How To: ''legendary defender of ascalon''
Covah
Yes it is normal. The foes outside Barradin esate aren't all one mob. They are individual foes. The Charr you Dlvl over the wall are patrolling mobs you pull. Everyone in the mob gains the Exp. Since the moas and spiders aren't from the same mob only one gains exp. Thus it is better to Dlvl charr.
Indian
can someone re-up the images?
thanks
thanks
pamelf
Question; could one hypothetically d/l the bosses? And would this give more xp than d/ling normal Charr?
makosi
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Originally Posted by pamelf
Question; could one hypothetically d/l the bosses? And would this give more xp than d/ling normal Charr?
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pamelf
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Originally Posted by makosi
The bosses can't be lured to the res shrine so you can't death level them. All 'fixed location' foes seem to like their spawn areas and won't follow you very far. As a result, only moving patrols of Charr can be drawn to the res shrine.
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novawhiz
You can still deahtlevel well at level 14 and 15 right. Cause id like to start there so i dont have to spend as much time doing boss runs.
crazybanshee
Yes you can deathlevel at 14 and 15. Be aware that you give less xp per death, but at least you only have to level them to your level +1 for best/fastest return of xp. I started at level 15, and am at level 16 and about 50% now. Boss runs are good tho cause you get charr bags, kits, and lots of runes to sell (you'll need the cash to pay gate monkeys :/)
Belbadon
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Originally Posted by Belbadon
Well this guide worked for me for the most part. I am guessing that the EXP amounts from quests has changed or that exp needed for levels has changed. The reason is that I save all quests for last except as noted in this guide and I ended up with 3500 exp still needed. I am curently level 19/70%.
Back to death leaveling. I will be back in about 2-3 days with a screen of my success. Overall this guide has been VERY helpful. I started out going for this title with about 6 other guildies. I am the only survivor still doing it.  That is the way it should be I guess. As far as I can tell this is the rarest title in the game. I have NEVER seen someone wearing this title in Post. In my opinion it is the hardest due to the "boring factor" as well as the error 059 let downs that can be very discouraging. You pretty much stop playing the game for a few months. Yet you have to keep an eye on it often. And once you get the title....no one gives you a free cookie. You just get a title.  My IGN is Legendary Faz Man And ya to whoever said it can be done in 2 weeks.....pfft! |
I am going for it yet again with another toon. This time I plan on leaving the toon in pre. The game has become rather boring for me. So I have decided to "stop playing the game" as I described above.
My current toon is "Fireza Lavamp" And she is currently 8hrs 51min old at level 9-55%.
Last time I was there charr bags sold at around 3k/ea now they are 700g. They are actually cheaper than regular bags+runes in post. LOL
I find that kinda funny.Feel free to add me as a friend any of you. My lack of playing recently has gotten me kicked out of my guild. No one luvs me any more.
heh. See ya in pre.
Nikzero
Ah...Pre-Searing has so many memories for me! I had a level 18 Necro in Pre and this is a message to all of you who think you can have Survivor with LDoA: You can't.
If you want to have this titule, you MUST waste survivor.
If you want to have this titule, you MUST waste survivor.
pamelf
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Originally Posted by Nikzero
Ah...Pre-Searing has so many memories for me! I had a level 18 Necro in Pre and this is a message to all of you who think you can have Survivor with LDoA: You can't.
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http://www.presearing.com/forum2/index.php?topic=5700.0
Survivors is apparently impossible to achieve with LDOA
Anon-e-mouse
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Originally Posted by crazybanshee
Boss runs are good tho cause you get charr bags, kits, and lots of runes to sell (you'll need the cash to pay gate monkeys :/)
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ImAgainstIt
How do I death level a black bear ?
Anon-e-mouse
Pretty sure you won't be able to, or leastwise it will be very difficult.
As none of the black bears spawns are close enough to a rez shrine to allow you to pull it to the shrine. With that and their, break charm skill, you're gonna have a hard time.
As none of the black bears spawns are close enough to a rez shrine to allow you to pull it to the shrine. With that and their, break charm skill, you're gonna have a hard time.
Cod3ine
Say, if i used 2 toons on differint computers. Both to lvl charr, and kick 1 off and then kill them, will it go faster?
Anon-e-mouse
Yes, but due to the spawns, and make up of each group they will not level up evenly. For example in the current DL session I am in now. I've pulled 3 groups. After 30 minutes or so, one of the groups is now level 10, but the other two are still level 8.
