone with KoaBD title now I don't know if they merely bought KoaBD with Drunkard, Lucky/Unlucky, Wisdom/Chest titles or if they worked hard playing the game normal for Protector/Cartography titles. I'm still most impressed by seeing 100% Cartographer, Protector, or Skill Hunter titles. I think that more visual recognition is needed for the individual titles before KoaBD.

Oh... and I'm still happy we even have titles at all. I remember 7 months ago being sad I couldn't get recognition for doing bonus missions or exploring.

Aztec Mijo

Aztec Mijo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

[LaZy]

W/E

everyone keeps saying that an emote will show some reward about the koabd title, but aren't titles themselves the reward?

most of the extras or components that aren't terribly important to the pve/pvp are kepts subtle for a reason.

think what you want but this just sounds like ppl want more for nothing (which isn't the first time in this game) and will probably cause lag in towns if not more.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

/signed

When I got whiff that there would be some special result of title maxing, I thought for sure there'd be one for KoaBD. Even if it's something vanity-related, like an emote.....just something! Alas........

Anyways, I'm 4/5 with about 30 NF elites to cap to being 5/5, while also attaining Protector and Gmaster Catographer of Elona, and have a huge stash of alcohol, I could be 8/10 fairly soon. Surely 'People Know Me' must have some reward (of course the real one is personal, and also wearing the title)

skillsbas8

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

/notsigned for an emote
Emotes are strictly for PVP and should remain that way, as it is one of the few signs of "recognition" pvp offers. Allowing it to be obtained in PVE will be somewhat frustrating.
Some other reward would be a good idea, as it is hard to obtain. Perhaps some PVE boost or something along those lines.
/signed for something other than emote

Clawdius_Talonious

Clawdius_Talonious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by skillsbas8
/notsigned for an emote
Emotes are strictly for PVP and should remain that way, as it is one of the few signs of "recognition" pvp offers. Allowing it to be obtained in PVE will be somewhat frustrating.
Some other reward would be a good idea, as it is hard to obtain. Perhaps some PVE boost or something along those lines.
/signed for something other than emote
An emote doesn't have to be anything at all like a big glowing animal you know

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewfense
Not even going to bother reading after the first post to say...

/notsigned

Protector, explorer, and drunkard titles require next to zero skill. If you C+Space long enough, you will eventually get them. With expanding chapters, the value of KoaBD decreases. Even one of the few titles I think is worth anything, survivor, can be farmed. Zero skill = no emote.

On a completely unrelated note, I would like to petition for all HA emotes to be abolished.
Requires 0 skill?

Have you actually got 100% on both tyria and cantha?

Have you tried exploring between beacons perch and the war camp as an Elemental?

Yes all it takes is hugging walls, but you always have to clear out mobs of creatures and have the mentality to keep going back again and again and again.

Have you tried exploring the region in DOD to the bottom right and the fort to the left?

Something for which you need a strong team with teleport, or a strong monk to keep the ghost alive while you explore. Something which is near impossible to do because AGAIN, either no one has the knowledge to understand about teleporting over the wall or they cant be bothered to help you.

It ISNT easy and it certainly does take alot more then 0 skill.

Because otherwise.....

....we would have EVERYONE with 100%.

But how many people do you see with 100% on tyria? Not that many, maybe one a week when moving around.

The reason; Because most people cant be BOTHERED to get it, because their lazey.

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

I totally agree with the person above, the Exploration and Protector Titles do require skill. Having to search every nook and cranny and take down large amounts of enemys fo all shapes and descriptions in the process is both time consuming and consisting of a varying level of difficulty from easy times in Ascalon to much harder times exploring south Shiverpeaks and the Fire Isle requires atleast some skill. The Protector titles certainly require some skills, I can think of several that are considered more difficult than the others such as Dunes and Raisu and that’s just the bonus’s, ignoring the actual mission difficultly. Although a a lot of people don’t attempy for them because they cant be bothered a large number of people get these titles because they simply cant do bonus/Masters x or cant make there way through area y.

The Silver Star

The Silver Star

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK, Scotland

Il Guild Name Il

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
The reason; Because most people cant be BOTHERED to get it, because their lazey.
They have a life outside Guild Wars

/notsigned

Its a nice idea but it is deffinately a Title that requires time and money only not skill.

Stupid Shizno

Stupid Shizno

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

[eF]

Mo/

/notsigned

Emotes where the way to define time in HA. It was the only way to tell who was "ranked", wether rank means skill or just time in game these days is a matter of debate, no emotes are needed for pvp.

pve'ers complained that they never had anyway to tell who was "uber leet", and everyone knows /rank is useless outside of HA, so why do you care? Anet finally made all pve shutup by giving them titles to prove their "leetness". Now you want more? please. You got the titles that say just how "leet" you are that is enough.

You can say getting 180 fame is easier then the protector missions, and you deserve some regonition in a /emote for that, but honestly, how hard is getting all mission/bonus anyways? half the time you hench it. If you really want an emote that bad, go to HA and run vimway and get your 180 since its so easy.

As that is said, its on the same note that pvp creation dosnt need vanity items, thats the whole point of pve.

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzta
And then people would complain elitism in PvE lol
They wouldn't - it's been there for.. how long now? 18 months? Let's say 16. Still, that's an awful amount of time of elitist idiots in PvE. I have one on my FL, I simply love that guy. When I met him 12 months ago he was a PvE elitist. Today, he's not only that - he's a PvP elitist too. Now, let us take a moment of silence and pay our respects to the thousands upon thousands of slaughtered pets in HA.

There's nothing you can do about elitists other than to ignore them like you ignore the same idiots you meet while you're AFK.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Silver Star
They have a life outside Guild Wars
I do too, but I do have both Tyrian and Canthan maps at 100% and both protectors titles for them. One could argue that rank 10+ does not have a live outside of GW too, but that would be too easy.


As to "no skill = no emote" argument I submit that there are thousands people with no skill and a tiger emote. We could say that for the phoenix aswell, but let's not go there. Mkay?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Death3D
You can say getting 180 fame is easier then the protector missions, and you deserve some regonition in a /emote for that, but honestly, how hard is getting all mission/bonus anyways? half the time you hench it. If you really want an emote that bad, go to HA and run vimway and get your 180 since its so easy.
6 hours of vimway/iway/(insert idiotic build here) compared to at least 12 hours for each Protector. Yeah, totally deserved emote. My bad.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Death3D
As that is said, its on the same note that pvp creation dosnt need vanity items, thats the whole point of pve.
What was said in the quote is a load of.. bull droppings.