Having two toons on the shrine will make them level up quicker (it's NOT twice as quick with two toons dying, more like 60-70% quicker). Right until you have to kill the first group, which you will have to do once they get to lvl 20, as they will still suck up the XP, but not gain any more levels.
By all means do it, but you will have to map one toon out, when the first group reaches level 20, and carry on from there as normal.
I would do it myself, as I have two accounts and two computers. But other than my LDoA char, the next highest toon is lvl 6. Which would be no good.
Having two toons on the shrine will make them level up quicker (it's NOT twice as quick with two toons dying, more like 60-70% quicker). Right until you have to kill the first group, which you will have to do once they get to lvl 20, as they will still suck up the XP, but not gain any more levels.
By all means do it, but you will have to map one toon out, when the first group reaches level 20, and carry on from there as normal.
I would do it myself, as I have two accounts and two computers. But other than my LDoA char, the next highest toon is lvl 6. Which would be no good.
Stop The Storm
hey
could someone confirm that the 1st post still works and is up to date?
any things that have been improved upon since or changed?
im going to be using a necro for ldoa, ok choice?
thanks
could someone confirm that the 1st post still works and is up to date?
any things that have been improved upon since or changed?
im going to be using a necro for ldoa, ok choice?
thanks
Anon-e-mouse
The first post is still pretty much the route to go. Although the recently added fire Imp helps (if you have access to it), as it's an extra body. The first post is only a guide (and a good one), but it's NOT a rigid blueprint that you must stick to.
If you accidentally accept "Charr At The Gates", then you can start the Northlands earlier. Using the quest "Across The Wall", go and find Ben Wolfson, he will follow you around, and is darned good for a lvl 5 NPC. I did managed to solo the entire Northlands (including the bosses) at lvl 9, with the aid of Ben, and Impy.
Necro is a good choice, it has the nice vampiric skills available, and also the benefit of a couple extra quests.
If you accidentally accept "Charr At The Gates", then you can start the Northlands earlier. Using the quest "Across The Wall", go and find Ben Wolfson, he will follow you around, and is darned good for a lvl 5 NPC. I did managed to solo the entire Northlands (including the bosses) at lvl 9, with the aid of Ben, and Impy.
Necro is a good choice, it has the nice vampiric skills available, and also the benefit of a couple extra quests.
Stop The Storm
im currently repeating charr at the gate, better to accept reward and go over the wall? im only lvl 5 atm, maybe better to level up a few first then get ben?
also, are fire skills still the best to have? fire storm etc
also, are fire skills still the best to have? fire storm etc
Anon-e-mouse
I would keep going with Charr At The Gate, at least for another few levels. It's quicker (and cheaper) to do than running to Northlands.
When you get to around lvl 8-9 then you can START thinking about Northlands.
On the other hand if you accidentally accept Charr At The Gate, then goto the Northlands and concentrate on just killing the lvl 5 Oakhearts there, which you can get to without running into Charr, and dying.
Regarding fire skills, the Oakhearts love fire, as they take double damage from it. Not sure about the Charr though, my LDoA toon was a Ranger, with Bane Signet (for the knockdown). Firestorm won't scatter the foes like it will in post. But it's not such a good choice later when you are doing the DeathLeveling part (because it's AOE damage over time, which might kill a Charr when you are dead, so you won't get the XP). Flare would be ok though.
Whether you want to take Elementalist as a 2nd profession, is a choice for you alone. Yes you can spec points into firemagic (to make them more effective). But you will have to do a bit more dying to recoup the quests XP
When you get to around lvl 8-9 then you can START thinking about Northlands.
On the other hand if you accidentally accept Charr At The Gate, then goto the Northlands and concentrate on just killing the lvl 5 Oakhearts there, which you can get to without running into Charr, and dying.
Regarding fire skills, the Oakhearts love fire, as they take double damage from it. Not sure about the Charr though, my LDoA toon was a Ranger, with Bane Signet (for the knockdown). Firestorm won't scatter the foes like it will in post. But it's not such a good choice later when you are doing the DeathLeveling part (because it's AOE damage over time, which might kill a Charr when you are dead, so you won't get the XP). Flare would be ok though.
Whether you want to take Elementalist as a 2nd profession, is a choice for you alone. Yes you can spec points into firemagic (to make them more effective). But you will have to do a bit more dying to recoup the quests XP
Stop The Storm
ok thanks
nearly level 8 now, been using a pet to help kill the charr at the gate.
unsure now whether to go for a second prof to dump points in, or hope i can kill charr with the very limited necro skills i have
ahhh decisions decisions lol
nearly level 8 now, been using a pet to help kill the charr at the gate.
unsure now whether to go for a second prof to dump points in, or hope i can kill charr with the very limited necro skills i have
ahhh decisions decisions lol
apoggy
Ive been trying to use the pull to a charr goes 'idle' method in the northlands but they always seem to follow in one group then all retreat together. is there a specific way i should be doing it, or has the AI been changed since the post.
I'm lvl 10 necro, and i got pwned if i try and fight the group
any help is appreciated
I'm lvl 10 necro, and i got pwned if i try and fight the group
any help is appreciated
Anon-e-mouse
Lvl 10 is a little early to be attempting a death levelling session. When you are that low a level, your best tools are Ben Wolfson, from the Across The Wall quest, this added to the Fire Imp, and a pet will make your surviveability more likely. Added to which, you should be able to kill the Oakhearts with ease, whom you will still get XP from.
When you enter the Northlands, follow the quest pointer for Across the Wall. And you will come accross Ben, he will follow you around until you take him back to the shrine. DON'T take him there, when you are level 10, he's is MUCH more helpful following you around instead.
Once you have joined up with Ben, there will be a group of 4 charr, nearby. You + Ben + Fire Imp, should make short(ish) work of this group. Try to kill the Hunter first, they usually are the one putting out the most damage.
As a Necro, you have access to the Vamp skills.. Put as many points as you can into Blood, so your vamp skills will serve you better, especially Vampiric Gaze. Before you engage a group of charr, cast Blood Renewal on yourself, then Life Siphon on your victim (the Hunter if there is one, otherwise the Shaman), This will give you +6 health regen for a short while, follow up with Vamiric Gaze, then Vampiric Touch, your target should be near enough dead. As soon as your target is dead switch to the next one and repeat. Once you have killed the 4 charr, make your way towards the shrine. When you get to the ruined house, wait for the patrol to run away before attacking the stationary group outside. Once the stationary group is gone, regen and wait for the patrol.
Go east. Observe the routes of the patrols. Your next target is going to be the group of 3 charr that comes from the shrine towards you. When they stop, powerup and hit them. Then it's a matter of working on the other patrols around the shrine.
If you still find it hard, I would suggest asking for a similar leveled partner to help you gain a couple more levels. I'm currently working on a lvl 13 Warrior myself, so I may be able to help ingame.
When you enter the Northlands, follow the quest pointer for Across the Wall. And you will come accross Ben, he will follow you around until you take him back to the shrine. DON'T take him there, when you are level 10, he's is MUCH more helpful following you around instead.
Once you have joined up with Ben, there will be a group of 4 charr, nearby. You + Ben + Fire Imp, should make short(ish) work of this group. Try to kill the Hunter first, they usually are the one putting out the most damage.
As a Necro, you have access to the Vamp skills.. Put as many points as you can into Blood, so your vamp skills will serve you better, especially Vampiric Gaze. Before you engage a group of charr, cast Blood Renewal on yourself, then Life Siphon on your victim (the Hunter if there is one, otherwise the Shaman), This will give you +6 health regen for a short while, follow up with Vamiric Gaze, then Vampiric Touch, your target should be near enough dead. As soon as your target is dead switch to the next one and repeat. Once you have killed the 4 charr, make your way towards the shrine. When you get to the ruined house, wait for the patrol to run away before attacking the stationary group outside. Once the stationary group is gone, regen and wait for the patrol.
Go east. Observe the routes of the patrols. Your next target is going to be the group of 3 charr that comes from the shrine towards you. When they stop, powerup and hit them. Then it's a matter of working on the other patrols around the shrine.
If you still find it hard, I would suggest asking for a similar leveled partner to help you gain a couple more levels. I'm currently working on a lvl 13 Warrior myself, so I may be able to help ingame.
killerbot3009
yes there is, but i belive that it is very much more long winded, and not really worth trying to do. everytime u kill something, even though it says you get 0xp, but every 100 u kill u will recieve 1%xp, so it can be done, but y oh y would u do that
Anon-e-mouse
Trust me on this, every time you kill something if it says you get 0XP, that's *EXACTLY* what you get.. *0XP*.
There isn't some hidden XP pool that the game stores all those 0's into, to pass onto you if you kill some mystical figure of 0XP creeps.
There isn't some hidden XP pool that the game stores all those 0's into, to pass onto you if you kill some mystical figure of 0XP creeps.
imnotyourmother
Well if this thread is still open...
I am currently lvl 18 and 21% to the next lvl. I have been DLing for a while but I did all of the quests. So rather than delete my almost 2 year old toon I decided to DL it any way. I am currently working on getting a second account toon to lvl 16 so that dling can go much faster. 70% sees like the right amount though cause it is not twice as fast.
The good thing is that I can get them to lvl 19 in around 4 hours with both toons there and that sure beats the 10 hours without it.
I am currently lvl 18 and 21% to the next lvl. I have been DLing for a while but I did all of the quests. So rather than delete my almost 2 year old toon I decided to DL it any way. I am currently working on getting a second account toon to lvl 16 so that dling can go much faster. 70% sees like the right amount though cause it is not twice as fast.
The good thing is that I can get them to lvl 19 in around 4 hours with both toons there and that sure beats the 10 hours without it.
Dacomos
Hi.
This thread has 50 pages, so i cant read it all.
I have 1 simple question.
My guild mates says that it is no longer possible to get Survivor and LDoA.
Is that true?
Isnt it possible to lvlup monsters by letting them kill my pet or friend that is in party with me?
If it is possible, ill make my mesmer LDoA survivor no matter how long it takes ;]
Also is there any new info about GW2 release? I dont want to spend 3 months making LDoA survivor if i will have to abandon it a few month later ;/
This thread has 50 pages, so i cant read it all.
I have 1 simple question.
My guild mates says that it is no longer possible to get Survivor and LDoA.
Is that true?
Isnt it possible to lvlup monsters by letting them kill my pet or friend that is in party with me?
If it is possible, ill make my mesmer LDoA survivor no matter how long it takes ;]
Also is there any new info about GW2 release? I dont want to spend 3 months making LDoA survivor if i will have to abandon it a few month later ;/
Joseph Leito
Friend can only be killed twice, for lack of rez. Pet doesn't give EXP for kills after the first anymore. So no.
Dacomos
But there are monk skills that can be used multiple times.
I just have to buy monk tome, obtain that skill and rez my friend over and over again? Can i do that?
I just have to buy monk tome, obtain that skill and rez my friend over and over again? Can i do that?
Savio
You can't get tomes in Pre-Searing legitimately, otherwise yes.
Tullzinski
I have heard that if you are in pre searing with an item that does not belong there, you will be "asked" to move into post searing.
Covah
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I have heard that if you are in pre searing with an item that does not belong there, you will be "asked" to move into post searing.
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That was a while ago, Gaile Grey said any account with "exotic" (items you can't get in pre) had to remove them from pre your that character would be deleted.
Anon-e-mouse
Just a quick summation for the late comer's to this thread.
1), it is NOT POSSIBLE to use a) a friend, b) your pet, or c) your fire imp to level charr
2). it is NOT POSSIBLE to gain both Survivor and LDoA on the same character via any legitmate in-game method.
1), it is NOT POSSIBLE to use a) a friend, b) your pet, or c) your fire imp to level charr
2). it is NOT POSSIBLE to gain both Survivor and LDoA on the same character via any legitmate in-game method.
Tullzinski
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Originally Posted by Covah
That was a while ago, Gaile Grey said any account with "exotic" (items you can't get in pre) had to remove them from pre your that character would be deleted.
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I have my necro at level 13 currently looking forward to being LDOA! Just got my first charr bag and salvage kit too
A H O Y T
Yes it also applies to skills... although she's made exceptions before.
e.g. Savannah Heat.
Although it was fairly fun and quick runs with him :P
e.g. Savannah Heat.
Although it was fairly fun and quick runs with him :P
D A R K S O I F O N
u cannot get survivor and ldoa. But if u had to choose between the both u would go for ldoa. I am going to make a monk for pre sering and if anyone is interested in joining with me whisper me online. I reckon we can get it with 1 day of farmin exp.
BlueNovember
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I reckon we can get it with 1 day of farmin exp.
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T1Cybernetic
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GL with that. I think you're in for a nasty shock.
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Anon-e-mouse
Took me about 3 1/2 months from start to finish.. doing a DL setup each night from about lvl 14 onwards. I did have about 3 or 4 disconnections during those setups. But yes it's NOT something that you can get in a day (unlike Survivor).
Warrior The Known
Took me 5 weeks to get LDOA.
Anon-e-mouse
Yes you can do it quicker than I did. Although that usually requires to be monitoring your DL session and to harvest the charr at your level -1 for speed. For those without the time to devote, it will take longer.